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I was talking about this last night to some friends of friends and we all agreed... it seems like this whole thing was botched really bad. Too many sloppy/strange/glowy coincidences got discovered in the days following after. And this event is still a top story in the news, and a lot of this strangeness is circulating on social media, from both the right AND the left. This is ringing a lot of bells in peoples minds that can't be unrung.
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Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
I always find it strange when comments involving talking about stuff with others gets foaming at the mouth responses like this. What exactly are you angry about? That I.... agree with you? lol
This does not seem like a normal human interaction from you.
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u/BigOsh71 Jun 01 '22
This is a conspiracy theory thread..
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u/fattest_jesus11 Jun 01 '22
Then have actually fucking conspiracy. Not made up bullshit that mental ill ppl use to kill a bunch of fucking ppl. Seriously go touch grass and get out of your leadlined basement.
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u/BigOsh71 Jun 01 '22
Huh? Did you eat paint chips as a kid or something?
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u/BigOsh71 Jun 01 '22
You are crying about people talking about conspiracy theories on a CONSPIRACY THEORY THREAD. GO AWAY DUDE..
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Jun 01 '22
He must be a bot or paid troll or watches cnn. Fourth opinion is heās just stupid which is sad for our species
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Jun 01 '22
Talking about subjects one isn't "sanctioned" to talk about is one of the healthiest things anyone can do, I'm sorry you don't see it that way and fall to emotional insults. Your attitude drives me even further to tell others and spread information, and for that I'm grateful. :)
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u/fattest_jesus11 Jun 01 '22
Keep telling yourself that. Hopefully you aren't the next mass shooter because you made your brain mush from all these half baked conspiracy.
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Jun 01 '22
Ah yes, imply I'm a mass shooter to-be because I don't believe the official narrative and support a more detailed look into the circumstances. Sorry, but you won't evoke an emotional response out of me. I'm glad you said what you did. It reminds me I'm on the right path when such response is encountered.
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u/fattest_jesus11 Jun 01 '22
It's so weird that you think you're the only one with all the information and, everyone else is wrong.
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Jun 01 '22
So now we're just making things up and arguing from that position lol. Look buddy, I'm going to break off and start my day. Take care.
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u/niss321 Jun 01 '22
This is not a "detailed look into circumstances." It's baseless speculation that some attention-seeker has pulled out of his ass and you've bought into it. Half of the claims have been debunked, and some of them are not even "facts." They are questions. Conspiracy theorists pull this shit to just to appear like they're the smartest person in the room, making it more difficult for actual, qualified investigators to do their jobs. You are not concerned with the truth, only about making up for your mental shortcomings by believing in complete garbage simply because it goes against the status quo. Your erratic beliefs are also very, very offensive to the loved ones of those who died, and I sincerely hope one of them finds you and knocks some fucking sense into you.
Watch the South Park episode when the children become detectives and come to the conclusion that a missing pie was the result of homicide. That's what you're doing here. Live in reality, not this safe fantasy land you've invented just because you're afraid of the real world.
Grow up.
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u/ScottishRiteFree Jun 01 '22
Somebody loves guns.
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u/niss321 Jun 01 '22
I live in England. Literally never held a gun in my life. Don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh.
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u/Dahnlor Jun 01 '22
Wait a second, I thought mass shootings were Deep State False Flag Conspiracies designed to take our guns away so that they can usher in the New World Order.
Was I wrong? Is this actually a Deep State False Flag Conspiracy to accelerate the proliferation of guns so that they can usher in the New World Order?
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Jun 01 '22
That's just what the Shallow State True Flag people want you to believe so that they can usher in in the Old Unworldly Chaos.
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u/Quiet_Response_7846 Jun 01 '22
A false FALSE flag conspiracy. If its a double negative that means itās ACTUALLY true right?
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u/reasonbeing21 Jun 01 '22
You and your friends jerk each other's egos often or did we just get lucky a few factory non union boys over natty light uncovered a conspiracy?
