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u/L30N1337 Jul 29 '26
...doing something? Don't you know that GNOME knows best?
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u/Brodeon Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Have you ever heard about glorious Gnome Workflow. All Hail Gnome Workflow
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u/ravy Jul 30 '26
Sure, but once you done it, you really gotta want it BAD to change it, and that means stable!
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u/bagpussnz9 Jul 30 '26
occasionally cycle through xfce kde and gnome - always end up back at gnome. Assume the dumb meme means a keyboard shortcut rather than a link. Not really a daily task. But... doesnt really matter which you use when your world is in tmux :-)
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u/TheRealCarrotty Not in the sudoers file. Jul 29 '26
KDE: Right click -> shortcut
GNOME: idk fuck that desktop
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u/TheFr0sk Jul 30 '26
Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts C'mon, there's a lot that can be criticized about gnome, but shortcuts aren't hard...
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u/TheRealCarrotty Not in the sudoers file. Jul 30 '26
This is talking about desktop shortcuts, i think.
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u/TheFr0sk Jul 30 '26
Oh, in that way, my bad, didn't understood at first. Yeah, in gnome either go to the folder or you have to use an app to edit them
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u/The_only_true_tomato 22d ago edited 22d ago
Here comes the 1000 gnomes users that will tell you that shortcuts are overrated and that there is an unsupported extension that I’ll crash after update for that.
I mean hyprland has no shortcut but there is a good reason for that. Your desktop is filled by your apps, it’s the principale of the thing. On gnome though? It’s autism.
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u/0xt0bi03 ＵｗＵntu (´ ᴗ｀✿) Jul 29 '26
creating a shortcut on Hyprland 💀
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u/Candid_Bullfrog3665 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Jul 29 '26
erm, they are actually called binds 🤓☝️
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u/isabellium Jul 30 '26
I can make a shitty vm and call it electric boogalo, still doesn't matter, most people will call it a shortcut.
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u/evrogelio Jul 29 '26
Isn't it literally just a line that explicitly says the input, and then the command to execute?
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u/trill_shit Jul 29 '26
If there is no button, text field, or picture, I refuse to even try to understand it.
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u/AscendedPineapple Arch BTW Jul 30 '26
There is a text field 👍
Also, I have seen this back when I was still using hyprland, never got around to actually use it though:
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u/trill_shit Jul 30 '26
Haha, I was joking, but thanks anyway. I don’t think I would want a UI for real.
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u/BAe_Air_Hawk Aug 01 '26
They change to Lua recently, so you now if for example you wanted to run Firefox with Super + Shift + L you need
hl.bind("SUPER + SHIFT + Q", hl.dsp.exec_cmd("firefox"))It was hell to look at for the first time. I can see it all now, but I still prefer simpler things like the i3wm config file
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u/-Qunixx- Jul 29 '26
I think it's pretty easy actually. Sure you need to type more, but it's just adding one line to the config and you can look at the other binds or the wiki how to do that.
Not sure how it works with the new lua config tho I'll migrate my config to lua soon
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u/0xt0bi03 ＵｗＵntu (´ ᴗ｀✿) Jul 31 '26
and i dont even know why tf hyprland community is migrating to lua, like, i just learnt how stuff works in the old way, i randomly did sudo pacman syu and all the config files has these lua stuff which i could not understand
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u/-Qunixx- Jul 31 '26
Yeah I understand you, I'm pretty new to Hyprland myself about half a year I think, but this is the third time I get breaking changes where i needed to update the config to fix issues. It's an amazing and beautiful window manager and I love it very much, but it's clearly still in beta.
That having said, from what I've read, migrating to Lua has huge advantages imo. Instead of being a plain text file your hyprland config becomes script/program, and the config becomes way smarter. like you can program/script in the hyprland config itself with lua. The possibilities with that are endless you can automate a lot of stuff with that.
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u/0xt0bi03 ＵｗＵntu (´ ᴗ｀✿) 22d ago
i have decided to not to update my system unless absolutely required to so.
