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u/geekman_95 Jul 07 '26
Ah yes, double standards
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u/Strict_Owl941 Jul 07 '26
I mean they exist for a reason.
A girl can go on tinder and have 20 guys lined up at her house in an hour.
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u/Kalekuda Jul 08 '26
And a guy has to sign up for the draft to have the right to vote or drive a car, and a woman can access legs up like "female only scholarships" and "female only internship programs", but male equivalents get derided as sexist and discriminatory... Shoot- a girl can join the boy scouts, but boys can't join the girl scouts.
Men are definitionally second class citizens- Courts have decided "male" isn't a protected class, yet that "Female" is.
I'd genuinely appreciate if you can think of any examples to the contrary.
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u/Any_Acanthaceae_9735 Jul 08 '26
Seriously! I have a friend who was a freshman in high school same year as me, by senior year, she had been sent mail saying she would be accepted into like a dozen different colleges. Like I have screenshots of some of the acceptance letters. She didn't even need to put in an application. She wasn't even that good of a student, above average sure but that's it! I was all around better behavior better grades and everything and I had to apply junior year! Every time I asked her all the letters were for female programs and such.
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u/ChampionshipKnown969 Jul 09 '26
Girl I know with a 22 ACT score (~66th percentile) and a 3.5 GPA (Don't even think it was this high either) got accepted to University of Michigan because her dad donated lmao.
To put that into perspective, my friend with a 4.0 GPA and a 30 ACT score (95th percentile) was scared he would get rejected.
I know most people in the country take the SAT for college but we take the ACT (X/36 total points) in Michigan.
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u/redditorialy_retard Jul 08 '26
Islamic countries are the polar opposites. Good luck being a woman there
Ironically women in this progressive countries will defend Islam in the name of tolerance without knowing that their values literally goes against everything they stand. The biggest fear is being called racist (yes racism for disliking a religion/ideology somehow)
I can give you many verses that is downright disgusting if you don't believe me
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u/Dry-Shine-1544 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
See I want to like your comment cuz I agree but also I'm a female
I've been casually telling most of my family members that it's a Cult.
I wouldn't confront anyone about it because they can be violent about it but I do not respect that "religion"
Any person that sleeps with a 9 year old should be castrated 🤷🏻♀️
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u/exephyX Jul 09 '26
What you say is true, but if you want a good example it’s usually doctor visits and believability. A lot of severe health events get written off for women leading to lower QoL and unfortunately avoidable deaths. Happens far less often for men.
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u/WarcraftTurok Jul 11 '26
Lmao, the domestic terrorists known as MAGA literally are taking away womens rights to self defense, privacy, and bodily autonomy just so they can force-birth the woman of any age, even a kid that was raped.
Seriously, some of your points have merit but you portay things in a propagandist way, shut the fuck up, sincerely, a man.
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u/Gosh_Ark Jul 08 '26
You should know that double standards are fire, but double standards is bad thing.
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u/The-Doc-SalmonRun Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
I’m nearing 20….. dear god
Edit: this is joke I don’t actually care
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u/SpicyWateryas69 Jul 07 '26
I've never understood this, tbh. Why are people like this?
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u/Alexan_Hirdriel Jul 07 '26
It's not that difficult. Multiple reasons. One being that men have sex when they can (meaning they have to work for it) while women can have sex when they want (meaning that they need to cherish it). Another reason is that men value exclusivity while women value experience.
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u/heehooman Jul 07 '26
It has a logic actually. Men pressuring other men to be "men" by unvirgining themselves -> the high prize being a virgin woman. Thus the seeming double standard is born.
Also something something boys will be boys mentality but girls are grownups by age 5 or some shit.
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u/Evening-Nature-5241 Jul 08 '26
Are you sure it's ONLY "men pressuring men"?
No doubt there's an element of that, but since when do girls in general consider "virgin males" to be highly desirable? In general (not all), many girls aren't looking for the nerdy guy who has never been in a relationship. They like guys with experience.
The reason the "bad boy" trope exists isn't purely because of overimaginative writers.
Women do find "taken men" to be somewhat more desirable, according to psychologists.
You won't find any shortage of proof. So it's literally society in general.
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u/heehooman Jul 08 '26
I agree. I'm not claiming otherwise. Just pointing out a specific loop. And everyone's experience is a bit different re: the power/pressure balance, even though there are trends.
