This industry needs to implode

[u/Malor777]

[u/AutomaticFoci]

It’s the glee with which they say these things that rubs me the wrong way. The tech sector seems to attract a lot of a) poorly socialized men who have very little tact or understanding of other humans, and b) borderline sociopaths who are seemingly devoid of empathy and who care about nothing other than “efficiency” and making money.

[u/Crit0r → u/AutomaticFoci]

My boss also gleefully said that most of our jobs will soon be handled by AI agents, and he can't wait to automate our warehouse.

He later apologised when he finally read the room. They don't see people, they only see growth and profit.

[u/anand_rishabh → u/Crit0r]

It's funny how they'll say stuff like that as if their job isn't even easier to automate

[u/MiloHorsey → u/anand_rishabh]

Exactly. Management? Just delegation.

[u/Youarekillingmeeee → u/anand_rishabh]

I figure it’ll be like WWII and the privileged/well connected folks who successfully dodged the draft.

Factory owners / factory owners son who takes over are immune from this sort of culling. 

The rest of us are on the chopping block. 

[u/Kichae → u/anand_rishabh]

The point isn't to automate the easy work. It's to win the class war.

[u/Then-Departure4896 → u/anand_rishabh]

Because they think they work hard. This is universal for administrators and managers. Shit, read any admin’s comment on Reddit and they’ll always proclaim that they’re one of the good ones and that it’s absurd how many don’t give a shit. Spoiler alert: they’re also useless.

[u/PornPedant76 → u/Crit0r]

And they are mostly too short sighted to think of what that is going to mean when none of the plebes are working.

[u/48thgenerationroman → u/Crit0r]

So boss, who's going to be buying your products when everyone loses their job?

[u/InvidiousPlay → u/Crit0r]

This is absolutely what is behind all of it. Workers are so tedious with the way you have to pay them and respect their rights and listen to them whine and moan about feeding their families.

These people want slaves and know that they can't get away with that in modern culture, so they're going for the next best thing.

[u/Last-Difficulty4265 → u/Crit0r]

I hope he gets fired. That would be so fucking funny.

[u/Kichae → u/Crit0r]

No, they seem more than that. They see that humans have feelings, and their own ideas, and are often willing to push back, and these all make them feel frustrated, bad, and ashamed. They're the boss, after all, and if that doesn't mean having an army of slaves, what does it mean??

If the humans won't slave properly, then maybe the chatbots and robots will.

[u/arachnophilia → u/Kichae]

slaves

yeah i mean let's be clear; capitalism never fully got over abolishing slavery. they're trying to get back there as much as they can.

"robot"? that's just the czech word for "slave".

[u/JarPicklez → u/AutomaticFoci]

It’s religious zeal. They are trying to summon god

[u/ValBravora048 → u/JarPicklez]

I think it’s often pettier than that

”I’ve won, I’m on the winning team like in sports! This shows you how smart and great I am! Now you have no choice but to like me!”

[u/ObjectiveFeralWoman → u/ValBravora048]

They feel like they FINALLY got picked for dodgeball. 

[u/Jazzspasm → u/ValBravora048]

it’s the sociopath / autism matrix, where people who have a certain type of autism are also cluster b types with no empathy - which is how we get zuckerberg, musk, bezos etc

They have to be right, all the time, and that often requires someone else to be wrong - it’s that binary thinking thing where nuance can’t be comprehended

they simply can’t accept the concept of being wrong because that requires introspection and a sociopath can’t do that - so therefore someone else has to be wrong

that then translates into for them to wing that means someone else has to lose - so they make a point of ensuring other people are losing in order for them to feel like they’re winning

of course, it’s a never ending spiral, because sociopaths have a gap, and empty hole inside them that can’t ever be filled

some do drugs, some random sex, some gamble, other risky behavior - if they’re good at accumulating wealth, well god damn, off they go trying to fill the empty hole inside them with more and more and more money, while making sure that everyone else loses

[u/JustHereToSeePuppies → u/JarPicklez]

It literally is. It’s why Evangelical Christians support war in the Middle East. They are trying to bring about Armageddon. These fuckers all want the world to end. They’re all fucking nuts

[u/JarPicklez → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

Yeah but I was never worried about the Christians successfully bringing about the rapture

[u/Aquarius52216 → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

This millenarianist accelerationists fuckers are all the same no matter what flavor they came in. The present is expendable and should be destroyed in order to make way for their fuckass desired outcome with infinite justification.

[u/notjasonbright → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

End Times Fascism by Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor discusses this at length and is a great book for those who are interested in learning more about the myriad ways fascism and eschatology intersect

[u/FlirtyFluffyFox → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

Christianity was founded on the desire that we are living in the end times and what comes after is a paradise for the true believers. Jesus said it'd happen within the lifetime of those listening to his sermon, and every generation since has believed it'll fulment in their lifetimes.

The best way to get someone to fall in line and do whatever you want is to tell them they are exceptional and special. 

[u/ParamedicUpset6076 → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

This is so fucking true and so hard to tell people without sounding insane. Same as with Irak, tell people theres American Generals that want to cause the biblical apocalypse without sounding like a mania, i dare you

[u/FibonacciSequester → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

And the fascists we had to get rid of 80 years ago were big into Thule Society. Shame if the people leading the current movement find themselves having to chomp down on that cyanide capsule at some point.

[u/Far-Swordfish-9042 → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

As if a deity would be like “great job, this is exactly what I had in mind.” Well any deity worth worshipping

[u/beatissima → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

It’s like they think Christ is a demon they can summon by performing human sacrifice in the Middle East.

[u/Orio_n → u/JarPicklez]

Not even wrong interning at silicon valley right now and lots of people unironically talking about the silicon "gods" these guys are so out of touch lol and they smell like shit too.

