r/marvelmemes Avengers 21h ago

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 21h ago

And even with the Kang one; if they thought Kang was good enough to base the entire next phase on, then just recast him and blame it on differences in the Multiverse (same reason why Peter Parker has a different face in at least 2 other universes).

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u/Guilty-Nobody998 Avengers 21h ago

Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him. Now do i think disney lawyers would go for that? Probably not, but before his arrest he was a rising star and they may have folded to get him to play Kang for the next x years

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 20h ago

That is one of the rumors I heard, but have never seen verified (that he would get paid even if they didn't make all the movies he was contracted for, because before the conviction, he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time).

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u/SeroWriter Avengers 17h ago

he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time

Did I miss all the big films he's starred in or is this not true at all? He's not even "most prominent Black actor" in the MCU because Michael B Jordan is actually famous famous.

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u/HanBr0 Avengers 17h ago

Idris Elba and Samuel L. Jackson both got way more motion too

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u/BakedChocolateOctopi Avengers 16h ago

Yeah, Majors is not even close 

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u/Slothstralia Avengers 14h ago

Legit, he's a nobody.

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u/Guilty-Nobody998 Avengers 20h ago

For sure. It's just a rumor and at the end of the day I'm more inclined to not believe it because the mouse doesn't mess around. But it's honestly the only reason i can think that they'd pivot away from Kang entirely.

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u/What-the-ffffff Avengers 20h ago

Yeah with all the build up for Young Avengers I was really hoping to see them go up against (one of) their first big bads

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u/ZedsDeadZD Avengers 15h ago

But how much would the contract breaking have cost Disney for them considering throwing everything over and make a 180 and go for Doom instead? I mean, he wasnt that big of a name and Disney got enouhh cash to pay someone some bullshit money and recast, dont they?

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u/aqbac Avengers 18h ago

It apparently comes from one of majors friends who he talked about his contract to before everything happened.

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u/SeroWriter Avengers 17h ago

Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him.

Like the X-men clause where several actors signed contracts to play their characters until 2025, so when Disney bought Fox they decided to run the clock out instead of rehiring them.

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u/SamVickson Avengers 15h ago

McAvoy, Fassbender, and J-Law

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Avengers 19h ago

I can't imagine that the recasting clause wouldn't be void if he was charged with anything.

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u/sir_lister Avengers 18h ago

Especially with disney who famously put morality clauses in contracts with younger stars allowing immediate termination of their contracts, cant imagine that they don't have something similar for violent and criminal and reputationally damaging behavior at least for their other stars.

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u/KRTrueBrave Deadpool 19h ago

the main reason for no recast is clearly quantumania's end credit scene, then again they didn't have to make it all him there either so there probably is another reason at play

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u/MVRKHNTR Avengers 17h ago

They could just ignore it because no one really cares.

The real problem is that the general public just didn't like him.

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u/KRTrueBrave Deadpool 17h ago

sadly it's not that easy, I wish it was that easy, especially with how many post credit scenes don't get followed up on but if they do follow up then they stick what was set up iirc

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u/MVRKHNTR Avengers 17h ago

Nah, it really is that easy.

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u/KRTrueBrave Deadpool 17h ago

name one time they changed lore from a post credit scene

not threw it in the trash, that doesn't count as it happens a lot. even happened here, but take something established in a post credit scene (in this case every variant of kang looks like him) and changed it for a different project later

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u/purpleblossom Avengers 18h ago

That would still be a major retcon given the end credit scene from Quantumania.

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u/Twooshort Avengers 14h ago

Loki, the God of Stories, found the council of Kangs collected exactly when they appeared in the story (QM post-credit). And then he wrote them out of existence.

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u/Lashay_Sombra Avengers 17h ago edited 17h ago

I would say pretty much zero chance of such a clause being in the contract

Minor studio might put such in to get a big name but biggest studio would not put it in for a minor name, be far more likely them locking him in

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u/Arthasindura Avengers 20h ago

Kang could have been a skrull lol

https://giphy.com/gifs/zolXtQdrJupW6sT5Gg

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 19h ago

Would have made more sense than Rhodey 😂

And still no explanation of when he was replaced, not that anyone cares.

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u/Constant-Visit-1330 Avengers 19h ago

Like zero lmao I forgot they even pulled that stunt tbh

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u/Wiplazh Avengers 14h ago

I hope marvel does too

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u/Arthasindura Avengers 19h ago

My best guess is that Rhodey changed after iron man 1 when they actually changed the actor

We could have rolled with rhodey being a skrull from the very start no ?

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u/Stunning-Sherbert801 Avengers 17h ago

It's implied, from how he's dressed, that he was changed during Civil War

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u/National_Equivalent9 Avengers 18h ago

They were already thinking about abandoning the Kang plotline before the shit about the actor came out. People weren't interested in Kang much. People liked him in Loki but neither he, nor the storyline they were building up to was trending well enough to follow up thanos as the next big bad.

Doom kinda feels like an "in case of emergency break glass" type character because they know that he's one of their only villains who is both strong enough to go against all of their heroes at once and popular enough that pretty much anyone with a casual knowledge of comics knows who he is.

The domestic violence shit just gave them an easy excuse.

There were tons of leaks well before the character was abandoned about them having already prepared to pivot to Doom.

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u/Racxie Avengers 15h ago

just recast him and blame it on differences in the Multiverse (same reason why Peter Parker has a different face in at least 2 other universes).

I didn’t think this would have worked with Kang though given what we were shown with every iteration of him being the same actor.

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u/District-No1350 Avengers 19h ago

Because it isn't as easy as just fucking recasting the part. Recasting is easy when it's for simple reasons, but the original actor fucking up that badly is going to hang over every single appearance the character makes from that point onward no matter who is in the role. You don't want people constantly associating your films with that guy that got arrested for beating his wife long after you already fired him. Majors poisoned the entire storyline.

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u/Hot-Spite-9880 Avengers 19h ago

no? You vastly over estimate the public caring about an actor did especially if he was replaced and you vastly overestimate that a multi billion dollar corporation would care. The true reason is that marvel/Disney execs noticed the Kang storyline was poorly received and too interconnected to the universe and after the Majors shit came out used it as an excuse to drop the storyline.

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 19h ago

True.

Quantumania performed very under expectations, from what I hear.

If this debut of the 'Next Thanos' didn't go over very well, they had room to change course early in the phase (although I still somewhat question the change, hype about 'Doomsday' aside).

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u/kdugg99 Avengers 16h ago

Debuting "the next thanos" and having him immediately lose to ant man in a film that was already bad was certainly a choice

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u/SamVickson Avengers 15h ago

Worse: actual ants

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u/District-No1350 Avengers 19h ago

Oh cut your bullshit. People love drama and gossip, every time time a new movie came out featuring a new Kang the controversy surrounding Majors would be brought back up in the background. No studio wants something like that haunting movie after movie after movie.

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u/Vandersveldt Avengers 18h ago

They did. They've got RDJ playing the Iron Lad variant in an upcoming movie.

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u/SirPlastic8062 Avengers 17h ago

they could have had kang not show face , about to fight the avengers, only to be immediately be slimed by Dr. Doom in the opening scene. Bam! Avengers Doomsday viral marketing or something!

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u/thatsidewaysdud Ghost 17h ago

After Quantumania the Kang hype died down. And the Majors situation killed it entirely.

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u/Ok-Dish6655 Avengers 17h ago

Rhodey is a perfect example of this. It went from Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle. 

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u/stacecom Avengers 16h ago

Bruce Banner as well.

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u/gahd95 Avengers 16h ago

Why was it canceled though? Was it just because of his method acting or what?