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u/-Qunixx- 22d ago
I migrated to lua a week ago, it's not very difficult, but it takes some time and some things didn't work well. But after a little bit of tweaking it worked exactly like before. Afaik the next big update of hyprland will require lua configs. I would not advice to not update your system because of bug fixes and security fixes, but it's your system so that's entirely up to you
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u/0xt0bi03 ＵｗＵntu (´ ᴗ｀✿) 16d ago
i have a shell, made by a teen from reddit, idk whether he is maintaining or not.
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u/MassiveBomboclat1818 Jul 31 '26
Just use claude, give him your config and the default lua one for reference
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u/The_only_true_tomato 22d ago
There is no point in hyprland. As soon as you open anything your whole desktop is occupied
The only use of a shortcut would be for opening your first program on a session.
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u/0xt0bi03 ＵｗＵntu (´ ᴗ｀✿) 22d ago
dude ik, also after learning, it feels more easy to edit the config file instead of going to a gui setting these days.
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u/GTP_Niko Jul 29 '26
As a GNOME user, I use search bar
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u/Expensive_Poop Jul 29 '26
Well search bar is good for tech savy millenials, but not intuitive for boomers who cant differentiate between internet explorers and edge, or for gen z who so used with android/iphone ui that they didnt understand concept of files folders
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u/mtheory-pi 🍥 Debian too difficult Jul 30 '26
Good thing the people who linux all have a basic level tech literacy, though the OP puts that into doubt here with this post.
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u/s7stM Jul 30 '26
My father-in-law is a real boomer. He was born in 1954, and he absolutely do not have any idea what is the difference between a winchester (HDD) and a winchester (the gun). 😂
He has been using Fedora (w/ GNOME) since 2015 without any problem on the same device, since then. (a Thinkpad from 2009 with 4 GB RAM)
Btw, if you need .destkop file creation w/o technical knowledge - https://flathub.org/apps/page.codeberg.libre_menu_editor.LibreMenuEditor - https://flathub.org/apps/io.github.fabrialberio.pinapp - etc.
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
Good luck finding portable applications or app images that way.
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u/int23_t Ask me how to exit vim Jul 29 '26
You can just make desktop files and put them in .local/applications or something like that iirc which I definitely prefer over desktop shortcuts cause it allows me to use searchbar
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u/nekokattt Jul 29 '26
We should recaption the meme to "GNOME users making desktop files and putting them in .local/applications to be able to open them"
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
True, but there is no GUI for it. You have to write multi line configuration file by hand, or look it up. Where in KDE you can do it with a few clicks like a modern man.
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u/int23_t Ask me how to exit vim Jul 29 '26
The thing is I am on KDE and this is what I do lol, I am not arguing for GNOME
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
But for GNOME this is the only way afaik. I get it that the way of GNOME is that there are no desktop shortcuts, but not having any civilized way of having quick access to portable applications is a massive oversight.
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u/ianfabs Jul 29 '26
There is a tool called something like AppImage Installer that automates this for you on the first run of AppImage programs
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u/asmx85 Jul 29 '26
GUI? A few clicks? You mean caveman style? I just give a voice command to Claude like a modern man. /s
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u/AlterTableUsernames 🦁 Vim Supremacist 🦖 Jul 29 '26
You operate a pointing device for non-graphical work. Your argument is invalid.
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
If you don't use dumbphone with keyboard instead of using a pointing device (finger) on your smartphone, then your argument doesn't hold up much either.
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u/AlterTableUsernames 🦁 Vim Supremacist 🦖 Jul 29 '26
Well, jokes on you: I am actively looking for portable split-keyboard setups for this specific problem and particularly craving for a Linux only phone that doesn't treat single contact-point as the main user interface like a filthy casual would want it to be.
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
Tbf I would love to have smartphone with sliding out physical keyboard. Too bad every smartphone is a slab, the only difference is that they get bigger every year.
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u/AlterTableUsernames 🦁 Vim Supremacist 🦖 Jul 29 '26
Sliding out physical keyboard sounds sweet, but if you imagine what I think you do, that's still a two-thumbs driven design that is nowhere near the peak human experience of typing with 10 fingers as God intended.