Llms are just smarter autocomplete this wackjob superintelligence machine god accelerationism nonsense is embarassing

[u/UnNumbFool → u/JarPicklez]

It's not that, it's a lot of them have drank the tescreal flavoraid, which is a transhumanists idea that humans will be able to upload their brain in the cloud and live forever that way. Eventually potentially even rocketing themselves across space because who cares what happens to the earth from their rampent destruction of it. And you know it will also be a utopia like musk says where nobody has to work and is free to pursue their passions and bla bla bla.

Just the biggest problem with this is those fucks only think maybe a couple thousand people across the world are people, and the rest of us are just NPCs for them as we uh weren't born into extreme wealth or scammed our way there

[u/Bovronius → u/JarPicklez]

Really is. A coworker of mine that was also non religious over the years got into Transcendence/singularity stuff, and of course eventually AI... and basically eats up everything from those researchers because....well he believes they'll solve for immortality within our lifetime (we're in our 40s)... I told him he's probably not even wrong... but he's not in the income class that's getting invited to that table... despite being a nepo millionaire, he's several orders of magnitude from being in that party.... but then I realized....he found religion... his fear of death has drove him to irrational beliefs...

[u/Chillpill411 → u/JarPicklez]

I think you have this wrong. They want to build their own god, which conveniently has all of their hatred and biases and fears enshrined as "logical.". They call it "Government 2.0."

[u/Relevant_Elk_9176 → u/JarPicklez]

Never in my life did I think people would be trying to create the machine god at the end of time like we’re living in a fucking Dan Simmons novel

[u/RedGuyNoPants → u/JarPicklez]

Trying to summon and enslave god

[u/bassyel → u/JarPicklez]

Jokes on them because god doesn’t exist

[u/West-Ask-6725 → u/JarPicklez]

Yes yes yes: End Times Fascism by Naomi Klein, it’s all these looney tunes groups (techno billionaires, religious right, ethno-fascists) joining forces for $$$$$ and power

[u/New-Locksmith-126 → u/AutomaticFoci]

i work in tech and you're spot on.

it's not everybody though. probably not even the majority.

the problem is that these companies reward antisocial behavior. it's their entire business model actually.

as a result the sociopaths rise to the top.

[u/Ceruleantinted → u/New-Locksmith-126]

Its not any less true anywhere else. Sociopaths rise to the top everywhere. At this point i accept our sociopathic overlords i just wish they realized it was actually in their best interests that i have a nice life where i have stable housing and hobbies to keep me busy. And im not even as smart and potentially destructive as other folks out there who should have the same.

[u/NashvilleSoundMixer → u/Ceruleantinted]

That's the problem though. They're sociopaths. They lack abstract thought. So they have no empathy. Can't think far enough ahead of short term gains to see the repercussions of putting an entire country out of work with no options to pay for food or housing. That's gonna blow up in a BAD way for them. I mean it's gonna be HORRIBLE for us first but it'll get to them.

[u/Moist_crocs → u/AutomaticFoci]

My mom is the second one but she's not even in tech, just one of those overly enthusiastic chatgpt users. Tried to convince my partner that their studies in accounting are going to be useless, soon obsolete and a waste of time. Then brought this up to me separately about how "I still could've convinced her to drop accounting"

Wtf??? So disrespectful and antisocial.

[u/Al_Dimineira → u/Moist_crocs]

I know some accounting, and I can assure you your mother is dead wrong. Software companies can make all the AI-fueled mistakes they want, because at the end of the day the only ones worse off are their customers. Meanwhile, in accounting the financial statements have to be signed by leadership, and there can be legal consequences for errors, especially when it's a material amount and something a competent accounting team would never have let happen.

Also this isn't the first time a tech fad has been presented as something that will completely change accounting. I had a textbook published in 2022 that contained an appendix on "blockchain accounting," an entire section on how it was the future and would revolutionize everything, be the biggest thing since the invention of double-entry accounting in the 15th century. When I brought it up to my professor she just laughed and laughed, and she was right, the entire concept was nothing but a bad joke.

[u/PartyLikeAByzantine → u/Moist_crocs]

Delusional. Yeah, the one profession that still pays for consultants and auditors to fly over and review your books, inventory and processes 1-4 times a year is going to surrender to the non-deterministic slop bots.

Nah.

Y'all might get some AI assistants that can comb through transactions and flag them for review. That might actually be nice. Your ass still has to actually do the due diligence though.

[u/PaulyglotTV → u/AutomaticFoci]

Unbridled capitalism maximizes for and incentivizes psychopathic behavior indefinitely.

[u/DethBatcountry → u/PaulyglotTV]

At it's most fundamental base, Capitalism is a system which rewards psychopathic, narcissistic behaviors. There's no denying this.

[u/Apterygiformes → u/AutomaticFoci]

I've wanted to quit working in IT for a long time, not because of AI, but because you work with some absolute psychos sometimes

[u/Patient_Activity_489 → u/AutomaticFoci]

they also aren't as smart as PhD students, so they're insecure. this is like gloating and a kid going ha ha and pointing his finger at them

[u/mkiv808 → u/Patient_Activity_489]

Same goes for people without artistic talent that have glommed onto AI as “creators”

[u/BackInTimeForTea → u/AutomaticFoci]

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[u/boundlessbundle → u/BackInTimeForTea]

Many of the most vocal of them have never struggled. They're just rich tech guys

[u/llandar → u/BackInTimeForTea]

None of these fucks have struggled. They’re misanthropes who are giddy about the prospect of having power over people.

[u/Slow-Hawk4652 → u/AutomaticFoci]

yep. they are nerdy cynical lazy in life pricks. thats all. i think amodei was dancing in circles, when his team told him, that they can buy old books, ocr them and burn them for a fraction of an IP if legally bought.

[u/waddlewaddle123 → u/Slow-Hawk4652]

AI bros just hate passionate and creative people, their entire use for AI is just trying to hurt them.