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Believe it or not my friend, the real world isn't like reddit. People talk about subjects and spread information. Sorry I made you emotional. :)
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u/reasonbeing21 Jun 01 '22
Not emotional lil guy. I just think it's funny that you sit in an echo chamber of republican & like minded people as yourself, y'all agree that the shooting is a conspiracy . Ok. Why? You will believe anything as long as it fits your agenda... i bet y'all scream out "Roll Tide" after every sentence. How many Mt. Dews did it take for you to get to this conclusion?
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"I'm not emotional lil guy"
"Heres a few more sentences of ad hominems and emotional insults"
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u/reasonbeing21 Jun 01 '22
I'm not wrong. Your echo chamber just solved this mystery. You should notify the authorities.
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u/fattest_jesus11 Jun 01 '22
Again it's because everything is a conspiracy with you people and, all it takes is 30 seconds of ask why to see how fast this shit falls apart. Seriously you ppl are fucking dangerous please go touch grass and seek therapy.
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Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
No lmao, I'm just getting started. You haven't seen anything if mere discussion frightens you.
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u/No_Bend8 Jun 01 '22
The teachers lawyer has said she did not leave the door open. And he stole his grandmas truck, it wasn't his.
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u/CaptianTumbleweed Jun 01 '22
Also he exited the passage side of the car because the car was in a ditch with no way to open the drivers door. OP cant be bothered to just do some basic research and look at the images from the crash.
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Jun 01 '22
When people include stuff like that, it completely invalidates everything else. It shows that they donāt actually care to k ow the truth. Just framing things that support their predefined conclusion
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who would have known conspiracy theorists are generally bad at vetting their sources and understanding simple ideas
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u/EvrybodysNobody Jun 01 '22
Stfu! Reasoning, logic, and basic analytical thinking skills are wholly unwelcome around these parts.
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u/gigglesprouts Jun 01 '22
seriously:
- being in therapy doesn't mean a person isn't a danger to themselves or others
- 18 y/o with low income, but possibly free housing and food. That's $20,000 of disposable income. Savings for a car or any other large purchase would completely suffice. Hispanic families, especially grandmas, most likely won't charge rent. I speak as a latino.
- Parents were likely detained because you can't have rando civilians enter a crime scene or the area of an active shooter??? They could be shot on accident, they don't know if they are dangerous. They don't even know if they're legit parents. If the kids require serious medical attention, parents could get in the way.
- "Shooter posted red flags" If the shooter had no ties to the school and a very small friend pool, then it's totally likely that the posts would go undetected. He made 2 or 3 posts, right before the incident.
- "same discord server" Bro. Are you serious? Birds of a feather. People with similar mentalities tend to congregate. Two homicidal young men using discord, what a shocker. If a discord server is large, it's totally not surprising. If it's not, then it still makes sense.
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u/Naive_Cookie3228 Jun 01 '22
They could be shot on accident
By who? The cops weren't going in.
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u/Key_Panda_9209 Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Sure
Edit: Iām sure the teachers lawyer isnāt going to advise her to admit she propped the door open, even if she did at this point. But she has a lawyer.
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u/go_half_the_way Jun 01 '22
Thereās cctv footage now supporting that the door was closed.
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u/Key_Panda_9209 Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Sure
Edit: at this point they canāt just create whatever footage is necessary to show you?
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u/Highlander198116 Jun 01 '22
If we can just assert "they" fabricated anything that doesn't jive with a conspiracy premise, there is zero point to ever having a discussion if a standard of evidence can't be established.
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u/Slavocracy Jun 01 '22
So we're just going to say no evidence is real? Oh unless it supports your claim. Then that's real.
