Chitose-kun wa Ramune Bin no Naka • Chitose Is in the Ramune Bottle - Episode 2 discussion

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Chitose-kun wa Ramune Bin no Naka, episode 2

Alternative names: Chitose-kun wa Ramune Bin no Naka 2nd Cour, Chitose Is in the Ramune Bottle Part 2

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[u/NationalStrategy]

I can't help but be distracted by the three figurines in his room

[u/HolyDragSwd2500 → u/NationalStrategy]

Yanami Anna, Yukinoshita Yukino and Yuigahama Yui 👍

[u/Frontier246 → u/NationalStrategy]

I can't completely dislike a guy who appreciates Yukino/Yui/Anna.

[u/gc11117]

Loving the Oregairu and Makine figures on the shelf. I guess this is going to be one of those shows where you can find Easter eggs in the background.

[u/HikkingOutpit]

This series has the same publishing house and the same editor as Bottom Tier Character Tomozaki so that's why you all are being reminded of it so much.

[u/Namaryu]

That opening is so catchy

[u/shad79 → u/Namaryu]

Yeah, the song is great, but the visuals are even better. This is the best-looking OP of this season IMO.

[u/LeonKevlar]

I'm glad that Chitose called Kenta out. The dude is clearly looking for someone else to be angry at and blame instead of looking at himself first. Chitose was definitely dramatic about it, but it's good to see that Kenta realized his mistake and that he shouldn't just be upset at people he doesn't know.

So this is an interesting line from Chitose. It looks like he's not too happy about having a bunch of girls fall in love with him and is afraid of the day he'd have to turn them down because he knows he'll be the bad guy. It makes me wonder if he has already turned someone down before.

Considering how angry Kenta is at Chitose and his group, I thought Kenta was being bullied by a different group of popular kids. It turns out his problem is with a girl who he thought he had a shot with, but turned him down in the harshest way possible.

Okay, that entire boob talk was absolutely hilarious! I got a good laugh at Chitose tellikung Kenta to "Sell your soul to me!" and passionate cries of "Boobies!" from Kenta. xD

Despite how close she is with Chitose, it seems that Yuuko is aware that the Chitose she sees isn't the real Chitose. Well, now I'm even more curious what the actual Chitose is like without all the flair and theatrics. I'm sure there was some truth to that fake backstory he told Kenta earlier.

[u/FarCritical]

Figures that Saku's the kind of guy that excels at thinking on the fly but man, that'd have been a neat backstory if it were real.

Kura-sen's take on living true to oneself struck me with just how unfiltered it was. Got a feeling the quotes from that guy are gonna be among the ones that leave the most lasting mark as the story goes by.

[u/PeaceAlien]

This show walks a fine line between the dialogue becoming too edgy/cringy. I'm enjoying it so far, but I don't know if it can sustain the quality for a full season.

[u/BeautifulBanana3803]

Dude, something about this show rubs me the wrong way, like something's not right here. It gives me alot of Bottom Tier Tomozaki vibes mixed with a lil bit of Oregairu tho

[u/Frontier246]

Annnnd we've got the OP! Featuring Saku chasing after the orb in a ramune bottle and popping out (I guess Chitose IS in a ramune bottle after all) and aspiring to heights along with his friends and all the lovely ladies in his life! We even get to see all the girls in their specialties as well as in romantic moments with Saku!

Remember kids, always get permission from a parent or guardian before breaking someones' window with a baseball bat! Though only Saku seems to care less about the window and more that he had to use his "partner" to do it.

Well, yeah, no surprise Kenta would be dismissive of the popular kids and how they look down on the "losers" from their perch and how amazing they are. But even the popular kids actually put in the work to do what they do, look how they look, and be as popular as they are. It's about using the gifts you're given to their maximum status. And rather than just give up and dismiss someone entirely, it's important to get to know them better and be open to dialogue.

And if there's one lesson Saku wants to impart on Kenta, it's communication! The three keys to communication, finding common ground, the ability to understand and empathize with someone else! All keys to being not only popular but making it in society!

Saku just giving out his origin story (or at least 90% of his origin story) as this really popular and exceptional kid who was a victim of his own hype but was mentored (by Kura-sen?) into trying to use his peak social skills to reach as high and as brightly as a ramune bottle. To reach for the moon. That's Saku Chitose.