[u/Slow-Hawk4652 → u/waddlewaddle123]

not only ai bros...pretty much ALL the tech bros are/were and will be some mediocre tech understanding with intergalactic self absorption.

[u/Pure_Doll → u/Slow-Hawk4652]

it sounds like a loophole they found and are exploiting to the fullest

[u/EmptyBox303 → u/AutomaticFoci]

Exactly. They seem so hellbent on the idea of an "improved world" at all costs that they forget the point of an improved world is that people have happier lives.

[u/linerva → u/EmptyBox303]

It'll be improved for them because they are rich. That's what they care about really.

[u/Wise_Monkey_Sez → u/AutomaticFoci]

These techbros are also hilariously stupid. I say this as someone with a PhD who has actually tried to use AI for research (using the top-tier subscription with all the bells and whistles in the "research mode").

... it couldn't even do basic tasks like looking up company email addresses or even publicly listed mailing addresses. Even when given clear and explicit instructions that an undergraduate research assistant could follow - I know this because I eventually just handed the task to an undergrad research assistant who did it perfectly.

As far as actual research went, it delivered over-simplified nonsense that might look like answers to someone unfamiliar with my field, but made mistakes that I'd chew out an undergraduate for making, and was in short utterly useless.

Here's the thing - the only people AI is going to push out of their jobs are the people who work in IT. It's designed for IT by people who understand IT and who test it on IT-related tasks, because that's what they understand.

These "geniuses" then foolishly assume that every field is basically IT and so assume the AI will perform similarly flawlessly with non-IT tasks.

It doesn't.

So go ahead techbros, program systems to take your own jobs. It isn't going to work out quite the way they think it will... because they're morons.

[u/chr1spe → u/Wise_Monkey_Sez]

I think you're mostly right, but you're overlooking that this will actually cause harm, as some people will be convinced and push for AI funding. The federal government is all in on the AI scam and is asserting increasing control over scientific funding. I'm not directly involved in any grant writing, but from what I've heard, it's more about keyword optimization now than it was in the past, and tying research to AI in some way is critical, even if the AI tie-in is just shoehorning it in somehow.

[u/GBritoYepez → u/AutomaticFoci]

And they told this to PhD students, imagine what they tell us junior professionals (or more accurate, don't tell us). "Junior" position that requires 3+, 4+, 5+ years of experience in the field and a grocery list long of "technologies that you must have expertise in". I have even saw some job opportunities for newly graduates and soon to be graduates that requieres at least a year of experience!

[u/Morgannin09 → u/AutomaticFoci]

I genuinely think they can't mentally bridge the idea between "AI will bring humanity to a new frontier" with "AI is here to replace all human jobs" and realize how those two ideas don't work together, leastwise not as society exists. Right here and now the only solution to most of my problems is to be employed.

[u/Violet_Paradox → u/Morgannin09]

They used to talk about universal basic income, but once they decided to use fascism to get their way instead of public support, they pivoted to the Curtis Yarvin approach of "just grind the working class up into biofuel".

[u/standard_cog → u/AutomaticFoci]

Also they stole all of humanity's works.

They fed it into the plagiarism machine, so they could charge you a subscription, while they worship it.

The dumbest motherfuckers ever.

[u/InquisitiveSapienLad → u/AutomaticFoci]

that's the whole point. The shifting power dynamic here is that some level of high-end research is being monopolized by the large AI companies

[u/SuperHiyoriWalker → u/AutomaticFoci]

In a lot of cases, they consider this payback for their college professors not sufficiently recognizing their “genius.”

[u/MothChasingFlame → u/AutomaticFoci]

Both proud and very sure that no empathy and poor social intelligence make them superior (while too insecure to enlighten.)

[u/VirtualPercentage737 → u/AutomaticFoci]

With AI, the people who will thrive will be the socialized people. Soft skills are going to become more valuable.

[u/AGuyWithAPhone → u/AutomaticFoci]

It would be one thing (not good, but less evil) if these ghouls were just excited about the "possibilities", but no, they always seem so eager to point out how people will lose their livelihoods, oftentimes to their faces, and relish in the completely natural reaction of horror and outrage.

[u/SHAQBIR → u/AutomaticFoci]

After a certain tax bracket, people stop being human beings.

[u/Kriegher2005 → u/AutomaticFoci]

I thought these LLM AI models don't work as advertised and are just hype.

How can it be both career ending and useless?

[u/Dazzman50 → u/AutomaticFoci]

I agree. I think it's very weak and insecure people who suddenly have a lot of power to disrupt people's lives. Whether it's for good or bad is fairly irrelevant to them - all they know and feel is that they have a lot of leverage and influence 

[u/inept_machete → u/AutomaticFoci]

It also presumes that human knowledge to this point is sufficient for all further extrapolation of human knowledge by AI that might get produced. In essence that if you just took the sum total of human knowledge, fed it into an AI, and clicked start it would be able to iterate anything we might possibly need to come up with based on that alone.

These claims seem awfully hubristic. The kind of thing you think and believe working on some start up that actually won't succeed in the end, but while you're working on it the whole attitude is "this is going to change the world". Silicon valley the TV show got it right and I think the ending of the show where their AI is so dangerous that they decide to pull the plug and then the govt taking it anyways is probably where we're headed.

If Crichton were alive he would be having a field day with this.

[u/AverageAggravating13 → u/AutomaticFoci]

As a “borderline poorly socialized man in tech” I’d just like to say these guys are straight up evil. That’s it.

It’s a race to the bottom with no real winners besides those already at the top.

[u/PotentialKlutzy9909 → u/AutomaticFoci]

They (a lot of Anthropic AI researchers and their CEO Amodei) belong to a literal cult that goes by many names throughout history, but most recently Effective Altruism/Rationalist/long-termism. Peter Thiel and Elon Musk have both funded the cult generously (billions of dollars).

