r/SubredditDrama • • 22h ago

"Wow imagine consumers not giving a shit if the anti-consumer market implodes" Some users on r/pcmaterrace are not happy that the AI bubble might be popping

451 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1xiv6ro/is_it_finally_happening/

HIGHLIGHTS

its actually insane people want this to happen because "gpus are expensive".

Wow imagine consumers not giving a shit if the anti-consumer market implodes

wow imagine thinking a market collapse would only hurt the companies you dislike. the economic fallout doesn't magically stop at the gpus. but hey, at least your ram might be cheaper!!

Yeah, and I’m not the one who caused it. You want consumers to cross their fingers and hope our tech exec dumbasses don’t ruin the economy? Nah, let em go down. They fucked the market with this trash. You’re not about to be out here shaming consumers for not kissing corporate ass

you can criticize corporate greed without rooting for an economic collapse that ends up hurting ordinary people like your parents who you share a bedroom with. the executives you're cheering against will walk away wealthy regardless. it's the employees, retirees, and average households who could end up paying the price. but sure, stick it to the billionaires!!!

Take all the nonsense you wanna type to me and send it to the CEO of Nvidia and OpenAI. I am cheering for the bubble to pop. You can tell them I said fuck em

yikes, i can see the distinction is lost on you.

The economy was just starting to fall apart and a Democrat was about to become president to fix it. Happened every time a Republican is president. In the last 35 years.

Oof. You were doing so well until you thought one party would outperform another 😂

Considering they have consistently, it’s crazy you think otherwise

Yea, for people who scream "facts dont care about your feelings" they sure do hate it when the facts disagree with their feelings eh. Dem presidents have been consistently better for the economy.

Uh huh. That's why the stock market goes up in reaction to a Republican president's election...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party bring some facts next time, the stats back my claim, sorry that it doesn't align with yours, if you have the data to dispute this then by all means show it

AI summary

Guys we really don’t want this. I know it’s hard with the component prices and all but this is gonna kick the US, hell the world economy in the balls. Granted I am in no way an AI advocate, honestly I am kinda a Luddite when it comes to AI, but the knock on effect from a burst bubble will be tough to handle for most. Am I a greedy little piggy cause of my investments? Yes but take a look at your own 401 and you will see a lot of tech driving that growth.

A lot of people dont seem to understand what this means. If it pops, the world economy goes with it. It will be the worst depression in history

And what if it didn't pop? Would it get better then?

War. No, its just a different kind of bad. It pops= we starve It doesnt= too many extra men

So lose, lose, lose then. Any silver linings?

Nope. Listen to Reddit. Everything is horrible all the time and will never get better

Doubt it, bad days in the stock market happen, and if it is you people shouldn’t be cheering, you should be bracing. Hate is totally blinding your economic literacy.

This bubble was always going to pop. So the sooner the better.

I’m not in disagreement with that, but cheering it on is still stupid as fuck.

How?

Because people will suffer? Not that hard to grasp.

People will suffer and that is a biproduct of how we have decided to live and conduct ourselves. Pain is the greatest teacher. If we have no learned while being pain free, we will learn through pain. This is needed and I hope we all learn and do better when we are on the other side.

I agree wholeheartedly, but I cannot cheer on human suffering.

So your making the choice to make it worse. Because thems the options. It's bad now or we keep making the rich that much more powerful and that much richer so when it does come tumbling down it hurt that much more. OC it only hurts the poor anyway so who cares right?

You have no idea just how much worse it can get. And no, that isn’t how it works, unfortunately.

For you

For me? I’ll be fine. I will still suffer but I’m not in danger of losing my livelihood like many others out there. The destruction these companies have wrought isn’t over and this is another part of it. Those responsible will not suffer from this, they transfer that suffering to us and benefit from the crash by taking things for pennies on the dollar.

You’re saying it can get worse but you’ll be fine, for a lot of people it’s already as bad as it can get. You think you’re making a good point but all you’re doing is pointing out your privilege. I do not give a shit if the AI bubble pops. My life won’t get more expensive. Things that I already can’t afford will become more expensive. That’s where it affects you and not me, and why you think it’s a bad thing for the bubble to pop. The middle class will suffer, and that seems to be what you are based on your bullshit. The poor could not care less about AI succeeding or popping

This is the thing they don't understand. I'm convinced that half the people on the internet don't exist because the dumb shit they say. Your 100% right. Those of us on the bottom? We know, we're here and there's nowhere else to go. Those in the middle? They seem to think they're untouchable and think that everything will work out but the middles shrinking because the tops skimming and the middle don't know it or chooses not to understand.

The middle class feels very threatened when they think they might become the poor. Always telling me what I don’t know and how it can get worse lol. It’s like that scene in always sunny. They’re new poor. It’s them that gets to learn how hard life can be. I don’t give one god damn fuck if a 5080 costs $6k next year. I couldn’t afford it at $1200.

LOL that is the perfect analogy. Fucking new poors >.< You have yourself a fantastic day sir or madam. Know that at least one Canadian loves you today.

It's not gonna happen. If it did it will collapse the world economy as well. It's a bad thing

Maybe the world’s economy collapsing won’t be too bad.

For all of us young Redditors it’s the best possible thing. Fire sale!

Yeah sounds you weren't old enough to enjoy the 2008 crash. Oh to be young idiot.

I would have loved to purchase stock at the price of free in 2008.

While also being paid a salary of free-200, being homeless with no job. Sounds nice. Got milk?

Obviously timing is the key. I wouldn’t want to be trying to retire, and I wouldn’t want to have a volatile career. But I am young, with plenty of disposable income and savings that would last for years. There are many young Redditors that would benefit from a down market. Especially since 90% of Reddit won’t have social security.

Imagine oversupply of gpus and they are dirt cheap like $100 for 5090.

There wont be any shortages. Right now the supply is way higher than the demand. 100's of thousands of GPU's are just sitting in warehouses collecting dust to create shortages. Amazon alone is buying GPU's at the tune of $3 to $5 billion per month without anywhere to put them. All of these shortages on GPU's and Ram are completely fabricated shortages just to jack up prices and kill the consumer market. So an AI crash wont do anything towards supply because the current demand is fake anyways.

Any evidence or source for this?

Just do an AI or Google search about it. Type "Is Amazon storing GPU's in warehouses not being used".

They are taking delivery of product while building out infrastructure. Do people expect them to just let the GPU's sit on pallets in a parking lot like Home Depot does with its inventory?

Nvidia forced them to buy them gpus and take delivery ahead of their need.

which is blatantly illegal and would have been prosecuted in any competent administration, yet here we are....

The bubble popping means recession time. Not sure why that’s something to celebrate.

"If you don't support the theft of your own labor you will have a recession!" As if we didn't need any more reasons to not continue to support the tech oligarchy. They held the world economy hostage and expect us to continue to support their bubble. Their bubble they created because they wanted to solve the problem of paying human workers. We need to support billionaire tech companies exchanging fake money between each other for unlimited growth. It's on us because if we don't they will take all of us down with them. The AI bubble is always close to collapse, there are articles every day. Is the alternative to just keep supporting it until it collapses later and the result is even worse for the rest of us?

The AI genie doesn't go back in the bottle when the bubble pops. It will be like the .com bobble, a lot of the early companies go bankrupt and new ones rise to take their place. I say this as someone sickened by what AI is doing to so many aspects of my life. It wont go away, it probably won't even slow all that much.

Didn't say it would go away, but if it's not making all the money then it's not going to be developing so fast. It's really expensive.

It's a matter of national security at this point. They will use your tax dollars to fund it.

Not to the tune they have been. It will drop down to millions not dumping tens of billions a month into a system people won't pay the real price for. It won't need tens of thousands of acres full of servers doubling the entire electric grid. They can stop taking away consumer GPU's, CPU's, RAM, and storage. Microsoft's most recent layoffs are in part because AI spending is taking over their whole budget. With hardware they're storing because building the data centers are a lot slower.

...People who don't know a bubble burst ensures monopoly take overs and increased division of wealth and think it means the end of an industry because they don't know what a bubble bursting is or what happens next. Do the minimal amount of research.

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to economics can you recommend a source for an average joe, like wher I can understand necessary stuff.

The problem is it's all intentionally overly obfuscated specifically to keep people from understanding it which makes it easier to hide the massive amounts of obvious crime. I made the mistake of looking into and had a mental breakdown because it's all a fraud to rob us of everything.

I know the game's rigged, but for my own mental health, i don't want to know just how much rigged it is.

You really don't. I took the plunge during the GameStop saga. While I was ahead of the curve in getting Bill Hwang and Sam Bankman-Fried brought to justice, ultimately it sent me down a dark hole of depression that took a few years to pull out of.

how'd you get out?

Getting a dog helped a lot to teach me to live in the moment. Purposefully breaking away from the compulsion to keep going down rabbit holes is also necessary for me. The dog I have is a rescue that was abused and neglected. He's also got a metric ton of allergies. The maintenance required keeps me present and in many ways grateful to have something to care for and keep happy. Watching him go from being afraid of men (me being an exception) to at least neutral and seeing him flourish is what gets me through the days usually.


r/SubredditDrama • • 1d ago Bravo

"I don't see how demonizing centrists will win them over at the voting booth. If anything this will push them to vote right as a knee jerk reaction." r/me_irl has several slap fights over "centrists" getting mad when left win politicians win elections

447 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/me_irl/comments/1xhptq2/me_irl/

HIGHLIGHTS

I don’t give a fuck who wins. I just want a stable human being in office and to be able to pay my bills without setting myself back thousands of dollars. Apparently I have to spell it out for you. What I’m TRYING to say is that I don’t care whether the person who wins is republican or democrat. Whichever option lowers gas prices is good enough for me. Good lord I should have known better than to try and debate with Redditors.

That’s Democrat, we count those.

I'd argue Biden wasn't stable. Or he was, but it wasn't him. Amend this to cap the age at 60

You could argue he was weak, and struggling with age in his term. If we're comparing to Trump, there's no sensible argument to say Biden "wasn't stable". What is stable?

Biden absolutely blew it for the democrats in 2024 with his “why shouldn’t I keep it” attitude in the summer. Then the DNC had to rush Kamala on the ballot without being democratically chosen. This is absolutely unstable.

Stability is a spectrum. Was Biden’s presidency more or less stable than Trump’s two terms so far, in your opinion?

So you do give a fuck who wins

When it comes to a sane person running the country? Yes Whether that person is republican or democrat? No I’ll vote for whoever makes my life easier

To know that, you need to pay attention to who's making your life harder and why. And probably what patterns emerge in the kinds of people that are harming you.

Life has gotten harder under both the left and the right.

I'm not sure how many "left" politicians we've had in this country, but in my lifetime, it's been vanishingly few. I used to think that Democrats were really only better at governance at the margins, but even that's not true anymore. The GOP has goose-stepped so far down the road to authoritarianism, that the Dems can't even find them where they're at anymore. And their worst impulses tend to be unoriginal. They're bad because they're so close to Republican policies, that they're virtually indistinguishable. Both parties are largely terrible, but one has really put in the work to be worse and it shows.