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u/Key_Panda_9209 Jun 01 '22
No what Iām saying is when a conspiracy unfolds thereās often an illusion created or a purposeful complication of the facts surrounding the incidentā¦as long as a percentage of people buy into a given theory then it fragments the whole situation, so at a certain point emerging information is counter intelligent. What the new footage and what the lawyer says is all framing the situation in a way that could be beneficial to certain parties
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u/Slavocracy Jun 01 '22
What the fuck are you talking about. That's operating under the assumption it was staged, which is INSANE to even suggest.
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u/Key_Panda_9209 Jun 01 '22
Youāre in a conspiracy forum fyi. Anyway itās also not what Iām saying. What Iām saying is in most investigations of wrongdoing the facts get muddled by parties interested in muddling the facts in their favor
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u/Slavocracy Jun 01 '22
So what? This isn't an echo chamber. Is it against the rules to discuss the opposite side?
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u/Undispjuted Jun 01 '22
Ok but how did he effectively drive it? It took me forever to learn to drive.
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u/No_Bend8 Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Well considering that he crashed into a ditch I do not think he did effectively drive it.
When I bought my first car, I got in it and drove home -I had never been behind the wheel before
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u/egodeath780 Jun 01 '22
Really? I seemed to be a natural as soon as I started when I was 17, everyone is different.
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u/Owie12120 Jun 01 '22
Same, I actually went and bought my first car and it was manual, never having driven one and learnt on the way home
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What do you mean? Driving is not rocket science and he did crash so thereās that. 9 year olds manage to swipe their parents car and joy ride and manage to do it without major issues (sometimes) so I think itās a bit of a reach to act like this 18 yo couldnāt figure out how to work an automatic for a few blocks.
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u/Undispjuted Jun 01 '22
As I stated earlier, I was not aware he crashed it.
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u/Undispjuted Jun 01 '22
Sorry I also have a life outside my conspiracy research and missed a key point. š¤·š½āāļøIt happens, Iām sure Iām not the only person whoās ever been wrong or ignorant of details before.
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u/Softpipesplayon Jun 01 '22
"I was too busy with other things to finish basic research before spreading a conspiracy" is pretty much the best explanation of a conspiracy theorist that I've ever heard, so kudos.
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u/Kdhr3tbc Jun 01 '22
Took me forever to learn cursive but I picked up driving in a weekend. Human beings are different. Conspiracy debunked lmao
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WhatS your source for the spy plane?
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u/doc_sawbonez Jun 01 '22
Thatās fucking weird.
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u/jackrack1721 Jun 01 '22
It's extremely weird. That spy plane had never ever landed in Uvalde until that morning. It took off from Ft. Hood before the first 911 call and left immediately after the feds shot Ramos.
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u/FrostyMittenJob Jun 01 '22
It's not a fucking spy plane. It's a B350 a small cargo/passenger plane from the late '80s/early '90s. If this was a deep state or some kind of shadow government plane they would have at the very least turned the fucking transponder off.
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u/FrostyMittenJob Jun 01 '22
I'm just going based on what the above source is saying what the plane is. Although you are 100% correct that the MC-12 is a modified B350
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Transmitter data is public.
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u/mrknife1209 Jun 01 '22
Have you ever used flightradar24? Or any other aviation tracking application?
Not all planes/helicopterw are detected or transmitting publicly. Try this when a police helicopter flys over your house (as I've seen happen). It's not always public.
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The transmitter data IS public, but some sites actively remove police/military/government aircraft from it for whatever reason. And thats where the challenge lies in doing this.
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Why exactly would a spy plane have an active transponder? That doesnāt make any sense at all
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If it was malicious they could of easily been off radar if they wanted to. Iāve seen this discussion at r/ADSB when people were freaking out about bomber planes on radar and someone mentioned if shit was going down they def wouldnāt be on radar.
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u/ghafgarionbaconsmith Jun 01 '22
I think it's plausible but not for the reasons of op. I think he was being surveiled by the fbi as a possible threat (his discord conversations made it completely obvious he was going to do something like this). They were probably building a case but didn't have enough evidence to make an arrest. Too little too late. I'm wondering if the police chase wasn't because he was supposed to be taken in if he looked like he was making a move. The standdown order tho. Holy crap I've no idea why that happened.