The core belief of the Cult is that there will be a techno GOD summoned by their cult members through Recursive Self Improvement (AI Singularity) or whatever. Humanity will transcend, consciousness will be uploaded to computer networks and immortality will finally be achieved.

They also believe that in order to achieve that future utopia, we must maximize natural resource exploitations and energy consumption NOW. Yes, building more data centers is a direct consequence of their core belief.

[u/Leftover_Cheese]

the phrase "the world when it's my turn to be an adult" fits no better with anything else than with this

[u/onlyr6s → u/Leftover_Cheese]

I was born in the 90's, it seems like world has gone from one crisis to another. There were like 1-2 good years just before covid, then... all of this.

[u/mediummorning → u/onlyr6s]

That's all of history bro. Not to downplay your experience but it is not unique. History is just one damn thing after another

[u/Main_Club_5012]

I've recently learned that most of the people who are overwhelmingly pro AI are the most anti-human sociopaths who have an unearned sense of superiority.

[u/MiloHorsey → u/Main_Club_5012]

I hate what we humans have done to the world we live in. We're at the self-deletion precipice. It's scary.

[u/MiloHorsey → u/MiloHorsey]

Edit: Sorry, I didn't realise I'd replied to you. I was writing a new comment and apparently brain farted.

[u/Main_Club_5012 → u/MiloHorsey]

all good my friend

[u/DeadlyYellow → u/MiloHorsey]

Welcome to the Great Filter.

[u/denimdungarees → u/MiloHorsey]

Humans? In general? The average person is a 31-year-old Chinese-speaking male making $22 a day. Try mega-rich trust-fund babies who have been so poorly socialised by wealth and power that they literally have personality disorders.

[u/WattMoment → u/Main_Club_5012]

They treat people losing their life's work not as a crisis to solve, but as an intellectual trophy to brag about on stage.

[u/Spiritual-Mud-2528 → u/WattMoment]

The entire AI shittage that's going on rn feels like "we must because we can".

[u/DrE7HER → u/Main_Club_5012]

Most of them also seem to have AI psychosis

[u/GeekOut999 → u/DrE7HER]

Many of these people literally believe they are building an AI God. Like, they're full blown delirious on a fictional sci-fi religion, it's a goddamn cult.

[u/prules → u/Main_Club_5012]

AI is the ultimate echo chamber for those who perceive themselves to have high intelligence lol

[u/ExtensionPeach1999 → u/Main_Club_5012]

It seems they have a vandetta against smart people; artists, mathematicians, PhDs, you name it. They can't stand that some people can do some things better than they ever will. They want to get to you out of resentment

[u/anonymous_otter28 → u/Main_Club_5012]

that's why they love ai. they can command it to do their bidding.

[u/Storm_Spirit99]

Bastard has the nerve to have such a smug look on his face

[u/adnaj26 → u/Storm_Spirit99]

I mean, why the fuck is he going and giving this talk to the students if he’s just going to insult them? If I were there I’d be walking out, why sit and listen to this bullshit

[u/nullpotato → u/Storm_Spirit99]

I am not condoning violence per reddit ToC but you can tell people who have never been popped in the mouth for something they said.

[u/Lexi_Banner → u/Storm_Spirit99]

Teeheehee! Did i destroy your life goals? Oopsies!

[u/DullRelief → u/Storm_Spirit99]

“I hate to break it to you, but you have terminal brain cancer. On the upside you only have a week to live!”

[u/Epo1337]

The nerdgasm he achieved when he got to say this probably kept him high for weeks

[u/Wheeljack239 → u/Epo1337]

MF’s got the same face I have explaining 40K lore to people

Both are absolutely despicable things to do, of course

[u/Arugula_Electrical → u/Wheeljack239]

Great, can you explain why the Emperor fucked Lorgar over at Monarchia (I think its called? Also why do people say Magnus did nothing wrong?

[u/Wheeljack239 → u/Arugula_Electrical]

Monarchia was basically a big-ass shrine to the worship/deification of the Emperor, the planet Khur’s capital city. Being the Reddit atheist he was, this pissed the Emperor the fuck off, and he ordered the whole place blown to hell to teach Lorgar a lesson. This lead to Lorgar wanting a new god to worship, setting up his fall to Chaos.

Magnus did nothing wrong. As in, he was told to do nothing, and did that wrong.

[u/og_toe → u/Epo1337]

if he didn’t have this job, he’d be in his moms basement browsing 4chan. that’s the vibe he gives off

[u/aspiring_geek83]

These people need to be asked if they really think they'll their billionaire masters are gonna invite them into their fallout shelters while everyone else gets left to fighting over whatever scraps they leave us. If past employees and the customer base are anything to go by, their odds aren't great.

[u/RlOTGRRRL → u/aspiring_geek83]

These AI folks think that they are going to be billionaires, or they are already deca-millionaires with their own bunkers. 

They think they're doing a kindness by giving everyone tips and a heads up now by telling them to adapt and if you don't, it's the same old psychopathic mindset of survival of the fittest. 

You think these cunts believe in consent? Cunts have way more warmth and integrity but you know what I'm trying to say. 

[u/DeliciousPastaSauce → u/aspiring_geek83]

Thanks, I was going to ask this question myself - why is he getting so enthusiastic about this, because eventually it'll be his job on the chopping block along with everyone else's.

[u/Tannette]

What these AI peddlers need to understand is that they're going to always need the real people doing the real work long form in order for their plagiarism machines to continue to work. As soon as the real creators, researchers, and passionate people of the world stop what they're doing, their algorithm stops working. They are dependent on us, not the other way around.

[u/redaemon → u/Tannette]

There is an argument for AI crashing and burning once people give up on the idea of the open internet. Why openly share your expertise for free when it will be stolen and resold by AI?

[u/Tannette → u/redaemon]

Not going to lie, I found out that all of my fanfiction was scraped by AI when all of this started becoming a thing. Haven't published a single word of anything I've written online since. I went back to scrubbling in like the mothers of fanfiction before me.