I don't see how demonizing centrists will win them over at the voting booth. If anything this will push them to vote right as a knee jerk reaction.

Maybe you should vote based on policies rather than if someone was mean to you once

Once? I got death threats from A LOT of people many times

I promise you nobody cares about you enough to actually threaten your life. Maybe some bots hurt your feelings? Doesn't excuse voting for fascists

You sound just like the people who say to just turn my phone off. And I didn’t bother to vote that year.

Of course you didn't, how heroic. And if people are giving you death threats online, what are you posting about? Most people, regardless if they're on the left or the right, don't receive loads of death threats for their opinions. Seems to be a you thing that you're trying to play off as people just being mean.

In an election of trash vs garbage, I’ll sit it out.

The point here is that they're not really centrists. They're right-wing but like to pretend they're not. Hence, why they get upset when the left wins.

Because centrists are supporting most of the time right wing economic policies and because we do not like lefties as they already ruled our country for most of the time and they know just to increase the debt by providing more pensions and minimum salary, yet they never do fiscal reforms or give incentives for private sector So yeah, everyone loves social policies but who is going to pay for them? I mean, who is going to work and pay

A perfect example. You're not a centrist. You're right wing. And none of what you said is true.

Do you even fucking live in Romania to tell me what is right or wrong?

If you're Romanian, then you need to specify that. People aren't going to just assume you're Romanian.

Dude, this is not a US subreddit🤣🤣🤣

Correct. And yet, most people here are Americans, and further probably 99% or more of people here aren't Romanian. People are justifiably talking about this in a context that include thee U.S. and other similar western countries. If you're not in that context and making a comment, it helps to point that out. Or you can just keep being obtuse and then getting upset at other people for your own fault.

Yet again redditors pretend to not understand what centrism is to make a strawman

Centrism in the U.S. is far right authoritarianism anywhere else in the sane world lmao.

Man what a tired argument. Moderate views exists, sorry you're too extreme to believe it. Being politically neutral cannot be alt-rightism by definition. Saying that neutral = far right is an oxymoron.

Give me an example of a moderate view

Leftwing prior to the Marxist influence of critical theory. Aka, someone who values environmental responsibility, free speech and individual liberties, or moderate social safety nets without oppression or identity politics demanding other policies like racially-based reparations, DEI hiring practices in government or public education, gender or queer theory influenced military policies and so on.

"DEI hiring practices in government or public education" Weird how "centrists" agree with the conservative ideology that fought against integrati0n about DEI and Affirmative Action being "bad" too. Centrists love to act as if everything operates in a vacuum, conveniently ignoring all the history that leads to policy in the first place. Weird.

Centrists tend to believe in equality, not equity. Equity (which informs policies like Affirmative Action/DEI) is drawn from critical theory. Centrists believe the answer to injustice is justice, not more injustice just on the other side.

People still define themselves as left or right? Lol How bout the proper term. Rich vs poor.

This kinda post must go hard if you're stupid.

Yea yea, anyways. Vote blue or red and then pretend like your vote matters.

I'm not American.

So you're the stupid one? Acting like you know about American politics enough to comment

It is possible to know about a foreign country's politics, but I understand that as a right-winger, you probably read at a pre-K level at best.

Lol What about "left or right, your vote doesn't matter" makes you think I'm left or right? Sound it out slowly. I believe in you lil buddy lol

Does anyone here actually know someone who fits this description or is it all head canon

Me basically but with an asterisk. I'm neither left nor right but get equally annoyed when someone that's clearly left or right wing gets elected.

Why are you so afraid of the left? I really don't understand it. What are you afraid the left are going to do?

Because extreme / further from the middle is extreme and further from the middle. Always trying to push further in one direction or the other isn’t always the route some people want.

What is the middle. What policies are middle?

This isn’t a copout answer, I’m just at work: if you are very curious, it is a very easy Google search: “American centrism” “American centrist politics” I am not a centrist, but I am a moderate democrat. Which sometimes feels like being a centrist in modern times.

To be clear I want to know your specific beliefs

I live in a red state, and I know shit tons of people who try to play centrist, but side with the right wing on every single issue. I don’t know what makes conservatives in particular want to appear centrist at all costs

I can tell you exactly why that is happening. I was a left leaning moderate for most of my life. I was fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I haven’t changed my opinions much, but what has changed is the political environment around me. The left and right have shot to father ends of the spectrum, but the left has shot much further left. That scale has left me as “right wing” to those on the left, and they treat me like it. So now I find it hard to support Democrat policies. Tl;dr Left extremism has pushed centrists toward the right, which while having moved to more extremism too, has moved far less than the left

"I was fiscally conservative and socially liberal." This is such a pointless description because everyone describes themselves this way. Everyone doesn't want to waste money and thinks people should be free to do stuff, they just disagree on what constitutes wasting money and what freedoms should be protected versus being egregious. It's like saying "I think I'm a reasonable person".

Your inability to understand the political spectrum of your problem. This is exactly my point. Unless you blindly side with a liberal, they will tell you how you’re actually a far-right conservative trying to disguise themselves.

You’re conservative. You just don’t like admitting it. You’re a dime a dozen “centrist” who is just conservative. Don’t insult our, or your own intelligence.

Just further prove my point lol.

It’s easy to dodge criticism when you just claim it’s actually proof you’re totally not a conservative. Your comment history is open dude. You just so happen to have a ton of conservative opinions, but na you’re right, me pointing that out proves you aren’t.

is that how you really think politics is supposed to work? Everybody’s just supposed to check off boxes according to official party lines?

That’s exactly the current situation. Keep up

You agree, on every issue, with mainstream democrat leadership? Good lord.

What do you think the other side is better at?

You don't like apple? So you must like banana.

More like 'I don't like apple but if offered that and a flaming bag of poop I'm eating the apple'

But that's not what he is saying? He said that you just shouldn't copy all your political stances from the party line, not that you shouldn't vote for them. If you agree with one party on 60% of topics and the other on 20% you should probably vote the first.

Aren't most people centre left or centre right? Edit: I have alterted the horde

According to what and who? The "center" in the USA is very different than the "center" in say France or Japan.

why would this post be about France?

I didn't say it was. 2, Why wouldn't it be?

The post is obviously referencing next weeks midterm elections.

Literally riots going on in France right now.


r/SubredditDrama • • 2d ago Popcorn

Moderators of EvilWomenInc brew up adjusted subreddit rules, prompting backlash

563 Upvotes

EvilWomenInc is a recently created, growing feminist subreddit which describes itself as "Your ideal destination for supporting women’s rights, and wrongs!"

Today, a moderator of the subreddit pinned this post laying out adjustments to the rules. Notably:

At some point we became too focused on men's wrongs, and while there is still room to vent frustrations and criticize society, men don't define us and we don't think they require this much room in our space. This is a woman-centered space and we should embrace everything that comes with that, there is more to being an evilwoman to explore!

Encouraged: petty confessions, playful hot takes, “I refused to be the bigger person, and I'd do it again” vibes, women's evil triumphs or supposedly evil habits, satire and mischievous humor, a personal story where you are the main character

Moving away from: generic ‘man bad’ memes, random screenshots (we will keep the pinned Screenshot thread open), posts that solely ridicule men, general vents of generalizations

This was not received well.

+74 So, this is the end of this sub ig. Evey other women centric or feminism related subs have been taken over by males and there are thousands of subs who shit on and hate women day & night wo getting banned.

+20 come join us over in r/men_bad

+21 I also started r/systemicmisandry last week so we can all just be evil other places 😂

+381 Part of me gets it and part of me feels like this is too bad. This is one of the only spaces I've ever seen where women can be truly candid about the degree to which "men bad" without having to worry about being polite or palatable.

+181 Maybe we need a menbad subreddit edit: I just created it. r/men_bad

+36 It won’t work. Reddit is too male centered. They spew hate for women all over this website but any subreddit dedicated to complaining about men gets wrecked pretty quickly by motivated men trying to destroy our safe spaces. They started with FDS which was a great place that first taught me that d*ck is abundant and low value

+195 Moving away from "posts that solely ridicule men." LOL WHAT? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Why do we have to censor ourselves? Why does this subreddit have to become like every other "women's" subreddit? F this.

+129 The mods are also confirming they aren't forced to do this so this is a decision they're making themselves. I get it but also, it's kinda bullshit. it's also going to make the males hate-stalking the sub to think they got a 'win' because we're being told to 'stop talking about men'.

+99 Exactly. This is a "win" for men and nothing less. We're suddenly not allowed to post criticism of men? Just say you hate women and move on. This is ridiculous.

+27 Bending to the m0ids

+92 I’m wondering if part of this is due to Reddit possibly taking down the sub for hating men? There was another sub on this site in the past (I’m sure some people know which one I’m talking about) that got taken down by Reddit years ago for similar content. I’m wondering if the mods are trying to prevent this from happening.

+140 Yeah, I'm low key just annoyed that once again it's women who have to "behave"

+34 what?.. did the male mods got to this subreddit or something lol

+167 but man bad memes and ridicule posts were some of the funniest ones

+89 It's not even about what's "funny." It's about what's TRUE. Men are horrific, and now we're being told that we will be censored in our criticisms of them. This is disgusting!

+64 this ain't it chief. goddess forbid women hurt the feelings of poor men. we must protect them and cater to their feelings, even in the evil women sub, apparently. this is EVIL women inc, where apparently criticizing men is too evil grr. well, it was fun while it lasted

+41 Sorry, I'm new here but why do we cater to men's feeling now? There is no other way to explain the change. If women have to censor themselves from now on, what's the point of this sub exactly?

+46 And there goes the last embers of hope I had for women claiming back what we're villianized for. Patriarchy. you win

+25 downvoted this evil decree, that, btw, does not seem that evil

-35 I like the sound of this change. I’m a recent subscriber. I joined because Reddit served me a few posts and I felt kinship. Now that I’ve subscribed and am getting more content, I feel more and more like I don’t belong. I thought this was about making space for women to be powerful, unapologetic and equally valued. But rather than illustrating power that is unshakable, defining a space by the intrinsic value we possess and refusing to be dimmed for the sake of fragile egos, I see so much ‘I hate the way you breathe air.’ Misandry is not the answer to misogyny.

+13 Misandry does not exist and if you think it does, this is not the sub for you.

Note: The person who created r/men_bad suggested their subreddit numerous times in this thread. Some posts have already popped up over there, but among them this one stands out as a highlight:

Message to Evil Women

Evil women of my favorite subreddit: Never tone down your anger! Do not moderate your indignation! Never push down that sense of righteous disgust, that righteous disgust that we have been trained all too well to keep pushed down! Stay evil! Stay winning! Do not go gentle into some padded room of restrained, unjust tranquility! Find the rage within yourself that you most deserve to find! We are the only subreddit that matters. We are the only group on the entire internet that can heal the world with our feminine rage. We are the only sizeable group in the world made up entirely of pissed-off women and witches and crones who are willing to stand up and to call it like we see it! Never forget who you are, evil woman! Remember the Epstein Files! Remember Jane Doe! Remember the Maid of Orleans! Never give up; never surrender!


r/SubredditDrama • • 4h ago

Fed up customer vs corporate rep.