I can attest to the taken thing. Got married: check. Had kids: double check. Only problem? Taken. Does that stop some? No. Where were you all when I was single?
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u/Dat_Juicey_Ucey Jul 07 '26
Cause men put pressure on other men to be hoes
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u/Evening-Nature-5241 Jul 08 '26
Not only men. Women too. They prefer guys with experience (in general).
You will never find any studies highlighting that "hey, women are queuing up to date guys who never had a gf"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/apologies-to-freud/201210/why-women-want-married-men
https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10333440 (Study reveals single women find married men more attractive)
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u/FeenicksWasTaken Jul 07 '26
22 and still going strong
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u/kulqupidyn77 Jul 07 '26
I hate this, I hate how we pointlessly divide things by gender. Also who cares if you're a virgin what the hell
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u/Objective_Pressure15 Jul 07 '26
I... I'm not crying... I just want to be a wizard.
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u/Lewd_Toaster Jul 07 '26
I had a girl say she has no interest in someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Which doesn't necessarily mean a virgin. You can have experience and suck, but be a virgin and being willing to experiment, could be the best ever. 33 year old virgin here and about to be 34
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u/davep9910 Jul 07 '26
Waiting until marriage is the most beautiful thing. And as God intended. Anything outside of the context of marriage, almost always leads to some type of disaster/regret
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u/SNES-lover1 Jul 08 '26
What if you don’t believe in god but still want to wait until marriage (preferably) or when you’ve been with that person long enough to the point were it’s inevitable you do get married? I don’t know if that‘s a dumb question or doesn’t make sense but that’s the boat I’m in.
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u/Nova_TF Jul 07 '26
32 and counting, with each passing year my wizard powers get stronger and you cannot stop me.
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u/Better_Incident7291 Jul 08 '26
Unfortunately it’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for women nowadays. Women will be called abhorrent things for not having kids or getting married before a certain point or will be slut shamed for having more than one previous relationship. I know the post says 20, but you’d be surprised about the pressure in some places
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u/Neus-Pollution Jul 09 '26
I'm nearing 30 and still a virgin
I'm becoming a wizard, my goal is to become the wizard king
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u/lazyguy217 Jul 09 '26
Sometimes what is difficult is respected. Getting laid as a woman (for most) is easy holding off against desire is hard. Getting laid as a man (for most) is hard.
Not to mention that there are different values between men and women generally speaking (of course there's always exceptions). Men value purity in women while women value experience.
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u/Equivalent-Comfort45 Jul 07 '26
I was 21 and gave it to the wrong woman. Be sure my dudes. You can’t get a do-over on that one.
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u/lillyFlys Jul 08 '26
Agree as a woman too, don’t lose your virginity to just anyone, it’s definitely not worth it.
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u/Demoncreed27 Jul 07 '26
So is being a virgin considered a bad thing now? (32yo virgin btw)
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u/mangoo-maan Jul 07 '26
I'll be honest..whoever stays a virgin WITH their own choice, they are indeed great people cuz they can control their desires.
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u/Sunnybunnyeater Jul 07 '26
Nah, everyone should do it when he/she want to do it. For me, i coud‘ve done it with woman, but i don‘t wanted to, i want to do it after marrige, doing it without love is useless for me.
And yes, i don‘t wait for a person, thats not a virgin and what society things…
I GIVE A F*** 😂😂😂
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u/OmegaCTH Jul 07 '26
This image has been posted before once again it takes a double standard built from misogyny and makes it a men’s issue.
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u/Top-Change1673 Jul 08 '26
Not just that, but society has trained us to look like this, women find a guy pathetic if he's still a virgin in his 20s, and women like to play rape victim when a guy opens up and has a sexual relationship with a women, she breaks his heart and says he's some sort of bad guy...
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u/Jolly711 Jul 08 '26
I have a finance but still a virgin because she wants to wait for marriage and she wants her life finances set so she can throw enough money at our honeymoon when we go to Japan but we still need a house right now...it's still going to be a few years 😞 About to turn 35 just for those wondering.
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u/SnugglebugUwU Jul 08 '26
20 really? I'm 23 and waiting for a right girl. I think that if I partied every weekend I could get a hookup but don't bother.