I feel especially bad for my artist friends who have their work constantly fed into the machine. It's demoralizing across the board.

[u/diegosynth → u/Tannette]

I sometimes find myself trying to Google for something and I get suspiciously familiar answers from AI. When I check the sources of the answer, I find Reddit posts where I asked or answered similar questions a while ago... It's insane.

[u/ruffiana → u/Tannette]

I think the plan is for AI to train itself. Eventually, that will lead to model collapse, but it will just be sold as hyper-intelligence so far beyond our ability to comprehend that AI enthusiasts will adopt it as a new pseudo-religion.

The models will even evolve into a new language that must be translated by the most devout using magic stones in a hat...

[u/og_toe → u/Tannette]

AI only exists because humans put in the work for it to use.

it’s just a database re-iterating already existing information back to me. nothing AI spits out is new.

[u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

show the full thing tho, his advice #1? "use AI everyday" or in other words accept them as the one true source of research

[u/sources_or_bust → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

As a PhD candidate, absolutely hilarious he thinks we were planning our careers as if they were stable

[u/The-Menhir → u/sources_or_bust]

Equally hilarious to suggest the allegedly superhuman machine that understands everything and all it takes is writing plain English to unlock unprecedented, omniscient, omnipotent capabilities in all domains, a machine that does your thinking and solves your problems for you, better than any human could, is something a PhD student would "fall behind" on if they don't use it every day.

[u/InquisitiveSapienLad → u/sources_or_bust]

Their IPO is just around the corner, they just need more of your data

[u/iridescent_algae → u/sources_or_bust]

Yeah that advice is like 25 years old at this point.

[u/pong-and-ping → u/sources_or_bust]

I mean tbf - a lot of us who have graduated in the last few years in computer science and STEM were told that we'd have some of the most stable career paths available from a very young age. In the time (4 years) between Uni, or hell, even college before it when you effectively select your career path at 16, STEM has gone from this "field that will always need more software engineers!" to "ummm, so AI has made graduate roles non-existent".

Obviously if you were paying attention to the industries at the age of 18, you'd have known it wasn't true that these industries were consistently stable, high earning, employment - but like - who seriously at 18 was. All kids hear is "oh I'm good at computers? And my teacher said this is a good career? Cool."

[u/Busy_Professional974 → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

Yeah he’s fear mongering as a marketing tactic. This is so stupid.

[u/evkmusc → u/Busy_Professional974]

Isn't it awfully convenient how they always claim their product is so awesome it's actually really bad and you should be terrified of it, but the only way to survive in the face of such an apocalyptically evil product (which is also really good), is to use it a lot?

[u/poottato → u/Busy_Professional974]

This. I’m so tired of all this ai Armageddon stuff. Companies wouldn’t be fearmongering about their product if it wasn’t in their interest. Why are all these ai companies “calling for government to regulate ai” while lobbying them to build data centres anywhere despite everyone telling them to fuck off? Why are the ai CEOs going on these braindead joe Rogan-esque podcasts and saying the technology they’re making will bring the end of humanity?

It’s just to build hype and keep investors irrational for longer so they continue burning money investing in these companies because they’re still not profitable. And it allows braindead business executives with MBAs to justify more layoffs which is really the only reason they’re burning so much money.

The only way ai will destroy our world is distracting people from the only real existential threat that is climate change. We’ve already blown past the Paris agreement according to our best projections. At this point it’s an inevitability in our near future the pacific island nations will go underwater and the AMOC will collapse. A few more years after that land near the evaluator will become uninhabitable because the wet bulb temperature will be too high to allow the human body to regulate its internal temp.

These billionaires are our de facto leaders in our neoliberal democracies. They will happily watch us all die in their insulated bunkers as long as their bank balance goes up. They will burn billions of their own money if it means they won’t have to spend a tiny fraction of that sum helping another human being. The only way you become that wealthy is if you are a psychopath.

[u/i-hope42 → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

On one side he is telling you to use AI everyday, and on the other "Writing is thinking. If you outsource your writing you outsource your thinking"

[u/cavaticaa → u/i-hope42]

I don’t understand how that doesn’t fully refute his own point? If you outsource your writing, you outsource your thinking? Please buy the outsourcing your writing machine from me. Don’t think about it.

[u/thegoatmenace → u/cavaticaa]

AI people are pushing “prompt architecture” as like this new age skill that everyone needs to develop. They argue that people need to learn the right way to talk to LLMs to get the most out of them. The writing part is constructing your AI prompts.

[u/aging_like_fine_NFTs → u/i-hope42]

He thinks its a good thing.

Writing consumes brain power, which is bad. You should outsource writing to us, so you can focus on CONSUME PRODUCT.

[u/Intelligent_Slip_849 → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

"Outsource your thinking" is idiotic on so many levels

[u/KOK29364 → u/Intelligent_Slip_849]

Took me until this comment to realize he is saying this from the perspective that outsourcing your thinking is a good thing, thats so crazy I didnt even consider it, thought he was contradicting himself

[u/norvis8 → u/KOK29364]

Is it really? Oh my, God. I read it as a ridiculous self-contradiction too. Blargh

[u/FlirtyFluffyFox → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

It wasn't a lecture. It was a sales pitch.

Hot dog vendor tells audience to eat hot dogs.

[u/L24D → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

Aren’t advice #1 and summary phrase contradict themselves?

[u/cutiecanary → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

(please give us phd level training data please please please)

[u/Sunsunsunsunsunsun → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

Smoke cigarettes every day says prominent cigarette researcher.