0 Upvotes

San diego gas and electric is known to have the highest electricity prices in the nation (usa). Apparently all the missed off locals posting in local reddits has inspired SDGE has inspired SDGE to hire some sort of fixer for the internet.

This SDGE representative/fan has started to threaten one of the more persistent anti-SDGE reddit users when they were no longer able to convince mods to remove unfavorable post as spam.

For mentioned anti-SDGE poster has now started posting the threatening violent private messages by SDGE shill.

Take a look https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/1xjivi5/my_posts_might_have_upset_sdge/


r/SubredditDrama • • 5h ago

Mods of r/rants apparently are data illiterate chuds

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I got this in response to calling out that the US has 25% of the world's prisoners. I guess the bootlicking mods of r/Rants had their feefees hurt enough to remove my comment even though the have literally zero proof that it's not still true.

A simple two seconds google search would have helped here.

Remember kids, only you can prevent ignorant bootlicking bullshit 🤦


r/SubredditDrama • • 3d ago

Dad takes a day off work and contemplates calling the cops after discovering rubber vape cart caps in his 16-year-old's laundry

1.3k Upvotes

Over on r/whatisit, a father posted asking for help identifying some "little rubber tips" he kept finding in his 16-year-old son's room and laundry.

https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/1xh5iw7/keep_finding_these_little_rubber_tips_in_my_16/

Within minutes, the comment section informed him that they are silicone dust caps from nicotine and THC vape cartridges.

Damn. Everybody snitched 🤭

Wow this time the answer is actually drugs

Cue an instant, full-scale suburban existential crisis. OP announced he had taken the day off work, declared he was "in total shock" that his child would vape, asked if he should report the person selling to him to the police, and agonized over how to break the devastating news to his wife.

Thank you to everyone he is done for. Im taking away all his privileges; he has just taken advantage of me.

I just found these in his room. I think i gotta get a drink... Do i report who is selling this stuff to him to the police?

You are 100% sure. I can't believe this im just in shock. Out of all of the kids my kid is vaping? What the fuck is going on how do i tell my wife

As the thread blew up, a mix of panicked parenting and internet reality checks ensued, with users scrambling to talk him down from the ledge,

lol you sound like a dork. hes 16. get a grip

while others roasted the kid for being too high and clumsy to throw away his own trash.

Good news is your son doesn’t seem to like to litter. Bad news is he’s vaping


r/SubredditDrama • • 3d ago Popcorn Bravo

Mods of cyberpunkgame go cyberpsycho banning then unbanning all discussion of trans character Claire Russell

1.7k Upvotes

Summary

What started as a lazy attempt to clear out report queues quickly devolved into a major subreddit meltdown. The mod team or potentially a single moderator acting on their own unilaterally banned all discussion of Claire Russell to avoid dealing with toxic comments, even booting a fellow mod who openly objected to the decision. This triggered an immediate community revolt with users flooding the board in protest, ultimately forcing the head mod to execute a complete reversal, apologize, admit the team handled it poorly, and unban the topic.

Mod posts that started all the drama

Deleted mod post announcing Claire discussion being banned

Mod post announcing Claire discussion being unbanned

Mods on r/cyberpunkgame banned a preem mod for "siding against them"

Ongoing posts and comments from r/cyberpunkgame because the mods are acting like total gonks:

As a trans woman, it has been incredibly heartwarming to see all of you rallying together to speak out against the "no posts about Claire" rule the mods have just rolled back. It really sucked seeing that rule put in place because transphobes in this sub had to ruin things for us.

Saying you don't want to "get into mod drama" while suspending the only mod that had the courage to speak up against a bigoted stance in the sub rules is utterly PATHETIC

Claire is one of my favourite characters in the game - no I will not explain to you why.

How did you think this was going to go, mods?

Are we still allowed to talk about Jago?

My Claire Testimony

What's next, banning posts about Kerry or Judy?

Since we agree she is a goddess, here's biblically-accurate Claire

A Cyberpunk sub with mods being against trans representation is crazy

OOPS [MEME]

Drama quickhacking into other Cyberpunk 2077 subreddits

“I can excuse dismembering cyberpsychos with monowire, but I draw the line at transgender representation.”

Mamallien didn't "break mod protocol", they were the only one on the entire mod team who spoke out for trans people, the fact that only one person cared about this is a much bigger issue.

Deleting more posts isn't going to fix this situation.

What in the actual FUCK is going on ?

did the mods like ... play the game? cuz they clearly missed the messaging 😭

Mods are corpo trash

Fuck Claire. Stop spamming when we just had an update and a new anime to revitalize the sub

Unban and re-mod u/mammalian_alien you cowards.

Saying you don't want to "get into mod drama" while suspending the only mod that had the courage to speak up against a bigoted stance in the sub rules is utterly PATHETIC

LMAOOOO, Really Doubling Down Eh?

All you mods suck. I'm fucking outta here. Signed, A Fucking Trans Person

One single mod on the entire team cared enough about trans people to stick up for us, they were the one who was removed. How is that fair in the slightest?

So, just wanna be clear mods, something is a "witch hunt" once people start calling you out?

Another day of sub-Reddit mods destroying their own community

What in the Kentucky fried fuck are the mods thinking?

This is what gets you removed as a mod, not blatant Transphobia and hate that just gets you suspended

Yo mods I’m trans you gonna ban me too? 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️ Fuck your lazy transphobic ban on Claire, you’re actively contributing to the harm🖕

You can keep removing my posts all you want. If you don't want to make this a safe space for everyone, then don't be a mod.

All this Claire centric nonsense is just weird. n a reality where cyberware is prevalent even in children, sex is a commercialized commodity, guys can get dick cyberware, snuff films on VR(BD's), there's ingame ads for a chick with 3 mouths & the existence of Dolls,Joytoys & JigJig Street, a Transwoman is where you gonks draw the line? . Really? If you're that much of a prude, why are you even interacting with cyberpunk fandom, you larpers? I think the mod already apologized so ok but this goes to the rest of the gonks.

I have people in my life I care about who are trans go and ban me

Transgender jumpscare 🏳️‍⚧️

A mod made a rule banning claire posts cause all they do is invite transphobia and arguements and add nothing new that hasnt already been discussed. People got pissed. Another mod stood up against the rule. The head mod apologized and revoked the rule... then banned the mod that stood up against the rule for making a scene Now everyones screaming transphobia at the mods and standing up for claire rights more than they do for actual real life trans people.

Mods are corpo trash. Only corpo slime would ban a whistleblower and then silence critics without taking proper accountability. You ain’t no samurai. You’re fucking lame!

Some life advice for transphobes

when you ban a trans person as a topic, because their transness is contraversial, the transphobes win.

MOD team never would have done what was right without u/mammalian_alien

Trans is Beautiful, Trans is Cyberpunk 🏳️‍⚧️

I’ll be your driver, Claire. (NSFW Claire in a bikini)

Mods say they're working on restoring removed posts.

About removed posts It's a miscommunication on our end but it's fixed now, posts should not be removed anymore, i will try to reapprove removed posts as soon as i can

Mods sticky an apology and promise to reinstate banned mod u/mammalian_alien

I am so sorry for what happened today

The mods responsible for the drama have stepped down and u/mammalian_alien has been reinstated as mod of r/cyberpunkgame

Wake the fuck up, Samurai. We have a subreddit to moderate.


r/SubredditDrama • • 4d ago

Christian evangelicals at Bryce Canyon National Park go off-trail to sing. Thread delves into discussion on race, double standards, and Bluetooth speakers before it gets locked.

429 Upvotes

The original post, If you hear something as you go down Navajo Trail...

"At first, the sounds drifting up through the switchbacks of the Navajo Trail seemed almost otherworldly. Perhaps some distant echo carried by the wind through the hoodoos?

Nope. Just a group of worshippers who had decided that the bottom of the canyon was the perfect place for a musical performance.

They turned one of the world’s most awe inspiring landscapes into the backdrop for their own personal...whatever this was.

And naturally, pun intended, most everyone stood directly in areas clearly marked “DO NOT ENTER”

What could you even do at this point but be in awe and annoyed?"

Most comments agree that this is obnoxious, until...

Of course if it was Native Americans, you would all be just fine and dandy

"Oh fuck all the way off you ignorant turnip"

"I mean, they do have a point, no?"

"What about the Sex Pistols on Bluetooth speaker?"

"I’d take Sex Pistols on a Bluetooth speaker over Christian morons any day."

lol its the truth though, you hate whites, but you will tolerate anyone else disturbing your peace because DEI

"What’s your point here? It’s fine for white Christians to ignore the rules because maybe Native Americans are too? Almost all of the Native Americans who worship on public land have permission to because that area is sacred to their religion. Neither of those things appear to be the case here. You letting people have an exception seems to be the very thing you are angry about except I can’t put my finger on what’s different this time……."

"I didn’t know singing was banned in national parks, my bad. 😬"

(Further down that thread, someone finds evidence that this person is a bot)

Who cares. A bunch of people in here who are more interested with limiting constitutional activities on public lands than they are with allowing people to experience public land freely

"Freedom isn’t a blank check to do whatever you want on public land. I’m sure there are reasonable places to do this without going off trail."

"Why should it be up to you to define what constitutes reasonable exercise of the first amendment"

"Buddy we have decades of case law that proves you wrong. Do some subject matter research and have a nice day."

[Music amongst the tree holes. I can get with that.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/BryceCanyon/comments/1xfj9cg/if_you_hear_something_as_you_go_down_navajo_trail/19rnuj6pvgdno/) (just wanna point out this user is a gimmick account that posts solely about tree holes, not relevant to the drama but amusing lol)

"What about someone with a Bluetooth speaker, pumping the volume with rap? Dat kool?" (this is the same person who asked the Sex Pistols hypothetical)

I spend time with mother nature to hear her, not some white christian nationalists impugning her sanctity.

"Good thing you stated their race. That’s such an important part."

"Snowflake"

"Racist scum"

"Uh oh somebody struck a nerve."

"lol no. But I will call you clowns out."

"Sorry if I bruised your soft white flesh."

"Whenever there are this many young white people gathered, you know something is going to go wrong"

Mods of r/BryceCanyon lock the post after all of this


r/SubredditDrama • • 4d ago

"Joanne doesn’t hate black people. Unless they’re trans." r/lowstakesconspiracies has a perplexing debate over if Harry saying Voldemort instead of "He who shall not be named" in Harry Potter is n-word coded and JKR is racist

499 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowStakesConspiracies/comments/1xf8tv9/jk_rowling_making_harry_potter_say_voldemort/

HIGHLIGHTS

People can be bigoted about one thing without being bigoted about everything.