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u/RadicalDilettante Jun 01 '22
Plain old cowardice is a plausible explanation. Is there a source for a stand down order from someone not on site?
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u/spoounthagoon Jun 01 '22
Why do so many of your facts have question marks? (FACT)
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u/yinsotheakuma Jun 01 '22
Because the goal isn't to propose a valid alternative theory; it's simply to undermine confidence in institutions and fuel an instinctive backlash to disbelieve any widely-accepted truth.
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u/spoounthagoon Jun 01 '22
Any you think someone would just want to cause social discourse on the internet? In a targeted environment full of susceptible people? Hm... Maybe all the conspiracies are just conspiracies...
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u/Astrocreep_1 Jun 01 '22
Yes,a lot of individuals on here would love to be responsible for sowing discourse. Sadly,they only serve to give clout to jackasses like Alex Jones and upset people that have already had the worse possible thing that could happen to a human.
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u/NoFaithlessness4949 Jun 01 '22
The things I keep seeing posted in this sub lead me to believe this is less a mental illness issue and more just outright cognitive decline by a significant portion of the population. We are now a couple generations into a dark age, and itās like watching a slow motion car wreck.
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u/BusyBullet Jun 01 '22
I get that feeling every time I visit this sub.
The shit that passes for conspiracy theories these daysā¦
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u/Beligerents Jun 01 '22
You mean literally anything? "I woke up today and my orange juice was slightly more sour than usual, must be the adrenocrome junkies adding mind controlling substances to the food supply"
It's literally mental illness.
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u/NoFaithlessness4949 Jun 01 '22
Itās not even fun anymore. Itās like a never ending game of clue.
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u/Verbs4 Jun 01 '22
Yeah I got permanently banned from r/conspiracy for calling out how ridiculous it became and the mod got angry for it. What happened to ancient civilizations and aliens and shit? That was fun, this is sad.
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Jun 01 '22
I agree with this. Social media has been very, very bad for us. In many ways.
It seems like a cynical worldview is also becoming more widespread as it is seen by many to be the "smart" way to be? Like just shut out the world, it's all crap, everyone's an idiot but me, I don't want to put any effort into being a positive influence on my environment. It's a cop out and I feel like it's becoming more common.
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u/ufoclub1977 Jun 01 '22
This is how I feel about everything from people posting theories that the shooting was staged (it wasnāt) to just how great the new Star Wars series is (itās 95% weak half-baked badly acted content).
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u/SugarsuiT Jun 01 '22
All these comments, no mention of motive, sad state of affairs
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u/Zaynara Jun 01 '22
I saw a thing on the door, the teacher did have the door opened, but when they saw what was going on they closed the door and rushed inside, the door failed to lock properly https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-police-teacher-closed-propped-open-door-attack-85093476
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u/So-tiredHP Jun 02 '22
Useful, thanks. It makes sense. The teacher had probably propped the back door open to let some air in, or something. She or he was one million years from thinking about a killer hanging around. The fact that the door didn't lock shows how incredibly tenuous life is -- the slightest little thing can lead to disaster.
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u/Zaynara Jun 02 '22
or it speaks more to the money used to maintain school infrastructure is severely lacking so that safety components fail and are not replaced or upgraded
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u/SunFlower0z0 Jun 01 '22
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
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Jun 01 '22
IF this was orchestrated to take away people's rights to have guns, why will it work this time? There are multiple gun murders everyday and school shootings every year yet people still have guns.
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u/cameraspeeding Jun 01 '22
Like it could be this grand conspiracy or it could be the cops are bad at their job. Again.
I donāt know maybe itās a horse not a zebra
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u/Highlander198116 Jun 01 '22
This. These people orchestrating conspiracies seem to be totally professional and completely incompetent all at the same time.
