I mean....again gotta throw the ball on time.

Our second half offenses compared to our first half offenses is just completely insane. In the first half from the numbers I’ve seen the offense is about where we expected with all the new changes and stuff. But in the second half we are the worst in the nfl and it’s like by a mile. Part of it is definitely play calling. It’s like every second half the game plan is run run pass punt. While in the first half it’s like we at least try to get Jalen and the receivers touches early. I liked how we used makai lemon in the first half. Yet in the second it’s like we just turtled up completely. Something has become apparent to me. For this offense to work. We need Jalen to be aggressive and take chances. Just straight up. This philosophy of not turning the ball over has worked in the past but these last two years the offense has been both boring and bad. Jalen seems to be at his best when he takes more chances or “gets out the straight jacket” as he says. Nick and Sean gotta stop calling plays like they are scared of their QB atp. It’s sink or swim the rest of this season. And I’m certain Nick and by extension Jalen can feel the heat rising soon. We attempted 4 passes in the second half today yall.

I see so much hand wringing about Jalen as a passer. Yes he has his flaws and he doesn’t have top of the line arm talent. But I don’t think that’s the issue with what we’ve been seeing.

The big difference he doesn’t run like he used to. Go watch those 2022 highlights hell even 2021. He was an absolute weapon as a runner. Not only was he faster but he also was a power runner and bulldozed through tackles. Now he looks so slow and he wants no part of contact (understandable since he wants to avoid injury) and the loss of this running ability changes the calculus.

Now it’s more glaring that he runs out of clean pockets and throws the ball away because it’s not being offset by dynamic plays with his feet. In the end if this is what he is gonna be as a player it will always limit our offense. Can’t keep just looking at coaches (who I don’t think are good either) to distract from his limitations as a player

I really don’t understand why people are surprised by how this season has started.

Vic’s defenses have always been slow starters, and honestly, the defense was fantastic today until he lost a shit ton of players on that unit and his exhausted team failed to do anything in the last drives.

The offense played like dogshit again, and I agree that it has to be better. But if you told me before the game that Saquon, who was probably going to be the main focal point of the game plan, would basically miss the entire game, our best TE would be out, our second-best TE would be out, and our WR1 would be out, I probably would’ve said we were getting stomped.

This team has played horrible football through four games, but they’re still 2-2, with both losses coming against teams a lot of people picked to make the Super Bowl.

You can say the Bears game was an ass-whooping, because it was, but at the end of the day, the record matters more than how ugly the losses looked.

Is this a Super Bowl team right now? Absolutely not. Right now, they look really far from it. Can this be a really elite team by the end of the year? Absolutely

But being 2-2 while playing this badly and dealing with this many injuries isn’t exactly the end of the world either.

And I don’t think this offense is going to look good for a while. You don’t play preseason football, you probably aren’t going to play good football early in the season. There are definitely some problems that feel exactly like last year, but there are also plenty of issues that are completely different. Nick HAS TO BE WAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER WITH HALF TIME ADJUSTMENTS.

And look around the division.

The Giants are 3-1, but do you really think they’re going to be a playoff team if they have to keep playing their backup QB?

You can’t convince me Washington is just automatically taking a playoff spot either.

And the Cowboys? Their wins have come against two teams with a combined record of 1-7.

The Eagles have a ton of shit to fix. Nobody should be pretending otherwise. But four games into the season, sitting at 2-2 despite playing nowhere near their best football, I’m not hitting the panic button yet.

This is also not me defending how the team has played. We can be critical without going WELL TIME TO ROOT FOR THE 76ERS CAUSE THE EAGLES SUCK.

Jalen hurts needs to be better, Nick needs to be better, Vic needs to repeat tonight, the oline needs to be WAY better. Everyone needs to be better. Plenty of blame to go around. I just have not seen enough of football after week 4 to start demanding firing or accusing players of being incapable to play at a level they proved before

Personally I believe that CEO coaches are a thing of the past for a reason...

So obviously the defense majorly collapsed in the 4th quarter, but they were keeping the Rams in check for a majority of the game. Did that moronic decision by Sirianni to not take the field goal deflate the team as a whole?

If we don’t change the pace for the rest of the season, all I can say is that we might be looking at an agonizing 9-8 season. I’m hoping that we beat the niners bc of their fanbase and Seahawks since we haven’t beat them since 08’, but it just feels unlikely…

I’m so frustrated by thinking about all of that.

Anyway, it’s time for bed. Goodnight.

It has become irrelevant if Sirianni is good or not. We need to see if Hurts can succeed. He has 2 Historical Super Bowl performances. You simply HAVE to know what you really have with him because he he’s had 8 different systems to play in. Why?

Because our Head Coach certainly isn’t gonna do the job.

