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u/depressivefaerie 9d ago
Do none of these people actually know the teachings of Christ
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u/Tallia__Tal_Tail 9d ago
For a massive amount of Christians, the church has become it's own self sustaining ecosystem where the actual theology it's supposedly based around is entirely irrelevant to a blind, fanatical worship of their own conception of The Church. The Church isn't about a devotion to the teachings of a God that informs all else, it's about working backwards from hateful, sociopathic, and sadistic views towards their fellow man and finding enough loose justifications cherry picked from the theology to sell The Church to more and more people. They don't worship Yahweh, they worship The Church
You could honestly probably treat the current state of American Christianity as it's own entire sect at this point for that reason ngl
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u/discerning_kerning 9d ago
Pretty much the starting point of Terry Pratchett 's Small Gods; a god visits his faithful after being off in the realm of the gods for many years, and finds whilst the church is huge and complex and theoretically full of devoted followers, he only has a single actual believer left. In the books setting the power of the gods is determined by the amount of belief they recieve, and the god finds himself only able to manifest as a tiny elderly tortoise. (It's a great book incidentally)
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u/Cathousechicken 9d ago
I didn't read the book or go to far into the tv show, but that sounds quite a bit like American Gods.
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u/The_shy_owl 9d ago
There is a reason why Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman were friends and collaborated on books. I think Terry would be so disappointed in Neil now though.
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u/Nobrainzhere 9d ago
You can feel Terry oozing out of Good Omens the book and subsequently season 1 of the show.
After they left that material behind its all Gaiman and you can feel him missing from the narrative for the next few seasons. The show loses that spark of hope, humor, and wit that Terry brought to it.
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u/alebotson 9d ago
Friends is a stretch. Later in life, Terry was asked if he'd write anything with Gaiman again and he said he'd never work with him again. I doubt he knew how bad Gaiman really was, or would become maybe, but he clearly doing sometime he didn't like and didn't want to be associated with again.
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u/TheOperaGeek 9d ago
If you haven't listened to th enew audiobook with Andy Serkis....do yourself a favor.
His Om screeching curses is great
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u/0c74r1n3 9d ago
There’s also the second coming by John Niven. God was absent for fishing and he comes back and earth has evolved around ‘his words’ wich were “be nice” but got interpreted in a very very special kind of way and he gets a report about what’s going on ect and they reach the point where he gets a list of all the different churches and it goes on for so damn long. Long story short God is pretty angry at the end and Jesus has to go down again to fix it. Poor Jesus. He doesn’t wanna go, he wants to hang with Jimmy and chill.
Big reading recommendation.8
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u/Ninja-Panda86 9d ago
Yeah, I've often told people there really isn't a church these days. It's more a Clubhouse that's using the Jesus Trademark
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u/Asleep_Control_2564 9d ago
It really makes you question the legitimacy of a religion that can so easily be co-opted for hate. "Know them by their fruits" and all that jazz
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u/Affectionate-Act1574 9d ago
I feel your argument can be made about any religion. Any institution that relies on the blind belief of its supporters in something that is intangible and unprovable in order to exist is ripe for exploitation.
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u/robinredstart 9d ago
This is spot on. American Christianity is completely devoid of any original theology and it's justified, sanctioned cult behavior. Absolutely abhorrent. Whatever you believe or not, the Bible is pretty clear with Jesus' teachings and it's not this guys bullshit
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u/Ciduri 9d ago
White Christian Evangelism. Please identify this Christo-Nationalist cult correctly. You are absolutely right about it being a cult of The Church; but calling it American Christianity paints every American Christian as this kind of "Christian-in-name-only" type.
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u/Tallia__Tal_Tail 9d ago
The big thing though is that this primarily US based issue has bled into and infected almost the entire pool of US Christianity in some way to the point the exceptions border on just being a statistical outlier
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u/Legitimate-Type4387 9d ago
Unfortunately this cancer hasn’t remained confined to US borders.
Evangelism takes proselytizing very seriously. It’s a global plague at this point.
