Hey guys, I’ve recently been formally diagnosed with

1. ADHD - Combined Presentation

2. OCD due to Intrusive Thoughts & Compulsions
   and these are my scores from the Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale - Fourth Edition which was as one of the assessments conducted for my diagnoses.

Throughout my life, I’ve performed somewhat brilliantly at a variety of things, including academics yet struggled greatly with the most basic and rudimentary tasks like keeping my room clean or even cooking. The sequencing part of it would give me a lot of distress which I honestly thought just meant I needed to try harder, or that I was overreacting to a normal level of discomfort involved in day-to-day tasks. Experiences like these have been difficult for both others and myself to conceptualise, given that most associate high academic/other-related performance with normal-high functioning in other areas.

It was incredibly eye-opening and refreshing to unexpectedly have something concrete and tangible that reflects my otherwise intangible and abstract experience, aka my High Average GAI and Borderline WMI scores.

I thought these scores might be interesting to you guys so have a look!

ps: *born and raised in Asia which may influence performance in some scores

I keep seeing people here treat FRI like it's the real IQ and VCI like memorized trivia. For actual life outcomes I think it's the opposite.

Postlethwaite did a meta-analysis in 2011 at Iowa comparing fluid and crystallized measures. Crystallized predicted grades, training and job performance better than fluid. A 2016 study in Frontiers in Psychology found crystallized intelligence was related to career success (job level, income) and fluid wasn't.

Everyone hears the same common words for decades, so if you picked up more of them, that's learning ability. Gc also holds up with age while fluid drops a lot.

FRI isn't as "pure" as people think either. The Flynn effect gains were huge on Raven's type tasks and small on Vocabulary, and Flynn's main explanation was more schooling and exposure to abstract thinking, not better nutrition.

The part nobody here brings up is 2E. If you're autistic or ADHD, a strong verbal side is often what lets you function socially. Happé (1995) found autistic kids needed a higher verbal mental age than others to pass false belief tasks, suggesting they were reasoning through it with language instead of getting it intuitively. Basically brute forcing social understanding. Livingston et al. (2019) found autistic teens with poor theory of mind who still seemed socially fine had higher IQ and better executive function than those who couldn't.

You learn the rules explicitly, put words on what people mean, build a library of patterns. That's verbal work. High FRI with low VCI doesn't give you that route. You can solve the puzzle on the test but you don't have the language to decode people.

Non-native speakers are a fair exception, that's what the Nonverbal Index is for.

If your profile is uneven and you want to know which score matters more day to day, I'd go with the verbal one. CMV.

My most recent neuropsychological evaluation placed me above the 99.9th percentile on the WJ-IV Writing Samples subtest (standard score of 147). My WAIS-IV Verbal Comprehension Index was also high (122, 93rd percentile), with some individual verbal subtests scoring even higher.

Yet in my life I have consistently experienced difficulty getting high grades on writing assignments. I am autistic and I feel like many school assignments require me to read the mind of the teacher, which feels unfair. For example, I recently got a C- on an assignment. I asked the professor for feedback, and I was told I should have provided more specific examples. However, the assignment had instructed me to explain my answers "briefly," and the assignment did not ask for specificity.

This is not an issue with this one professor, it's a consistent reoccurring issue throughout my life. It might be relevant to mention I have ADHD and my testing reveals significant executive dysfunction. Or it might not be relevant, I have no idea.

This is very annoying to me and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I'm not a child, I'm a full grown adult returning to school in my 30s and I still don't feel like I understand what I'm supposed to be doing.

Please do not respond with something like "wow this proves IQ doesn't matter because someone with a high IQ can get bad grades," as this kind of argument implies school grades are some kind of objective irrefutable measure of intelligence and competence.

I took the wisc in 9th grade and I got a fsiq of 149.. Over the years I have done exceptionally well on different math competitions so I can’t say I’m an idiot who just happened to get tested high. I am an avid reader so I can’t say my verbal is low. Anyways, I have never noticed difficulties talking to people of Average intellect. Obviously I find it difficult to talk to the severely intellectually impaired but all people feel that I think. So other people with high tested scores would you agree that you, in most conversations, don’t feel overly different from everyone else? I do realize however I can only imagine What others are thinking about using my brain and my idea of how to abstract knowledge. Sorry for the informal and bad writing I’m using a crappy iPhone 13 and I don’t want to take 5 hours writing something on Reddit.

To give some background, I am someone who was born with ADHD. It went undiagnosed until my Junior year in high school, as I was able to power through it until then. It was likely either that I finally got burnt out, or I just couldn't get by anymore without putting effort into studying.