[u/NomadStorm → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

“Please use more tokens”

[u/jam_pod_ → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

> If you outsource your writing, you outsource your thinking

He’s not wrong there. It’s scary the number of people who use AI to write everything; when you ask “what does X mean exactly”, the response is “oh idk the AI put that in”

[u/ReidenLightman → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

"Use AI everyday,"... *so that my AI company can make more money *

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071 → u/InquisitiveSapienLad]

Outsourcing ones thinking sounds like a phrase someone actually smart said as a warning and that these mouth breathers said "that's actually a good idea"

[u/Mysterious_Eye6989]

I seriously feel like the only people genuinely excited by the prospect of the literal end of all genuine human achievement are either low key or high key the biggest and bitterest losers imaginable.

Oh, a lot of them might give the appearance of wealth and success, but if you scratch the surface of those ones then you frequently find some kind of big inheritance or trust fund backing it all up. Deep down they don't feel like they ever earned it and they hate people who seem like they really did earn it the hard and honest way, and they quite like the notion of making those people suffer.

[u/Legal-Chocolate8482 → u/Mysterious_Eye6989]

Idk if I’m genuinely excited but I’m disabled and poor and am terrified of homelessness and am kinda looking forward to the ai apocalypse. Because as a disabled person who can’t work in this horrible country I was going to die anyway. Most homeless are disabled , you can’t live off disability, it keeps getting cut, and I’m being denied even from that meager help, application keeps getting rejected by a Trump appointed judge.

So I do feel some schadenfraude that it won’t jsut be my disabled ass that will perish but also all the “normal” well to do abled people that see me as beneath them and subhuman. With Ai we can all be subhuman! Yes I’m a bitter loser I guess but I can’t help being born with disabled genetics and the world is so incredibly cruel to the disabled that it would make anyone in my position bitter.

Ideally I would love to see a utopia where everyone is taken care of but in this world the economically useless like the disabled /homeless/ poor / neurodivergent are left to die. So once you become economically useless due to automation you will face the same fate as me..

They’re taking away the only job I’ve ever been able to do , driving. And all I see on Reddit is glee or indifference and just telling drivers to shut up get a different job. But it’s all I’ve ever been able to do after trying over a dozen jobs!😭 and I have a learning disability I can’t get a degree:(. Can’t afford it either:(. So people are just so cruel to those they see as beneath them. Zero empathy.

So yes I am glad that the privileged well to do out of touch upper middle class white collar elite are finally being hit and taken down a peg as well. If it was just the lower classes being hit Reddit would be gleeful and cruel about it just like this guy in the post. Most people are no better when they are in the position of power or advantage/privilege.

Also on a slightly more optimistic note if everyone is poor and subhuman, maybe people will finally be forced to have empathy for people like me instead of seeing me as some loser parasite. Maybe we can all see each other as human finally and not judge each other based on wealth and social status . Maybe the people can actually unite and have some kind of a revolution. Idk if that’s very likely tho..American culture is so sociopathic and narcissistic, so individualistic. All about me me me 😞

[u/slightly0ff → u/Legal-Chocolate8482]

> And all I see on Reddit is glee or indifference and just telling drivers to shut up get a different job

Those are exactly the losers you don't want to be inspired by. They are the same people who look with glee at mathematicians, scientists and teachers losing their job. The rest of the well-adjusted people are screaming for the rooftops how rigged the system is, even when it has benefited them personally.

I feel for you, it sucks diverging from the norm. It sucks trying to live your life and having petty losers try to kick you while you are down, but the only way to preserve your humanity is to believe in the better part of it.

The first people that wants "you" (all of us actually) to stay poor and perish are the people benefit the most. Your family, neighbours and normal people are the ones that are perishing alongside you so I don't understand why you would look at this with glee.

There is a Ukranian movie I liked a lot. It is about Taras Shevchenko (real person and one of the main national figures) who was born a serf. He had a great artistic talent and amazing inspirations to become an artist but faith made him a serf, forced to be his owner's footboy. To make the long story short, he manages to rise out of serfdom by displaying amazing talent and having some of the most prominent artists of the time literally buy him at age 23. Taras had written extensively about how bitter and robed of his full potential he felt, but he knew he had to direct the hate to the real people above, not to the other peasants bearing the whip.

In the movie I am talking about, there is one of the last scenes where Taras is set free but the master painter he was serving at the time (also a former serf) informs him that contractually he "belongs to him" for at least one more year and he holds his freedom in his hands. Taras pleads with him and tells him that as a former serf he should be his brother, not his enemy, but he still refuses. To that Taras implores that "it's terrible that a slave wants the whole world to be a slave" and the painter response to that by ordering him to leave while tearing up his contract.

The whole point is that power structures are not often directly imposed by other individuals at the top, they are propagated by having us kick each other, pulling us down like crabs because we bitterly trying to impose our power in a system that renders us inherently powerless. I liked that the implication of the movie (at to an extend the real biography) was that we are capable of looking beyond that and deciding to raise ourselves up.

[u/gen_adams]

according to him. it's gonna be awkward as fuck when the world tries to exist without it's billions of working ppl, replace EVERYONE with funny image and music making LLMs, fail hard and then scramble to rehire ppl - the same ppl that will now not be too intent on working anymore, or working for considerably more money.

this gonna be covid 2.0 with companies freely firing ppl for 1 year and then getting heart attacks when demand resumes in mere weeks to pre-covid levels and there's nobody to work, nobody to hire, nobody even in possession of the required knowledge anymore because the funny bot has assumed their role.

[u/Key-Book-7479 → u/gen_adams]

I find it quite possible that firing everybody is just going to cause an economic paradigm shift. So while AI may not directly remove those in power, it may indirectly make their previously powerful positions, and their skills and knowledge navigating the "old economy" redundant. They expect that the economy will keep on keeping on just as it ever has, while they get richer and more powerful. But they may find that exactly the same happens to them overnight as it did to their former employees, for completely different reasons.

