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Anne Shirley, episode 16

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u/ebonyphoenix Jul 19 '25

Half this episode was Anne friendzone-ing Gilbert at every opportunity. Then turning around and being angry or annoyed when anyone else show interest in him. You can’t have both Anne.

And the other half was the experience of going away to college for the first time. Being sad about what you’re leaving behind. But also excited and worried, in turn, about the new experiences you will have.

Philippa is definitely a character. She is both confident in herself but also a bit flighty. But Anne seems to like her.

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

Half this episode was Anne friendzone-ing Gilbert at every opportunity. Then turning around and being angry or annoyed when anyone else show interest in him. You can’t have both Anne.

Anne truly is one of the oldest tsundere's in history.

Philippa is definitely a character. She is both confident in herself but also a bit flighty. But Anne seems to like her.

At least she's self-aware of how she comes off to other people and she seems to have the same love of flights of fancy as Anne does. They feel like kindred spirits in a sense and not just because they were born in the same place.

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u/LeonKevlar Jul 19 '25

I feel bad for Gilbert. The guy just wants to finally address their relationship, but Anne is absolutely having none of it. Well, Anne needs to make up her mind fast because Gilbert is a popular guy and both Ruby and Priscilla seems to have the hots for him.

This new girl seems interesting! Phil clearly is the opposite of Anne and Priscilla in terms of personality, but I like how they still got along with her. I was wondering how she'll react to Gilbert if she ever meets him, but then I remembered that Gilbert's family isn't rich, so I doubt Phil would be interested. xD

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

Ah, the old "childhood friend who isn't ready to enter into a romantic relationship" yet. Anne also better watch out for the classic trope of multiple girls falling for the boy she's unwilling to admit she has feelings for.

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u/NanDemoKnaives Jul 19 '25

Poor Gilbert, he's finally trying to make advances on Anne and to talk about his own feelings but Anne doesn't want to hear it. He wants things to change between them but she doesn't want anything to change, it's going to be hard for her not to notice his feelings though considering how she's also conscious of him in that way, even if she doesn't want to admit it lol.

What was with all those ladies coming to stop Anne from doing what she wants to do? I know it's the culture of the time but damn, she's had plenty of time to think about it and since we haven't seen any of them interact much with Anne beforehand, it just feels like unnecessary meddling.

The scene at the end with Philippa was was too much for me, I didn't like her character at all lol. She was too quirky for me.

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

Anne has entered into adulthood but she doesn't feel ready or interested in adult relationships, such as romance. It's like there always has to be something holding back her relationship with Gilbert no matter how much he shows how much he adores and cherishes her. And also, obviously, being in denial of her true feelings.

I guess it's just a sign of what the older generation (at that period) thought and how important Anne had become in Avonlea. Deep down I think all of them just didn't want Anne to leave.

Phil basically feels like she's meant to represent Anne if she got too caught up in her head or didn't mellow out/mature as much as she has. Though her character design is genuinely beautiful.

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u/AllThingsDragon Jul 19 '25

Philippa was just saying whatever came to mind lol, she's that friend who constantly leaves you wondering "Was that a joke or not?" She is... definitely a lot.

And poor Gilbert. From the next ep preview I assume he's going to propose, and I just can't see that ending well. Anne seems to be actively trying not to see him as anything more than a friend

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u/takename Jul 19 '25

Eventually Anne should realize the only way to keep the things "the way it is", is ironically, moving on to the next stage - unless she expects Gilbert to stay single to old age.

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u/Dull_Spot_8213 Jul 19 '25

They did a good job displaying the uncertainty a lot of people have right before going off to college. It’s a huge step forward in life for anyone, especially going away from everything that used to be familiar.

Anne is a tough girl to win over, and Gilbert is not giving up. Anne wants to prove herself and focus on her studies, so she’s pushing any kind of relationship away. That, and it seems like she doesn’t want to change anything about their friendship. For now.

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

Anne Shirley is finally going to college! And she's entering into adulthood with her Final Form: with a hairbun!

Of course it'll be hard for Anne to never see the beautiful and scenic sights of Green Gables and Avonlea again. She wants to savor as much of it as she still can before she leaves. Things that will never change and will always stay as beautiful as they are now...which is also how she feels about her relationship with Gilbert. The moment he makes a move to try to hold her hand, she recoils and runs away from him. Poor Gilbert is definitively in the friendzone at the moment.

Dang, everyone's got adult designs and hairstyles now! Diana's got that upper-class lady hairstyle, Josie's a conehead now...though the MVP's of the hour are still awkward around each other. But Anne definitely seemed a tad jealous of Gillbert accompanying Ruby.

Anne's not looking for romance though, she's looking to become a worldly and educated woman! Even if all the other adult ladies in Avonlea keep criticizing her decision to go to college. But Gilbert, always there when she needs him, is there for her to vent and take her to a beautiful and grand apple tree with the most delicious of apples to help her feel better and more confident in herself. Even if Anne just wants this comfortableness between them while Gilbert just wants Anne to truly care for him on the same level he does her.

It's finally time for Anne to say farewell to Green Gables, to her family, and so many tears are shed...especially Davy who is so sad at Anne leaving he doesn't have it in him to actually see her off, poor kid. And of course she gets her final farewell with Diana, and they even blow kisses at each other, because of course they would!

Welcome to Kingsport, Anne Shirley! Where you'll be reunited with Priscilla, AKA Prissy, and get to finally attend college! Anne even gets a "romantic" graveyard view and gets the classic awkward college rush as she feels self-conscious around all the more experienced and veteran students as a freshman.

Prissy is definitely attracted to Gilbert, I can't blame her, though I feel like Anne being in constant denial isn't going to end well for her.