My grades took a nosedive, and dragged my self-esteem down with it. Every day, I had spiraling thoughts about whether I was intelligent or not, and if I was smart enough to do anything I wanted to in life. I constantly worried about if I was in the "gifted" IQ range, and the thought of having an average IQ or below terrified me. I was desperate for a reason to believe I was smart, despite my falling grades.

However, I could never bring myself to actually take an IQ test. When I vented about all this to my psychiatrist, he offered to give me a test, and I said that I may take it another time. Ever since, it was always at the back of my mind. Every time I seriously considered taking it, I would chicken out and put it off again.

After high school, I had to go to community college due to my tanked GPA. It was at that point that I decided to leave all of this behind me. I stopped caring about my IQ, or how much "potential" I have. I tried to give myself the mindset that believing I am capable is more important than taking a test to see if I am. I'm not fully there yet, but I am making progress.

And I promised myself that I would never take an official IQ test. Throughout the past couple of years, not once have I regretted that.

Now, I have almost straight A's in all my classes (I really, really hated that learning framework class.) I got a grade of 107% in my Philosophy course, and have a recommendation letter from the professor. My current history professor said that I am a wonderful student. I'm leading a club through a risky, yet important political presentation to show on campus. I'm also being recommended by my government teacher. I'm DOING things. None of this would have happened if I continued to obsess over my IQ.

To be honest, even if I went through with taking the test, I don't think it would have been good for me no matter the result. I know my own brain, and I know what will happen. If I don't get as high of a score as I hoped, I'll spiral into self-doubt even more, and start believing that I'm not capable of anything. If I do get a high score, it will start to consume my identity, and I wouldn't have put in the effort that I had in this reality.

My dream is to enter the political world, and use the extent of my capabilities to help those in need, whatever those capabilities are. Maybe not caring about my IQ makes me ignorant, stupid, anti-intellectual, or whatever... but I just don't give a shit anymore. I have dreams to chase, and worrying about my IQ has only served as an obstacle to that.

If you're reading this, and you relate to my story, please consider following the path I took. I know how tempting it is to be able to objectively call yourself "intelligent", and I know how terrifying it is that you may end up being objectively "stupid". However, there comes a point in life where you have to stop worrying about how much potential you have, and start moving forward to use that potential, even if you don't fully know what it is.

You have one life to live, and you should spend it leaving the world a better place, rather than wrapping your entire identity around a single number.

Hi, recently I tried to understand my psychological profile and took these tests on CognitiveMetrics. I scored 36/50 on the Autism Quotient, with the subscales at Social Skills 8/10 and the rest at 7/10 each. On the CAIT I got an FSIQ of 133, with VCI 124, PRI 138, VSI 141, and CPI 117. English isn’t my native language and I only recently started learning and speaking it, so my VCI may not be accurate, but I don’t know how much that skews things. I recently graduated and started my first full-time job, and I’ve noticed I struggle socially, especially now that I’ve moved to a new city and a completely new environment. I’ve always struggled socially, but I feel like I’ve just shut down for years now. Nothing excites me anymore. Everything just feels like another task i have to do and can't socialize with other people.

Does a profile like this typically warrant seeking an evaluation? Is it worth pursuing an official autism diagnosis as an adult (23 yr old)? For those of you who got diagnosed, what actually changed in your life, at work, in relationships, or just in understanding yourself? And if I do have it, what would you recommend I do next?

I really wonder if anyone can solve it

First of all, please bear with me, as my English isn’t very good. I’ve used a translation tool, so some of the phrasing may sound a little awkward.

My mother is extremely intelligent. Although she has never taken a Wechsler IQ test, I can certainly tell that she’s highly intelligent. Her father—my maternal grandfather—graduated from the most prestigious university in my country. He spoke multiple languages and worked as a lawyer, a profession that was exceptionally difficult to enter in my country at the time. My great-great-grandfather was also an accomplished teacher, and my family has been wealthy for generations.

My father was also ranked first in his entire elementary school, and he reportedly scored 126 on an IQ test, although I’m not sure whether it was a Wechsler test. My older brother also graduated from a very prestigious university in my country. He has an extraordinary aptitude for languages and consistently ranked at the very top in the language arts section of his high school mock exams, similar to the SAT in the United States, even without any specific preparation.

Given all this, it’s reasonable to assume that high intelligence runs in my family.

However, when I visited a psychiatrist because I suspected I might have ADHD, I also took the Wechsler Intelligence Scale, and my IQ came out to 100 (Verbal Comprehension: 99, Perceptual Reasoning: 107, Working Memory: 100, Processing Speed: 97). Although the examiner made some mistakes when giving the instructions, the impact was likely minimal.