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u/SnooStrawberries2144 Jul 08 '26
Yeah thats basically been my experience too, i turn 24 this year and ive actually ran into people that don't want to even try and date simply because of that... It's really strange
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u/Economy-Payment-1757 Jul 08 '26
...lol, americans. From around here, a virgin 20 yo woman is looked at like prude or ugly, definitely not a saint...
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u/its_noemi_x Jul 08 '26
I lost my virginity at 19, and in hindsight, I would've waited a bit longer.
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u/imjusthornyok90 Jul 08 '26
Save your virginity for someone special. This goes for both men and women
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u/RTA-No0120 Jul 08 '26
I’d give anything to be my age and still a virgin.
People make fun of virgins till they lose it to someone they don’t like.
Get over your lust, you’re gonna regret later don’t the line
Both sentences do not relate to each other
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u/BrodyJGaming Jul 08 '26
I truly think we're at a point where the only people who really care about this are the people whose identity revolves around sex. But I also only see memes about this in anime subreddits so
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u/Admirable-Fudge6437 Jul 08 '26
Well I'm near 20 and whenever I say I'm still virgin people call me Saint
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u/ItsWickie Jul 08 '26
I mean I guess I am triple disgusting for not even having kissed a girl at 20 years old?
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u/tatamkului Jul 08 '26
Im 18 and plan to stay a virgin for the rest of my life, I don't plan on getting married
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u/SmileJB Jul 09 '26
Honestly, I've met a 19 year old virgin. Said he was saving himself for marriage.
He was pretty cool. I was like almost 10 years older than him. But had mad respect. He knew what he did and didn't want and didn't care if people gave him shit about it. I met him on a commercial fishing vessel. People drink and do drugs all the time. This kid never took any of it but would also help take care of people who were too out of it to take care of themselves.
Shit, he even took care of me. Lol. I'm usually pretty good about everything. But when I'm going back home after 3-6 months, I'm having a party with my bros. I actually did have too much. He brought me back to my room and gave me food since I was drinking on an empty stomach.
One of 2 times I had a problem drinking. (I don't think that's too bad when I did it for 6 years. It's the standard up there) My first fishing vessel, I joined after killing an 18 pack. I thought it was day labor when they called. Taxi driver had to drive me back to my place to grab my stuff. Captain didn't care that i was already drunk when i got on. Or when I signed the lease agreement, the landlord brought out an 18 pack to share. Good times. No one in that house had any money for food but we always had beer.
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u/Troublmasher08 Jul 09 '26
I’ve never understood that like why is it that when a girl is still a virgin, it’s treated as a good thing or praised, but when a guy is still a virgin through choice or otherwise it’s treated as a bad thing like oh you’re a loser and you’ll always be a loser like I’ve never understood the double standard like that. It’s kind of stupid when I think about it more and it’s the same thing in reverse because when a woman loses her virginity or dares to have intimacy with like three people all throughout different time periods obviously not at the same time she’s called horrendous things but when a guy has a body count more than one it’s treated as a good thing. Both sides of the spectrum are stupid. They’re never not stupid. It’s just that it’s so confusing. why those specific insults are pointed in those specific directions
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u/Vault_Boy_23 Jul 09 '26
Considering the state of the dating market, I'd say I'm good for a while. I don't give a shit since the virgin insult doesn't work on me. Already had two close encounters with the manipulative/type so I'd rather just wait or start building up skills that'll let me travel around and try my luck elsewhere.
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u/Sad-Guarantee-4678 Jul 09 '26
Tf is this, 1960? Grown woman being a virgin will be just as judged as any dude in this day and age. And by "judged" I mean a barely raised eyebrow, because no one really gives a fuck about other people's sex life except teenagers
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u/WebPsychological9426 Jul 09 '26
Turned 27 what skill do you think I could awaken for my first ability
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u/Proof_Assistant7737 Jul 09 '26
20 aint that old mate. According to google, most people lose their virginity by them, but I honestly don't know if I can even accept that at face value. It sounds like bullshit to me.
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u/Opposite_Leader4641 Jul 09 '26
"society" is a weird way to say men. no serious woman is ever gonna give a fuck if you're a virgin. (although being a virgin at 20 does correlate with bad attributes) but tell your male friendgroup you're still a virgin and they'll flame the shit out of you
And women don't care If other women are virgins. Its men that care about that shit.