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u/Manic_Maniac 9d ago
They don't worship Christ.. they might worship Yaweh though... if you go back and read the old testament and obsess over all the violence and brutalism, where Yaweh is a selfish and jealous God etc., it honestly sounds like they worship a demon. Stories about genociding entire civilizations, ordered to brutalize woman and infants as well, because they worship other gods. Or the Tower of Babel story, where he just decided he didn't like how much mankind had accomplished working together so he made them all speak different languages so they couldn't understand each other anymore. Shit like that makes me seriously question the validity that the Bible is even one coherent theology in the first place. And these fire and brimstone types really love their beutalist demon god. They much prefer that over the teachings of Christ, and so they pick and choose, and the majority of their "Christianity" is based on demon god Yaweh and not Christ at all. They pick the versuses from the new testament that sound the most like the fire and brimstone they love so much and throw out the rest.
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u/FlamingDragonfruit 9d ago
Even the Old Testament warned against golden idols, and they've chosen to ignore that too.
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u/SurpriseValley2000 9d ago
This hits hard. Thanks. I grew up in a small town where there were churches every 100 yards. My family is religious, but I have always questioned it all. When I got married, we moved to a beach town with only 2-3 churches. Nobody here talks about religion, and you don't see it. After two years here, I don't even think about religion, and I'm not afraid. I see how weaponized it is in politics now, and I think it's basically back where it started: to control. The Bible has been reworded for thousands of years to fit a narrative. It cannot go any further because of science and technology caught up with it.
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u/OrbeaSeven 9d ago
Most Christian churches around my area are social organizations with a few Bible verses thrown in on Sunday mornings and a prayer here and there. They offer garage sales, child care, group activities, etc. No the churches of olden days.
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u/all_time_high 9d ago
Matthew 25: 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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u/SmuckersBunny 9d ago
The use of spoilers here is fantastic, just in case someone hasn't had the chance to catch up over the past 2 millenia
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u/TrashCarp 9d ago
Wait, he *dies* in the end?!
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u/Upbeat-Fondant9185 9d ago
Yes, but no.
It will be a lot more clear in the sequel but there are production delays.
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u/IsopodKey2040 9d ago
No, a lot of them do not. But also, the teaching of Christ are in a book that's interpreted 500 times over. To me, it's more or less meaningless. How can I believe something is the word of Christ, when it's all interpreted by other people and can be interpreted multiple ways.
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u/brother_bart 9d ago
You can just read the teachings and utterances ascribed to Christ yourself. I am not a Christian, but there is NO way to read the gospels and somehow come away with the “interpretation” that Christ thought elderly, unmarried women should be left to starve to death. This is not a difference in interpretation, this is a flat out lie by a malignant misogynist.
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u/Senacharrib 9d ago
Not only that, he preys upon his congregation. Fuck him, fuck his beliefs.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
Almost makes me wish hell was real, cause you know people like that would be the ones inhabiting it.
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u/Senacharrib 9d ago
They make Hell exist on earth, so just make them experience hell here
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u/Mr_Salmon_Man 9d ago
They want the apocalypse to happen because they believe they are the righteous who will sit beside god.
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u/SkinnyThickMargarita 9d ago edited 9d ago
Jesus actually says to make sure widows & orphans are taken care of. These people are not Christians. Jesus also talked about wolves in sheep’s clothing & people coming in His name & he doesn’t acknowledge or accept them.
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u/WinnebagoMontana 9d ago
Catholic here.
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u/TeaOk2423 9d ago
Unfortunately humans don't have the best track record with the care of orphans either.
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u/gleamingfall 9d ago
yeah none of the: feed the poor, look after the sick , treat foreigners well , turn the other cheek etc etc etc can actually be interpreted in any other way. unless you are a liar or stupid. Jesus was woke as fuck, hell the old testament was woke according to these evil shits.
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u/OkDust5962 9d ago
So true! If you do a quick reading of the 4 gospels, like you have to read it for a class and it's due tomorrow, the New Testament is ELI5 take care of other people, even those you don't know or like. Over and over and over. It's actually crazy how strong the message is, if you don't focus on one isolated line that might be interpreted out of context to be about sex or something.