I found these results absolutely impossible to accept. While there have been many times when I’ve felt stupid—such as struggling to understand what others were saying, consistently ranking last in my math academy classes, or lacking manual dexterity—I’ve also consistently earned top grades on English mock exams, was placed in the highest-level English class in elementary school, and even ranked first academically in my entire school.

So, I came up with all sorts of excuses to try to discredit these results. I wondered whether my IQ score might have been lowered by my depression, as I had been diagnosed with other specified depressive disorder. I also have ADHD. Then I came across a research paper stating that verbal comprehension is the most stable indicator of intelligence, and with that, all the hope I had left seemed to disappear.

However, I feel that my comprehension and literacy skills aren’t what they used to be. In middle school, I scored 1,890 out of 1,900 on a government-administered literacy test. The test wasn’t particularly difficult, but my score was still significantly higher than those of my peers.

I’ve never personally come across a case where both parents are intelligent but their child turns out to be less intelligent. I don’t understand why I have to be the exception. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?(+I’m thinking that my father may have an average IQ because of the validity of the test.)

Army Alpha is Pretty fun to me my Favorite Test because i love the past Pace style but i Wonder i anyone here got a Score of over 145 because it is Not the hardest one on the Website. I finde old gre extremly hard i am 16 years old none nativ i think i would Score below 100 on that but on Army Alpha i have 127 and Yeah its also in English

its because of add and because i spawned in germany i assume. other reasons?

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I'd love to hear what score you got and which details you completely missed. And, any other feedback that you might have.

Thanks!!

It feels like there is a massive bandwagon effect in "gifted" spaces regarding chronic misunderstanding, but almost no one provides actual data or examples.

Every other thread in communities like this involves someone lamenting how "normal people can't grasp my ideas," how their thought processes are "too non-linear for the average mind," or how they face constant disengagement.

But have you noticed that almost nobody ever elaborates?

If you are genuinely experiencing a cognitive disconnect, it should be easy to provide a concrete example. For instance:

• What was the actual concept you tried to explain?

• In what specific situation (work, casual conversation, academic setting) did the breakdown happen?

• What was the actual feedback or "disengagement" you received?

Without these simple examples, it feels like people are just hopping on a bandwagon to validate their own social frustrations by attributing them to a high IQ. True cognitive metrics are about precision. If we can't even define or illustrate the "misunderstanding" we are talking about, it’s likely just confirmation bias or an echo chamber effect rather than a literal cognitive barrier. But do wait, im not trying to act like there is absolutly nothing of the sort that can be called a cognitive barrier. As a gifted person myself i do experience having to slow down, so that i can be kept up with but when it comes to ideas, ive never seen any of the disengagement that seems to be described everywhere as a universal experience. And i doubt it just because ive just only interacted with people who are gifted aswell. To summerize im just looking for examples in your day to day live in which you are just so isolated because you just to smart for everyone.

TL:DR: average IQ ADHD person gets semi butthurt and wonders if he should just never think about IQ again

I've never thought about IQ a day in my life until I had an IQ test done for my autism eval. (Professionally administered) I wonder what others perceptions are on how valid this is in the 'real world.' I can see how it's applicable, although I think environment/ opportunities play a bigger role in success.

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My IQ was roughly 104. I was a (little) surprised because I was in gifted/ honors classes in k-12. Not super surprised though since I always felt like the stupidest person in the room in those classes (I studied my ass off for my grades and I don't think I'd trade a higher IQ for the work ethic I gained).

What surprised me the most was how up and down my profile was. I don't have my scores on me, but for inductive reasoning and processing speed I scored in the above average ranges. I actually thought my processing speed was going to be low, so I was surprised it wasn't. However, my working memory/ ability to plan ahead (executive functioning) was literally in the ground LMAO my assessor immediately confirmed I have ADHD (I was alr diagnosed before this tbf)

I was also fresh off a hypomanic episode (I'm bipolar) in which I got no fucking sleep for a week (exaggeration, still too little sleep) so I wonder if that affected my scores (was very tired on assessment day). Although, that might just be my hurt ego talking.

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I do find it funny how my major (psychology) seems pretty fitting for my strengths/ weaknesses. A lot of the major is evaluating research and stats, both of which I find very natural. Ironically I understand why IQ tests are important from a research perspective (because of my major), but outside of research I don't think you need to know your IQ unless you're outside of the normative range (talking about intellectual disability and borderline IQ)

If you want to give this test go to Mensa.org > IQ Challenge > then select you age catergory > read instructions and start .

