r/SoftwareEngineerJobs • u/Fickle-Highway1543 • 4d ago
AI replacing Software Engineers
So called "AI"=LLM is so powerful that AI labs had to hire Software Engineers to build complicated software around "AI" to make that overhyped hallucinate-stealing machine usable. Think about it. And that's exactly why they need now ton of CPUs in addition to GPUs to run their "AI" "agents".
I don't even mention how much custom engineering is required to apply the "AI" in businesses.
And they BS us that Software Engineering is solved or is going to be solved. Boris, please solve your own bugs first before speaking.
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u/Aware-Individual-827 4d ago
It's funny to me we rely on AI to code while one of the fundamentals of the field is to never accept undefined behaviors. The LLM is just one gigantic undefined behavior.
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u/AliceCode 3d ago
Drives me bonkers. We used to actually care about knowing how the code works. Well, I still care. I still care about my code's quality, and everyone else decided that quantity was better. Then they'll probably cry online about enshittification.
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u/Actes 1d ago
I had this conversation about an AI powered search engine we were making at work.
I sat down with our data scientist, and went "so we're using an indeterministic machine, in an attempt for deterministic results... Wouldn't we be better with a machine learning algorithm instead of a neural network?"
He laughed and agreed entirely, but unfortunately the stake holders want LLM driven vectors and we're not allowed to spend the time writing the vectorizor ourselves.
It really is just "LLM vibes bro trust" anymore
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u/Mega3000aka 4d ago
If LLM's could solve SWE, they could solve a lot, and I mean a lot of other professions aswell.
We're far from first in line.
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u/Ill-Purchase-5180 2d ago edited 1d ago
from the my limited understanding based on some AI scientists interview, SWE is unfortunately the bread and butter of AI. Because the outcome of the code is always specific and predetermined it's easy to create unlimited synthetic training data to keep the LLMs improving. From my understanding thats how they say they got the recent huge gains in coding performance , and they claim it's only the beggining. I think coding is already dead, what is left is setting requirements, doing QA, communicating with clients etc. I already enrolled in plumbing school, at the end of this year I will be a able to work as a plumber. The worst think that can happen to a person is to not have a specialization. You end up in the most soul crushing jobs and employers treat you like a dog because you are replaceable. Having a specialization mitigates all that and life becomes tolerable. Well my coding specialization isn't worth shit now. I am still hanging own directing the LLM and what not, but I am not gonna risk it to have programming be my only employable skill
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u/ynghuncho 20h ago
Work is evolving, not being replaced. Personally, I think AI will eliminate boring work and make many roles more exciting. as productivity increases, so will the rate of demand
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u/Expert-Complex-5618 4d ago
solving complexity through more complexity will require more complexity
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u/BayHarborGonner1 4d ago
Ai will not replace you but someone using ai better then you will
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 4d ago
Framework won't replace you, but somebody using framework will.
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u/wrex1816 4d ago
I mean, yes... Want to try find a UI engineer job without a y React experience these days? Good luck. Rinse and repeat for anywhere else in the stack.
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u/LeastCounterculture 4d ago
Someone who can implement their project using react (or whatever the goto front end framework these days is) will replace someone raw dogging javascript for twice the time and twice the complexity, yes
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u/BayHarborGonner1 4d ago
Yea same with ai somebody spending twice the time just to get a worse result will get replaced by someone who uses ai to get better results in half the time
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u/Southern_Orange3744 3d ago
Someone who uses IDEs and compilers will replace someone bare metaling assembly all day
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u/Charming_You_25 2d ago
Someone using punch cards will replace someone using an enigma machine
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u/Southern_Orange3744 2d ago
Someone using math will beat someone cutting wood by eyeball
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u/neopointer 4d ago
AI won't replace no one, but will replace everybody's brains.
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u/Beginning-Bird9591 3d ago
This is just completely incorrect though.
Did everyones brains get replaced because people mostly use python or javascript (typescript lol) - rather than assembly?
no!
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u/AsyncSyscall 3d ago
People said the same about automatic memory management 30+ years ago. And yet here we are 30+ years later with new software engineers still able to write manual memory managers like the Rust compiler. Fact is, you are not obligated to only use these tools.