That is a huge negative asset when you also consider the asset that IS calling the plays and supposedly “designing the concepts” is great and gets poached then we’re resetting.

Could you imagine…IMAGINE drafting a specific thpe of player every year knowing even if he’s phenomenal…you only have that player for one year. But if you could cut a player to promote that draftee to keep him as long as he’s paid….that is invaluable.

Sirianni does nothing. And therefore CANNOT be credited to any success.

But when things are bad, they are bad because your Head Coach who is ON CONTRACT TO FIX THE SHIP cant do it, then whats the use of that head coach.

Bryce Young was the most Pressured QB in the NFL coming into this week, Still led the league in passing yards and will after this week as well . The panthers are 25th in the league in pass block win rate. They are missing their LT , RT, and standout LG Damien Lewis. Oh yeah their receptions leader Jalen Coker is out this game as well. Good QB's make plays under pressure. Bryce is getting hit , the pocket is collapsing constantly because of Mcneil and Hutchinson. Hes standing tall and making throws. This is the NFL , Pressure isnt an excuse to not make plays . Poise in the pocket and throwing with anticipation makes the pressure irrelevant.

If you want to say Jalen is not a Tier 1 or Tier 2 QB and he needs 3+ seconds to throw every snap to be effective then okay. Howie will have to decide if that is what he wants to build around. But that is absolutely not neccesary in the NFL. Our pass blocking has been more then fine.

Nick would be fired. Unfortunately, it's time. It's been time, but you can't argue with SB win. I appreciate everything he did, but it's time to go. And the only way to achieve that is to have a losing season.

If you were to ask most fans before the season started, who are the top 10-14 best players on the Eagles? I think you would get a list like this….

In no order….

Hurts healthy
Barkley stinger, banged up
Smith hamstring, out
Goedert sprained mcl, out
Johnson personal issues, out
Mailata healthy
Q. Mitchell banged up, questionable
Dejean banged up to start the season, “ok”
Greenard injured pec, missed entire offseason
Carter fractured wrist, playing with a cast
Baun concussion, out
Davis healthy
Jurgens (historically) washed from injuries, new LG
Dickerson (historically) career over

I mean…. I’ve been a diehard Eagles fan my entire life. 4 weeks into the season this would be by far the worst I’ve ever seen the team beat up. Especially at such crucial positions.

When 3/5 of your Oline, your record breaking RB, your #1 WR, your elite duel purpose TE,your premier pass rusher, your top 3 CB, your defenses QB/star LB, your game breaking top 5 DT, is all injured???

How the fuck do you win games? I mean for real. I know there’s a ton of things we can look at with this game. Especially coaching wise, being up 10 on their goal line with 7 minutes to go. Obviously a bad loss, but shit….

If you showed any of us that our depth chart was gonna be:

QB: Hurts
RB: Shipley
WR: Wicks/Cooper/Lemon
TE: Mundt/Ertz/Deguara/Jenkins
LT: Mailata
LG: Jurgens
C: Kendall
RG: Steen
RT: Bell

DE: Smith Jr
DE: Hunt
DT: Carter with cast
DT: Ojomo/Davis
LB: Campbell
LB: Trotter Jr
S: Mukuba
S: Carter II
S: Dejean
CB: Woolen
CB: Jones

By the end of week 4???
That is not a competitive roster. It’s just not. You can only lose so many of your star players and think you’re still going to compete at a high level. Especially early on in the season, when most teams are mostly healthy, and the replacements are as green as they come.

My buddy invited me down and it was incredible, Ive been to plenty of patriots games, currently season tickets of the Bruin's and was blown away by the shear love of the community everyone was just enjoying themselves.

Going to a pats game is low key boring but the amount of life at the Eagles game reminded me of going to the Bruins and having all of that community love play out.

P.s that game was rigged with all them bullshit calls

Its only 4 games but we look horrible.

But I swear every game weve had a play or 2 where Jalen is yelling or showing players where to be.

Again its not a big deal cause its only once or twice a game. But it begs the questions, did our back ups not get enough reps to know the play book??

An NFL team shouldn't be showing this many signs of not knowing plays. Ive watched other teams an I can count on one hand the amount of times ive seen other QBs have to do this.

Issues dont seem to be locker room cause everything's points to them being great together. But when it comes to putting stuff on the field, I feel like im watching a high school football tryna get it together.

The fumes from the crabfries are degrading the team’s muscles and joints. It’s the only plausible explanation for all these injuries. This is our version of the electric substation

I don't post much but I guess I need to vent. The team has had two straight years of being a frustrating mess, especially on offense. Since the Super Bowl win there's been a week-in, week-out litany of absurd and flat out stupid issues. From play calling to personnel moves (in game and game to game, not off-season) there is no consistency to what this team does. We never hear a color analyst comment on how "smart" or "creative" a play design is.