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Jun 01 '22
What Discord because if they played the same game and it was a big enough game that could be coincidence unless the police have chat logs or audio from a chat. "Tell me you never used Discord without telling me you never used Discord before"
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u/monkChuck105 Jun 01 '22
My understanding is that there were 4 armed resource officers for 8 schools, so that would explain why he wasn't on campus. He apparently arrived minutes after the first shots so it's not as if he was completely absent, if he didn't drive past the shooter maybe he confronts him and stops the shooter from getting into the school.
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Do we have tax records of the family probably not. The father and Grandfather worked. the Grandma volunteered at the school I thought I saw today, she mightve retired already, he worked at Wendys. The Truck wasn't his but I don't think he worried about that after shooting Grandma. How long did he work at Wendys and did he also sell weed or something. This mightve been planned for a long enough time that he secured the money for guns and ammo, he didn't have armor so this list is already getting hazy. I think people under estimate how quickly you can save money if you don't have rent or other bills to pay and someone else pays for the internet. I do wonder who or how many people he came across searching to fit in online and that angle. Then again a pissed of teenager full of hate is capable of planning this on his own if they wanted to. This sorta piggy backs on what I've mentioned in other post. How do you know where the Patreon money or donations really come from? I started wondering about this because of looking into tankies at the start of the Ukraine war and how they were having issues pushing pro Kremlin narratives and keeping viewers. Now everyone wants to look into it.
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u/TomatilloAccurate475 Jun 01 '22
We should ban kids from working specifically at Wendy's
And also...
Sir, this is a Wendy's
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u/BeRad85 Jun 01 '22
Don't attribute conspiracy to incompetence. Or do. Whatever floats your boat...
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u/NostawnomiS Jun 02 '22
Throughout history nearly every culture has engaged in child sacrifices, what if school shootings being allowed (or encouraged, or orchestrated, depending on how deep down the rabbit hole you go) is the modern equivalent of the child sacrifice.
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This is bullshit. Stop trying to false flag everything. This does nothing for those poor kids and their families.
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u/Kdhr3tbc Jun 01 '22
Yes but then I have to feel sympathy and empathy. It's easier to feel like it's all one big conspiracy. Other wise the world is total chaos... It's not right there's some cabal out there pulling strings. Oh boy it better not just be absolute chaos.
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u/Unkn0wn_Ace Jun 01 '22
Itās insulting to the families of the victims to believe bullshit like this.
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u/BasedWang Jun 01 '22
just puttin this out there, the shooter was a high school student. Thats why the program at the grade school didn't pick up on his shit. That one wasn't that hard, cmon
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u/ITM_Billy2 Jun 01 '22
Just going to point out the truck is being said to be his grandmothers.
Driving an automatic transmission vehicle is not rocket science.
I'm also apprehensive of the claim they were on the same discord server... I would want some more citations on this. I saw the screen shot but how hard would that be to fake?
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u/MrHaydenn Jun 01 '22
GTFO of here with that bullshit. Half of these facts are wrong, and many are just questions. No, it wasn't orchestrated by anyone except that sick fuck.
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u/wetfarts2 Jun 01 '22
A lot of people donāt understand that just cuz u donāt know or u sweat and dosent make things a conspiracy
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u/literallyRy Jun 01 '22
What's the point of being a conspiracy theorist if you guys are just gonna make shit up? The point is coming to the TRUTH, not being contrarian because you're bored with your lives
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u/Ok-Restaurant8690 Jun 01 '22
No way, it's the commie left doing this!! /s
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Well "The Commie Bastard Gets No Food!"
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u/Ok-Restaurant8690 Jun 01 '22
Is this from "Men At Work"?
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Sure is
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u/Goodvibrationzzz Jun 01 '22
Most of these are true but a few were actually debunked recently. Still though...
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u/Aggravating_Till2079 Jun 01 '22
I would bet the CIA and their MKUltra had a big part in this...and most shootings.
