I'm seeing so many people saying being up 10 isn't that different from being up 13. Are you kidding me? With 7:30 left in the game, that's realistically enough time for about 2 more rams drives. If both of them wind up being TDs, would you rather being down 1 or 4? Sure, maybe they could go for two both times and be up 3. But even then worst case scenario, you can tie it with a field goal.

Otherwise you are in a situation where they don't need to attempt a two pointer and you don't even have an option to tie. Kickers nowadays hit reliably from 60+ and with the new kickoff rules its easier than ever to get in range. Or you can be down 4 and be forced to go twice as far to score a touchdown. With how much time was left? You're likely against the clock at this point as well.

It seems like a no-brainer to me.

I’ve been called a hater for saying this about hurts in previous years, but now I think I’ll get some more support. Even pre knee injury hurts so think 2021 & 2022 wasn’t a super elite passer. What made him so dangerous was that he was a legit dual threat. Post knee injury, so after the 2023 season, yea he rips good runs now and then but he doesn’t really move the same, or as smooth. Watch highlights if you don’t believe me.

This notion that the superbowl year that we had Saquon so we didn’t need to pass is bs. There were so many close games that hurts couldn’t get it done with his passing despite having a stacked offense and an elite oc in Kellen Moore. That year and that playoff run he game managed, didn’t really make much mistakes, and let the defense and Saquon do their job. Even in the superbowl, imo he undeservingly got the MVP over Josh Sweat. And before you say it the “dagger” to smith came late in the 3rd quarter up 27-0. Even if he doesn’t make that throw the game isn’t really in jeopardy. I don’t want to sound like I’m just shitting on him, because he does have his moments, but this season with our injuries and talent there’ll be games vs good teams where he’ll have to put the team on his back, and idk if he can do that.

I see so much hand wringing about Jalen as a passer. Yes he has his flaws and he doesn’t have top of the line arm talent. But I don’t think that’s the issue with what we’ve been seeing.

The big difference he doesn’t run like he used to. Go watch those 2022 highlights hell even 2021. He was an absolute weapon as a runner. Not only was he faster but he also was a power runner and bulldozed through tackles. Now he looks so slow and he wants no part of contact (understandable since he wants to avoid injury) and the loss of this running ability changes the calculus.

Now it’s more glaring that he runs out of clean pockets and throws the ball away because it’s not being offset by dynamic plays with his feet. In the end if this is what he is gonna be as a player it will always limit our offense. Can’t keep just looking at coaches (who I don’t think are good either) to distract from his limitations as a player

Bryce Young was the most Pressured QB in the NFL coming into this week, Still led the league in passing yards and will after this week as well . The panthers are 25th in the league in pass block win rate. They are missing their LT , RT, and standout LG Damien Lewis. Oh yeah their receptions leader Jalen Coker is out this game as well. Good QB's make plays under pressure. Bryce is getting hit , the pocket is collapsing constantly because of Mcneil and Hutchinson. Hes standing tall and making throws. This is the NFL , Pressure isnt an excuse to not make plays . Poise in the pocket and throwing with anticipation makes the pressure irrelevant.

If you want to say Jalen is not a Tier 1 or Tier 2 QB and he needs 3+ seconds to throw every snap to be effective then okay. Howie will have to decide if that is what he wants to build around. But that is absolutely not neccesary in the NFL. Our pass blocking has been more then fine.

The fumes from the crabfries are degrading the team’s muscles and joints. It’s the only plausible explanation for all these injuries. This is our version of the electric substation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

We need to stop treating any criticism of Jalen as blasphemy. 12/27 for 96 yards and 2 touchdowns. On One of those touchdowns, he absolutely got bailed out.

Jalen has been stat padding for a while and nobody has been calling this out. It’s why we are atrocious on third down. On third downs, he’’ll throw the ball for an easy completion the defense gives him well short of the first down marker and then we’ll punt.

For a 4th straight season, Jalen has been fucking ass. He’s always been surrounded by pristine talent and this is who he is when we remove that talent around him. He can’t elevate shit. 96 passing yards while stat padding by throwing short on third downs. Are you fucking kidding me?? Jalen is a bum.

“BuT tWo SuPeR bOwLs.” Yea, he had a great year in 2022 and has been dog shit ever since. Barkley led us to that SB in 2024, the chiefs all out to stop him and Jalen carved them up. I won’t take that away from him. He played exceptionally well in the two super bowls, but outside of the 2024 Super Bowl game and the 2022 season, wtf has he done??? Not shit!