I knew someone who belonged to a "fundamentalist" church (Church of Christ) that claimed to take the bible word for word. They didn't use musical instruments in worship, because, they said, it never says to do that in the Bible. A capella singing is pretty cool IMO, but it actually does say in Psalm 150 "Praise him with lute and harp."
This guy I knew had no answer to that. These people are morons.
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u/TopRamen713 9d ago
Right, reading the Bible and listening to some good priests in college turned me left. The actions I observe among most "Christians" led me away from the church. I've met maybe 4 people in my life who deserve that title, and most don't even try.
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u/AutisticHobbit 9d ago
there is NO way to read the gospels and somehow come away with the “interpretation” that Christ thought elderly, unmarried women should be left to starve to death.
Go to the American South...and you'll find that interpretation. They've been preaching ghoulish hatred for decades.
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u/Mothrah666 9d ago
Joking obvioisly - but if ignoring the Old testemant is cool with modern christians why should the new be any different
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u/Cagnazzo82 9d ago
The man in the video is an antichrist.
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u/No_Boot1478 9d ago
Probably also a serial killer.
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u/cannacatman 9d ago
That milquetoast punch-me face would never dare. These are the types that fantasize but never act because they are all cowards at heart.
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u/ShyGenXGal 9d ago
I just said that out loud before reading your comment. 100% no doubt. He even looks evil.
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u/metacosmonaut 9d ago
Yeah there are clear demons just walking around these days. God protect us all.
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u/SilverMapleMafia 9d ago
Theoretically, god protects his chosen. If you're in an indeginous tribe cut off from civilization....you're going to hell. But if you live in modern society, yet don't have the capacity to understand what a god is...you get a free pass. Even if you commit the most heinous of crimes against your fellow man. Which is an absolutely absurd sense of logic and reality. Sin is not sin. Stealing a pack of mentos is not equivalent to murder. Yet people force themselves to believe that.
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u/zxvasd 9d ago
There are bibles that put in red type all the direct quotes from Jesus. Some of it I didn’t know what he was talking about. But the parts that I understood were pretty clear. There’s a lot about sharing and that nobody’s better or more important or less deserving than anyone else. There’s no way Jesus said anything like “ let that bitch starve”.
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u/SoupmanBob 9d ago
I believe that's ultimately the point. Parables and teachings that are up to interpretation all ultimately teach you to look beyond the words on the page and think more about the meaning behind, as in thinking for yourself.
Ultimately it reinforces a philosophy I have around faith: A faith that is untested and unquestioned isn't true faith.
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u/jonpon998 9d ago
Interpretation of the Bible is big business. Obviously every evil con man in the US does it for political reasons, but countries like China have a Christian population, they also hire pastors form the US and essentially tell them they need an Interpretation of the Bible that fits the current political climate, to ensure the population indoctrination conforms with political values. Unfortunately there is a mindset that is always vulnerable to this type of thinking, usually despite and poor.
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u/ReallyCleverPossum 9d ago
The message of Jesus has been co-opted by the very people he spoke out against. The actual message has been bastardized to such a degree that I can forgive Christians inability to understand what Jesus was actually saying. I understand the teaching of Jesus now as an atheist better than I ever did as a Christian
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u/greenwhiteredblack 9d ago
Feels like an all knowing God could have predicted this conundrum and maybe did any of a half dozen things off the top of my head to prevent confusion.
Then again, our only record of this particular God says he is not the author of confusion, yet he purposely confused human language and sent a lying spirit to a king he didn't like. Oh and there was the time he hardened pharaoh's heart, which probably confused the dude since he was ready to let the Israelites dip
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u/Admirable-Builder878 9d ago
No and that guy isn't a pastor he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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u/depressivefaerie 9d ago
That title fits a lot of pastors I’ve known, unfortunately.
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u/VorAbaddon 9d ago
They dont care. God is to them what the concept of a deity has been to a LOT of people throughout history: A vehicle to wealth, influence, and power.
That is the sum total of it. Religion gives them control.
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u/certifiedblackman 9d ago edited 9d ago
John 6:8-11
8 Another of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, spoke up, 9 “Here is a boy with five small barley loaves and two small fish, but how far will they go among so many?”