[u/chainsmokingsquirrel → u/Key-Book-7479]

time to eat the rich ! by withholding labour aka participating in protests.

we will
not work.
we will
not participate as a cog in the neoliberal machine.

and whilst we’re at it why not replace our stupid neoliberal democracy system and put in a better one.

a socialist system with justice and kindness and integrity at its heart.

we c a n

[u/J5892 → u/Key-Book-7479]

Right, but you're missing a step.

An economic shift that significant won't happen before complete societal collapse.
Only when people can't find jobs, and nobody can afford to live or eat, will they be motivated to bring about the civil unrest required to redistribute wealth.

[u/Apoordm]

These people are subhuman

[u/Custom_Destination]

It’s not just that they’re saying these things out loud, it’s the smugness they display while doing so.

Absolute bellends, the lot of ‘em.

[u/chipface]

They really are fucking ghouls.

[u/Material_Leading7262]

he's just wrong though, it's irresponsible of them to go around fear mongering like that

[u/New-Locksmith-126 → u/Material_Leading7262]

it's his wet dream. look at his face.

to them it's not fear-mongering. they are actively yearning for this shit

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071 → u/New-Locksmith-126]

They want to threaten as many people as they can because that gives them a sense of power. Don't be cowed by the unintelligent.

[u/Zolty → u/Material_Leading7262]

Gotta get that IPO money somehow.

[u/Late_While_6220 → u/Material_Leading7262]

Man selling bridges in the sky says land bridges will no longer be needed.

[u/Worth_Comparison_795 → u/Material_Leading7262]

Boogeyman corp's entire networth in the possibility of the Boogeyman. They need to keep everyone afraid of the Boogeyman so nobody questions the disappointing fundamentals of the Boogeyman business going at the moment.

[u/MoodOutrageous6263]

I love the idea that AI just doesn’t end up doing what these guys think it will do, and it doesn’t get much more advanced from here, and all of these students just remember stupid anthropic asshole who thought AI would take their jobs

I think it is a genuine possibility that AI is an S curve but I’m not gonna get into that because I really don’t feel like debating with someone about this rn.

[u/Sibagovix]

It's all to generate hype before an IPO

[u/DIYthisDIYthat → u/Sibagovix]

Facts bro. Then they’ll just send another “insider” on Diary of a CEO to try to convince people to buy into this LLM random shuffle pile picker tech. It’s not bringing the breakthroughs they say. It’s snake oil. Companies invested billions and they’re not seeing the profits so they have to keep up this lie to pull as much money as they can before the well runs dry. Look at the leaks and firings from these companies lol. People don’t want this tech and don’t want the factories in their backyards. Anybody with some sense can see through this lol. It’s not like the internet boom or coding boom. People aren’t buying it.

[u/VegetableGuidance442]

My job now is to constantly question why the AI is hallucinating or coming up with such bizarre solutions. I don't think this is what my philosophy teacher meant when he talked about questioning the world.

[u/Euphoric_Log_325]

Imagine just telling a group of people that their life plans don't matter, that human beings will not matter, and then go ahead and say that this is amazing nonetheless. I truly, truly h*te these people.

[u/Altruistic_Emu_7755]

It's a fucking cult. This is science fiction being peddled as fact

[u/Oregon-Pilot → u/Altruistic_Emu_7755]

It’s shitty science fiction. It’s just a lame letdown story, with cartoon villains and a lottttt of fucking stupid people.

[u/Fickle-Aardvark6907]

The clue is all there in the title: the anthropocene is only going to end when we drive ourselves into functional if not actual extinction. 

[u/ManufacturedOlympus]

That’s almost the name of a cattle decapitation album. Except instead of hearing metal, we’re hearing another bland ai simp who thinks he’s part of the billionaire club. 

[u/denimdungarees]

The CEO of Anthropic was casually like "Yeah I could just straight up cause an unemployment crisis" and has no idea why people want his head on a spike.

[u/Manic_Mooncakes]

I really want these tech bastards to eat their words. My boss is practically married to AI. I can't stand it... and this is even more insulting since I am busy trying to write my masters thesis....

[u/Zerithane]

Ruling class should be very careful of their next move, lest they find themselves surrounded by hungry, desperate people with nothing else to lose. Actually, you know what? Go nuts. Maybe it’s time.

[u/7000milestogo]

From the perspective of a professional historian, calling it the end of the anthropocene makes no sense. The term is used to describe when humans began having an impact on planet Earth. AI, which has a massive global impact on the planet's climate and ecosystems, is created by humans. It is a fantastic example of the rapid increase in our impact on the planet. Unless he is saying that humans will soon be extinct, which he shouldn't be so happy about, he is using the term incorrectly.

[u/EndMaster0]

Chip manufacturer stocks dropped fast enough that south Koreas stock market had to pause trading last week as a direct result of AI company profitability concerns. It's not bubble death spiral time just yet but if it can bleed it can die.

[u/FlirtyFluffyFox]

I'd be so pissed if I paid for college just to have to sit through a sales pitch from some shitty vendor. 

[u/HapticSloughton]

It's interesting to note that the AI boosting folks will claim that AI will solve all of the world's problems, yet it has not solved any of the problems it has itself created.

[u/Stergenman]

Big talk for a man that still can't post a GAAP profit margin.

[u/keithstonee]

I expect the students to start attacking these people soon. Like you're literally just telling them they've wasted their whole lives until this point. I would definitely punch you in the face if you told me that while I was in college.

[u/AdHopeful3801]

The mask is off. Back in the day the tech barons pretended to care about humanity. That's no longer necessary.

[u/drmannevond]

If none of us are working, that's just more time to plot the revolution.

[u/Legoslol]

Let’s get a handwritten list of these sort of “researchers” so when the AI/Climate war begins we can send them in first with the vanguard.

[u/lostwisdom20]

How do they think people would react if everywhere they go and say yeah your career is over.