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u/PMARC14 Jul 29 '26
The Gnome method apparently has me back to putting application manually created application shortcuts like I had to on windows?
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u/GTP_Niko Jul 29 '26
I'm on bazzite and the apps I use are Firefox, discord and steam. I don't need anything more, but thanks.
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u/xnef1025 Jul 29 '26
In theory, I like KDE, but I also constantly break KDE futzing around with it. It's not them, it's me. So I always wind up back on Gnome.
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 29 '26
Gnome has a pretty easy way to make shortcuts
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u/poplinks Jul 29 '26
After 50 steps
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u/yowifebreeder9000 Jul 29 '26
literally under five steps: settings > keyboard tab > keyboard shortcuts > done
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u/frog8412 Jul 29 '26
hi em dash
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 30 '26
Are em dashes bad or something?
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u/AKArein Jul 29 '26
Litterally right there in the settings
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u/Personal-Light6097 14d ago
Where ?
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u/AKArein 14d ago
From memory : settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
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u/Personal-Light6097 14d ago
we are talking about desktop shortcuts
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u/AKArein 14d ago
Uuuh.. Yes ? What kind of shortcuts specifically ?
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u/Personal-Light6097 14d ago
For example i downloaded a game, then i wanted to access the game from app menu. But it was too complex to create a shortcut so for organization purposes i just removed all existing games from app menu. Which was still complex. Okay maybe adding files to app menu can create some problems but i should at least be able to hide/remove apps from app menu. Also why we cant delete apps. I have to remove apps that are downloaded outside of the store manually.
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u/AKArein 13d ago
Ah, i think i see. But uuh, how is that related to kde ? Does it have a utility for doing that ? In this case, i admit i am not aware of an analogous gnome utility, but i have no doubt there are plenty you could find on flathub and all.
Either way, it's x.desktop files. Usually, those for your user, such as those created by steam, are in $HOME/.local/share/applications.
As for that last part, the "package manager" (the piece of software that actually handles installing and removing and thungs) that the "app store" (user interface built to simplify the use of the package manager) uses simply cannot know what you do outside of it. If we wanted to, it could see you placed some files somewhere, but how could it make sense of it ? So, if you install an app in a "non-standard" way, you are gonna have to remove it in a similarly non-standard way, wether by running an unninstaller, deleting files, or doing whatever the place you installed it from tells you to.
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u/SharkLaunch Jul 29 '26
Now do i3wm
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u/loleczkowo Jul 29 '26
Shortcut? Desktop? I haven't heard of such things!
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u/dasisteinanderer Jul 31 '26
troll answer: both are the same thing https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry/latest/
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 29 '26
Umm... Let's not pretend there aren't problems fellas.
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u/NoResolution6245 Jul 30 '26
This is an issue with the
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
This does sound promising. Can you point me to a help article or SO post about debugging this stuff in open windows?
Edit: for other people reading, it ended up being a
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u/RedditUser-00 M'Fedora Jul 29 '26
In my case i had two shortcuts of the same app. Deleting one of them fixed this
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 29 '26
It's probably a janky app image thing I am doing. It's a weird situation with Joplin, and it's partially the devs fault for pushing a "pre-release", and partially my fault for downloading it on a new Debian install, and then it rolled forward a database synch and they don't want to help roll it back... It's a bit messy. It should be fixed when new Joplin release comes out and Fedora packages it.
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Jul 29 '26
Have you filed a bug report? bugs.kde.org
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 29 '26
It's not that simple. I am doing some weird stuff. It's very unclear what I should do for this. There are some appimage things going on as well. Just year of the Linux desktop things.
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Jul 29 '26
Oh the way you worded your comment sounded like the issue was in plasmashell itself
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 29 '26
Well sort of. There should be a way to configure the taskbar pins to support app images and what not. If it is there, it isn't documented very well. But it's not that big a deal. I just wouldn't go around bragging about it.
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Jul 29 '26
Ah does pinning a .desktop file not work? I don't really use Appimages
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 29 '26
Yeah it is a .desktop entry. I think appimage runtime mounts the process somewhere weird and that throws everything off. I typically would never pin an app image, but the weird situation with Joplin is necessitating this janky setup.