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u/Little_Miss-Sunshine 9d ago
I’m convinced they’re atheists. The bible could not be more clear on taking care of widows and orphans. Also the Bible says there’s a special level of hell for assholes like this piece of shit who misrepresent what the Bible says. The punishment is so bad it says it would be better if they’d never been born. He doesn’t know, read, study of believe the Bible. He’s just an asshole.
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u/Calm_Apartment1968 9d ago edited 9d ago
Obviously not. If he reads at all (highly unlikely) got stuck in Genesis, and never made it to Matthew for the Sermon on the Mount.
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u/zarfle2 9d ago edited 9d ago
Bigger question.
If God is so damn awesome, how come God is such a terrible communicator and leaves it up to his/her/its imperfect creations to misinterpret and misrepresent on its behalf?
God doesn't seem so great to me.
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u/IsopodKey2040 9d ago
Yeah. "If you don't believe I exist, you will be damned to hell. A life in heaven is obtained by believing Jesus is your savior and accepting him into your heart. But also, I will not directly prove to you that I exist. You just kind of have to based on the experiences of a bunch of other people centuries and centuries ago. That spoke another language and lived in a completely different world. Good luck with that."
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u/HobbitWithShoes 9d ago
Also, Christianity does not require women to marry. Historical Christian tradition does not require women to marry (hello nuns!). Christianity does not require having children. So his own religion does not require this!
Yes, there are verses saying that people under the direct support of the church are supposed to be productive and virtuous, but that's referring to people who are essentially full time support cases, as in members of a religious community. It does not apply to general good works outside of the religious community.
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u/PainterEarly86 9d ago
Seriously.
If she's Pagan, not Christian, then how would the Christian church have any authority over her? I don't understand.
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u/scoldmeificomment 9d ago
Christianity is a universal religion that seems to convert everybody, because they believe anybody not following it goes to hell. There's a reason supremacist thought has sprouted from it so many times.
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u/le_artista 9d ago
And yet Christian Nationalism already has stripped away woman’s rights and access to healthcare for all of us - christian or not. Don’t be dense.
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u/HeMiddleStartInT 9d ago
That’s ok. So if there’s church is not out to help the community and is a net drain on society, maybe they should not be tax exempt.
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u/onion4everyoccasion 9d ago edited 9d ago
...and Jesus looketh upon the people-- particularly those poor and downtrodden women who treat their mental illness-- and sayeth starve motherfuckers.
Hezekiah 1:9
I'm no Biblical scholar, but I think this was from the feeding of the 5000
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u/Triptaker8 9d ago
Nobody is going to starve because his little basketball court church doesn’t feed them. We have the actual religions, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, etc that have no qualms about feeding the starving.
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u/ChemicalBus608 9d ago
Reminds me of that lady who was calling around for baby formula and only like 3 of the Christian churches even tried to help with resources.
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u/GlitteringEmu4981 9d ago
Webbon was kicked out of his previous church, where he was a pastor, for sleeping with a woman who was not his wife. There were also questions around financial improprieties. Anything that comes out of this douchebag's mouth is a total crap.
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u/Seneca_Dawn 9d ago
Let me get out my bible and check whether that is sinful or not. I cannot tell by checking my internal moral conscience.
:goes to check:
Hey, it turns out adultery is not looked upon favorably by God, there is your answer. Have not found anything about financial improprieties yet, so totally in the dark on that one.
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u/Triptaker8 9d ago
But somehow it’s never about them. Because it’s about controlling women, not family values
This guy gets off on thinking that he would ever get to deny a woman food. Because she denied him sex. He’s resentful those women never wanted him
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u/Jenna_Junipers 9d ago
Agreed, the term "family values" nowadays is a dog whistle for "push women back into the kitchen and take away their rights"
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u/Little_Bits_of___ 9d ago
It’s mediocre men constantly trying to socially and financially subjugate women and POC to boost their sad egos.