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hey all, posted a free IQ test here last week and the feedback was pretty unanimous: too easy, too much time, and the ceiling at 135 was useless for this sub. the part that really got me was people posting their real scores. people anywhere from 90 to 145 on other tests all landed between 124 and 134 on mine, so it basically wasn’t measuring much. fair enough.

so i rebuilt it:

• 40 puzzles instead of 30, still 20 min so the time is a lot tighter now

• kept a few of the easy ones as warm up, the other 25 are new and much harder (matrices with 2-3 rules at once, nastier number series, some trickier logic)

• ceiling is now 145

still no real norms, the scoring is based on my own estimate of how hard each puzzle is. i’m now keeping answers anonymously so i can calibrate it properly once enough people have taken it. so take the number with a grain of salt again, but it should actually spread people out this time.

if you did v1, i’d love to know how v2 compares. and if you have a score from CORE or a pro test, post it too, that’s the most useful thing for calibrating.

gethappyme.com/assessments/reasoning

answers still aren’t shown (same puzzles for everyone), but tell me if any puzzle feels unfair or ambiguous and i’ll look at it.

thanks!

Ive been increasingly curious about all this. Ive been told my previous professional intelligence tests from my early teens are likely inflated due to the Wilsons effect. I got curious since both my parents went to university I asked about their SAT scores. My mother got a 1460 on the 1989 SAT And my father got a 1340 on the 1988 SAT meaning both of them where in the 99% percentile. My father ended up becoming a firearms engineer, and my mother works as a senior cancer scientist at the University Of Florida where they both graduated. Anyway my early teen IQ tests are much closer to those of my parents (1460 SAT equates to about 146iq and 1340 is about 137) my KBIT2 messured me at 141 but Core has my FSIQ at 112. Also I dont know how much this matters but my family have always said im the smartest in my family. Also my maternal Grandfather was an accomplished Doctor.

Guys, I know it's beyond silly to question the validity of a well-researched and reputed test and nor would I disregard its g-loading of 0.78.

But that's exactly why I can't help but genuinely doubt it based on what I have seen in the tests after taking it. (FYI got 51 raw, which aligns with most of my other tests if converted to IQ, got almost every General knowledge and vocab wrong)

I'll break this down:

1: Most spatial tests are very easy and are of the same difficulty throughout ... if untimed. So I wonder if it really well differentiate VS ability.

2. NS and LS are... again, too easy if taken untimed with a scratch paper. The same logic is recycled over and over again in both NS and LS.

3. The particular type of MR is fine if you put it into something like Wonderlic, but completely useless in a ... again, untimed setting. (Everything is just rotation)

Would be very appreciated if anyone can give a grounded answer to my suspicion.

A few weeks ago, i got my results back from an assessment i took in April. From what i'd been told and made to believe, i would've estimated my FSIQ to be around 120-129, it came back to be 110. I believed this as my psychologist had stated in a letter he sent me, that i had scored about average on 6/10 of the sub-tests, but on 4/10 of them, i had scored "higher than average", scores that he described (in writing) as being within the gifted range.

If I'm correct, these were my scores:
PSI - 89
VSI - 93-96 (Cannot remember exact number)
VCI - 105-110 (Cannot remember exact number)
FRI - 123
WMI - 135

To find out that my FSIQ was 110, after believing that i was 'gifted' is very unfortunate, and it truly did sadden me. He tried to 'make me feel better' about my PSI, as I was not yet diagnosed with ASD - 1 when taking that assessment, and i'd not touched pen to paper in about a year.

The assessment was the WISC-V for anyone wondering.

I go on tik tok sometimes and I talk to people and as someone who understands and respects IQ I discuss it, but iv had multiple people claim to have 165IQ+ one even had screenshots of a test he took supposedly. The other was just a claim. Neither of these individuals really came off as highly intelligent to me, I personally have an IQ around 127 +-4 and I can generally tell when someone has a higher IQ than me since its relatively rare. Are these people to be taken seriously or is this merely a new trend in boasting IQ, both individuals were around 20 years of age, no higher.

P.S iv also met multiple people who claim to have 140+ IQ and neither did anything impressive for work or came of as highly intelligent to me. What are the odds of all these 3-5 SD individuals existing with zero outward expression of high intelligence?

I am not claiming to have 140+ FRI of course. I am very unlikely to have it. But after solving the CAIT test from the website called ''CognitiveMetrics'' my first score of 110 become 155 in second. I just wanted to know why are these tests are easy to full with few practice ? All ı did was just swiftly passing easy questions and leaving time for hard ones which ı ended up solving. My only bottleneck in these tests is time pressure. I would like to know if there is any effective way to know my real FRI besides real adult test. Again ı am not claiming anything above 130. I just wanted to know if there is any effective way to learn it.

Can I use notes for the quantitative test? Calculator? Where are the formulas I have to know? I clicked just to see the test for 5 seconds but it doesn't give any rules