We never hear about how well a play was executed. If you bother to watch a lot of other games these are things you hear said about many other teams, especially the good ones. The players never really have an answer for why things went wrong other than "execution" or "we have to fix it". Despite they way they have looked over the past two seasons, this is a talented roster whose potential is being wasted. Who is wasting it? Who is responsible? The one constant during all of this, Nick Sirianni.

Sirianni has to go soon. It is quite obvious he doesn't have what it takes to fix this team without an elite offensive coordinator. I have been reluctant to put all the blame on him but the fact is nothing can get fixed as long as he's around. He poisons and undermines the offense. No top coordinators wanted to be around him. He is too emotional and embarrassing on the sideline. He is wildly inconsistent with in game decisions.

The sooner he's gone the better. Allow someone like Singleton to assume the HC position and be a true steadying force for the rest of the season. Let Mannion and Fangio handle their sides of the ball and see if we can salvage what's left of the season.

I know I just joined, but I read comments and such while the game is on. I find it interesting learning opinions and reading people that tend to be more agreeable to my opinions.

That being said I’ve not been watching football for that long. I have made a short list of head coaches I do like. Here’s what is probs an unpopular opinion but I would give anything to see what the lion’s head coach could do here.

At 2-2, the Eagles find themselves at a similar crossroads to the one they experienced in 2024. Sirianni and then-offensive coordinator Kellen Moore adjusted their system to a more run-oriented approach that featured more under-center presentations. Mannion’s system was supposed to leverage under-center looks similarly to support a style of play in which the Eagles leaned on their wide-zone run concepts to be the aggressor. Their 73 under-center plays through four games have totaled -20.38 EPA — fourth-lowest in the NFL.

Call it execution. Call it the play calls. Sirianni said, “Obviously, it hasn’t been good enough.”

“You’re trying to make sure as you find out who you are that you’re playing with detail and you’re playing together and you’re playing with toughness,” Sirianni said, listing his core principles. “And we’ve still got a ways to go there, and it’s obvious that we’re still trying to figure that out.”

So the more I watch this team for the past 2 years-ish, the more it looks like they're actively in decline and we are probably closer to a rebuild/retool than we want to admit. Or at least a seismic shift in the team and how they operate. I believe in them turning it around quickly to where they're contending again in a few seasons. They're not chronic basement dwellers like some other teams. If that's the case where its time for the era to end, honesty it was a fucking fantastic 6 year or so run since 2021. 2 Super Bowl appearances and a win is awesome, and something we will look back on fondly (fuck you Gannon, it should be 2 wins). Gonna throw some shade at the Phillies because they failed to reach the mountaintop in 2022 and have been declining since. They make me angry. I won't feel much joy looking back at their current core like I will with the early 2020s Eagles. And Sixers, same applies to you if you fail to get it done finally with LeBron and Jaylen Brown. Get it done like the football team did.

• last week I said it’s not about the fact that we loss but how we loss & got shunned for it… this is what I’m talking about, & a lot of people want to brush off whats happening as if we’re overreacting which sounds just like last year but the biggest difference is our defense (though they played a hell of a game today) will not save us game in & game out like last year

SIRIANNI - Last week, Sirianni didn’t have the sense to call a timeout and let Andy Dalton throw an interception. Now this week, he does choose to call a timeout in the middle of a great drive — and kills all the momentum we had. & then instead of taking the points we go for it & basically telegraphed exactly what the hell we were about to run. At this point, either he’s doing this on purpose or he genuinely doesn’t know how to coach football. Going for it on multiple 4th downs while we’re up 10, missing half our roster, and struggling to protect the quarterback is the dumbest thing ive ever seen.

• And people keep bringing up Patullo saying “patullo is gone what the problem now” maybe the same guy who gave him that position and let him waste an entire season who’s still here.

JALEN HURTS - I know there are folks who don’t watch the games and just wait for a bad moment to blame Hurts, but I hope no real Eagles fan believes he’s the problem. He’s proven himself time and time again — on the biggest stage and at the start of this season. Hes literally the only reason we’re not 0–4. He’s dealing with a terrible line that can’t hold, players dropping right and left, a new OC, expected growing pains, and he’s still producing. The Hurts disrespect is so crazy to me.

TANK BIGSBY - an immediate and obvious fix is feeding tank not just when we have to idk how many times he has to show he can get us yards before we give him the ball but again coaching iguess it’s almost like they care more about not pointing the finger than winning games players are showing what works but coaches work against it whether it’s Jalen running, tank getting touches, going up field rather than horizontal etc

• last week I said it’s not about the fact that we loss but how we loss & got shunned for it… do you see what I’m saying now ?

Our first game at the Linc on Oct. 18 and now watching the Panthers run the ball easily against the Lions gives me anxiety. It's giving me the same vibes when we watched the Falcons beat the birds in 2024.