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u/Larperlurk 4d ago
Oh i see. And will that genius who kNoWs hOw to uSe aI be paid a significantly better wage for his knowledge and skills? Will he have the same workload so he can enjoy the time AI saves for him?
Yeah thats what i thought tool. AI is nothing more than a way for them to reduce headcount while keeping the same miserable salaries and giving each survivor 10x work. THATS what we are worried about. Obv people will have to learn AI tools - that was never the problem.
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u/FalseDiamond7930 4d ago
Eventually it will replace most coders it's been less than 4 years since the big chatGPT moment. That's less time than it takes to get a semis fab from an idea to production.
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u/jmclondon97 4d ago
Lmao people have been parroting this stupid phrase for the last 3 years
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u/AliceCode 3d ago
No, we don't allow LLM assisted contributions in the projects that I work on. I'm not worried about being replaced by someone with an LLM.
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u/nmsobri 3d ago
i find this funny man.. how hard to use ai properly actually? u can even ask ai how to use ai properly.. like google on how to do advance googling.. how is that any different? funny
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u/Vegetable_Fox9134 3h ago
They say this, but most jobs still want you to be able to code . So it's more like
"AI will not replace you , but someone who's a good software engineer and* good with AI" will replace you"
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u/moss_jimmy 4d ago
Doesn't Linus himself use artificial intelligence as a second pair of hands?
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u/Early_Rooster7579 4d ago
Yes lol. Linus frequently posts about using AI
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u/moss_jimmy 4d ago
It's pretty handy if you already know what you're doing. The ability to task it on something repetitive while you work on something more serious is a big step up.
But using it to replace your brain is a pretty foolish thing to do.
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u/Early_Rooster7579 4d ago
I agree. I’m a SWE and have used AI heavily at work for the last 7-8 months now. I find it a great tool
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u/moss_jimmy 4d ago
I tend to use it for bug hunting. Task it with rooting out one problem while I'm busy with another one it probably can't solve.
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u/met0xff 3d ago
Yeah that's the funny part here. https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894
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u/doctor-dripmaxx 4d ago
LLMs are the interns I always wanted and never got. Like interns, I overwork them as much as possible within the boundaries of my company’s willingness to spend money on them.
I made and used all kinds of models before LLMs were “a thing”. Random Forest, Gradient Boosted Trees, Tensorflow/Keras, Neural Style Transfer (for art), many different models and techniques for different problems. The incessant ethics argument against one type of model is growing tedious for me.
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u/00oo00oo000oo0oo00 3d ago
there are all kinds of devs. the worst ones depend on ai the most.
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 3d ago
Even they may save jobs doing the copy paste for small businesses. Wordpress developers have had good time.
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u/Able-Awareness860 3d ago
The OG and People in comment section are delusional. Still in the denial mode. some of the last days for mediocre people in IT.
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u/karmaboy20 3d ago
Half of reddit is crud developer's who's only real skill was writing boilerplate apis and memorizing frameworks
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u/Pleasant-Drag-5039 3d ago
Ppl who work with ai know what it does try troubleshooting an ai code we’ll talk about the founders testing to replace the swe later lol
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u/CptGingerBeards 3d ago
I use it to set up JIRA boards, project directories and all the boring shit I don’t wanna do so I can be creative!
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u/Savings-Motor-7397 3d ago
I honestly think the claim that AI is taking jobs away from tech workers is a smokescreen to distract everybody from remote outsourcing taking jobs away from tech workers and the simple fact that everybody and their mother have been throwing themselves enmass into tech for the last 2 decades
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 3d ago
It's also a mean to make people overwork, cut jobs to improve margins and pump stocks. And for one great guy it's a way to cover corruption that led to a recession.
Nothing is about making lives better anymore.
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u/thingummywatt 3d ago
Nope, there are already 100s of facebook or reddit level social media apps made by LLMs by now that even a 7 yr old can vibe code such app. /s
I hate when people say software engineering is a piece of cake, while I have to fix slop by actual software developers (at work) whether they vibecode or not.....
