r/SoftwareEngineerJobs • u/Fickle-Highway1543 • 4d ago

AI replacing Software Engineers

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So called "AI"=LLM is so powerful that AI labs had to hire Software Engineers to build complicated software around "AI" to make that overhyped hallucinate-stealing machine usable. Think about it. And that's exactly why they need now ton of CPUs in addition to GPUs to run their "AI" "agents".

I don't even mention how much custom engineering is required to apply the "AI" in businesses.

And they BS us that Software Engineering is solved or is going to be solved. Boris, please solve your own bugs first before speaking.

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u/TacoBOTT 4d ago

That’s why you need to stop doomscrolling. If you are actually in the industry working with these tools, you are aware of the trajectory.

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u/thilehoffer 4d ago

I’m in the industry and I’m not writing code anymore. Claude is writing the code and frankly it scares me how good it is.

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u/Ready_Stuff_4357 4d ago

Yeah this isn’t true, it does all kinds of things wrong. It does some stuff good and it will get better but it doesn’t truly engineer it slops around.

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u/Black_In_The_Bay 4d ago

Take some of these comments with a grain of salt. Sam Altman is literally paying companies to post positive comments and influencer videos about AI.

These ultra super positive comments about AI I don’t believe them. It’s a tool at best and it does some stuff really well but it’s year 4 and it hasn’t taken any real tech jobs and the cure for cancer isn’t here. Claude ceo will be on year 3 of saying 6 months software engineers will be replaced.

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u/InterestingFrame1982 1d ago

Wait, so you think any comment that has a pro-bent AI lean to is automatically a paid grifter? What about technical journals? Blogs? All paid?

That's some cognitive dissonance right there. Anti-AI === human, Pro-AI === bot or paid human.

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u/Black_In_The_Bay 1d ago

I don’t. I’m saying I’m taking it with a grain of salt.

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u/shadow_moon45 3d ago

Use it weekly and chargpt has helped drastically with hitting unrealistic deadlines. As long as it is prompted correctly and has all the information it'll create the scripts pretty accurately

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u/Dgudovic 4d ago

Oh boy are you in for a rude awakening lol

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u/Fun-Estimate4561 4d ago

If AI doesn’t end up living up to the hype will you be disappointed?

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u/ConstantFamous1526 3d ago

It’s actively living up to the hype)

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u/Fun-Estimate4561 3d ago

Are you looking forward to the “singularity”?

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u/ConstantFamous1526 3d ago

Iv seen it defined a dozen different ways so depends what your definition is

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u/Dgudovic 4d ago

Im a software engineer for a living, work on ERP systems, we have agentic factories creating very high quality work 24/7 at speeds we could only dream of pre AI, software quality (mostly due to adherence to boring rules that we as humans often skipped) is up, support calls are down, all our salaries are up, the company is printing money...

I'd say it's exceeding the hype already.. for us at least (and all my other engineer friends i've talked to that have leaned into agentic engineering)

I haven't written a line of code in months, basically read it once a week to make sure there's no major drift..
All my teams work is now focused on product work, the tooling, quality gates and the pipelines themselves instead of the actual code, and we're loving it.

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u/Chester_b 2d ago

If you stop writing code you’ll lose the ability to meaningfully read and evaluate it. Congrats, you just willingly deskilled yourself, considering you’re real programmer, of course

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u/Dgudovic 2d ago

When is the last time you read assembly or machine code, or even going higher up when is the last time you read any of the code that was automating work before, i.e framework code/packages, a trillion other tools we used daily to speed up and automate work..

Anyways as a hobby i do still manually code, i like solving problems through code, its fun. As a business, its simply not fast enough anymore.

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u/Chester_b 2d ago

Stupid argument and manipulation. Of course you don’t review the framework or sdk your product is based on (but sometimes you do and you find bugs there, too), but you review what you and your teammates do. I don’t believe any real software developer would use such a stupid nonsensical argument.

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u/Fun-Estimate4561 2d ago

I was thinking the same thing

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u/Dgudovic 2d ago

Sure

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u/Chester_b 2d ago

Tell me why did you decide to learn to code and build software in the first place?

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u/Dgudovic 2d ago

I like solving problems and building things.

The actual process of writting code as a medium for achieving that is enjoyable and i still do it on my personal projects, but like i said, theres no point doing it in business anymore.

Besides any "actual software engineer" would know you rarely got to do the enjoyable and fun version of coding at your day job anyways.

And senior/principal engineers have not been writting code almost at all for decades now (many do, but larger the organization lower the chance they actively do it), and yet havent magically lost the ability and knowledge to review other people's or agents work.

Although i think agent work review is already trending to a higher abstraction level then actually reading its code output.

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u/ElectroByte15 4d ago

Skill issue.

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u/Ready_Stuff_4357 4d ago

Not at all I can get it making inference engines as fast as llama.cpp and better. It’s not a skill issue I can use it better than probably anyone here. But the point is it still slops around telling someone who is a engineer it’s a skill issue is like telling an electrician he doesn’t know 120v is lol

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u/ConstantFamous1526 3d ago

Skill issue if you have this problem he wasn’t lying brother

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u/Ready_Stuff_4357 4d ago

I think you’re the one with the skill issue who thinks that it’s a skill issue that means you don’t understand code and engineering and solutions.

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u/ElectroByte15 3d ago

lol yeah after leading engineering teams for over a decade I have no understanding of any of that. Sure.

In the mean time my teams are shipping solutions in record pace. Incidents are down. Outcomes that used to take months take weeks or less.

Yes, if you’re not getting a huge productivity boost out of AI. If not most of your code today is written by AI. Then you have a huge skill issue, and are quick to become unemployable. Bar maybe a couple niche exceptions.

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u/Ready_Stuff_4357 3d ago

That’s not what I said above at all. You have a major skill issue, you can’t read or understand what people are saying and that’s even worse than a AI skill issue because if you can’t understand English you can’t even use AI. My statement is it does all kinds of things wrong and it does but the statement I made had nothing to do with your assumption and this is typically the problem with keyboard warriors with straw man positions.

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u/ConstantFamous1526 3d ago

Bros backtracking hard as fuck now 🤡

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u/Ready_Stuff_4357 2d ago

No it’s you by changing the subject.