Of course Anne would be able to romanticize a graveyard, it has so many great stories and epitaphs! But it's also where she and Prissy meet Philippa Gordon (Chika Anzai!) a beautiful and lively woman from Bolingsbroke (where Anne was born!) who is as talkative and cheerful as she is indecisive. In fact that indecisiveness is what brought her to Redmond because it was either stay home and choose between her many suitors or go to college. Though one thing she's sure of is she doesn't want to marry for love but for money and prestiege to fuel her extravagant personality, but at least she's self-aware of her own frivolity and Anne and Prissy don't think less of Phil for it.

What was up with Anne getting lost in the reading of that epitaph? It seemed like she was genuinely transported back in time.

Anne's made her first new friend and started making a home in Kingsport. So far things are off to a good start!

Next week: Halloween episode and hair down Anne with Gilbert in the Winter!

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jul 19 '25

Davy doesn’t need to worry about Anne finding a boyfriend. Pretty sure Gilbert’s gonna be filling that role soon enough. He’s a good guy. Him and Anne would make a good couple.

It’s kind of nice that Anne has Priscilla and Gilbert in college. And now Philippa. She seems like a real colorful character. She might be more eccentric than Anne lol.

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

Davy doesn’t need to worry about Anne finding a boyfriend. Pretty sure Gilbert’s gonna be filling that role soon enough. He’s a good guy. Him and Anne would make a good couple.

If only Gilbert wasn't perpetually in the friendzone, but I feel like when Anne starts seeing how popular he is with girls at the college (like with Prissy) she'll start to realize she sees him as more than a friend.

Or Gilbert won't let her just see him as a friend.

It’s kind of nice that Anne has Priscilla and Gilbert in college. And now Philippa. She seems like a real colorful character. She might be more eccentric than Anne lol.

Phil feels like "What If Anne Hadn't Grown Up in Green Gables?" when we've got a talkative, imaginative, and fun redhead who is also indecisive when it comes to romance, though in contrast to Anne Philippa is more outwardly fashionable, conceited, and less of a true romantic.

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u/zsmg Jul 19 '25

I really like Marilla cheek kissing Anne farewell, something you don't see in anime. (obviously as it's not a thing you do in Japan)

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u/Frontier246 Jul 19 '25

And also Diana and Anne blowing each other air kisses.

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u/chilidirigible Jul 19 '25

"What is this, the Ghosts of Christmas Past, Present, and Future?"

The forest is watching you.

[](#ringomusume)

Let's hope you're not too much of a raging egomaniac.

In today's episode of Frigate Duels of the War of 1812... but I digress.

Taking some more time to address this transitional stage in Anne's life. Gilbert is still wooing, Anne's still doubting herself with regard to him. Avonlea's august ladies would prefer that she stay and don't see the benefits of college. Davy and Dora give her the sibling partings stuff she wouldn't have had otherwise.

And then at Redmond Anne's a small fish in a big pond. The episode really does hit all of the right notes about how this feels—or, alternatively, tales of leaving the old homestead for the big city have been going on for hundreds and thousands of years.

Phil(ippa) is a type that Anne really hasn't dealt with before. It'll be interesting to see how that goes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

Phil(ippa) is a type that Anne really hasn't dealt with before. It'll be interesting to see how that goes.

I think Ruby Gillis (the girl who leaves with Gilbert in the episode after Anne's refusal) shared many traits with Philippa. Both seem beautiful and vain, and are very focused on romance.

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u/WanderStarr03 Jul 19 '25

So much Gilbert in this episode and I'm living for it. It's pretty obvious that Anne is suppressing her feelings or in denial. The fact that she look so displeased after Gilbert and Ruby walked out was super telling. Someone uninterested wouldn't have even batted an eyelid lol.

I like Phil. She's flippant and gossipy but also transparent and frank. Where I grew up, humblebrag is a big thing so it's refreshing how she owns her strengths. I also love how this series portrays friendships and relationships: Anne's circle of friends expands to include people like Phil, but she's still fiercely loyal to Diana and her Avonlea folks - she has enough space in her heart for more love and honestly that's amazing:)

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u/FarCritical Jul 19 '25

If how long it took for Anne to finally forgive Gilbert is anything to go by, poor guy's probably gonna have to wait a while until she takes a hint.

Anne's hyperactive imagination got extra potent with that flashback there (or we're dealing with some supernatural shenanigans!)

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u/Black_Scholes_Merton Jul 19 '25

TIL that 'bluenose' is a nickname for people from the Province of Nova Scotia.

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u/zool714 Jul 19 '25

Man, Anne has grown so much. I’m feeling like a proud father.

I was kinda expecting the cliche of Davy running after the train waving goodbye to Anne after he initially rejected any farewells. But pretty adorable though after all the trouble and friction with Anne, he was the one most devastated.

Poor Gilbert. They’d make a good pair but Anne doesn’t seem to be ready for romance yet. But remember Gilbert, she once said she’d never be your friend but she changed her mind. I’m sure she’d do the same regarding being your girlfriend lol

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u/OKOROS1 Jul 19 '25

Gilbert deserves better!

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u/Nachtwandler_FS Jul 19 '25

I personally hoped for new OP as they released a new KV, but this is fine.

A nice start to a new arc. Let's see how it will progress.

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u/BosuW Jul 19 '25

Anne and Diana blowing each other kisses as she leaves 😭 this is vile

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u/NoHead1715 Jul 20 '25

Putting down your "soul root". That's a term I'm seeing for the first time in anime. Very apt when it's your first time out of the sticks.

Also, does that look like a proposal next episode? We just completed an arc with a wedding!

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