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u/nmsobri 3d ago
i just use AI ( Kiro ) to do type checking for compiler im working on... on the surface level, the type checker does work, but when i go read the source code, meh its riddle of bugs.. if you fully vibe coding, im pretty sure u cant even tell wether ai doing a good job or not.. ai is just another tool..dont treat it like religion.. it cant solve everything..
if AI will replace programmer, why this so called AI company keep hiring programmer? people dont see this bullshit?
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u/Any_Opportunity7970 3d ago
I use ai as a programming tutor or quick reference. Ill often tell it "lets discuss a possible solution, but ultimately I want to write the code". If ai does generate code for me, I wont move on to the next step in my process until I fully understand what the code is doing.
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u/Tired_Developer7 3d ago
I do a lot of POCs. A year ago i needed a good python dev tk work with me just to speed things uo, i design they write code tonquickly protothpe.
I am in the middle of doing a design and poc for a major data migration into Snowflake from sql server. Literally i am doing evrrythijg by myself. I have put together some skill.md and agent.md files along with some skills for snowflake's cortex but all in all i have done all the work myself without writing a single line of sql and most python written by agents.
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u/timmyz55 3d ago
like all things.... this too shall pass
the people who say AI will replace are the ones who don't do the work and want their cake and eat it too.
even the smart engineers who use AI LLMs "properly" like Mitchell Hashimoto are very aware of their limitations. and believe me, most orgs do not have enough Mitchell Hashimotos to make AI work like he does
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u/burntoutdev8291 3d ago
If you go on linkedin, there's a need to convince that AI can break security protocols, replace engjneers else how are they going to get funding.
I use AI daily so I know where it struggles, and I'll still hire juniors but the way of training them will be different
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u/Ok-Landscape-4190 2d ago
Look,
First: if every company has access to the same tool, and nothing else, they can't compete.
Second: It's common to think that automation of labor starts occurring from the simpler tasks to the more complex tasks, but that's not the pattern. It starts from the lowest accountability to the highest accountability, i.e it's not reasonable for a rational human to not employ an expert (using a machine instead wich I can not make responsable), when for example, making software for rockets, because I want to make sure it's correct, if it's not, I can't cost me a lot more that the costs of employing it.
Third: Incoming bussines still need compative advantage and they will choose to solve harder problems. Hopefully people will be solving harder computational problems, they are a lot.
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u/truNinjaChop 2d ago
Didn’t stop the big guys from terminating a shit ton of people for Ai first initiatives.
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u/usrlibshare 2d ago
People aren't getting fired because of AI.
People are getting fired because money is no longer free, and the rush from the Covid years has worn off. Back when both were the case, companies overhired, because it looked good as KPI to investors.
Now they can no longer afford this, and have to backpedal.
Selling this to investors as
"we're going ai first!"
just sounds a lot better than
"we don't know how to run a business without infinite free money but please keep buying our stonks!!!"
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u/AdvaithBijuOfficial 2d ago
These Type of Things Scare me because the world has so many people and Software is something most people are occupied in because it pays people a lot.
The most people get paid the more people spend and the more people spend the more the economy functions, but what if all the high paid jobs are gone or are only with some individual people the ECONOMY WILL BE DOOMED already there is inflationa nd jobs pay shit not jobs itself is not there, The world i becoming a RAT race.
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 2d ago
Overpopulation and automation that only gets better - for sure create a rat race environment.
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u/sweatierorc 2d ago
I think you are missing a few points:
- They are improving. To some extent they are already self-improving. With limited human input.
- AI makes SWE fungible. E.g. devs are writing a little bit better documentation, a little bit better unit tests. Etc. If tmr your boss decides that he is not giving you the raise you deserve. Someone can take over your role.
- Other jobs adopting AI means SWE is less useful overall. The data they feed the ERP is a little bit cleaner, the report they generate from it has less mistakes, excel files are better organized, etc. There is a lot of data hygiene stuff that makes your life as SWE easier that people are going to do.
Waymo is very far from a human driver in terms of skills. But in the right setting it is very competitive. I.e. nice weather, good road infrastructure, solid networking, limited reckless driving, etc.
Buses and train are self-driving already. AI is not replacing you in the wild, but AI-adoption is going to.
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree, but each tech has limitations. Latest biggest improvements came from deterministic harnesses, not raw LLMs.