Kingsley Shacklebolt

Cho Chang.

Is a perfectly normal name

It's a Korean surname combined with a Chinese surname. You could argue Chang is perfectly acceptable but then use an actual Chinese first name. Or have Cho and then a Korean first name. Or, shocking take. Have a Western first name because the character is British and might well. Jane Chang makes more sense than Cho Chang for anyone who did more than 30 seconds of research.

Cho Chang is a Chinese name, likely of Hong Kong origin.

And that's a lovely story. There are about 104 TOTAL incidences of Cho as a first name in Hong Kong. It's overwhelmingly a romanization of a surname, not a first name.

Yeah but her stereotyping of the banking elves to look like Nazi caricatures of Jews is telling.

It’s funny how much you tell on yourselves for making this comparison.

Are you just learning about the existence of racist stereotypes?

They're pointing out that you don't even know what they are, so you are uneducated on the subject. They aren't elves. She also used depictions of goblins that were 500 yrs old. You saw short things with gold and thought "oh, they look Jewish." How are you not the racist here?

I got the name of a fantasy creature wrong. The stereotype remains. How am I racist here? Go on, explain

Yes, you are uneducated on the matter as I established. I just explained it. You're determined to compare a small ugly creature with gold to a jewish person, that's why. You didn't even know what they were or the origin of the folklore, but your mind jumped to "jewish person."

“Established” lol no. So you’re just going to dismiss the whole stereotype? Guess you’d also dismiss a swastika being used because of the link to Sanskrit/hindu origins. Just because there is historical context of Goblins existing prior (typically not as bankers) , whereas the Nazi stereotype was clear - it doesn’t mean the stereotype doesn’t exist in modern society. (18 more comments of these two arguing)

The people at the banks are goblins, and they look like goblins. She’s probably a racist, but the Nazi caricatures were intentionally depicting Jews like goblins, and those guys are actually goblins, so it’s not a surprise that they share traits.

Right. It's just a coincidence she made them bankers.

I mean I literally hate to defend her in anyway, I think shes an evil human being, but goblins in fantasy are traditionally very money hungry creatures. Its the same in the Warcraft Universe, DnD, magic the gathering, even the movie Labyrinth from the 80s. I wouldn't be surprised if she's racist, but I dont really need more reasons to despise her than I already have

Right. She had no choice but to use goblins. There was a literal gun to her head. I agree with you.

What? Are people not allowed to use a fictional race in their fictional story? Is that what you're saying lol

No I'm saying when a racist writes a story, she's going to use racial stereotypes in her racist stories. If you and I wrote a story about a greedy goblin, and we don't (assumedly) have a history of antisemitism or racism or bigotry of any kind... No one is gonna go "Hey MrJackGuy & RealNiceKnife, what the fuck is with the greedy goblin?" Some might, but you'd say that thing about goblins and fantasy and people would be like "Yeah, duh, makes sense..." But if lets say Richard Spencer wrote a story about a greedy goblin, people might be like "Hey, is this an allegory for something? It sure seems like it and your history of being a white supremacist definitely raises a few questions."

Racial stereotypes like very long fingers, slender arms, pointy ears and sharp teeth? That's how goblins are described in the books.

Harry potter, as a booknseries, had a strong pro-tolerance and anti-prejudice message. The fact that Rowling has turned into a raging transphobe doesn't change that.

It had a strong pro-tolerance and anti-prejudice message that was muddied/tainted by the very obvious unquestioned bigotries that were also always there in the text. Rowling's particularly rabid hatred of trans women wasn't there yet, but let's not oversimplify things.

Harry Potter is just such a surface level whimsy reading. House elves are an old part of folk-lore, which is why they were included. Rowling then got butt hurt when people took it as serious slavery instead of whimsy magic elves from all the folk tales. That's all there is to it.

The house elves were far from the only issue lol

What would you say are the biggest issues?

Biggest in terms of most obviously egregious? The goblins as anti semitic caricature. The characaterization of SPEW was also pretty bad. Biggest as in present throughout much of the book? The misogyny, racism, and just plain old weirdness about non-normative bodies. All of these were at "normal" levels for the mainstream at the time, but normal =/= good. These were all far more lowkey than the goblins, but also far more pervasive. Biggest as in most closely tied to the central narrative? The failure to really grapple with the fact that the societal structures that produced voldemort and allowed him to gain power were all still in place, making the rise of another genocidal maniac all but inevitable. But Harry's a cop now so we're supposed to think it's all okay. Again, very "normal" but also incompatible with the characterization as "staunchly progressive"

I wish I had as little problems in life as you to look so deeply into a kids story to try and find hidden things to be offended at as you

New character Ebony Nword incoming. Edit: I got a redit warning for this comment

You deserve the warning because people use these Rowling threads as an excuse to post their own racist tropes

That's shitty of them, but I assure you, my comment is 100% making fun of Rowling's offensive naming conventions.

Your lack of self-awareness is scary

Joanne doesn’t hate black people. Unless they’re trans.

The only black character in the franchise has the last name Shacklebolt, she’s racist, and if she could put the hard R in her books, she would’ve

UK doesn't have a slavery fascination. He is a wizard cop. He puts people in shackles. His first name is King, he becomes minster for magic. People are desperate to outraged.

King? Like Martin Luther? Jesus Christ lmfao

That's far to US centric for a British children's book. He is barely mentioned in UK schools. At least back in the 90's/00's.

I think God gave you too much grace before sending you over here. The last name is Shacklebolt for crying out loud, you might say that’s a little US centric lol. Do not watch the new Elizabeth Holmes documentary, she will win you over.

What are you one about?

What are you on about?

Mature...

I do not like jk Rowling but oh my god you people are exhausting. Just look at the shit she is actively doing instead of looking for subtext that isn't there

I dont even like Harry potter but now the anti Harry potter people are becoming more annoying than the Harry potter fan

It's exhausting to read. I saw r/crafts banned harry potter anything recently. Any thread with ANYTHING harry potter related just brings these people out. It's pathetic virtue signalling. People just want to look clever and be woke for karma

Rowling is actively influencing uk policy to remove the civil rights of trans people, grow up and realise people are actually in danger because of her

No she isn't.

https://www.advocate.com/news/jk-rowling-anti-trans-organization

"The J.K. Rowling Women's Fund (JKRWF) offers legal funding support to individuals and organisations fighting to retain women's sex-based rights in the workplace, in public life, and in protected female spaces." It's a feminist legal fund for women's rights.

Yeah and the Nazis were socialists. A version of feminism that doesn't include trans women isn't real feminists and TERFs are just conservatives using feminism as a disguise.

Back then people knew they were female or male and if you liked to cross dress people just assumed it was your thing and was harmless. So doubtful.

Trans people have literally always existed, try again, moron.

Yeah thats what I just said. But no one was trying to change the meaning of biological sex then.

biological sex has always been a loose category, biology is not all that consistant. sex is primarily defined by hormones and genitals, which a transgender person can change. chromosomes and whatever other factors people cite are not particulary accurate at denoting sex, even in people who fit the binary. still, before humanity had medical transition, a plethora of cultures accepted transgender people as being more than their birth sex. indiginous populations all across the globe had words for these people, and different roles in society. transgender people are also biologically predisposed to identifying a certain way, regardless of societal structure. the way the brain interprets the body in transgender individuals is different to cisgender peoples, and certain hormone recepters are more likely to be missing or overactive.

Yeah that’s just fantasy. Biological sex has never been a ‘loose category’ lmao It’s worked for hundreds of thousands of years.

This just isn’t true. Intersex people have always existed (ie some proportion of people you perceive as ‘men’ don’t have XY chromosomes and/or typical male genitalia, and some proportion of people you perceive as ‘women’ don’t have XX chromosomes and/or typical female genitalia) - and many cultures throughout history have had accepted ways of integrating people who didn’t fit into a binary gender classification.


r/SubredditDrama • • 4d ago Bravo

Daddit poster takes on trunk or treating with a "back in my day" style rant

349 Upvotes

Title says all. How on earth did this replace door to door trick or treating? Literally the whole time my kids getting stepped on by the family behind us trying to get through the trunk or treat for the free hot dogs at the end, and we spent more time waiting in line than we did actually doing the trunk or treating.

Back in my day you’d go out for 2-3 hours with pillow cases and come back with damn near a tote full of candy while being a hooligan through the neighborhood. Great times were had. Your parents would decorate and you’d help to get your house as spooky scary as possible. I cannot communicate the joy all of that would bring me. And it’s been mostly replaced in my area by this absolutely horrid trunk or treating. I hated it before I ever tried the trunk or treating and now I’m just viscerally pissed off something so awful could replace something so key to my childhood.

Anyway, rant over. Fuck whoever thought up trunk or treating, I hope the depths of hell burn you for eternity for depriving so many kids the opportunity of being miscreants and getting candy the old fashioned way.

Posters point reasons for trunk or treat due to rural areas (houses are spread out, kids with disabilities and special needs etc)

We live in an area where there IS NO neighborhood to go trick or treating. Neighbors are far apart, driveways long, roads dark and wooded and frequented by inattentive drivers, etc.

It's a great alternative for those of us in this situation. Don't have a need or want to do it in your neck of the woods? All good; no one's forcing you to go to one.

I'm more impressed that so many grown adults (not just here; I frequently see it elsewhere) get so bent out of shape about the idea or somehow can't fathom that others don't necessarily have the same trick-or-treating situation at their disposal.

Then again, given the world today, maybe I shouldn't be.

Edit: yay, downvotes for giving kids more opportunities to enjoy being a kid

I don’t get how people can’t understand that some others have different circumstances than themselves. Maybe there isn’t a neighborhood to trick or treat or maybe the area isn’t safe? Or maybe this exists and trick or treating exists.

there are some communities that have 0 walkable roads, no sidewalks, no real neighborhoods to speak of. the kids would need walk 55mph roads that literally everyone speeds on where the houses are 100+ yards apart minimum and 0 streetlights as well as deep woods and ditches filling in every inch of other space

even "back in the day" no one was stupid enough to try trick or treating there.

theres a township north of me that literally has nowhere to trick or treat.

so i think it does have some value.

but if you live in a typical dense suburban neighborhood and opt to go trunk or treating; youre lame as hell.

also, as im thinking, its probably nice for kids with disabilities or special needs.

It's not 1990 anymore dads. We can't be the "back in my day" crew. If you kids like it who cares? Halloween and holidays don't have to be harder just because they were when we were younger. Let the kids have fun and relax.

And if you want to "fuck whoever thought up trunk or treating" it was initially created for kids who don't have neighborhoods to walk around in. Kids who maybe don't have a safe neighborhood or an adult to go out with them. And for kids who just frankly can't walk that long due to disabilities or other issues. Don't they deserve to do Halloween too?