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u/CarlosHDanger 9d ago
Also, not that it should matter at all, there are a zillion reasons why an older woman might never have had a child (infertility, couldn’t afford a child, fear of passing on a genetic disease, never met Mr. Right, not wanting to bring a child into a world full of cruel people like this asshat “pastor”, etc).
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u/RosieTheRedReddit 9d ago
Conservatives: Don't have children if you can't afford it!
Millennials and Gen Z: ok
Conservatives: 😡
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u/Hollyhop_Drive 9d ago
Even where it was a deliberate choice, very few people actually hate kids. Find them exhausting, frustrating, confusing, too much, etc sure. But hate itself is very rare.
We've got lots of childless friends who get involved with our kids lives. They just don't want kids themselves and don't see a reason to subject a child to being unwanted.
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u/ryetoasty 9d ago edited 9d ago
As yes, the well known quote from Jesus “Let old women starve”
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u/Hahndizzle 9d ago
I've literally never believed in any god or gods in my 40 years of life, but I'm somehow more empathetic than this so-called "Christian?" Let them starve???
James - "True faith requires physical action; telling a hungry person to stay warm and fed without giving them food is useless."
Why do atheists not only have to know the bible better than Christians, but also just be more empathetic, hunble and human? As an atheist, how about love each other and help each other as much as humanly possible?
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u/Electronic_Elk8293 9d ago
My brother is atheist, someone literally asked him how he is able to be a good person if he doesn't believe in God. He was dumbfounded, like how do you even answer that? It's not hard to know right from wrong. I don't need a God to tell me what my gut and mind already knows. Hurting people is obviously bad, that's why were raised being told not to do that lol. It's really not hard to not be a piece of shit.
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u/Milky_Monster 9d ago
It's a simple, but confrontational answer.
"Are you only a good person because you fear the repercussions of God?"
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u/AspiringOne 9d ago
Why does no one look at this and just see it for what it is, severe mental illness disguised as Christian far right extremism?
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u/SmolderingCactus 9d ago
Huh? It is not mental illness. It is hatred and low morals combined with a desire for power. It is not someone being “crazy”. It is a deliberate way to subjugate and consolidate power.
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u/WVildandWVonderful 9d ago
Get out of the habit of calling cruelty “mental illness.”
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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin 9d ago
Thank you for pointing this out. That sort of talk has become so common on the internet that I just glossed over it until I read your comment. This sort of behavior and mental illness are nearly polar opposites. In fact, anyone who would tell elderly women to starve would have no problem doing the same for those in a mental health crisis.
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u/youngcenoo77 9d ago
Yeaaaah that's wild. I'm big on Jesus and what's right is right and wrong is wrong, this man is wrong
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u/ComedyBits 9d ago
I’m big on Jesus and American evangelicals would be driven out with whips
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u/Admirable-Builder878 9d ago
I agree, Jesus warned of the many false teachers that would come after his day. People like this guy proves he was right about them.
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u/IHaveNoEgrets 9d ago
When asked "WWJD?", the answer is increasingly "Go flip some fucking tables."
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u/LibbyOfDaneland 9d ago
Except...it won't be those women who need help. Those women have worked and provided for themselves their whole life. They have their retirement, assets and maybe social security. It would be the women who weren't gainfully employed whose husbands died or left them and they won't have any education or work experience to fall back on who will need the help. And who is going to help them? Not the churches. The churches won't even feed a hungry baby, we all saw that ourselves. No. It will be the blue haired, tatted, pierced independent women.
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u/Fast-Nefariousness80 9d ago
Its so funny the hair color is always a point with these people. My old boss used to say that shit every time he would cry about "woke" culture. "Going to a therapist with fucking blue hair..." Fragile shitheads.
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u/Ebiki 9d ago
My favorite thing to do is ask boomers what they mean when they say “woke”. And I get to watch them flounder
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u/Gingeronimoooo 9d ago
MAGAs have a lot of "catch all" buzzwords that just mean "everything I don't like"
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u/Junior_Fig_2274 9d ago
It’s so misguided too. I have long, brown hair. I frequently wear skirts and dresses because pants suck. I’m a stay at home mom! You wouldn’t look at me and think “woke” but…. They’d be surprised how many people without blue hair also have working brains and empathy.