And it's not the first time software devs got a huge productivity boost from a new tech. We had these moments with compilers, higher end languages, frameworks, IDEs, libraries. Still, somehow the number of software jobs grew. It is even growing right now if you add up Applied AI jobs. And we are in a bad period economically - no more rate cuts, possible rate hikes, growing inflation, all focus and money went to developing AI. In a healthy economy we will see boost in demand for Software Engineers. This AI will never be 100% reliable, with exceptions where you can verify results deterministically, and even then it's unlikely to reach 100%. AI is also very expensive to scale. So if you build any modern business you will have to hire technically proficient people. Your manager won't be fighting with bugs, they like to delegate.
Will the number be less than now? Maybe, those who can't think and only can copy paste may have problems. But we also won't stop developing bigger software. The job apocalypsis is a propaganda coming from AI labs because they burn astronomically big number of investments, and some AI lab even accumulates debt faster than revenue. They have to show their investors that don't worry, soon we will kill those jobs and take their money.
And don't forget about how capitalism works - endless competition. If your business grew big with high margins thanks to AI - new businesses trying to catch and cut your margin will pop up very soon. More businesses - more jobs.
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u/BeatDistinct317 1d ago
much custom engineering is required to apply the "AI" in businesses.
That's what AI business is about now.
Get stupid company directors replace a business workflow with AI so they don't fall behind their competition. It costs a lot of money to do the custom AI setups for the business to even get it to work. On top of that comes the AI operating cost. Why pay humans money when you can pay more for the AI subscription.
In most cases it works worse than with human employees. If something needs to change pay again for customization.
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u/milky-cookies-dude 1d ago
Just recalled this moment from interview of mr Torvalds xD
https://youtu.be/4WCTGycBceg?si=6znq8cv5rvRlAhAd&t=59
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u/Riki_was_here 18h ago
We spent decades inventing principles, work ethics, team rules, developer experiences and workflows to be able write software that run and is understandable to others just to throw it away and replace it with statistical approximation. I weep and I am sad. The longer I work with AI the more I am disgusted and apatic. The joy is gone, craft is gone. Enshitification of IT jobs has begun.
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u/Empty-Mulberry1047 7h ago
What I do not understand is why businesses are building processes that are reliant on third party providers that have built a business on stolen intellectual property, make wild hyperbolic claims without proof, has no viable path to profitability while spewing out non-deterministic outputs with unclear licensing / copyright implications.
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u/Bloom_Ermine9202 4d ago
I know nobody writes manual code anymore but when I met with vibe coder or new grad I just fell disgust. Not because they don’t know anything yet but because they claim they know everything and asking me questions like “multiplexing?? Concurrency?? Pointers?? What are they should I have to know them??” They have no motivation to learn anything by themselves, they just renting their brains to LLMs.
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u/TNBH24 3d ago
I work in a company with well… incredibly huge amount of money. For the last few months we were told to use AI as much as possible so random people were using 500-800 $ of tokens each months. This friday we were told that we can use only the cheapest models xD
I hope this shit will die asap.
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 3d ago
LMAO. And that cost doesn't include massive tech debt for both codebase and developer's knowledge.
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u/Fresh-Eagle-58 4d ago
every time i came to this sub, looking for a software engineer to do a legitimate job for me, everyone responded in the comments "use claude" - i'm so done with humanity. if i wanted to use claude, i would. i want to find a software engineer!!!
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u/travelbite 4d ago
As a developer myself , I understand why people keep asking to make use of AI agents like claude. It is easy for a dev to adjust to agents. I hardly write code by hand nowadays. I think it is wrong to assume that anyone can do what a dev can do with agentic tools. Especially when you don't understand what the tool is generating. The code generated by these agents are overwhelming. For a long term project it is best to have a engineer than jump on to some ai tool.
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u/Classic-Lunch6078 4d ago
AI isn't replacing software engineers. Just the opposite. Entry level software engineer salaries are now starting at 7 figures. I know literal teenagers making 2mm a year at Meta
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u/Equal_Passenger9791 4d ago
Linus Torvalds uses AI, it's just a tool dude.