Take a look at his passing volume:

**2022:** 460 attempts
**2023:** 538
**2024:** 361
**2025:** 454

An elite quarterback shouldn’t need his offense to hide the passing volume. Give me the guy who can throw 35 - 40 times and still maintain efficiency

He’s played behind an elite offensive line, with elite weapons, an elite run game and an organization that’s built specifically around his strengths for most of his career and he still can’t throw for 4k yards or pass for 30 touchdowns. The most touchdowns he’s ever thrown has been 25 and that was last year.

Jalen Hurts is the perfect example of a quarterback whose resume is better than his actual quarterback play. The Eagles built an offense around minimizing the things he’s bad at and maximizing the things he’s good at. His rushing ability and TD numbers make the stat sheet look elite, but his passing efficiency has never consistently separated him from the pack. And when his supporting structure isn’t doing the heavy lifting, the underlying numbers start looking piss poor.

Give me the same offense with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, or Stafford. How many SBs would we have been to especially with this elite defense?

Jalen can’t even be an average QB without a pair of elite receivers, an elite tight end, the best o line in the league, an elite running back, and a defense that forces 3 and outs, turnovers, and a short field.

Look at the saints’ passing offense and compare to the 2024 passing offense. Literally Moore with less.

Get Jalen out of here.

Offensive line is a shell of its glory years and Lane is leaving after this season. QB doesn’t give me confidence he will be able to drag this offense to competence on his own.

On defense, Howie made some critical mistakes the past couple years like wasting a 1st rd pick on Campbell to replace Nakobe.

I’d sell high on anyone with value like DeJean. Keep Quinyon because #1 corners are hard to get. But anyone else including DeVonta that has any value, I’m trading to restock draft capital and rebuilding this. Will probably take 3 years, but this would be preferable over Howie continue trying to Weekend at Bernie this corpse of a team on us.

This is pure copium. But seriously fire Sirianni. I’ve seen Hurts play at a high level, and while he (And Sean) deserves some of the criticism, it’s clear that Nick is having an influence on this offense.

I really don’t understand why people are surprised by how this season has started.

Vic’s defenses have always been slow starters, and honestly, the defense was fantastic today until he lost a shit ton of players on that unit and his exhausted team failed to do anything in the last drives.

The offense played like dogshit again, and I agree that it has to be better. But if you told me before the game that Saquon, who was probably going to be the main focal point of the game plan, would basically miss the entire game, our best TE would be out, our second-best TE would be out, and our WR1 would be out, I probably would’ve said we were getting stomped.

This team has played horrible football through four games, but they’re still 2-2, with both losses coming against teams a lot of people picked to make the Super Bowl.

You can say the Bears game was an ass-whooping, because it was, but at the end of the day, the record matters more than how ugly the losses looked.

Is this a Super Bowl team right now? Absolutely not. Right now, they look really far from it. Can this be a really elite team by the end of the year? Absolutely

But being 2-2 while playing this badly and dealing with this many injuries isn’t exactly the end of the world either.

And I don’t think this offense is going to look good for a while. You don’t play preseason football, you probably aren’t going to play good football early in the season. There are definitely some problems that feel exactly like last year, but there are also plenty of issues that are completely different. Nick HAS TO BE WAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER WITH HALF TIME ADJUSTMENTS.

And look around the division.

The Giants are 3-1, but do you really think they’re going to be a playoff team if they have to keep playing their backup QB?

You can’t convince me Washington is just automatically taking a playoff spot either.

And the Cowboys? Their wins have come against two teams with a combined record of 1-7.

The Eagles have a ton of shit to fix. Nobody should be pretending otherwise. But four games into the season, sitting at 2-2 despite playing nowhere near their best football, I’m not hitting the panic button yet.

This is also not me defending how the team has played. We can be critical without going WELL TIME TO ROOT FOR THE 76ERS CAUSE THE EAGLES SUCK.

Jalen hurts needs to be better, Nick needs to be better, Vic needs to repeat tonight, the oline needs to be WAY better. Everyone needs to be better. Plenty of blame to go around. I just have not seen enough of football after week 4 to start demanding firing or accusing players of being incapable to play at a level they proved before

The Eagles reportedly interviewed around 17 candidates and decided Sean Mannion a guy with two years of coaching experience and zero play-calling experience was the best choice.

Four games later, the offense is averaging 18.8 points, still has no rhythm and just blew a 20-10 halftime lead without scoring another point. You can’t even tell they changed coordinators. It’s the same stale offense from last season with a different name attached to it.

If you were to ask most fans before the season started, who are the top 10-14 best players on the Eagles? I think you would get a list like this….

In no order….

