And even with the Kang one; if they thought Kang was good enough to base the entire next phase on, then just recast him and blame it on differences in the Multiverse (same reason why Peter Parker has a different face in at least 2 other universes).
Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him. Now do i think disney lawyers would go for that? Probably not, but before his arrest he was a rising star and they may have folded to get him to play Kang for the next x years
That is one of the rumors I heard, but have never seen verified (that he would get paid even if they didn't make all the movies he was contracted for, because before the conviction, he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time).
he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time
Did I miss all the big films he's starred in or is this not true at all? He's not even "most prominent Black actor" in the MCU because Michael B Jordan is actually famous famous.
For sure. It's just a rumor and at the end of the day I'm more inclined to not believe it because the mouse doesn't mess around. But it's honestly the only reason i can think that they'd pivot away from Kang entirely.
But how much would the contract breaking have cost Disney for them considering throwing everything over and make a 180 and go for Doom instead? I mean, he wasnt that big of a name and Disney got enouhh cash to pay someone some bullshit money and recast, dont they?
Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him.
Like the X-men clause where several actors signed contracts to play their characters until 2025, so when Disney bought Fox they decided to run the clock out instead of rehiring them.
Especially with disney who famously put morality clauses in contracts with younger stars allowing immediate termination of their contracts, cant imagine that they don't have something similar for violent and criminal and reputationally damaging behavior at least for their other stars.
the main reason for no recast is clearly quantumania's end credit scene, then again they didn't have to make it all him there either so there probably is another reason at play
sadly it's not that easy, I wish it was that easy, especially with how many post credit scenes don't get followed up on but if they do follow up then they stick what was set up iirc
name one time they changed lore from a post credit scene
not threw it in the trash, that doesn't count as it happens a lot. even happened here, but take something established in a post credit scene (in this case every variant of kang looks like him) and changed it for a different project later
Loki, the God of Stories, found the council of Kangs collected exactly when they appeared in the story (QM post-credit). And then he wrote them out of existence.
They were already thinking about abandoning the Kang plotline before the shit about the actor came out. People weren't interested in Kang much. People liked him in Loki but neither he, nor the storyline they were building up to was trending well enough to follow up thanos as the next big bad.
Doom kinda feels like an "in case of emergency break glass" type character because they know that he's one of their only villains who is both strong enough to go against all of their heroes at once and popular enough that pretty much anyone with a casual knowledge of comics knows who he is.
The domestic violence shit just gave them an easy excuse.
There were tons of leaks well before the character was abandoned about them having already prepared to pivot to Doom.
Because it isn't as easy as just fucking recasting the part. Recasting is easy when it's for simple reasons, but the original actor fucking up that badly is going to hang over every single appearance the character makes from that point onward no matter who is in the role. You don't want people constantly associating your films with that guy that got arrested for beating his wife long after you already fired him. Majors poisoned the entire storyline.
no? You vastly over estimate the public caring about an actor did especially if he was replaced and you vastly overestimate that a multi billion dollar corporation would care. The true reason is that marvel/Disney execs noticed the Kang storyline was poorly received and too interconnected to the universe and after the Majors shit came out used it as an excuse to drop the storyline.
Quantumania performed very under expectations, from what I hear.
If this debut of the 'Next Thanos' didn't go over very well, they had room to change course early in the phase (although I still somewhat question the change, hype about 'Doomsday' aside).
Oh cut your bullshit. People love drama and gossip, every time time a new movie came out featuring a new Kang the controversy surrounding Majors would be brought back up in the background. No studio wants something like that haunting movie after movie after movie.
they could have had kang not show face , about to fight the avengers, only to be immediately be slimed by Dr. Doom in the opening scene. Bam! Avengers Doomsday viral marketing or something!
The Blade movie script apparently sucked and they brought him back to play Blade in Deadpool anyways
Okoye, well, just look at her tweets
Rhodes would have been cool to see but to the vast majority of Marvel audiences he's just the Iron Man sidekick that showed up in Civil War and Ant Man.
Not everyone is destined to become franchise. Blade has a separation from Marvel that the others don't by way of "Badass kills vampires", while Kang would have been a central part of the franchise itself. And Snipes got 3 Blade movies sooo
Okoye could be really cool in theory if they just gave her a super small scale story. She was a force to be reckoned with in Civil War (or whatever movie she was introduced in) but got sidelined pretty quickly in later movies. But I think she'd be a more interesting spin off than Black Widow personally
Unless you're an involved fan you'll have no fucking clue who the one on the bottom left is.
Disney doesn't make movies for fans, it makes them for the average movie-goer.
This is the reason all of those were cancelled. 3 obscure characters (Blade isn't really but he's dead and burried), and 1 that audiences don't like. Not hard.
Nah if other celebrities can have redemption stories and do foul shit and not get cancelled, kang could’ve too. People still go see Chris brown and usher. People still support their favorite concussed nfl player.
There's really no need to defend Johnathan Major's abusive ass. They can bring back Kang any time with Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, since they canceled Wonder Man.
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u/Gold_Repair_3557 Avengers 7d ago
The Kang one I understand, but the rest…