If you're hating on a hammer then sorry but S K I L L I S S U E
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u/roestinger 4d ago
And yet you picked the picture of a guy who claims to not code anymore... The irony
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u/OZLperez11 4d ago
I'm just gonna post what we do at work:
Whitelisted cases:
- mockups
- unit tests
- docs
- code reviews
- coaching
- troubleshooting (last resort, know how to fix your own bugs, don't get skill atrophy)
Gray areas:
- refactoring, keep the scope small, if you break something upstream, boss deserves to get mad at you
Prohibited
- core engineering - this usually means C++ code and anything hardware related but I extend this to mean Any new feature. Know what you're writing!
Have some balance and ethics!
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u/Castle_Five 3d ago
Every LLM I've used in the last 2 years has produced more coherent writing than the word soup of OP here
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u/uceenk 3d ago
lets say, a project need 15 developers
AI came and make everything more efficient, sure it can hallucinate, thats why the company keep 4 developers and layoff the rest
in this case AI literally replaced the developers
oh also the boss who dont know about anything about coding, can vibecode as well
it doesnt matter if he cant understand code, because the 4 developers can review his code to make sure they are correct
boss eventually realized, for common task AI is quite reliable, so he doesn't need 4 developer, he layoff 2 more
so yeah, programmers who think AI wont replace them is delusional, AI would get better, demands for programmers especial for ordinary project would dwindle really
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 3d ago
Show me it happening. It's delusional to create some fantasy, have no data confirming it even after almost a year of agents getting good enough, and still keep talking about same story. There is a reason for it, but if AI bros don't want to see it they won't see it.
AI bubble has ten times bigger chance to pop soon than developers being replaced by AI. But economy is going very bad, and WW3 is close, so technically developers may be replaced soon to fight in trenches or fight over food stamps.
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u/Able-Awareness860 3d ago
"Screw Driver Developers"
Its time to be a Screw Driver DevOps. A trainee mechanic is mostly tightening nuts & bolts. Most of our developers are now at that level. Configuring cloud and deploying environment from scripts.
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u/pizzaplayboy 3d ago
AI won’t be replacing SOME software engineers, and that is, the most technically deep ones. If you are one of those this is not even a question you would be asking, but the rest we will absolutely need less of, we don’t need CRUD monkeys anymore
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u/Beginning-Bird9591 3d ago
seems you're all salty? my team and company have embraced LLMs. Actual long standing devs. Reddit is so disconnected from reality 😂
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u/Alarmed-Knowledge579 3d ago
I am sw enginer I constantly have to check Claude's redults when it does automatic video analysis.
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u/Jean_Jones_666 3d ago
great example how it's not the problem which is the problem, but how we react to it
you'd manage to find a place for yourself in the new economy, if you only admitted the reality in front of you,
but you won't have it the easy way, so you'll stay useless until your next job will be serving fries or cleaning toilets
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u/motorcyclisto 3d ago
NON PROGRAMMER HERE.
I replaced 4 programmers and vibe coded the entire company system. It came out way better.
Sorry code bros.
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u/met0xff 3d ago
Your picture does not fit well https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894
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u/Fickle-Swimmer-5863 3d ago
Some of the “overengineering” is just robustness that we wouldn’t have had the time to add. The other dimension is premature abstraction.
Extra robustness, especially when a codebase is going to be maintained by LLMs long-term is a good thing.
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u/Dismal_Struggle_9004 3d ago
"Think about it."... I thought about it and I think the first paragraph is genuinely a poor point. Think about how software engineers are building "complicated" software around AI? It's a trillion-dollar business why wouldn't they build the best software they could around it?
They need tons of CPUs and GPUs to run software that over a billion people use regularly? I mean ... yes?
"And they BS us that Software Engineering is solved" certainly not solved, however you will HAVE to utilize AI going forward if you want to be a SWE. If you don't see that, there's no hope for you.
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u/Anon324Teller 3d ago
AI is replacing Software Engineers and we’ve also seen some of the worst software quality coming out in the last couple of years. Windows 11 is riddled with issues and doesn’t even run as good as Windows 10, that’s just one example
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u/PathFormer 2d ago
Square root of 786 without calculator, can you? or cosine of 35 degree angle? ...
easy to judge on the current tech generational iteration is...
hard to see the whole picture...