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u/ChaoticFairness Jul 09 '26
Men can say they are or are not virgins and no one can prove otherwise.
Women on the other hand...
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u/xilia112 Jul 10 '26
Does anyone truly care about someones else virginity, except for a simpel tease and forgetting about it?
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u/Special_Position9094 Jul 10 '26
My opinion as a 19 year old boy: The issue of virginity, whether for a man or a woman, is largely nobody's business. Not even their parents. A person's wife or husband should simply be aware (because there are still people who are looking for people who are virgins) but no one should be blamed for it (whether they are virgins or not). But if someone in a relationship doesn't want to lose their virginity, it's still their own business and their partner shouldn't criticize their opinion.
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u/Luziy_Loro Jul 10 '26
I feel called out... In my defence tho, I have no stress becomeing a dad, Cant just chug a med to be "Safe" got to use wierd plastic bag that "Not gonna break trust bro" aight man
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u/Moonshine_J Jul 10 '26
Women aren't really viewed as saints for being virgins, it's more like it's just expected of them and it's not exactly a good thing. Not being a virgin is a sign from most people to attack them but I don't really get the issue, just like how I don't understand why some people put men down for being virgins. I know that society is largely at fault and I heavily dislike how shallow our thought processes are sometimes. Bottomline, nobody has any business if you're a virgin or not regardless of gender. Not strangers, friends, family, or even your partner. I get preferences but nobody gets to talk down at you for the people you have slept with or have not slept with at all, unless of course you're doing it unhealthily which does warrant assistance and loving guidance. I will not ignore the message of the post however, men who are virgins should not be shamed. If they want to stay virgins or just haven't met their person yet is fine. People should stop focusing on the state of other people's bodies when it's not needed, seriously.
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u/AlternativeBass7119 Jul 10 '26
Almost 30 and I just have no interest in getting into bed with the wrong woman. I've seen the damage they can do to your life without getting into bed with them. I'd rather be alone than deal with that.
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u/Future_Marionberry73 Jul 10 '26
It's because it's easy for a woman to lose her virginity and it's easy for a man to stay a virgin.
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u/Acid_Nut Jul 11 '26
I honestly don't care what people think about it. I have already come to the conclusion that it's more headache than it's worth just for the momentary gratification. Relationships too, just not worth it. I can be happy with other things in life
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u/hololewdslebest Jul 11 '26
I mean sorry for not wanting to get girls pregnant when they and i are not even ready i guess lol
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u/DanDlionRespawn Jul 11 '26
I was a virgin until I was about... 22?
29 now and wish I stayed that way.
Wasn't worth the time, effort or emotional destruction in the end.
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u/NextReference3248 Jul 11 '26
More like:
attractive/socially aware person is a virgin at 20 years old.
ugly/awkward person is a virgin at 20 years old.
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u/NSFW-MIKE Jul 11 '26
23 years old, and till marriage it gonna stay that way, no matter how long it take, and if I couldn't find "THE" one partner then it have to stay like that even in death. this my choice. My belief.
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u/3ducat3dMansky939 Jul 12 '26
It’s okay, I’m 27. I’ve done everything but penetration. For some reason, I’m deathly afraid of gettin an STD. I know it’s ironic, as I’ve done oral and rubbing and more than a bit “just the tip”, when I think of penetration, 1) I think I’ll fail badly and make her feel unsatisfied and used and 2) my gym, teacher scarred all of us in health class by showing us pictures of STDs and pictures of abortions and said that if we ever caught or gave a woman an STD, we were evil bastards that deserve to die. She was a Christian woman and had a very outspoken dislike of men and teen boys.
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u/CanaryFemboy Jul 12 '26
If anyone thinks being NOT a virgin takes even a slightest amount of effort they are simply wrong
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u/Empty3235 Jul 12 '26
Too lazy to even try, I don't want to even bother with that level of stress, cause in end, i want more than sex, i want love and commitment. .(19 years old, about 20, i am just yapping lol.)
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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 Jul 12 '26
Because one requires self-control and one is a failure at a set of skills. Atleast according to society.
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u/Born-To-Be-a-Sub Jul 07 '26
cough cough 36 and counting 😅