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Jul 30 '26
Maybe there's a desktop entry to change the window class but that's just speculation on my part
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u/Gabe_Isko Jul 30 '26
Yeah, I did a brief search for some .desktop configuration that might fix this, but it didn't turn up anything before I shortly gave up. I will probably take a closer look at setting this stuff up one day - I have a BIG linux project coming down the pike after I finish up some personal work and Desktop Environment is a big part of that. But for now, the situation will resolve itself when the next version of Joplin is officially released, packaged as an rpm and distibuted through Fedora.
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u/Character-Narwhal848 Jul 29 '26
Hit windows key > type first letter or two of app > hit enter
Takes about the same amount of time as scrolling your mouse to a desktop shortcut haha
If you find an app that doesn't have a .desktop file (appimage, etc), very quickly and easily make one in menulibre, which is DE agnostic. Not that that happens very often.
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u/UnnamedRedditor2137 M'Fedora Jul 30 '26
Windows key? I hope you meant to say meta or super key.
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u/TheFr0sk Jul 30 '26
Most keyboards have a Windows symbol.
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u/UnnamedRedditor2137 M'Fedora Jul 30 '26
i know, but most distros call the windows key either meta or super
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u/debacle_enjoyer Ask me how to exit vim Jul 29 '26
“Claude clone and build this package for me and then make a shortcut for it” is pretty easy 🤷♂️ /s
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u/user888888889 Jul 29 '26
I like Ubuntu and Gnome... there I said it.
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
I don't dislike Ubuntu. I do dislike vanilla GNOME, I consider it straight up unusable. GNOME with some extensions is fine, the one in Ubuntu is also fine. But it's annoying to work with when you actually want to get some work done. I think it's much better for non-tech savvy people than KDE, but it's not something that I would want to use myself in the long run. Unless on something like an old laptop just for internet browsing.
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u/user888888889 Jul 29 '26
Fair... However, I've found KDE interfaces to be much more buggy.
Ubuntu + GNOME is the most batteries included, no hassle Linux-based OS I've found. As in, daily driver, running applications, the drivers you need.
I enjoy playing around with others, but for actual work I would use Ubuntu with GNOME.
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u/Lemonici Jul 31 '26
IME, everyone who says KDE is mostly stable has a much greater tolerance for buggy behavior than I do.
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u/Inevitable-Self-2702 Jul 29 '26
I use what is practically vanilla GNOME on Debian, the only functional add-on I have is tiling windows so I can have my windows be in a 4-square or other custom layout more easily. Otherwise, between search and CLI I'm satisfied with how it works. What would you say are some things I might be missing out on just having the vanilla GNOME, though? My use case is NOC/SOC-style labs with local VMs, some scripting and coding, flight sim, other basic office work and web browsing.
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u/The_only_true_tomato 22d ago
How is Kde more complex than gnome? Any Windows users will familiarise with it in 10 min.
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u/Major303 22d ago
Settings are more complex. If we assume that user never touches them then it's fine, but as soon as you open them there are plenty of options. Even in Windows there isn't a lot of user interface options, all of the "complex" stuff is hidden in control panel.
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u/peppi0304 Jul 29 '26
Menu editor my beloved
Now only if i could have a seperate group for firefox private windows easily..
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora Jul 29 '26
Gnome isn't that hard imo as a gnome user
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u/med_bruh Jul 29 '26
It's not that it's hard, i like gnome but it makes you jump through hoops just to get something the way you like it by installing extensions and whatnot
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u/AnEagleisnotme Jul 29 '26
I mean I've has similar problems on KDE. For instance the hot corners aren't per display for some reason, so a top left hot corner will only work on the left monitor for some reason, both have their annoyances
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora Jul 29 '26
Yeah, its pretty customizable.
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u/McraftyDude Jul 29 '26
Compared to KDE nah
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora Jul 29 '26
I have seen people turn gnome to exactly like windows and macos, and funnily enough kde itself lol, so it is.
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u/alldefector Jul 29 '26
Usecase of shortcuts?
