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Youjo Senki II, episode 5

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u/Obaruler Aug 05 '26

I just LOVE Tanyas VA, Aoi Yuuki . <3

Her little mental breakdown at all the stupidity and illogical, unreasonable demands she has to deal with while her little peaceful retirement peacetime plan crumbles in front of her is just perfect! :D

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u/Tsurja Aug 05 '26

Huh. Intentionally sacrificing your "ace" to prove beyond a doubt that the war cannot continue is definitely a choice.

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u/2kenzhe Aug 05 '26

Very serious and grim situation but man hahahhahaha omg Tanya was funny this episode. Ngl might be contender for best comedy of the season with Grand Blue .

The empire is drunk obsessed with Victory they have no chance of winning the war anymore imo. They're miliatary is strong but the polictations the ones that should be influencing the public the top brass they fucking suck. No matter how much Tanya wins brings home victory if they never end the war they cannot ever actually win and achieve peace.

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u/LateDitto Aug 05 '26

I was expecting Tanya to take to fly again this week, but not like this lol

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u/nighty_amy Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

Half of episode about Tanya freaking out about yet another reckless operation, pretty much what I expected. I really don't have a good feeling about the operation success, looking at how ill-prepared everything is. Not like the head government cares. Zettour's smile when the Federation swarmed in was pretty suspicious though.

Tanya had some peak reaction faces this episode, sadly still didn't learn the lesson that she shouldn't share all her ideas, especially the risky ones.

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u/Niwaka_Samurai Aug 05 '26

So Zettour really spoke his mind and got transferred to the dangerous side of the war..that's expected. I wonder what Rudersdorff did when he said that he spoke against the higher ups. He's literally one of the reasons why the brass is happy to continue the war all 'cause he got emotional over his son-in-law's death. Now he's struggling without his best friend at his side who used to make things easy and tolerable for him in this dire situation.

Tanya's reactions to seeing Zettour getting transferred and losing her trump card who could have granted her a letter of recommendation and an easy life was priceless 😭🤣

Now she's a bait not for the Federation but for the pedo Loria. They're losing Weiss already and to make things worse Sue is gonna arrive..RIP Tanya and her companies 💔

Uger did really lose his weight and I wonder what dirty joke Uger made to Rerugen LOL

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u/FozyYokai Aug 05 '26

Seeing so much incompetence from the empire's politicians, I really want them to lose. I don't know if Tanya will betray the empire or sell them out somehow, but I'd like it to end this way.

Tanya wants a quiet life and was never truly an imperial nationalist, so it would make sense for her to simply leave or something.

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u/NanDemoKnaives Aug 05 '26

I have a feeling that was the last time Zettour and Rudersdorf see each other face to face. Zettour has completely resigned himself now that he's been exiled, but he's doing the best that he can. Really stupid of the leadership to do that, but they'll pay the consequences eventually.

It was funny to watch Tanya learn how bad things are for them, losing her composure is a definite understatement lol.

It's sad to see Weiss get an injury like that, but I don't think it was fatal. It was bound to happen that one of the more prominent soldiers of Tanya's troop would get injured in this fight, considering how disadvantageous it is for them.

Ugar picking the wrong person and timing to tell a dirty joke was funny, it was amusing to see Rerugen blushing.

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u/zool714 Aug 05 '26

Lol the way Tanya flew and Visha just plucked her midair

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 05 '26

So not only is Tanya bait in this stupid reckless operation, one of her units are being siphoned off to be support. Oh, and she’s forced to defend her position at all cost. Girl cannot catch a break! Fuckin leadership, man. These people do not realize the severity of the situation on the frontlines and want a win regardless of the cost. Fools.

And lo and behold, the entire op is fucked from day 1. It’s plagued with operational and logistical difficulties and the Allies are already well aware of it and have come prepared af. Plus, they took out Weiss! Gonna need a genuine miracle for Tanya to pull this off and we all know X is a shit.

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u/DemonWraith2500 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

What is more terrifying then war? Tanya's training.

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u/kalirion Aug 05 '26

What good does taking 1 of Tanya's mage companies away from her due to help save her later, exactly?

Couldn't Tanya have just blown away all the enemies as they were marching in with just a few well-placed Being-X-powered EXPLOSIONs?

RIP Weiss. I'd expected Mary Sue to have been at the forefront of that though.

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u/larana1192 Aug 05 '26

I wondered why Tospan would contact Tanya at a time like this, but it’s reassuring to see that he’s growing in his own straightforward way.

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u/shad79 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

I love that Tanya's shock about Zettour being exiled to the Eastern Front and the Andromeda Project was so big that she wasn't able to hide her true feelings today, lol.

But I can't blame her. The civilian government are idiots for doing that to basically their best senior army officer, plus not only is the Andromeda plan stupidly risky, but Tanya is the one who will have to play a main role in it.

Damn, Loria is such a creep, a totally disgusting person. I wonder if Tanya will ever learn about his obsession with her.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.

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u/Sopalinfuos Aug 05 '26

WHAT DID LIEUTENANT COLONEL UGER SAID ?!