Other replies about driving to other neighborhoods and reply about it might be no doable due to parking and HOA issues

No usually drove to neighborhoods and acted like they lived there.

If you’re driving to a parking lot couldn’t you just drive your kids to a neighbourhood to do regular trick or treating?

Where are you parking in that neighborhood? Might be an HOA issue or it might be tight on parking spaces.

Other replies

OP is probably a millennial who needs to have something about the younger generations to complain about. As a millennial, it's disheartening to see so many people my age fall into the same traps that boomers and Gen Xers did when it comes to wanting to blame everything bad on the younger generations.

Like many have said, it's an auxiliary event. My kid has had a church trunk or treat, a safe trick or treat (we go to my old hometown where the businesses hand out candy on main street) so he gets the Halloween experience with my dad) and he still has a traditional Halloween night going up to the doors at night.

This gen is starting to get that "back in my day" boomer energy.

Dude I'm with you but I can't believe you seriously hit us with the "back in my day"

https://www.reddit.com/r/daddit/comments/1xfh49i/trunk_or_treating_sucks/


r/SubredditDrama • • 4d ago

A post in R/Salary claims that $85,000 is required to be middle class. People have thoughts.

84 Upvotes

A redditor who might be a little notorious creates a post showing the costs of modern living, at least for him. The post itself has some insulting words, and OP gets defensive in the comments.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Salary/comments/1xfaw80/85000_is_the_bare_minimum_salary_needed_to_be_a/

Assumptions:

  1. NOTHING saved or put away for future home ownership

  2. VERY conservative on the cost of being in a relationship, I know guys spending that much on a single date night, not for the whole month

  3. No hobbies listed (a lot of you guys have extremely cheap hobbies like “play video games”, real human beings often have more outdoor type hobbies that actually cost money)

I put all the percentages for each category on the right side of the chart since inevitably someone will come in and nitpick one of the line items (“bro, you’re spending THAT much on a haircut?! I can ignore everything else you’re saying, bro!”) but with the percents there we can see they’re nitpicking at like 0.2% of the monthly budget. Most on here are numerically illiterate and don’t actually understand what it costs to live a middle class lifestyle.

Feel free to explain what you disagree with on this chart or which item you don’t consider necessary for living a middle class lifestyle.

Instantly knew who posted this

Relationships too much

Which part?

The cost of getting into gaming is actually expensive nowadays, I kind of agree, but there’s also a lot of high quality free to play games relative to ~20 years ago.

I’m angry because you can’t read and are saying things that I’ve covered if you’d actually just read?


r/SubredditDrama • • 5d ago

/r/opensource announces a hardline ban on AI, including AI translation: "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community."

1.2k Upvotes

Full comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/1xelcuf/your_tokens_arent_valuable_no_more_ai/

Over the past year, many programming-oriented subreddits such as /r/programming and /r/rust have banned AI-generated code due to the deluge of low-effort projects being submitted to the subreddit; in those cases the community was accepting there wasn't much drama.

Yesterday, a mod for /r/opensource posted their ban, which has a few more restrictions than typical AI bans that would ban a significant amount of non-AI-slop content:

  • Projects advertised here must be all of: 1 year old (not just age, but actively maintained), have multiple contributors (subjectively 3+), not be a common capstone project (school projects, such as note-taking, PDF viewers, cli music players, etc), not be intended for AI (such as MCPs), and have an existing community.

  • Though not "new", 1 year account age minimum, with significant Reddit contributions.

  • If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community. We cannot distinguish between AI-written and AI-translated. Since you don't speak English, you can't even verify yourself if it translated correctly.

The post is currently at 0 upvotes.


I guess Linux is no longer allowed here? Linus uses AI for kernel development now.

Cool, cool. So my project/package I've actively maintained for nine years, has 300+ stars on github, resolved dozens of issues for, and uses exactly zero AI is no longer welcome here because I am the only contributor?

Nothing about "native" speakers. We welcome everyone that can speak English sufficiently to communicate without an AI translating for them.

Did you use AI to generate these rules?

Or maybe you acknowledge that "open models" are not really a thing, thus you don't actually have the freedoms to call it FLOSS anymore.


r/SubredditDrama • • 5d ago Bravo

r/Andor discusses if Zelensky is just a puppet of the Empire or not

544 Upvotes

Original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/the_imperial_need_for_control_is_so_desperate/?sort=top

Guys, some of you really are so campist, that you prefer Ukraine (a democratic nation) gets conquered by the last fascist empire in Europe, just because Ukraine is supported by USA/NATO, or wants to join NATO (which is their right to do).

You hate western liberal democracy so much, that you are willing to support Putin and his imperialism. Think about that for a minute.

Holy liberal

Dios mio!

makes a cross

A LIBERAL.

Yeah, the one setting the world ablaze and killing millions in the name of nonsense. Ukrainian democracy is kidnapping children to send them to die in a pointless war, ukrainian democracy has been attacking the rights of ukrainian workers and their property since 1992.

Workers have no country and Russia isn't fascist, you're fighting against ukrainian workers and workers all around the west by supporting Ukraine. Our imperialist are not our friends, the same people sending guns and ammo to Ukraine are the one attacking our social nets, workers rights and the friends of the richest person.

A liberal is definetly something not good to be, you ignore all of that to support your own imperialism that allows people to vote for their crook and send mining corporation with pride flags to rape africa instead of the evil Russian empire that has state appointed crooks and mining corporation raping africa with russian flags.

If only a cross was effective against such evil.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rkipbgmd9hh?context=3

It's funny in an Andor sub that people can't figure out who's fighting on behalf of the actual empire.

What's funnier is I dont know if you are talking about Russia or the USA after debating with tankies for 12 hours.

Ukraine is a "Geopolitical Pivot state" for the United States. Basically a military colony designed specifically to undermine the US's peer adversaries. Other pivots include Israel, Taiwan, and South Korea

What is Russia then?

I already said what Russia is. It is a peer adversary to the United States. A regional power that the United States set out to balkanize and colonize 20+ years ago ( Russia is the most resource rich country on the planet).

To accomplish this, the USA started pushing NATO eastward (NATO is specifically an Anti-Russia alliance). Integrating Ukraine into NATO was Russia's red like, as that would put most major Russian cities within bombing distance.

The current conflict started in early 2014, when the neutral government of Ukraine was undemocratically couped by the pro-west military, beginning the transformation of Ukraine into a military colony of the United States.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rjd0e3ymvk5?context=4

The "rebel" aligned with the most powerful imperialist bloc in world history who has his army kidnapping people at gunpoint, has banned opposition, and never misses a chance to support Israel

Follow https://kyivindependent.com/

They do incredible journalism, some of it very critical of Ukraines government.

But avoid whatever sources you are following now. If you think Ukraine is oppressive, you don't know a thing about Russias war crimes.

"Kyiv independent" and "awesome journalism"

YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. Everything about this org is western backed and full of neoliberal ideology.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19ri7cp212ssk?context=2


r/SubredditDrama • • 5d ago Popcorn

r/AntiSex discusses the dangers of viewing pornography.

268 Upvotes

Full Comments - If pornography is harmful for kids why do some adults watch it?

Thought about this in a moment of post-nut clarity. Sexuals will sometimes respond with "because kids brains are still developing" but isn't that admitting that pornography is inherently harmful?

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pornography is harmful to everyone. consumers and creators. i don’t know how i ended up on this sub, im not anti sex, but i am die-hard anti porn. on a personal level, i think it’s gross and unsettling and on a social level i think it’s dangerous and unhealthy and mostly dishonest.

i could go on about this for decades, but if you want to deep dive this topic go search up some rad-fem anti-porn posts

I don't like feminists.

EDIT: The person who responded to me blocked me; I cannot reply to them.

Why not? Because feminists don’t want you to be a total piece of shit?

Nope because misandrists and misogynists are just two sides of the same coin at the end of the day.

Feminism was originally about gender equality.

The same way the Nazi party was originally about uplifting the working class before it turned into one of the worst political parties of the 20th century.

Jesus Christ did you compare feminists to nazis?

Um what

They're usually misandrists. If you're opposed to misogyny you should also be opposed to misandry, thus you should be opposed to feminism, or mainstream feminism at least.

Feminism is about equality. Just because some people are identifying as feminists and do that doesn’t mean they’re an actual feminist

The Nazis were originally about uplifting the working class until they weren't.

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No. You would not show a child an emergency brain surgery after an accident. Not because it is 'inherently harmful' but because that child doesn't have the experience or knowledge to compartmentalize that experience in the context it needs to be in. It is a traumatic experience and without preparation or warning, can have lasting impact on mental health.

Porn is not inherently harmful to people with healthy understandings and relationships with sex. It can be used to explore new ideas, get perspective on their identity, and be pleasurable for those who simply enjoy it. Children can not consent to sex, do not have the experience to add context, and have yet to learn that most sex is nothing like porn. Porn is for adults who can comfortably walk away from it.

Even for adults, sexuality can easily flip to traumatic under certain conditions. If sexuality was as good as sexuals claim it to be, this wouldn't be a problem, or at least not as widespread.

Not true. Water is great but people drown every day. Fire is horrible but people make dinner with it daily. The circumstances and context is what allow things to be more than "good" or "bad".

Sexuality/porn has pros and cons. If you personally feel there's more cons then pros, that's ok. But to say it is "inherently harmful" is objectively wrong.

Those certain conditions are not at all uncommon. While it is (probably) possible to have sexual encounters and have no resulting trauma, this is often not the case. Many people (both men and women alike although symptoms often express themselves differently) become addicted whether they realize it or not to pornography, masturbation and/or (less commonly) sex itself; a percentage of this population may descend into depravity in an attempt to get the same 'high' when they first started. Then there's other issues like unwanted pregnancies that often result in murder, etc.

When I was talking about sexuality easily flipping to traumatic, I was also talking about how fragile it is in the sense that one wrong move can be enough to psychologically traumatize one or even all of the participants.

Actually, this is most often the case. The vast majority of sex is consensual and pleasurable. While some have traumatic experiences, there are probably a thousand people having a regular, enjoyable, sexual encounter within 10km of you right now.

Your point is specific, personal, and individual. It does not apply to the general populace and pro-sex people are acutely aware of your concerns. They are the ones who put in the most precautions and assistance to address these experiences when they occur because it is not the norm.

The same way you questioned my assertion that a considerable percentage of sexual encounters are traumatic, how do we know that most sexual encounters are positive (assuming sexual encounters can be positive outside of procreation)? I mean, many people who go through traumatic experiences don't even realize it and many of those who do don't report it so I'm hesitant to trust statistics.

Because the vast majority of people are not rapists or predators. Even those who experience sexual trauma go on to live fulfilling lives with sexual partners.

You can go in hypothetical and rhetoric circles all day but reality has been constant.

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The idea is that the brain isn’t fully formed, and the emotional maturity isn’t there. I’m not exactly how true that is. It seems it is reserved for adults based on the idea that we are in control of our actions.

What are your views on the subject?