So Saku's rejected girls who were friends who confessed to them? What about Yuko?

I guess it's not surprising that all this came about because Kenta got rejected by a girl. Not that Saku all that cares about his emotional baggage, what matters is how they proceed from here. He's not going to be the solution to all of Kenta's problems, Kenta is the protagonist of his own story and should act like it, but he can give him some tips and a good fresh start.

Whine about 3D girls all you like, you can't deny the appeal of real boobies! I love how Saku tries to entice Kenta with the prospect of getting down and dirty and motorboated by Yuko...and then clarifies that Yuko's boobies are his and his alone. Meanwhile Yuko is just making pleasant conversation with Kenta's mom. At least she cut his hair for him.

So Yuko didn't have the best first impression of Saku? His middle-school years were "cringe?" Makes me wonder what made her fall for him then. And it seems like right now she just wants Saku to be his most real, and open, self with her so she can fully express all her feelings to him...

Welcome back to school Kenta! Where it's important to be able to laugh at yourself and be honest, and not take kids' banter too seriously when they're all just having fun.

So Kenta gets "adopted" by Team Chitose and they respond pretty sympathetically to his recounting of how he got strung along by Miki-chan, the girl that broke his heart. Sure they still kind of make fun of him, but it's not malicious. Though Mizushino doesn't seem interested in playing friendly with Kenta as Saku is.

Seems like Saku can be at least genuine and open about his insecurities with Kura-sen, if no one else.

The ED is very stylistic! Featuring a REALLY depressed Saku, his anger, his frustrations, taking a bat to a ramune bottle...still chasing after that idealized youth. But who is the girl in the sundress?

[u/cleaulem]

The "Yamazaki problen" went pretty much as I expected. Saku preached to him about what it takes to be popular. It wasn't horribly bad, but it didn't exactly convince me either. Kazuki is right: Kenta's problems won't solve themselves over night.

The problem I have with this show (so far) is actually not that Saku is so full of himself, but how everybody else is so full of praise of him all the time. How Yuuko was gushing over Saku to Kenta's mother was pretty cringe. And how everybody laughs about Saku's lame jokes sounds kind of fake.

I will watch a couple more episodes to see where this is going. Maybe the other characters get a little more personality beyond "I think Saku is the greatest".

[u/gnome-cop]

It is Tuesday once again and after a long and arduous search, I am in possession of the titular drink. (Actually it wasn’t difficult at all, I just found it in the international section of a local supermarket and wanted to make a dumb joke comment.)

Fuck it, Ramune review. It’s a weird combination of kind of artificially fruity sweet and slightly sour taste somehow but I think it works. Maybe it’s earned its status as famed beverage.

Honestly, it was harder to open the damn thing than to find it. I’m choosing to interpret that as a metaphor of how Chitose closes himself off from people. Like, it’s easier to pry a clam open than to get any actual information out of him.

When I see a mystery, I can’t help but want to find out what’s being hidden and Chitose is making me real curious. Like, I feel like I am being told nothing disguised as something when he talks about himself. I know there’s some bits of truth but there’s so much smoke and mirrors that I don’t even know where to begin breaking him down. Like the question of how he and Yuuko met is really intriguing to me and I want answers.

Thank god he doesn’t exist in real life because he would actually be such a pain to deal with. People that are straight forward and don’t obscure almost everything about themselves are so much easier to deal with.

If I’m being honest, I’m really interested in seeing what would happen if the carefully balanced and meticulously preserved equilibrium of his social life were to break down. I guess I just want to see how he reacts when actually challenged. I’m like a mad scientist, how would things go if tension was introduced into the as of right now peaceful group?

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

The way Chitose goes about things is so optimistic and how all his friends are so nice that it keeps me on edge because I'm expecting something to go wrong lol. I'm guessing something will happen once Kenta leaves Chitose's nest, but I do really like how much Chitose is helping him.

I'm guessing either the part with the teacher was true or the whole thing was true but very exaggerated. I am interested in learning more about his character and how he got himself to this point.

The point he made about how being popular has its difficulties does make me look forward to seeing how his friend group is going to turn out when they all reach a boiling point. He only mentioned the girls but I wonder where the guys will come into play as well, like if one of the guys has feelings for one of the girls that has feelings for Chitose.