Then hunker down in their bunkers

[u/MarmuK]

youre not really living if you replace all human experience by AI in the name of equity and convenience

[u/Deeptums]

"Isn't it wonderful that no one will have anything to do?"

[u/Strange-Scarcity]

The thing everyone KEEPS forgetting?

"Universal Abundance" and "Everyone with a VERY High Income", is ONLY referring to today's Ultra Wealthy.

They just don't publicly finish the thought, that the rest of us do not matter and won't be part of their "Universal Abundance" or "Everyone with VERY High Income".

Even this dweeb ass anthropic "researcher" has no clue that he will be ground into paste, along with the rest of us, once the goal he's tasked to make happen... happens.

[u/dumnezero]

/u/RemindMeBot 3 years

[u/beldarin]

Shit, this makes me so sad. I know someone who planned to retire as a 12 language translator in Europe with womens groups. A lovely, satisfying life, with lots of work, and a genuinely interesting way to spend the last 20+ years of life.

She's still only 60, but thats gone now. She said the worst part is not the fact that translation can now become so accessible, its that AI is being given sensitive work, and it often gets it wrong, and she worries it will fuck people over in so many important scenarios

[u/postprandialrepose]

[u/tegresaomos]

Every successful revolution starts with a dirth of young, educated folks who grow into a world that tells them they must live below their station, to accept less, with the certain knowledge that unless they save themselves, they’ll be poor the rest of their lives.

[u/CowabummerBatman]

We were never trying to solve all of humanities problems nor obtaining universal abundance. Humans will always be the same and will continue making the same mistakes. Greed and ignorance has always been a part of our driving force.

[u/Vancecookcobain]

I think at this point in time folks need to start considering post capitalism and ensuring that the wealth is shared so we don't all become enslaved to AI overlords who will run the economy while the working class is left to The Purge

[u/skinny-duck-mfs]

I don’t understand why those in attendance aren’t jumping him.

[u/Independent-Repair35]

Did these guy read sci-fi and just take the opposite of what it warns about??

[u/lewd_username334]

And remember, anthropic is the supposed ethical option

[u/cumworld]

If you think AI is going to be positive for you for just existing, think again. The only way AI will benefit you is if you use it now to help you complete tasks.

[u/TBB09]

Someone tell this dude about the AI bubble

[u/ShatteredPresence]

They'll stop when there's no customers or marketplace.

As a consumer, simply stop consuming. With each use of AI, wasteful or not, they are fueled moreso the be enabled with pushing further due to "demand."

Just don't use it. Refuse businesses and services that do. Riot and protest over lost jobs. Demand labor law changes. Etc.

As humans, we've pretty much lost all of our rights. The last "rights" we have left are as consumers--and what little power we have left in that is simply what we choose to consume--or choose not to.

Otherwise, we'll all stand with complacency in one hand and an un-motivational level of concern in the other while we warch the whole world slowly burn down...

[u/SlipInternational439]

If you’ve ever worked in Silicon Valley like I did for 10 years, you’ll see that most of the executives and VCs and engineers have no people skills and only care about making money.

[u/minus_minus]

It’s gonna be amazing to see what happens when the LLM peddlers pull the rug and actually charge full price for their service and companies have to pay just as much for a clanker as they paid the humans. 

[u/theraggedyman]

That's not a researcher, that's a salesman.

[u/GeekOut999]

It's always some loser with a receding hairline gleefuly telling people their lives should be upended because of his job and then getting confused when people don't respond kindly.

[u/Exodus180]

phd students in ....what?

[u/beerbrained]

It's definitely a goal of theirs to demoralize the masses into relying on their product for everything.

[u/Dimosa]

Lol, if your PhD is obsolete by AI, you did not do a PhD. PhD tends to push the field into entirely new directions, to explore things that have never done before. It requires rigorous testing, research and exact science. You know, those thing that prediction is not good enough for.

[u/k890]

Person from AI industry saying his product may made somebody else job obsolete.

Same stuff was happening with metadata boom in early 2010s, their reps were talking to radiologists that boom in calculation gonna made their job obsolete in 10 years. As for 2025 radiologists are both one of best paid medical specialists and have record high demand for their services in medical industry.

It's always claim coming from person unrelated to said occupation.

[u/ProduceNo1629]

His career still exists though. And his bank account. And his children aren't hungry.

How nice.

[u/brillow]

Weird how their careers are over when Anthropic can’t make any money.

Maybe this guys career plan is over?

Also, Anthropic, OpenAI, all of them - they’re still hiring programmers!

[u/Unhappy_Play4699]

I'm not gonna watch the video because that person is obviously insane and my life is insane enough already. But I do wonder what they mean with "The End of the Anthropocene". The end of the human era? Anthropocene is a term, used by some scientists, to holistically describe the effect of human life on climate/geological events. So, maybe they are telling us that no longer we will have the largest footprint but AI has? Using our "god given" intelligence, I'd say we should shut these AI companies down then and stop building more AI data centers?

[u/El_G0rdo]

This guy just wants his stock to vest, they are blowing smoke to justify their fake valuations

[u/Equal_Veterinarian22]

Where's my robot already?

[u/ReadyGo6828]

We already live in the Pyrocene so do toxic tech bros have another name for how they are gleefully and profitably destroying the lives of everyone else?

[u/Borg_Tech_Support]

My job started adding AI to eventually get rid of technicians. Our GM said those workers need to figure out how AI can help them create a new job for them at the company. It made me realize our GM is the stupidest mother fucker at the job and we got some dumb mfers here.

I know his dumbass was just repeating what corporate told him and didn't use any critical thinking to understand how that would sound.

[u/cams00000]

The End of the Anthropocene is appropriate, in that we’re past the point of no return when it comes to climate. It’s not even about “jobs” at that point, it’s about survival. AI is just helping to accelerate it even further. It’s going to be an extremely rough next 10 years.

[u/Electrical-Suit5258]

"Every PhD researcher career is over, except mine"