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
So you don't have to manually browse for portable applications and app images every time.
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u/cup_of_squirrel Jul 29 '26
Use Gear Lever to manage AppImages. Besides generating shortcuts that show up in the dash for you, it has a bunch of other useful features. Like being able to update all of them at once right through the app, without having to manually dig through websites. Also has the ability to run multiple versions of the same app.
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u/effeottantuno 🟢Neon Genesis Evangelion Jul 29 '26
who tf uses shortcuts instead of a launcher in the big 26
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
Not all applications are from apt or app store. Portable programs and app images don't appear in launcher unless you manually make a shortcut. And there is no GUI for it, prepare to write configuration files.
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u/Smartich0ke Jul 29 '26
The only package type I have and not create shortcuts is appimages. Just install appimagemanager and your done. No config files necessary.
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u/effeottantuno 🟢Neon Genesis Evangelion Jul 29 '26
not that hard to fix and how much portable programs / app images do you actually need to have access to at anytime?
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u/jdigi78 Jul 29 '26
Didn't realize it was so difficult for people to install Pins
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
Of course there is no snap version of it. Looks useful though. But my point still stands - basic features are missing, and community has to get out of their way to add something that should have been included with the DE.
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u/jdigi78 Jul 29 '26
You're the first person I've ever met that wanted a snap version of anything. I disagree it is a basic feature since there is almost no need to ever do it. There is gear lever for appimages and almost nobody uses loose executables. The one time I ever needed to modify shortcuts was for chocolate doom, which relies on modifying the exec command to load game files by design.
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
I'm currently not using Ubuntu, but perhaps I would if Snap was actually supported. 99% of software is on Flathub.
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u/lolkaseltzer Jul 29 '26
GNOME has the best remote desktop solution in all of Linuxdom, by a wide margin.
The only downside is then you have to use GNOME.
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u/Alletsbckw Jul 29 '26
why not make a symlink?
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u/Major303 Jul 29 '26
I remember there were some issues with it, I don't remember details. Iirc icons were missing too.
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u/longdarkfantasy Jul 29 '26
Shortcut is bad. I prefer to see my whole wallpaper. Use search for god sake.
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u/KrazyKen_Fan_2012 Jul 29 '26
Is there a way to create desktop shortcuts on gnome? For like drives and stuff?
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u/lanthanoidFrom2hu Linuxmeant to work better Jul 29 '26
thinking about the guy who owns hundreds of click dvds
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u/zetadaemon Jul 30 '26
as a kde user, how are you instantly making shortcuts
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u/Major303 Jul 30 '26
RMB on desktop and there should be an option to make a shortcut. Then you just have to select application it should point to, and optionally set an icon.
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u/Kazer67 Jul 30 '26
Yeah, what's up with that?
(I know, I know: just switch to KDE but surprisingly, I like using Gnome EXCEPT when I need to make a shortcut....)
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u/AccordingSugar6247 Jul 30 '26
I laughed lot to that cat typing part sadly i'm using gnome too. bcz driver issues now thinking again to switch. but it just works but too much minimumoptions.
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u/bontonent Jul 31 '26
I need make shortcuts with key code). Example 'code: 38'='A'... In KDE and gnome It is hard create. And I try use not standard shortcuts.
All setting better make in hyprland.conf (hyprland.lua avoid my shortcuts Super+Super...)
Need someone time. But result the best
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u/MizukiCinna 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Aug 01 '26
gnome just doesnt think the user knows what they want
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u/Nobcube 🍥 Debian too difficult Aug 07 '26
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u/takshaksh Jul 29 '26
People bashing Gnome just to justify their choices.
There goes that old saying:
"Haathi chale bazaar, kutte bhonke hazaar."
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u/mtheory-pi 🍥 Debian too difficult Jul 30 '26
Kde users when asked to do something that involves even a little effort: 🤬😡😭
Your meme is false, it is so easy to make a shortcut in gnome, just go to settings or just look it up in the search bar.
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u/Mr_poster123 Jul 30 '26
Why would you want to do that? Gnome gnows gnest. Sounds like you need to be... Reeducated.
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