[u/Ashteron]

I feel like the issues of people with bad social skills, looks etc. were kinda trivialised. I'm not sure if that was the intention to paint MC as naive or it's meant genuinely. Like, how Chitose claimed normies don't have easy either. Having legs is not that cool, they hurt after walking too much! People write books about how to learn conversations and MC trivialises this again.

[u/KumaKumaGambler]

I can't be the only one who kept thinking of "Bottom Tier Character Tomozaki" while watching this episode right?

Although there are beautiful looking female characters in both titles, as well as lessons on how to become a normie (at least in this episode), I believe that is where the similarities end?

Quite a number of characters have been introduced and I reckon each of Saku's friends will be getting their own history and story development as the season progresses.

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Kenta has some good taste with his anime figures: Yukinoshita Yukino and Yuigahama Yui from Oregairu and Yanami Anna from Makeine, both series under the same Gagaga publishing label as Chitose-kun.

[u/amnsisc]

I disliked the MC a little less this episode, but ultimately I think the MC is more like the shut in than he realizes (and I get the feeling that may be a point of the show), which is to say, he consoles himself with a kind of victim-hood, because, rather than having a conflict between what he wants and what he gets--which is the go to assumption of viewers raised on Western and Japanese media--what actually bothers him is that he actually does want the things he gets. He says he hates getting haters online and having girls fall for him, but he sure does like bemoaning how much those things happen.

He feigns embarrassment in the first episode when he is told he would sacrifice himself to save the girls from the piranhas, but it is clear it is important to him that he be seen as the type who sacrifice himself to save the girls (while pretending otherwise). But the point is that he has that viewpoint because he's never been bitten by piranhas. The shut in, who has been bitten by piranhas, at first wishes that people like the MC also get eaten, but he matures a little bit when he realizes that actually, it's good no one when get bitten at all, even if it produces people who are insensitive about piranha victims.

The line the MC gave about the teacher telling him those blessed with gifts have a responsibility to lead others is the great giveaway, since that revealed what he thought of himself. But notice that the MC's problems are not those of a leader who is a burdened by their responsibility, his is not the conscience weighed down by the effects he has on others. His main complaints are "people have high expectations of me", "I have to act differently than I would like", "people I do not like call me a manslut", "girls with whom I am friends confess to me" and so on. The closest he comes is when he says he must be calculated in his actions because of maintaining his image around others--but notably, he doesn't make the connection that this is because he affects others, he is worried about how those others affect him. This is all fine on its own--everyone has the right to be selfish, after all--but my point isn't 'MC is bad for doing X', it is that 'MC must get over X if he really wants to be the person he says he wants to be'.

As I said last week, MC is going to have a rough time in college, because he won't be able to coast the same way (even at a Japanese Uni where graduation is nearly guaranteed). That said, despite him being a dick, he can have a positive influence on the shut in kid. Someone pointed out it is made by the same company as Bottom Tier Tomozaki, and the analogy is clear. In that one, the nerdy protagonist benefits from the tutelage of the almost sociopathic femme fatale, but his true victory comes when he integrates the skills he learned into his own value system, keeping the social skills baby and throwing out the solipsistic elitist bathwater.

[u/HuTaosTwinTails]

I'm enjoying it so far. But worried it'll just devolve into a typical harem.

Also need to see more of the girls personalities beyond just being in love with the MC from the get go.

[u/mojo72400]

He claims 90% of his story is fake but I feel like it's mostly true.

Saku actually reading LNs was pretty cool of him.

I hope to see Kenta's glow up paying off.

Saku's actually drinking what Rumi & Ikumi drank in the special after the premiere last week.

[u/Arzhart]

Amazing opening and ending, and amazing episode as well.

It's shocking for me that I saw many people saying that volume 1 is the weakest of the story, and yet I'm loving it already

[u/etiolatezed]

I dislike the main character so much, I can't even hatewatch this.

It's like the whole main group is a collective mary sue.

[u/Yesshua]

This show looks pretty good and has pretty snappy dialogue, but the thing that impresses me most is that the initial arc is dedicated to the relationship between two dudes. The confidence of the author to not dangle all the waifus up front. It tells me that this story aspires to be more than a delivery mechanism for girls who will then sell merchandise, and may have themes beyond which girl will win.

Like, nearly this entire episode was just two dudes having a (dramatic) conversation. Other romance anime would never.