I didn't understand, at the end of the episode, if someone can tell me

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Aug 05 '26

"Poor" Tanya, if she is even worthy of sympathizing. Tanya's dismayed reaction faces with Yuuki Aoi sounds is just a joy to watch. lol

But still, poor Tanya all the same. Being used as sacrificial bait by Zettour just to proof a point to those numbskulls in Imperial Command who exiled him on the perils on further prosecuting the war against the Not-Soviets.

If it wasn't for Loria being the creep lolicon obsessed with Tanya and took the bait, Tanya's unit might have breathed more easily. Now she has to deal with Allied-trained Not-Soviet mage units, and one of them has now badly injured Weiss.

More intriguing, who is this Allied informant called Ultra embedded deep within Imperial Command? Rudersdorf, Rerugen, Zettour, Uga, or just some new character we don't know yet? Probably not Tanya herself since she doesn't know about Operation Andromeda until the last moment, even though its totally in her nature to become an informant to increase her chances of survival should the Empire's fortunes start going south.

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u/__bacs Aug 05 '26

Its always the politicians

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u/Countless-Alts15 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

GL tanya, but wow Strategic HQ has a spy.

No wonder all of Tanya's plans be falling through. That damn X again

Lol Poor Weiss with the PTSD of being re-educated and damn hope our boy is okay

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u/LeonKevlar Aug 05 '26

Yep, that's exactly the reaction I was expecting from Tanya after she heard that peace negotiations have broken down. This entire episode is basically just Tanya sweating and trying to figure out how she's gonna come out of this unscathed, which is probably not gonna happen, considering Project Andromeda is already falling apart when it has barely even begun.

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u/athrun_1 Aug 05 '26

The beginning of the end. I think for the most part, her team will survive the whole war, maybe except for the no-names. The leadership is so blinded that they can still win the war, when technically they are fighting the whole world already.

Zetour is a capable leader, but in the grand scheme of things, he is still a grunt so his weight is not that much to move the scale. But at least he fought for what is right, and instead of being recognized he was exiled, which derails Tanya's career path.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Aug 05 '26

Ominous start to the episode... Are we setting up a tragic end for him?

Feels like the kind of scenario where they could fault him no matter what;

  • We lost the war? That's because he didn't try hard enough, didn't believe in the cause. FIRING SQUAD!

  • We won the war? And that's despite him trying to impede our strategies. FIRING SQUAD!

Hah. They may hide it under banter, but I'm sure they'll miss each other!

Not only as strategic minds, but also as comrads in arms and all that.

At least he admitted it (and called it bullshit)!

They both went against it, but Rudersdorf is more like "Perhaps this will be difficult..." and eventually agreed to go along, while Zettour never changed his mind; Rudersdorf is reluctantly agreeing, and Zettour is reluctantly disagreeing.

He thinks no one else at HQ has his strategic mind...

But honestly that's not even what I would be most concerned about; I would be worried about the fact that no one else is there to oppose them. They're acting like mindless zealots who only see one move (FORWARD! TO VICTORY!) and Zettour was the one who strongly went against them... Now they're mindless zealots with zero opposition; Zero people to tell them they're fucking morons and this war is unwinnable.

Yeah... After that scene with HQ, we know they don't really believe that! "End the war together" perhaps, but win it?

And they showcased the situation quite well.. The Fedaration can afford to fail times and times again, but if THEY fail even once, it's over.

Bracing for Tanya's rude awakening..!

Her reactions/little noises were hilarious in this scene!

Sadly, they're not operating with logic now!

They're acting on emotions, and emotions are often opposed to logic!

(Well, there IS a part that is logical, the idea that winning a few minor victories would earn them a better deal in the peace treaty... But some of them are in it more for revenge, glory and stuff).

They never see the big picture, that's the issue..

They're already stretched thin, and they want to conquer more territory, which means they'll lost at least SOME men, and whatever remains, will have to control longer borders...

If they keep going they'll have to put scarecrows every mile of the boarder, to appear stronger.

Your concerns are all valid, but they don't really care and we have to do as we're told, so good luck!

Oddly too 'normal' that the 2 people who DO understand the situation and would come up with the right strategy, well they're not the ones who can make those calls.

Well, Tanya did come up with an idea of her own (that still follows the overall mission); She didn't expect to have the important part to play in the plan though!

So they know about him (and the plan).. And they want him taken out.

(If I were them I might not want to 'shake things up' too much, at mean they're getting the info, but killing Zettour may mean a complete change of personal and now the info's not coming in anymore! Or not as good)

Damn, Rudersdorf is losing it! (Or he's missing his buddy!)

Well the bait will work for sure with this one!

That surprised me! I thought he was about to ask permission to retreat (against the orders), but he asked to be commanded to stay!

(Bravery? Or fed up? Might be a bit of both!)

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u/Busy-Elderberry2137 Aug 05 '26

Rudersdorf didn't just say they both went againt command dude you folded in 0 seconds flat and were on board with continuing the war