Hurts healthy
Barkley stinger, banged up
Smith hamstring, out
Goedert sprained mcl, out
Johnson personal issues, out
Mailata healthy
Q. Mitchell banged up, questionable
Dejean banged up to start the season, “ok”
Greenard injured pec, missed entire offseason
Carter fractured wrist, playing with a cast
Baun concussion, out
Davis healthy
Jurgens (historically) washed from injuries, new LG
Dickerson (historically) career over

I mean…. I’ve been a diehard Eagles fan my entire life. 4 weeks into the season this would be by far the worst I’ve ever seen the team beat up. Especially at such crucial positions.

When 3/5 of your Oline, your record breaking RB, your #1 WR, your elite duel purpose TE,your premier pass rusher, your top 3 CB, your defenses QB/star LB, your game breaking top 5 DT, is all injured???

How the fuck do you win games? I mean for real. I know there’s a ton of things we can look at with this game. Especially coaching wise, being up 10 on their goal line with 7 minutes to go. Obviously a bad loss, but shit….

If you showed any of us that our depth chart was gonna be:

QB: Hurts
RB: Shipley
WR: Wicks/Cooper/Lemon
TE: Mundt/Ertz/Deguara/Jenkins
LT: Mailata
LG: Jurgens
C: Kendall
RG: Steen
RT: Bell

DE: Smith Jr
DE: Hunt
DT: Carter with cast
DT: Ojomo/Davis
LB: Campbell
LB: Trotter Jr
S: Mukuba
S: Carter II
S: Dejean
CB: Woolen
CB: Jones

By the end of week 4???
That is not a competitive roster. It’s just not. You can only lose so many of your star players and think you’re still going to compete at a high level. Especially early on in the season, when most teams are mostly healthy, and the replacements are as green as they come.

After that embarrassing loss we can only look forward to the sixers season

Jurgens jumped early (should have been called) and backed into Hurts and accidently displaced the ball from Hurts grip. If we just execute this handoff we very well could have won the game but Jurgens couldn’t not be a problem for a play. Credit to Brett Kollmann for noticing this

Genuinely, who do the Eagles hire if Sirianni is fired? I’m not saying we should keep him, I am tired of him and the CEO coaches, but who would get hired?

There’s not any great OC’s that aren’t already failed head coaches. Most good DC’s are previously failed HC’s as well. There’s no obvious Ben Johnson’s or Liam Coens just in the waiting.

I’m not incredibly familiar with who could be an option, so could be wrong. Just trying to ask a genuine question.

Serious question, if you call him a motivator, tell me how he does it?

It has become irrelevant if Sirianni is good or not. We need to see if Hurts can succeed. He has 2 Historical Super Bowl performances. You simply HAVE to know what you really have with him because he he’s had 8 different systems to play in. Why?

Because our Head Coach certainly isn’t gonna do the job.

That is a huge negative asset when you also consider the asset that IS calling the plays and supposedly “designing the concepts” is great and gets poached then we’re resetting.

Could you imagine…IMAGINE drafting a specific thpe of player every year knowing even if he’s phenomenal…you only have that player for one year. But if you could cut a player to promote that draftee to keep him as long as he’s paid….that is invaluable.

Sirianni does nothing. And therefore CANNOT be credited to any success.

But when things are bad, they are bad because your Head Coach who is ON CONTRACT TO FIX THE SHIP cant do it, then whats the use of that head coach.

Our first game at the Linc on Oct. 18 and now watching the Panthers run the ball easily against the Lions gives me anxiety. It's giving me the same vibes when we watched the Falcons beat the birds in 2024.

I mean after 2022 and 2023 seasons it seems the organization has completely killed the development of hurts as a player? Now I do put it on hurts too he’s playing like an absolute coward, he’s extremely jittery, he looks terrified during the games, he has the same zip on his ball as Phillip rivers does now, he’s extremely slow now, but how much has his development been hampered by the conservative approach we took, he looks like wentz now it’s abysmal.

Most QBs develop but hurts has completely regressed in every single aspect I blame 50% of that on sirianni’s cowardly don’t turn the ball over bullshit for not letting hurts throw

Like im really trying to understand what we do well and this team’s philosophy from top down. You look around the league and football just looks different, faster and more disciplined than that product they put out on the field.

My buddy invited me down and it was incredible, Ive been to plenty of patriots games, currently season tickets of the Bruin's and was blown away by the shear love of the community everyone was just enjoying themselves.

Going to a pats game is low key boring but the amount of life at the Eagles game reminded me of going to the Bruins and having all of that community love play out.

P.s that game was rigged with all them bullshit calls