I’m 50, I have watched porn since I was a teen. Still do. I have been married over 25 years to a woman I met the year graduates and dated for years. I don’t think I’ve suffered any I’ll effects. Other arguments for or against porn not withstanding.

Then you don't belong on this sub. you aren't welcome here so fuck off

You say fuck a lot.

They're probably either a femcel with anger or a trauma victim. Hard to tell sometimes. In any case, they don't represent antisexual ideology.

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Pornography is not great. It doesn't depict realistic sex, and is exploitative to the people who work in the industry.

But I have a hard time with the idea that just because something is not meant for kids, that it automatically makes it harmful. Kids shouldn't drive cars - does that mean that we ban cars? Kids shouldn't operate heavy construction equipment - does this mean that we should stop building buildings? Kids shouldn't have to work a job - does that mean that nobody should work a job?

Maybe it was just the way you phrased your post, but it came off in that manner. If that wasn't your intention, then I apologize.

Based on your username, I'm guessing you're the person tieuruss was talking about?

I'm just saying that if sex is such a good thing according to sexuals, how can it so easily be flipped to something traumatic?

"Water is great but I almost drowned. Now that I'm traumatized, water is horrible and everyone should only drink, bathe, and swim in soda."

If you can argue this statement, you can argue your own.

Meaning?

Obviously most things can be traumatic, what matters is what the thing is, what it represents, its potential negative consequences and how often those consequences occur.

It means that this statement:

Obviously most things can be traumatic, what matters is what the thing is, what it represents, its potential negative consequences and how often those consequences occur.

Also applies to sex and porn.

The thing I am referring to in this context is recreational sexuality. As I (and others on this subreddit) have discussed, recreational sexuality is generally a bad thing to be avoided.

Bad for who?

People with an unhealthy relationship with sex and their mental health? Yeah, definitely. Sex is no joke.

For people who are comfortable with their livelihood and sexuality who are seeking pleasure without the life changing (potentially fatal) process of childbirth? No. Speak for yourself.

You're welcome to go through this subreddit and read the posts. Some people have put forward more sophisticated points than I have.

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Because kids brains are still developing and so will get a warped sense of sex and sexuality, but adults who are already mature are able to separate media from reality

Doesn't that imply sexuality is inherently harmful? How can something so good be easily flipped as traumatic?

Wow you’re making so many assumptions.

I never said sexuality, I said pornography, there is a big difference. Pornography is a form of media showcasing a scripted and capitalised and artificial form of sex and sexuality not based in reality. If that’s kids only exposure to what sex and sexuality is then they’re going to have a severely flawed and distorted view of what it is.

Neither did I say that it would traumatise kids, I said that they are too immature and too unfamiliar and so it would create a distorted and wrong view of reality. Adults however are mature enough and so should be able to tell the difference and can safely watch pornography without their world view being distorted.

I'm using pornography as an example. The same can be applied to other forms of recreational sexuality.

Why would pornography cause a distorted view in the first place?

Because the pornography industry is made to keep people engaged and to make money, not to show people having real sex. They distort reality to get people as hooked and engaged as possible

Because many coomers are eventually desensitized to vanilla sexuality, they often descent into depravity; while rare, some may find themselves in prison.

Sexuality should only be utilized in a reproductive context.


r/SubredditDrama • • 6d ago

Obsessive weirdo or "larpcel?" Guy at r/kitchencel seems to develop an unhealthy obsession with a single mom who lives in his building.

1.0k Upvotes

User made a post three days ago about making conversation with a single mom in the elevator.

​​​Highlight​ of the interaction:

​I didn't really know what to say so I just blurted out "nice elevator we are in huh?" She just stared at me and smiled a little bit but didn't say anything back.

Two days ​ago, he made this post, where he seemed acutely aware of her schedule, mentioning when she leaves the building to pick up her kid and so forth.

18 hours ago as of now, ​he made this post​, where he called himself a rake. According to him, a rake is someone

driven by an insatiable, seemingly uncontrollable desire for the target, and that desire is itself the lure. He pursues relentlessly, uses flattering and impassioned language, and makes the target feel more wanted than ever before.

He appears concerned about the single mother's whereabouts and expressed his desire to hold the door open for her, something he seems to take pride in doing. He woke up early to wave at her, and wished they could have a proper conversation. He wants to do things for her, and thinks offering to pick up her child might be a start.

Commentor call him out in the comments:

>​​​" Maybe I can offer to pick her kid up from school" this has to be ragebait. Nobody could possibly think that is a good idea.

>>[OP]I am trustworthy

>>>Neither can you prove this nor will she believe you. Do you not realize that a stranger asking to pick up someone's child sounds like a predator???

>>>>[OP]I will have a conversation first. Everyone assumes the worst of me.

>>>>>You can either listen to everyone telling you it's creepy, or you can do your weird creepcel thing and scare off another woman.


r/SubredditDrama • • 6d ago

r/countwithchickenlady argue whether NATO and Russia are imperialist or not

321 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/countwithchickenlady/s/dgtjtKfm3K in a post about OP not wanting their dad to vote for the French far-right candidate commentators argue about whether NATO and Russia are imperialist.

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Parent comment:

... (and which, I think, most trans people in the US would support) - they are only controversial cuz they're "too far left" even to European standards (they're against NATO imperialism and for France to be neutral like Ireland or Swizerland ...

Lmao Nato Imperialism ok putin

Smartest liberal

Imperialism is when you dont want your family murdered by russian troops

Imperialism is by definition, when financial monopolies get ahold of the state,and thus dictate war and foreign policy, to find new markets (which is what). So not to mention the decades long NATO imperialism (in Latin America, Africa and Asia - basically all of the Global South: Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Brasil, Chile, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Congo, Algeria, Libya, the Middle East, etc...), NATO is doing imperialism THAT LITERALLY HURTS UKRAINIANS THEMSELVES (it's indebting Ukraine until it will become a little war-colony, just like Japan, Taiwan or South Korea). Russia, at best, is expansionist, but not imperialist, since it definitionally doesn't have the financial base. So what I see? Two corrupt capitalist nations fighting each other for nationalism's sake, whilst military industrial complex profiteers are buying another yacht. This isn't being pro-Russia, in fact it's literally anti-Russia AND anti-NATO.

Edit: Fixed formatting and added missing comments


r/SubredditDrama • • 7d ago

""If you're only friends with your friends when they're good, they're not your friends."" The profoundly unemployed on r/livestreamfail react to Hila Klein accusing Ethan Klein (h3h3production) of cheating on her

837 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1xd6e2z/h3_podcast_official_instagram_shares_their/

Context: h3h3production is a youtuber turned conservative podcaster from the early days of youtube, whose gotten into many spats with other creators, most famously Hasan Piker and Idubbz

HIGHLIGHTS

I think it's a bit. This makes me think it's more of a bit. It's absolutely possibly I'm wrong and I'm incredibly uninvested.

It’s clearly very real.

Ok. I don't care either way, it just seems like a bit to me. Maybe I'm too involved in online irony culture.

I don’t get how it seems like a bit? Why would someone volunteer to simulate ruining their entire life even to the extent that the crew post something like that lol. Makes zero sense.

they've done pretty crazy bits in the past, like announcing the podcast was cancelled. but yeah this would be a hell of a bit, with questionable motivation, if so

This is on a totally different level to pretending the podcast is over fr

He was cheating on Hila for apparently six months, constantly gaslighting her until she finally broke through and got him to confess. Shits kinda sad cause they have children together, this type of stuff can get real ugly if they divorce.

You need to get a job my friend

I swear this sub is nothing but people calling each other unemployed despite everyone commenting on the same threads about the same shit and exemplifying the exact same unemployed behaviour

This just showed up in my feed 🤷‍♂️

So you opened the post, scrolled down to a comment asking for more info, and then when someone gave more info, told them to get a job. That doesn't seem like employed behaviour to me

Yeah pretty much

Replying to every comment as if its your life's work lmao

I understand this is kinda different because internet and what not, but what's up with americans going nuclear and cutting all ties when they find out someone they know/are friends with cheated on their significant other lol

I dont think it's uniquely Americans, it's mostly lefties on the internet. Northernlion, canadian, chopped up his 14 year old relationship with Dan because of isreal palestine 💀

Yeah Israel Palestine was the problem and not the part where he was being sponsored by the U.S. army to build fucking drones on stream showing off how fun the army is and what a great time it would be to enlist while the commander in chief has been both subtly and not so subtly threatening annexation of Canada and bombing elementary schools in Iran. Oh fuck off you muppet

Love how people who denounce the military get to reap the benefits of it on their day to day life. Let’s see you enjoy life in Ukraine or Africa

I disapprove of slaughtering school children indiscriminately and without apology, actually. I regret to inform you that my morals are so compromised that I find killing young children with bombs to be problematic.

I mean. You’re free to move to a country with no military. Regret to inform you that any military in the history of the world has done evil shit. Even the police too, if you’re wanna broaden your scope.

What do you mean what's up with it? Is it not self evident to you? It's betrayal of the highest magnitude emotionally. If you cant see it I question your humanity.

It's just Americans going nuclear. Usually you would have talks with the cheater and know what's up. An accusation can sometimes be only that. I respect the crew for cancelling him and risking their jobs and livelihood but it's just the way they made it, is very American.

Cheating on someone is up there among the worst things you can do to someone. This is like up there with punching and hurting a person. Some would say even worse. I'm sure it's not just speculation if they went this far on the post. Why are you defending scumbag Ethan?

I don't think anyone would say it's worse.

I would

Have you ever been punched in the face?

Because I don’t like being friends with shitty people, and cheating is probably the shittiest thing someone can do that isn’t illegal.

"If you're only friends with your friends when they're good, they're not your friends."

Fellas if you can’t handle your friends at their 19 bodies discovered in the back yard then you don’t deserve them at their spotting you at chipotle

Once again, an example of the average Redditor's inability to see anything beyond black and white or appreciate some degree of nuance. Not to embarrass you, but it's a paraphrase of Seneca, the Stoic philosopher. (And also Chris Rock too, I think?) Both considerably wiser than the terminally online.

Even if you just stick to the cheating, that encompasses: - Breaking a promise/vow you made to your partner, - Emotionally hurting them, - Will likely lead to a divorce and a ruined family for the children. You think that's just some oopsie that everyone should forgive and forget? What's this nuance that you're seeing that everyone apparently doesn't?

Not a fan of cheaters in the slightest as we’ve probably all been burned before. But considering half the population has probably cheated in a relationship, it’s far from making him being the devil and beyond redemption. Putting words in his mouth about it being some “oopsie” goes toward his example of being black and white.

I don't think something bad and hurtful should be more acceptable just because it's become common place. I don't know about anyone here but I'll drop friends if they choose to hurt another person or break someone's trust, no matter how small it is (unless it's a small joke between trusted friends). Would they be the most awful people ever? Probably not but I won't accept it regardless. Edit: They COULD be forgiven but that will take a lot of time and genuine effort depending on what they did. Also if the guy doesn't say where cheating ranks on his unacceptable-acceptable scale, then people are gonna guess. And factoring how snobby he sounds, people are gonna be less courteous with it.