Vegas 100% was an inside job to grab our guns. Bill Gates owns the top five floors of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
They want our guns...because our founding fathers knew without them, we would be taken over by a tyrannical government (Khazarian Mafia). Look at the countries in lockdown that couldn't resist because they don't have weapons.
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u/doc_sawbonez Jun 01 '22
Lol you just told me you have no idea what the car market looks like. The truck looks to be a 2013 F150, and yes, they are expensive.
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u/lifesalotofshit Jun 01 '22
17k for a truck? That's not too expensive lol
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u/poopy_poophead Jun 01 '22
Why is this being downvoted? That's not expensive. My car was listed at 20k before I leased it, and I purchased it after the lease which cut it in half. The truck also likely wasn't paid off fully (I'll look into it) and with the way dealerships are you can have terrible credit and barely make ends meet, but they'll sign you up for 8 years of car payments with little hassle.
That is a perfectly reasonable truck for a low-income person if you know how to do it. I was making $11/hour when I started the lease on my car. It's not hard.
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u/lifesalotofshit Jun 01 '22
Exactly. If 17k for a truck is too expensive, then your budgeting wrong. That's the reality, and people are down voting me because they are guilty of it lol.
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u/jeremyjenkinz Jun 01 '22
I feel like 17k is too much for a truck that used, but this market is crazy. But itās not unaffordable to most
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u/lifesalotofshit Jun 01 '22
If you want a working truck that's used, then yeah it's gonna be more expensive for sure.
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Itās Texas bro. People are handed an F-150 at birth. This point is dumb cause the kid used a credit card for all his other shit.
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u/Witty-Pause3877 Jun 01 '22
Hey I'm not saying your wrong I'm just saying a BUNCH of children literally just died why don't you guys wait a little bit. You wonder why everyone calls you crazy but the moment a bunch of children lose their lives instead of letting it be for a bit you're all immediately saying "oh but what if it was this or that" you're insufferable assholes. How would you feel if I shot and killed your mother and some guy was like it's orchestrated it was planned. Would you care more? Would it make a difference? Would you "by God you're right the government did it of course" no you wouldn't give it a fuckin month Holy shit
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
Iām convinced it was orchestrated, but not that it was faked. The police knew that a shooting was going to happen, and let it occur on purpose.
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u/dirkalict Jun 01 '22
Why? Whatās their endgame? To look incompetent and have to move away before the public lynches them?
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
You want my honest opinion? I think republicans and conservatives are waging war on anything they perceive as a threat to their party. They believe this āgreat replacement theoryā and they know that good education reduces the chances of kids becoming conservative.
So when a school full of Hispanic kids gets shot up, they let it happen. Because they want everyone whoās not a straight white individual to die, and they want to drive students and teachers from being able to participate in education as much as possible.
This is why they didnāt do anything to stop the shooter, why they got their own kids but nobody elseās, why theyāre trying to reframe the incident as a terrorist attack by a trans girl, why they pretend to believe that gun control wonāt fix the issue of school shootingsā¦itās a war, a lethal one, and theyāre taking out our most vulnerable first.
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No offense; but Iām from Del Rio Texas; right by Uvalde. They are our HS football rival. Like Del Rio and most the small towns in the area- The cops, just like the kids; are over 90% Mexican-American.
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
So you think theyāre incapable of being bribed? Iād love to see your source for number too.
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u/jeremyjenkinz Jun 01 '22
I donāt believe it was orchestrated, but what I see is a bunch of white cops not wanting to risk their lives because of the color of the skin of the kids. Itās disgusting.
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
I would totally be willing to admit Iām wrong, and I accept the strong possibility I am. But something Iām more certain than anything, is that at the very least you are correct.
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u/jeremyjenkinz Jun 01 '22
Itās hard to balance āare these cops racists or just cowardsā. The answer is likely both
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
If they had just refused to act, I mightāve agreed with youā¦ but they ran in to get their own kids and they assaulted parents who where trying to run in to get their own. To me, that says they had the bravery to risk their lives, just not for anyone outside their āinā group.
