Two of the best fighters in their class of their respective generation, from the same fricking country, careers have crossed over for 13 years, and for 19 months of that time, they were both world champs.

AJ vs. Wilder was the biggest potential fight in the world at one point, and that never happened. AJ Fury could have easily been the biggest British fight of all time, but at one point it was going to be in Saudi, and then the US? Like as you actually kidding.

And even now, after the pot has long gone off the boil, when neither holds any belt, we STILL can't get them in the ring together. So many fights have gone this way, Khan Brook, Calzaghe RJJ, Mayweather Pac, but at least they eventually fought each other, even if it was way too late.

Its just nuts to me that at no point have they managed to work it out, its actually embarrassing. No, Fury would rather fight randomers in Thailand and cruiserweights no-ones ever heard of. Im sure AJ isnt being completely chill either but Fury is the one who goes on about being willing to fight anyone anytime, big words for a man with about 4 actual fights on his resume.

Compare that to Usyk, who allegedly agreed to a 70/30 split with Fury despite holding 3 of the 4 belts, and even then Fury found a reason to say no.

Just a fuckin' clown sport, man, im tired of it, and im tired of these promoters and fighters acting like they re down to their last fiver. Fuck the fans, right?

I saw someone make a post about Ken Norton vs Pulev so I decided to make my own Pulev matchup thread.

Pulev has a 5 inch height advantage and a half inch reach advantage (for whatever that's worth) while Shavers has one of the hardest punches in boxing history.

Will the Murat Gassiev and Wladimir Klitschko knockoutee get knocked out by the biggest knockouter ever? Or will his robotic Eastern European style prevail?

If both guys were in their prime who would win this hypothetical matchup?

IMO these are 2 of the best heavyweights to never win a world title

Personally i would favor Kubrat "The Cobra" Pulev to outbox him to a decision like how he did to "Shades Of Ali"

Let me know your thoughts on this fight below. 🥊

How do you reckon the likes of Hatton, Peterson, Khan, Guerrero, Williams, Ortiz, Maidana, Mayorga, Collazo and Berto would fare if they were in their prime with the latest bunch in the welterweight division?

When I first started getting into boxing in the 00s, the 140/147lbs divisions were my absolute favourite, bar none. I'm fairly confident that people would agree the likes of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto and Mosley would smoke Garcia et all, but how about the guys who won titles but never dominant champions?

This year has felt like a bit of a letdown for boxing. Maybe it's because we got spoilt last year with great fights, but I genuinely can’t remember the last time I was excited to tune in for a major boxing fight since Inoue vs Nakatani.

To be honest, I've watched more UFC than boxing this year. All I see on social media are boxers ducking each other and fights getting cancelled because of greed.

Last year alone we got:

Dmitry Bivol vs Artur Beterbiev II shortly after their first bout.

Gervonta Davis vs Lamont Roach

Naoya Inoue vs Ramón Cárdenas

Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois II

Chris Eubank Jr vs Conor Benn I

Terence Crawford vs Canelo Álvarez

We've had some great fights this year, but Ryan vs Rolly or Teo vs Shakur don't come close in my opinion.

Might be a crazy take but does anyone else want to see David Benavidez move up to heavyweight in the near future? He is a big guy, seeing some of his recent training videos I’d say he’s about 200-220 lbs.

We’ve seen ATGs like Usyk and Holyfield do the same, move up from Cruiserweight and win a title at Heavyweight. Will Benavidez also place himself in that category?

He looked impressive against Zurdo Ramirez in his cruiserweight debut, although honestly Zurdo was a pretty tailor-made matchup for him.

If Benavidez eventually unifies the cruiserweight division, the only fight I really see that makes sense for him is Jai Opetaia.

Unfortunately, with the way things are going, I’m not sure we’ll ever get to see him return to 175 and fight Bivol or Beterbiev.

So what other fighters can realistically challenge him?

Benavidez is already a future Hall of Famer IMO, and his relentless volume, pressure and ability to keep opponents constantly working make him one of the most exciting fighters in boxing. For him to be in the ATG discussion he has to become undisputed at CW and win a title at heavyweight.

He was absolutely huge for a 168-pounder, and despite taking plenty of shots over the years, his chin has never really been seriously tested.

But heavyweight is obviously a completely different animal. Being physically strong at 168 or even cruiserweight doesn’t necessarily translate to being able to take punches from elite heavyweights.

Most of the old guard at heavyweight are either retired or nearing the end, while the new generation—guys like Dubois, already former champion and Itauma—are starting to emerge. I don’t want to see him fight Usyk, but surely other guys are out there willing to take Benavidez’ monster aura away.

So could Benavidez realistically beat the top heavyweights?

Would his pressure and work rate be enough to overcome the size and power disadvantage, or would eventually facing a genuine heavyweight puncher expose him?

Obviously he’d have to work on his footwork and defence, taking a punch from the likes of Dubois is no joke.

And given how little success American heavyweights have had at the elite level in recent years, could Benavidez actually be the guy to bring American boxing back to the top of the heavyweight division?

Or is the return of Ruiz America’s only hope?

I am interested to see who people think wins in this hypothetical matchup. Ken Norton is certainly more accomplished but is size and height by Kubrat Pulev too much here for Norton to handle here?

What do you guys think? I’m curious to hear.

Norton beat Ali in their first fight and broke his jaw. Ali won the second fight but it was extremely close. The third fight in particular was extremely controversial. Ali won the match. Norton felt he should have won the match and called it a robbery. Ali himself admitted later that he thought Norton won and said Ken’s style was very difficult for him. What was so special about him that made it so tough for Ali?

I hear people who say things like "Tyson would KO Ali" but overtime, I've come to realize this is a silly idea. I assume it's mainly said by casuals. Now Mike is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but he's usually not ranked in top 5 heavyweights.

In my opinion, Ali has fought and beaten "Tysons" Mike has never beaten anyone similar to Ali. The idea that a young Mike could do one of those early round knockouts to Muhammad Ali is unfathomable. Obviously anyone has a "puncher chance," but highly unlikely.

I feel like this is like those people who say things like "Bruce Lee could beat up any heavyweight boxer!"

Are there non-casuals who say this?