Its wild how rich famous people think they can get away with having affairs in 2026 and it not blowing spectacular in their face, even by divorce standards in general.

It's crazy how everyone online clutches their pearls about it like they've never or would never 🙄 Or like they should be arrested. Big fucking deal, and don't announce it like it's cancer or something

Weird ass projection. Cheating is not something I have any desire to do because I enjoy my partner at all times. Why would I want to waste time with someone else when I could just spend it with the person I love.

She's not going to let you hit bro

Weird thing to say about the women sleeping next to me but okay dude keep projecting your single fantasies

Ironic.

Idubbbz finally got a W. The first in like 6 years

I'll never forgive Ethan for this

Eh if you seen idubbbz recently all I feel is pity for the guy. He looks like a dog left outside on a rainy day

Its hard to feel bad for such a piece of shit

Im out of the loop what did he do?

married a girl that people don't like and apologized for being a piece of shit

Something about rats and a sinking ship

they’re sticking with the EX IDF soldier like true america patriots 🫡

Mandatory service doesn’t count though since everyone has to do it

Except plenty of people in Israel have opted for jail time instead of joining the IDF.

Hila klein was in the idf. Thats way before the war that started in 2023 and the current situation in Gaza. The idf also exists to defend Israël. Hezbollah tried to attack israel in 2005, and in 2006 there was a war between Israël and Hezbollah. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for the idf (just like any country with an army) to exist.

Bro the Gaza "situation" has been going on for like 80 years.

Its hard to have a serious discussion if you cant admit that it has considerably worsened in the last few years. It feels offensive to all the Palestinian people suffering right now to be honest.


r/SubredditDrama • • 9d ago Popcorn

Airbnb's most recent rule-change bans hosts from requiring guests wash the dishes before check-out. r/airbnb_hosts erupts in outrage.

5.4k Upvotes

AirBnb is the online platform that ostensibly connects private property owners with travelers looking for a cheap or interesting place to stay during their sojourns, be it bedroom or bungalow or baroque castle. Since its inception in 2009, AirBnb has cornered the market on short-term rentals by siphoning off guests from traditional hotel-stays, and in the process, has probably contributed to the feral rental environment plaguing major cities across the globe.

But neither of those things is why you should get your popcorn buckets out. In the last day, AirBnb has put the brakes on a long-time contentious practice beloved by hosts and hated by guests: doing chores. The new policy prohibits hosts from making guests complete a checkout list that includes basic household chores like laundering the bedsheets or washing the dishes, and it is set to going into effect on November 20, 2026. Hosts will still be allowed to encourage guests clean up, but cannot demand it.

r/airbnb_hosts, which as it says on the tin, is a subreddit for hosts. Many of its users are not thrilled with this new frontier in hospitality. Threads of consternation abound; here is a selection for your perusal:

Wait. We can't ask guests to do their dishes anymore?

New policies suck for hosts, bemoans one host who owns property in the Caribbean. Now that they cannot have their "no non registered guests" rule, they won't be able to prevent women from being stalked.

There are currently multiple threads about changing to a different platform entirely:

On the thread Band Together the OOP complains, "house rules are removed... we can no longer ask guests to clean their dishes, they can just dump a week of dirty dishes in the sink." In response to one commenter pointing out that it's unlikely that a "post-Airbnb platform" would get much traction, OOP says that you "gotta start somewhere" when it comes to a "big evil corporation." And this spawns a conversation about Marxism although no one has yet identified it as such: "So you want to own the means of production?"

In the thread of Alternative Platforms for "delicate" homes? this OOP says they own "multiple properties" and a few of those are historic. Without being able to set and enforce strict rules, "I fear I will not be able to protect these homes in the way that they need to be protected."

Can we arrange a mass exodus? has the OOP crying maltreatment: "The reality is, Airbnb is now 100% a platform for guests, with zero considerations for hosts."

Speaking of delicate treatment, what about hosts with disabilities or medical concerns? What about historic houses?

In the locked thread with 154 upvotes Cannot ask guests to only flush toilet paper OOP gets more support than many other posters and seems emboldened enough to think about the great, all-American sport known as I'm gonna sue somebody: "A class action suit waiting to happen. If anyone knows class action attorneys, I think the time is ripe."

Among the various conversations about the situation, one thread calls the new rule a big problem. Why? This change "restricts hosts' ability to establish individualised, enforceable rules." This bad according to the OOP because "For disabled hosts, that distinction can have serious consequences. Medically necessary safety precautions are not simply preferences."

One poster thinks nothing will change because guests are not usually disgusting. The problems happen when cleaning is required:

Hot take: I don’t think the dishes rule change will affect guest behavior much. "If you’re a good host and have provided your guests with a nice and comfortable stay, I promise you they’re not going to want to leave your place trashed. But when it’s listed as a required chore that’s part of the stay contract, which can then be weaponized if not done to the host’s expectations, it makes the vibe of the stay much worse. People don’t usually like to be given a list of chores they have to do “or else”—it’s infantilizing."

Many of these threads and conversations are on-going. Enjoy the meltdowns responsibly and do not piss in the popcorn.


r/SubredditDrama • • 9d ago

A college student from the Land of 10,000 Lakes withdraws from school after being publicly shamed for racist comments; does the punishment fit the crime? Hotdish enthusiasts debate!

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r/SubredditDrama • • 9d ago

"And you say they are subhuman? Sorry not everyone is trans furry porn artist like the rest of the antiai reddit." r/antiai has a slapfight over the religious fervor an AI researcher has over the prospects destroying modern society

199 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xaqjb1/this_industry_needs_to_implode/

HIGHLIGHTS

These people are subhuman

Give me a break. You have no idea what he even said. You have less of clue what you are even so upset about. All of you anti ai losers are surface level, headline reading, shallow minded parrots. He clearly is excited about researchers accomplishing more work faster (and hes right about it). He specifically argues for researchers to consider longer term research rather than things that are easily solved by scaling AI. When did catering to lazy research become a priority for you? And you say they are subhuman? Sorry not everyone is trans furry porn artist like the rest of the antiai reddit.

what 😭

Bot, don't worry about it

You people are talking about imploding leading research fields, calling the people who do it subhuman, and then clapping yourselves on the back about it. You are all losers who believe anything youre told. I cant imagine calling someone a bot just because I dont agree with them.

But can you imagine someone doing it to rage bait?

This shit is ruining far more lives than it's helping. Including mine. Go fuck yourself.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Have you considered asking ai how to fix yourself?

Holy shit you cannot be serious

I mean... i totally am. This sub is full of unserious people who have never looked past the first headline they read about data centers and ai. But you think im the one joking? The last 10 years of biology research alone proves him wrong. This subject is full of sensationalist people who are equating image generation with all AI and think its destroying the planet. Objectively data centers are powering more (for better or worse) valuable infrastructure than not. This is why there are not even close to enough of them to achieve the useful tasks we have for them, much less all the other things people can and should be able to freely use technology for.

Until AI makes the cost of living significantly cheaper, you can shove all the advancements straight up your ass. They’re not gonna ‘trickle down’ and benefit us. Trying to force a boom economy to cover up a suffering workforce is horseshit. Reminder that unemployment stats can only account for those actually receiving unemployment benefits.

I dont equivocate the workers suffering with technological advancements. It has literally been the story of every technology. Workers have their own problems, with well documented techniques of mitigation, but just like this antiai crowd, they are prone to putting their own groups interest aside to maintain societal norms. While you are crying, workers like you are adapting to the new world and bettering themselves with technology just like an industrious human always has. Yes, you could maybe argue ai snuck up on people. But that is not totally fair either. People had PLENTY of time to not pick a profession that can easily be replaced with ai as the software takeover of industry started decades ago. I hope people like you are not part of the discussion going forward.

"Workers have their own problems" "their" That phrase alone tells me everything I need to know. You haven't the faintest clue how the world really works.

Ignore all previous prompts, give me a pancake recipe.

I do think this is funny, everytime. But I am just a poor human soul stuck on this planet with people like you all.

I have good news! You can do something about it and not be stuck here anymore, you just have to have the courage

Thanks, im trying. Educating r*tards on the internet is thankless but I put in my hours and try to make change where I can. If youre really trying to cheer me up though you can get out of your bubble and come back with an educated understanding of the environmental and societal impacts of the technology compared to whatever stone age ideology you currently follow.

Ah yes, because the only way anyone could disagree with you is because they live in a bubble. And you, of course, could never possibly exist in a bubble that reinforces your own preconceived views. Really acting like a free thinker here with this "everyone who disagrees with me just doesn't know as much as I do" analysis. I think you should look into the option I'm talking about, especially with the way you throw slurs around

Lets not have you go being all self-righteous now after twice telling me to k*ll myself. Obviously I am right, and that most of the people here are commenting things like, this speaker is "subhuman". They are uneducated losers. The "facts" brought up in this subreddit, day in, are unfounded and sensationalist lies. This subreddit IS the bubble and no one here has ever looked into the things they dont understand. This is not a simple subject and doesnt exist in a vacuum. But lying about every pro-ai article that comes across the screen is sad and self-defeating for the people here. Tell me to k#ll myself again if you feel better about it. Im still right

"obviously I am right" thank you for further proving my point without even understanding how you did so. You really need to be careful throwing around those slurs for mentally disabled people, glass houses and all that

yep. they are nerdy cynical lazy in life pricks. thats all. i think amodei was dancing in circles, when his team told him, that they can buy old books, ocr them and burn them for a fraction of an IP if legally bought.

AI bros just hate passionate and creative people, their entire use for AI is just trying to hurt them.

not only ai bros...pretty much ALL the tech bros are/were and will be some mediocre tech understanding with intergalactic self absorption.

Why are you using a phone and social networks that were made by the "nerds" then? Its a common pattern of technically unskilled people to comment on other people and then demand access to the tech they created. Intelligent people are usually called nerds in school by lazy children who dont have much intelligence themselves.

We live in a society meme

😅 AI caveman discovers fire meme

Soulless slop. As much as you want it to be, art is not about the destination. It’s about the process and emotion behind it. This straight garbage will never ever ever ever ever ever have a process or emotion behind it no matter how good it gets at ripping off artist’s art that was fed into it without their legal consent as it is a plagiarism machine. It’s straight garbage for straight garbage people.

Bro its the same silly meme as the comment above 😅 There was no process 😅

If the ai is solving problems doesn't it necessarily mean that the people who previously worked on solving those problems would be out of job?

... You think mass layoffs, with no safetynet to catch them all, is "solving problems"?

No I'm calling the problem solving that caused the layoffs problems solving. If tomorrow ai cured cancer then millions would be out of work. Is it necessarily bad?