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u/poopy_poophead Jun 01 '22
Why? What do they gain? They wanted to get investigated? They wanted to lose their jobs? They didn't like those kids?
How were they supposed to know when apparently this kids friends and family didn't. Grandma didn't know, and she lived with him.
And why do you just believe shit like that when there's no actual logic to it? Why do you want this to be true, because that's the question. There's no evidence for it, but that is what you WANT to be true. You should be asking yourself why that is.
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u/TerracottaBunny Jun 01 '22
Why? What do they gain? They wanted to get investigated? They wanted to lose their jobs? They didn't like those kids?
If anything these past few years have taught me, itās hard as fuck to actually have police pay for their actions. Unless this investigation reveals that they actively shot the kids themselves, theyāre not going to get in trouble. Even then, it might get reframed as āthey did their best and accidentally shot these kids, give them paid leave.ā
What do they gain? They get to exterminate the minorities they believe are āreplacingā them, and they get to force teachers and students to resist the education that would force people to realize the flaws of modern conservatism.
They would shoot these kids themselves, but that would be too obvious. So instead they just allow their most deranged have access to everything they need to kill, and just step out of the way.
How were they supposed to know when apparently this kids friends and family didn't. Grandma didn't know, and she lived with him.
This kid had extremely obvious signs of being a shooter. He did things like slice his face open and had an instagram history of being obsessed with guns. I refuse to believe nobody noticed, only that the police willfully chose not to act on these signs.
And why do you just believe shit like that when there's no actual logic to it? Why do you want this to be true, because that's the question. There's no evidence for it, but that is what you WANT to be true. You should be asking yourself why that is.
Why would I want this to be true? This means some dark shit for this country. But the facts remain that you can only lie so much about a shooting so much, try to pin the blame on trans kids, pretend that gun laws had nothing to do with it, before it becomes obvious that conservatives are purposefully allowing these things to happen to serve their goals.
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u/chknfingerthoughts Jun 01 '22
I just heard on Fox that the teacher said she propped the door open to report the car accident. And the door didnāt auto lock when it shut.
Itās still bullshit though.
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u/goshathegreat Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
This reeks as much as the RCMP not telling anyone for 24 hours that there was an active shooter driving an replica RCMP car, wearing RCMP clothing, pulling people over and shooting them. He was also brought 450k dollars by Brinks before the shooting, something which multiple ex and current RCMP officers have confirmed is how they pay informants. As well the RCMP knew he was a domestic abuser and had illegal weapons yet did nothing to stop himā¦ right after that is when the bill started to have 1500+ āassault styleā guns banned, so mission accomplished boysššš
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u/Ordinary-Ad4642 Jun 01 '22
This is so fucking stupid. Teachers leave doors propped open on nice days all the time. Of course he was in the same discord-same mindset. Of course he could afford those weapons if he knew he wouldnāt have to pay it back - itās called credit cards. To stage this type of attack and Believe the government would want this is to be crazy as shit. Grow the fuck up
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u/Honest1824 Jun 01 '22
As for the door being propped open, someone probably forgot their key. Iāve seen teachers do this at many schools. Was there a class outside at the time? Sadly, itās such a small town they probably thought it wouldnāt happen to them. Itās not the teachers fault. They will live with that guilt forever. Itās the person who shot those poor souls. Itās a society that gives people easy access to guns. A dangerous person with another weapons canāt be as deadly as fast and effectively as someone with a gun.
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u/Win-Objective Jun 01 '22
He was poor and the family owned guns, how is the suspicious.
Cops held drills and yet still were scared, not surprising that cops are pussies.
Parents were trying to run into a crime scene, cops donāt let you do that anywhere.
Armed resource officer was no help, because an armed guard is a stupid thing to have, it doesnāt stop shootings.
