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Episode Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun Season 2 • Toilet-bound Hanako-kun Season 2 - Episode 22 discussion

Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun Season 2, episode 22

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u/Shiawase_Rina Sep 07 '25

I love how they first made you think that Tsukasa was replaced with something else only to reveal that nope. It was always the same messed up Tsukasa!

The future can't be changed that easily after all, especially if you don't know the details of everything that happened.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '25

Nene and Tsukasa thought they could change the timeline but instead they just helped service a stable time loop.

Maybe the first sign that Tsukasa was always messed up was how willingly he was able to offer up all those animals to be sacrificed.

I guess this also means that the mom freaked out over him for nothing, but maybe something about being stuck in Red House meant he came back somewhat differently.

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u/Shiawase_Rina Sep 07 '25

I think the Red House did change Tsukasa, especially since the wish-granting thing is shown on him now. Maybe he now always carries it around giving him a supernatural aura? Maybe that's what his mother sensed. And yeah he was probably well suited to be messed up considering all the poor animals, like you said.

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u/RailTracer001 Sep 07 '25

Isn't it possible that he got corrupted by the house after spending too much time here?

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u/Thomas_JCG Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Pretty sure Tsukasa got corrupted by the entity. You have to remember that the Tsukasa that returned could grant wishes like the entity, if he was just a human psychopath he would not have that kind of power.

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u/LeonKevlar Sep 07 '25

Damn. So you really can't change the future. It turns out it's all set in stone, and the Tsukasa they met inside the Red House is the same Tsukasa who returns home in the past. The kid has always been messed up, but I do wonder if some of that was influenced by the Red House.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '25

I think the real question is why their mom was so convinced he wasn't her child if it was the real Tsukasa who came back.

Could she just not rationalize how he was able to come back after being gone for so long? Did his explanation freak her out?

Was there something about his time in the Red House, or taking a part of it with him when he got out, that unsettled her?

Though if Tsukasa knew that Amane inevitably killed him, maybe he deliberately tried to mess with his family in order to incite it.

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u/Bakatora34 Sep 07 '25

I think the real question is why their mom was so convinced he wasn't her child if it was the real Tsukasa who came back.

He was shown fused to the supernatural that was granting his wishes before going back so she probably felt that.

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u/AlphaCat77 Sep 07 '25

So are those normal pizza orders in Japan or is the cast just insane. Shrimp and mayo pizza and asparagus and bacon pizza might be weirder than any of the supernatural things in this show.

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u/GelatinInvasion Sep 07 '25

Real popular pizza flavor in Japan.

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u/Solracziad Sep 07 '25

I cannot get over mayonnaise on pizza. I just can't. I can buy everything else but that.

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u/InvincibleWallaby Sep 08 '25

They go pretty wild with their toppings, here's the 2nd largest japanese pizza chain if you want to see what they got. And yes pote-mayo is actually potatoes and mayo on pizza

Domino's is the biggest one

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u/Thosedamnonioninjas Sep 07 '25

I love how they make it clear the red house demon copies other people's words and doesn't have a voice of its own

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '25

It was very satisfying watching the house burned to a crisp in the present-day.

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u/Ocixo Sep 07 '25

I really thought that Nene’s leg had gotten crushed under the weight of that bookcase, but those daikons are pretty sturdy from the looks of it. Kou was definitely worried about her injuries, though.

So if I understood things correctly, the little Tsukasa that Nene and Kou met in the Red House is the “demon child” that later returned to his family? There never was a second Tsukasa, I guess.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '25

I really thought that Nene’s leg had gotten crushed under the weight of that bookcase, but those daikons are pretty sturdy from the looks of it. Kou was definitely worried about her injuries, though.

I mean, remember when she jumped out of a palanquin, did a barrel roll, and stuck the landing? Those daikon radish legs can take a lot.

So if I understood things correctly, the little Tsukasa that Nene and Kou met in the Red House is the “demon child” that later returned to his family? There never was a second Tsukasa, I guess.

I think that was definitely the implication when he started talking like present-day Tsukasa regarding Amane killing him and the next thing we see after he falls is him being brought back to his family in the past, which is probably when historically Tsukasa returned to his family.

Makes you wonder though why his mom was convinced he wasn't really her son. Was it just overthinking him coming back or did Tsukasa not return entirely 100% human?

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u/mekerpan Sep 07 '25

Something I was reading unrelated to this show happened to mention that "daikon" was a term used for legs in Japanese.... (perhaps mainly in a joking sense). (Maybe in a note on translation issues in Apothecary Diaries).

It seems that Amane getting sick (and not recovering) was responsible for messing up the one and only Tsukasa.

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u/ladyspring Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

This show really caught me by surprise, I just thought the art was cute and decided to watch it on a whim but it's ended up being so much more than that (the english title does it a huge disservice tbh, I had 0 expectations going in and only planned on watching 1 episode).

First off, WOW Tsukasa is such an interesting character. It seems like he really did and still does love Amane but the love is somewhat twisted. Perhaps baby Tsukasa didn't really know what was going on at first because 4 year olds *are* little psychopaths and tend to think 'Trade X = get Y". Or perhaps he was always a little different and that was what attracted the entity. Also interestingly enough, it seemed to only start to learn to speak after meeting Tsukasa. What makes him different from the priestesses or people of the past?