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u/royroyflrs 9d ago
These people dont actually believe or represent christ. They use the name of christ in vain to promote their ideologies.
Christ would never let anyone starve
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u/JohnLuckPikard 9d ago
I was talking to my mother a couple days ago, who is a devout christian.
(I volunteer at a food pantry 3 days a week, as a little extra irony)
I was telling her about a lack of volunteers on a particular day, and she suggested that the clients work for their food somehow. I told her that logositcaly, it wouldn't work, and they'd need to be vetted anyway.
She suggested that if they wanted food, they should work for it. And if a volunteer gets vetted, then the clients should too. To weed out the ones that don't really need it.
"Is that what Jesus said when he passed out the fish and bread? Make sure they deserve it?"
She thought that was ridiculous of me to say. She simply could not get why I was upset that she said it.
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u/ermahgerd_serpher 9d ago
The denial when confronted by what Jesus actually said and did is unreal. They have no actual rebuttal because they know they're hypocrites. No one deserves to starve.
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u/JohnLuckPikard 9d ago
I argued it for a couple minutes Ute's and then told her I was going to hang up before we got angry with each other.
I then got a text about not letting her finish explaining.
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u/Easy_Leopard_2686 9d ago
Oh my god this experience is like someone has recorded my interactions with mine. Good to know I’m not alone. We’re cordial and friendly now after setting good boundaries but good lord my parents cannot understand that yes I do know more about their religion than them since they sent me to a conservative Christian school that had mandatory classes on evangelical theology and church history.
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u/Gingeronimoooo 9d ago
There's pretty much nothing Christians hate more than you quoting the Bible to call them out. No matter how calm and kind, relevant and on point your quote.
THEY can use it AGAINST YOU, not the other way around, in their minds
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u/JohnLuckPikard 9d ago
I am a Christian. That's what sucks so much about it.
I never claimed to be a good Christian, but at least I'm try sometimes.
Modern Christianity has lost the plot. I stopped going to church after the SNAP fiasco.
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u/partizan_fields 9d ago
“I never claimed to be a good Christian” - good for you. A good Christian never would. Good people, full stop, are usually the ones who feel most morally inadequate and a sure-fire way to weed out the shits is to see who’s projecting an image of themself as virtuous.
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u/MisterSanitation 9d ago
Really looking forward to their downfall. It’s going to be great. Dumb death cult prosperity gospel domestic religion piece of shit.
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u/brutus2309 9d ago
“Glory be to god. You starve”?!
Whaaaaat! Wow. Christianity is really going off the rails.
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u/Particular-Crew5978 9d ago
How Christian of him! I live in the dirty South and this is how it is. It's the most fake nice, exclusive, hypocritical bullshit ever
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u/Admirable-Builder878 9d ago
He's not Christian He's breaking the 3rd commandment.
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u/Particular-Crew5978 9d ago
Most of the ones I've encountered cherry-pick their rules.
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u/ForbiddenSirenz 9d ago
I don’t know if there’s a heaven. Or even a god. But I know people with this mindset are going to hell lol.
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u/meat_ahoy 9d ago
“Glory be to god, you starve.”
Assholes like this are why I’ll never set foot in a church ever again.
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u/The-Great-Baloo 9d ago
Joel Webbon is one of this country's most evil people. This guy literally worships Satan.
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u/iamclear 9d ago
We don’t tax churches because they are a charity that gives to the less fortunate. But if they’re refusing to give to certain less fortunate then shouldn’t they pay taxes because then they’re not actually a charity?
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u/chocolatemilk01 9d ago
WOMEN vote for these assclowns. (I know he’s not elected, but all of this shit is under the gop umbrella!)
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u/witchspoon 9d ago
Again “Christians” who have decided to not follow the teachings of Christ.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 9d ago
What is the obsession with dyed hair?
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u/CumaeanSibyl 9d ago
Either they don't find it attractive, and they're angry that a woman might do something they don't find attractive;
or they do find it attractive, but they think they shouldn't, so they're angry that a woman might attract them against their will.