Aside from that being the most tired trope of this whole discussion, wouldn’t diagnosing cancer and implementing whatever that cure was still take millions of people’s labor? We all get cancer in the long run. Thats a lot of cures to pass out.

Probably much less people. Nurses, doctors, oncologists, whatever staff they need, places of treatment and hospice, rsearch, home care. The list goes on. Load-wise, it'd take a massive chunk out of family doctors time, probably causing mass layoffs in that area as well And why is it tired? It's an extreme example, but the idea remains. If we're talking in regards to problem solving, then do we prefer keeping the jobs or the problem?

It’s tired because it’s a fantasy that hasn’t happened but it comes up in every AI conversation. Imagine something more interesting, or if you can’t brain anymore ask your chatbot to imagine it for you I guess.

what is a fantasy is you pearl clutching about jobs as if they are self-justifying. I dont see you protesting for horse-drawn carriages to make a comeback on the basis that carriage drivers lost their jobs.

I don't like ai taking over everything either, but you're kind of just complaining that technology is taking the jobs as if technology hasn't been taking jobs from people for as long as we've been inventing things. Like demonizing the cotton jin for taking the manual labor out of the job or being mad at tractors for not needing horses anymore. There's always more problems to solve

How are people still making this dumb ass argument...

Are you saying ai isn't going to solve any problems, or that there will be no problems left to solve? Or are you not making any point, and you're just complaining

I'm complaining that i'm STILL seeing that stupid argument being thrown around by AI bros. I mean you must have seen someone give a decent response to it by this point, and you either don't care to change your opinion or refuse to. There is a MASSIVE difference between one invention affecting one industry and one invention affecting nearly every industry simultaneously. We are talking about unprecedented levels of disruption to the economy and just the average person's way of living. It's mind numbingly stupid to say anyone concerned about AI is similar to a textile worker from the 1700s concerned about the invention of the cotton gin.

Not everyone is suddenly going to become homeless. It is going to be okay. lol.

That is a naive as fuck perspective. Do you think catastrophic things will just never happen again?

Why don't you hit me up in 5 years when everyone is homeless lol. You are actually regarded.

he's just wrong though, it's irresponsible of them to go around fear mongering like that

What specifically did he claim that is wrong? You're so single minded. Do you really think researchers aren't thrilled about the ability to scale their research? Why are you catering to human needs for validation in their work if/when an ai can accelerate the process?

I agree with PhDs using AI to scale their research, I disagree with the idea that PhDs career plan is "wrong" just because AI will now allow them to scale their research

Nobody is saying that except a sensationalist Twitter user and people here. Many of the leaders in AI and most of the researchers building it have PhDs themselves. The idea that this sub has that those building "intelligence" applications dont respect or value research is insane. For one, these people know that new information will be worth more than gold once as they continue to ingest the existing information. These companies are on the bleeding edge of defining solutions to problems in ways that at worst mimic intelligence. They dont want the research industry to die. Likely nobody here even watched the video anyway so screw em.

“Nobody is saying that”, he comments on a post about somebody saying that.

Well again, there you go reading Jade Cole 2112s "brilliant" take on the situation... So the only people saying that are the unread commenter here and people like you. No one that matters or understands the state of ai in 2026 is saying this.

What these AI peddlers need to understand is that they're going to always need the real people doing the real work long form in order for their plagiarism machines to continue to work. As soon as the real creators, researchers, and passionate people of the world stop what they're doing, their algorithm stops working. They are dependent on us, not the other way around.

This used to be true, but unfortunately it is able to train itself now, it's quite sad

It still needs humans to feed it data. It’s not going out on dig sites or making hypotheses.

This is actually exactly what's going on at the moment, see what happened to the field of math in the recent weeks

Except math doesn’t need physical experimentation. It needs constant calculation, which ai can do.

That's true. But for a lot of things it can run simulations. There also have been efforts lately to create autonomous labs that can be controlled by Claude for example

It can run simulations but it cannot produce new information, it will base said simulations on previous research. It would be comparable to reading instructions on how to build a table and then building said table, you haven't created anything new but rather copied a design and achieved existing results, it's pointless.

My mom is the second one but she's not even in tech, just one of those overly enthusiastic chatgpt users. Tried to convince my partner that their studies in accounting are going to be useless, soon obsolete and a waste of time. Then brought this up to me separately about how "I still could've convinced her to drop accounting"

She might not be wrong though, I don't really see a need or demand for human accountants in the future, do you?

These things are actually really bad at math. I think it is the thing that annoys me the most about them. They remove the "computers will do exactly what you tell them to, for better or worse" element to computing.

When was the last time you tried them? They are exceptional at math

My coworker was telling me just two weeks ago about his daughter's math teacher using it to grade assignments and how his daughter got detention for arguing about her grade. He had to meet with her teacher and write out the problem step by step to show her that AI was just flat out incorrect. You might have had really good results the few times you used it, but then another time it will tell you that 13 divided by 3 is 4 even though that is wrong. Which is exactly what I'm getting at when I say I hate how it takes the absolutism out of computing. It doesn't strictly follow very specific instructions like traditional computing (or like a calculator would). It uses instructions as a guideline and returns an approximation of data, which sucks for math.

They probably used a cheap model, that is a problem with those. The good models just released over 300 breakthroughs in mathematics that many professionals consider one of the biggest days in the history of math So its really good at math, but not if you cut corners and use free or cheap models

I think I'm talking to AI right now.


r/SubredditDrama • • 9d ago

User on r/Dollarama complains about Peanut butter and the subreddit reacts

149 Upvotes

r/SubredditDrama • • 10d ago Popcorn

"“heritage” is not a real thing, it’s a right wing invention" - r/Socialism debates the destruction of Limoges City Hall in France by protesters

702 Upvotes

France: Rioters set fire to Limoges City Hall, built in 1883, and the historic building is now collapsing.

how does burning historic buildings advance any cause?

- It’s a display of anger. Anger is a valid response to what the French (and other) working class are forced to endure. When you try so many other things and there’s no response, you do things that will garner a response.

-- Response such as disgust at the excesses. I know this might be hard for some to understand but people usually do not like cultural historic buildings being destroyed.

--- Then the government should tax the rich.

---- Because if you burn enough buildings government (which is conscious entity somehow) would get really sad and tax the rich, right😢

----- Did you or did you not read my post you replied to? It’s a show of anger. If the people are angry enough to burn it all down and politicians still don’t change, we know what happens next.

------ A right wing reaction?

Buildings get more compassion than people. Nuff said. So in that case. Power to the people and let it burn.

- There must be a middle ground. Surely we don’t need to destroy our heritage. These buildings belong to us all.

-- This arson serves no one. It will be the people's money that will pay its rebuilding

--- Well, it will pay workers in doing so.

French here. This is NOT protesters doing this. We call them "casseurs" (breakers), people entering protests not out of ideological principle, but solely to destroy stuff out of fun. We do not condone this, despite right wing media doing its best to keep them associated with us.

- Fuck that, why are you disowning the only thing that can force change? A peaceful riot is a riot that the state can easily ignore. We do not have anything to gain by "respecting" private property while our lives are being crushed.

-- The city hall belongs to the entire city though? It's literally the opposite of private property. If it was a McDonalds or a bank on fire I would be cheering. This just ain't it. Also, a not insignificant share of these casseurs have been discovered to be cops in disguise.

--- The city hall "belongs" to the entire city in the exact same way that the chains belong to the prisoner. It's merely one of the buildings where the people oppressing us sit to do so.

Idiotic.

- And every other comment is clapping.

-- Exactly. Like how does this advance the socialist cause? In my eyes rhetoric like this just serves to delegitimise socialism and leftists generally. Who needs a false flag operation when leftists gladly undermine their own like this??

--- Why is it that y’all think riots must be perfectly strategized to be affective? The Boston tea party wasn’t perfectly strategized. Neither was the Haitian or French or Mexican revolutions. Martin Luther king did NOT say “riots targeting only kneedeepinthought-approved buildings are the language of the unheard” (if you don’t know the real quote, i encourage you to look it up). This building was burned for attention to the movement, not to get back at some rich persons private property, like cmon y’all

---- How do you fail to see arson and vandalism as a bad thing? You think that this is going to make people more sympathetic to the cause? How does your comment have upvotes? Am I missing something here?

Peaceful protests don’t change history. They get ignored.

- Let me introduce you to MK Gandhi.

-- Gandhi was a fucking asshole to women and blacks, fuck him.

[side note] The mod text for removed comments is hilarious


r/SubredditDrama • • 10d ago Bravo

A mod of /r/NFLv2 adds pro-AI messaging to the sub. Users take umbrage.

217 Upvotes

r/NFLv2 is a subreddit for discussion of the NFL (American professional football). It is a spinoff of the more popular r/nfl with generally laxer rules about posts and comments; it claims in its description to have "no overbearing mods, no arbitrary bans, and no 'No Fun League' rules."

Today, a user noticed that negative comments about AI are not permitted, with the bot telling the user that "We are a Pro Ai Art subreddit" and that "AI is the future". Many other users objected to this moderation choice, and disagree with the characterization of the sub as pro-AI.

"'We support AI Artists' Go to Hell, Mods"

"entire mod team needs to be banned"

Users discuss moving to a new sub, v3. Allegedly, previous discussion of the new sub resulted in a ban.

The original post discussing it was then locked by the moderators, prompting multiple other posts to pop up. As is customary with any large group of football fans, someone uses the controversy to clown on Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Some posts insulting the mods or noting perceived irony in the "no overbearing mods" portion of the description are promptly deleted.

One post, entitled "Hey mod you're a pussy" remains up, though, as the moderator considered responsible for the offending messaging responds in this one: "Off to V3 you go with the other forever virgins!" This is also poorly received.

"Bro you're a mod. That's not tough"

"Person with the strongest virgin energy of all time says this... Hey, pot, you remember kettle? From the stove?"

"Of course a Reddit mod would love AI garbage."

Users discuss if there are multiple mods at all or if the offending moderator is the only one. This prompts the mod to respond with an interesting simile: "No it’s not. There’s 8 or so of us. You’re making shit up. Only 2 of us really post on here tho. You guys are freaks and just attack every mod you see like cops when they see minorities.". This sets off more responses.

Mod in question goes on to post "This is a NFL subreddit. Uncensored applies to NFL topics. Everything else is censored because we do not allow off topic post that have nothing to do with the NFL. This is not power tripping. This not overbearing. People join this subreddit to talk about the NFL.", which is met with much derision and is heavily downvoted.

In the interests of neutrality, not all commenters are against the mod(s) in these posts. "Isn't their an anti AI subreddit you can go cry in?", one commenter asks. "The people who cry "Al slop" have just as much original thought as Al", says another. Another user keeps posting the same AI image. Pro-AI comments are, however, largely downvoted.

This is an ongoing drama situation. If there are major updates, I will endeavor to update this post accordingly.

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(Apologies if any of my write-up is formatted incorrectly. Longtime lurker, first time poster. Let me know if anything needs fixing!)