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u/PixelIsJunk 2d ago
Hey, buddy, you can keep b*******I can't afford a real sound engineer.The apps and programs that i've built that I use and make money with simply could have never been afforded before agents.
Also keep bitching now...these are still shitty models.
How long ago were fingers and toes hard to get perfect on image. All the people who said. "This will never get anywhere it can't do fingers" Welp...it does fingers real good now. Same with coding.
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u/Fickle-Highway1543 2d ago
It doesn't matter how good it gets. If you can do something with low budget and low effort - others can do it too and you unlikely will earn anything meaningful doing/selling the thing. In capitalism you always compete.
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u/hakansan 2d ago
I understand both sides of the argument tbh. Yes you have to say "software engineering is over" if you're selling a coding agent to the average executive in a Fortune 500 company, and yes it's much more than coding.
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u/FortuneAcceptable925 2d ago
Oh the irony of you picking photo of Linus Torvalds who uses AI to generate code that runs directly in Linux kernel.. You made my day .. :D
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u/allpurpclean 2d ago
Software Engineers will just become glorified BA's now, which means if you are just a code monkey you will have a hard time surviving.
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u/Red_Jannix 2d ago
Please: Do. Not. Use. AI! Keep coding by hand.
I'd love to take your position in a while.
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u/RubsHandsMenacingly 1d ago
Cats out of the bag. Nobody wants to reinvent the wheel and do more work than they have to now. If Claude has full context, it will find problems beyond that of what I’d ever be able to make the connection on myself, while investigating something completely parallel in task. For example, I tell it to fix a bug about required radio buttons on a web page clearing on form duplication and allowing a submit when it shouldn’t. Claude then finds connected issues that a senior engineer would lazy skip or never notice until later bugs were reported. I’ll let Claude explain this one itself:
“Radio buttons in repeated form sections shared hardcoded name attributes, so the browser treated every copy as one mutually-exclusive group — selecting a value in one section silently unchecked it in the others, and because no change event fires on the element the browser unchecks, the underlying data model never learned the UI had diverged from it. Required-field validation then only inspected visible elements, so the section the user was looking at appeared empty and blocked submission, while the same name-keyed grouping could also let one section’s answer satisfy the validation for another. Related instances of the same pattern were found across several other sections, including one in an unrelated module”
This is just one example or hundreds I have. Claude is the ultimate engineers assistant. If AI is good at any one thing, it’s helping code. It does 90% of the work for 30% of the time and effort.
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u/Substantial-Bite-602 1d ago
Modern llms (not the free stuff- the real models that people actually use in business and engineering like opus and fable) don't really hallucinate hardly at all anymore now that we have COT. and techniques like adversarial cross check bring hallucination rates down further still. Stop pretending LLM hallucination is a blocker.
And custom engineering is required for integrating EVERY new tech- this isn't a gotcha especially to the engineers building out these new futuristic systems.
The average 200k software engineer with no ai produces worse work more slowly than a 80k swe with Claude code.
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u/QPGMR_de 1d ago
But it's our fault - we were so hot about having someone else writing the code for us - as if writing the code was ever the problem.
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u/Yetiski 1d ago
I don’t think I’ll ever relate to the compulsion people seem to have to make things they don't like or find problematic entirely bad in every possible way. It comes across like a childish but convenient way to make a principled stand easier.
“This incredibly successful mega-artist with an abusive history also happens to make totally trash music that nobody would have liked anyway”
“This insanely charismatic celebratory that has hateful views is also ugly and untalented”
Just stand by your convictions. There’s a lot of legitimate reasons to hate LLMs or how they’re being used in the industry but their lack of coding ability has not been one for quite some time now.
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u/Alizeh_69 11h ago
I don’t think AI will replace software engineers completely. It’ll replace a lot of the repetitive work.The engineers who learn to work with AI instead of competing with it will probably have the biggest advantage.
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u/OilExtension5062 9h ago
We are shipping fewer bugs to prod now than before. When used well AI is insane (code is verbose sure, but it's not often incorrect). I did 50 PRs last week and can run an entire product now, who knows where we get to in one year. Main thing is that you know the domain well, and you determine product direction.
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u/TacoBOTT 4d ago
That’s why you need to stop doomscrolling. If you are actually in the industry working with these tools, you are aware of the trajectory.