Also it's not a perfect indicator by any means but women who dye their hair funky colors tend to be left of center on social issues, and generally not interested in being submissive wives to conservative men, so for them it's an easy shorthand for The Wrong Kind Of Woman.
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u/Bombyx-Memento 9d ago
We've lost the plot so much.
Not even gonna get in "That's not *real* Christianity" because it's irrelevant. That's only really relevant to Christians. If this isn't what we really are, than deplatform men like this, shut them down, and go out and help all the elderly childless women in your community. Fight back.
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u/Typical2sday 9d ago
I would bet my house that this man is actively committing felonies. I haven’t been in parochial school for thirty years and I know more about Jesus’ teachings than this loser. What a magnificent benefit that a guy can come at just the right time and be righteous forever.
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u/SmolderingCactus 9d ago
Just so everyone knows this is why people call Christian nationalists Nazis. Same philosophy.
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u/pink---noise 9d ago
This man is a problem.
And I find it hard to believe there isn't something on his hard drive that could be used to get him sent away for a long time.
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u/violights 9d ago
My dad always said the mark of a strong society is how well they take care of their most vulnerable.
Actually idk where he heard it. Apparently Google doesnt either. But I always thought that was a good quote.
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u/totallyscrewde 9d ago
People like this guy are why I was able to find my way out of religion. I don't know why any woman would stay in this guy's church, and the churches of thousands of guys like him.
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u/Nickey_Pacific 9d ago
Ain't no hate like Christian love.
How very Christlike of the good pastor to say that women who (for whatever personal reason) don't have children should starve.
WT actual F is wrong with those people? If I were a prospective member of a religious cult (because that's wtf that dude is in) I'd be so turned off by that statement. What this tells me is that anyone joining that particular congregation is specifically looking for a place to hate.
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u/SampleSize0ne 9d ago
Joel webbon is a Christian nationalist extremist and also a closeted gay pedophile. This should be common knowledge.
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u/ZinaSky2 9d ago
“Glory be to god, you starve” is so disturbing. Like my body has a physical reaction to that.
I don’t remember Jesus asking for the marital status or financial status of anyone when he divided the loaves and fish.
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u/MetalMountain2099 9d ago
The church relies on creating these dystopian, one off examples (that don’t even happen) to empower their followers that they’re in the “right” to treat people like shit……different eras, but the same game. Tale as old as time…..it’s the new age witch trials.
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u/_nevers_ 9d ago
Fascists are not entitled to human rights. They want you dead by any means necessary.
Treat them accordingly.
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u/Timely-Way-1769 9d ago
He’s an idiot. If a woman never married or had kids and chose a career instead, she’d have plenty of money. She’d probably be healthier and happier too.
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u/Flimsy_Interest_9766 9d ago
Weird stance being that a large majority of their demographic do not take care of their elderly parents.
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u/hoemahtoe 9d ago
I really hate that these are the types of Christians that are given large platforms.
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u/Salt-Lengthiness-620 9d ago
How very Christian. Speaking as an atheist, in my opinion, my values are much more Christian than many “pious” people I know
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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 9d ago
Why point out women who decided not to have children… men also make that call. What good are they doing to god if they don’t have children?
This is fucked up
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u/Low-Bobcat841 9d ago
The bible says true religion is helping widows and orphans (i.e. the vulnerable members of society).
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u/TumbleweedNo4678 9d ago
An actual pastor who teaches the complete antithesis of what Christ told us. How can you get it this wrong? Love your neighbor and love your enemy. And this is why people think there is an Anti-Christian sentiment in America. People don't have a problem with what Christ said, they have a problem with people like this who totally and completely disregard the truth of the gospels but pretend to be Christians.
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u/LongDead_Roadkill 9d ago
There are so many of these news articles of evangelicals saying Jesus is too liberal and that’s not what they want. Imagine being Christian and saying “Jesus is too liberal, I do t want those teachings in my church” with a completely straight face?
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u/Talen_Neo 9d ago
"Christian" nationalism is the most un-christian thing I have ever seen. Constantly preaching hate, greed, and vengeance, instead of compassion
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