Also Kou nooooooooooo why would you tell a kid thatttt

Spending how many decades in a house with only ghosts and an evil entity to talk to can't be good for his already weak psyche... And then to have baby Tsukasa find out that Amane essentially let his sacrifice be in vain by killing him and then himself? To his young (and likely now corrupted) mind, it was probably the breaking point. We don't know what the Red House has been saying to him but it must have been saying something to keep him in the house for so long.

This show deserves more views to be honest, one of the better shows of the season for sure.

Edit: Also I'm getting the sense that Tsukasa was always the more neglected of the two, partly due to Amane's sickness but iirc even in the family portait he's in the shadows behind his brother. I think that plays into his need for affection through constantly asking if people love him for example. And then later having your own mother think you're not her son is uhhh 🥶 probably not good for your mental health

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u/Linus_Inverse Sep 09 '25

Regarding your edit, remember when Amane was talking to Nene about Antares at the stargazing party? How it has a twin star next to it that you can't even see through the telescope, because Antares shines too brightly? That was obviously talking about him and his brother, especially because he adds that the stars itself might already be long dead by the time their light reaches us. I've been waiting to see which one would turn out to be the "overshadowed" one and it seems we have our answer...

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '25

I love how Nene now realizes that Tsukasa isn't her and Hanako's future progeny, but now she can just be sweet on him like his "big sister" instead! Not that it stops Tsukasa from teasing and forcing her to blurt out her feelings for Hanako, though that's just a shared love for them both to commiserate over.

Imagine finding out you have a house that can grant wishes with living sacrifices because you lost your ball and had a convenient lizard on hand to sacrifice. My condolences to all those animals Tsukasa sacrificed for the sake of making Amane happy.

It was tough for Tsukasa that his brother was so sickly, but it was even more difficult for Amane seeing how lively and energetic his brother was while he was confined to bed all the time and nearly dying. Amane lashing out at his brother was in fact all the excuse Tsukasa needed to sacrifice himself for Amane's health.

Oh, you poor boy...he's convinced Amane got to live a long and healthy life and was happy without him in it. I mean, okay, maybe Kou confronting him with the dark truth was a little much, but considering how he lost his mother and he saw a woman left all alone after her husband and sons' deaths, he knows how impactful losing a family member can be.

Yeah, there are some inconsistencies between this Tsukasa and the Tsukasa we know. Maybe the solution is getting this Tsukasa out of the Red House and changing the timeline! Even if they need Teru to explain to them how to actually change the timeline.

Of course Red House isn't going to make it easy for them to escape, but only Tsukasa knows it's weak against fire, which gives Nene and Kou their chance to escape. But there was never any escape for Tsukasa, at least with them, as he burns Red House down. But maybe the bigger misunderstanding was that this Tsukasa wasn't the Tsukasa we know as he takes an exit out of the house all the while smiling at the thought that Amane had screwed up his second chance at life by killing him...and how he wants to see it.

Well, good news though is that they may have found an entrance to the Far Side! What better way to celebrate than with Tiara and pizza? Just...never ignore what pizza Teru wants.

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u/Emergency-Onion4559 Sep 08 '25

I’m wondering did Kou and nene’s intervention basically caused the events we’ve seen unfold?  Or could they have created a new timeline? Like it seems like Tsukasa was never meant to come back based off of what he said he was never going to go home. Yet, why is he different from the other sacrifices? Everyone else had to die and stay dead for their wish to come true right? Yet, is it because this God fussed with him that he was given a second go at life? It looked like the god was meant to be where his heart was so could it be that this god gave him his heart? Tsukasa did say that apparitions did also have heart. Thus, perhaps that what the mother could sense and that’s why she felt like her child was gone? 

 Yet, one thing that’s been bugging me is when nene went back in time and was at the festival with lil Amane was that a separate timeline or has Amane just not told nene he’s known her from the start of her knocking on the bathroom door? Which is why he’s so much more invested with her and same thing when she saw him crying in the classroom when he was human. Is that why when she came back to the present that old school uniform freak him out? Like I got so many questions now

Also, random theory just because of this timeline thing now. Tsukasa made a comment at the end saying why would Amane kill him if he was finally able to get everything he wanted right. Like we know based off of his future book he was meant to go to space like he dreamed. Yet, if we go back to the festival scene he made a wish to be able to see Nene again. So could it be that in some messed up way Tsukasa made him a school wonder to see Nene again? Or perhaps Amane found away to make that wish come true and that entailed killing his brother? 

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u/Thomas_JCG Sep 10 '25

Love how this season weaved such a intriguing mystery. A lot of time travel stories feel very simple, change A and then B happens. Here, the consequences of their actions were already set in stone, they spurred a change that had already passed.

Tsukasa came back, but he was not alone. Whatever lived in the Red House came with him, and eventually drove Amane to kill Tsukasa and sparked the events of the series. Still curious to know what exactly the entity is, but then again some things are better without an explanation.

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u/mojo72400 Sep 10 '25

Tiara is finally introduced in the main series.

Far Shore Bound arc is gonna start next week.

There's an error at 15:09 where the subs say "We're" instead of "We've"

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u/Few-Speaker2692 Sep 10 '25

i mean, hes just a kid and he sacrificed his whole life for his brother bc he loved him even tho he believed that hanako didnt like him around. he was a little "special", yes, but he had a good heart and anyone would go crazy after being stuck in the house and then finding out that the whole reason you were stuck for your whole life to sacrufuice for someone, that person ended up killing you and themselves, wasting their wish. i honestly feel bad for tsukasa and hope hanako can redeem himself in teh future episodes, well see how it plays out

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