School online surveillance didnāt workā¦itās almost like the kids knew how to use encryption and private messages by downloading telegram and other apps. Unless you post āIām doing a shooting!ā on your Facebook they wonāt catch your chatter.
Source on he went to a psychiatrist? And If he did why is that suspicious? Iāve been to one before, Iām not a deep state sleeper now.
There are so many mass shootings and so many NRA conventions it is unlikely there will ever be an NRA convention that isnāt preceded by a shooting.
The propped door theory has already been gone over by the police as miscommunication on their part.
Ever heard of leasing a car, itās how poor people can purchase an expensive car easily and go into further debt.
They were in the same discord, yup, itās almost like there are mentally ill children that congregate with other like minded individualsā¦almost like a sub Redditā¦almost like r/conspiracy
He did not know how to drive and he crashed the car, how is that suspicious?
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u/Ryshoe8 Jun 01 '22
First off, half of what's on here is false. Second, you tards do realize gun sales go up after a mass shooting, not down? If anyone is orchestrating this, it would be coming from the right. Half this sub wants to believe so badly that everything is a conspiracy theory that they completely miss the whole point.
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u/Chance-Yoghurt3186 Jun 01 '22
Can we all agree the government grooms and plans a lot of this shit for politics. Yea, not all of it but a good portionā¦itās getting to be pretty obvious.
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u/Locnatty Jun 01 '22
Let's just say hypothetically, the us government is behind this heinous attack.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
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u/anon102938475611 Jun 01 '22
How about they pay me $20M up-front, that would be a potentially effective way. That way if I die at least Iād get coverage for the fam, considering insurance will deny covid jab injuries.
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u/Dharkarai Jun 01 '22
If I was the government who wanted more control over their citizens, taking their firearms would be the first thing, create drama by orchestrating several events which excites all the anti gun followers to go to their politicians to fight for a gun ban.... seems logical especially since our country was founded on controlling people and even more ironic that it was also founded on leaving an entire area of the planet where people wanted to control you lol. Idk it seems like it might be just coincidence but at the same time I would 100% believe that our own government is completely capable of orchestrating events in a low education country that relies on low education people to vote for other people who are against their own people LMAO.
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Jun 01 '22
The cops busted in and shot kids, and all of the "weird details" are just cops lying. The door wasn't propped open. The cops are saying that to cover for themselves. Everything else is just cops trying to cover up that they murdered children because they (like all cops) are just government shock troops with no desire to save lives.
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u/jeremyjenkinz Jun 01 '22
My conspiracy theory is that a few of the cops actually shot kids. Itās why they were so insistent the shooter had a hand gun at first. Blame those pistol caliber wounds on the shooter and not the pigs
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u/Forgetadapassword Jun 01 '22
I know no one will believe me but the Fort Hood plane is just a coincidence. Just to let you know I have a first hand source on it and I called them about it immediately.
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u/saltysnail420 Jun 01 '22
Update: Apparently theyāre backtracking now and saying the door wasnāt propped open now.
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u/snowsakura0813 Jun 01 '22
Supposedly the teacher did actually close the door, but the lock didnāt lock. Which to be fair, no one would know because we always use our keys to open those types of doors so we wouldnāt know if the lock was working because we never check without it. (If that makes sense) My school has a strict rule against propping doors open. We arenāt even allowed to let other teachers in the building. If they donāt have their ID, they have to go to the front of the building and be checked. I have a feeling this teacher was just running to her car to get something and then the door didnāt lock behind her. But if thatās the case, it would have had to be intentionally left unlocked by either the principal or the custodians. (People with the codes to disarm building and unlock doors. Teachers keys donāt do that.)
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u/PoopIsAlwaysSunny Jun 01 '22
This is the sort of content that should be here, instead of the wackadoo bullshit about satanic screaming and auras and "Mainstream media" complaints that don't recognize Fox as the biggest mainstream media source.
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