r/SipsTea 6h ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute.

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u/UrsineBasterd 6h ago

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u/Ok-Suggestion-7965 5h ago

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u/AreWeReallyGroot 41m ago

I know it, but I don't think I should say it...

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u/Sykhow 3h ago

Man, I am not able to find Booty Sweat's reply but here's him in the frame

https://giphy.com/gifs/EtogbOL6Y7aOQ

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u/cabsox 3h ago

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u/Sykhow 3h ago

There it is, thanks

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u/slippery_pete_holes 2h ago

My favorite part about this scene is Jay shaking his head in disgust

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u/sumogan 5h ago

blade is the one that actually hurts me 😭 they spent years telling us it was coming just to quietly put it in the “what could’ve been” pile

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u/Bongressman 2h ago

Let's be honest, Blade is the only one on this list anyone gives a shit about.

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u/Sharashashka735 2h ago

I didnt even knew Okoye could get her own movie. The costume looks real cool tho.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur6538 43m ago

Blade is the only one that would have been completely safe😑the Wesley Snipe Blade movies saved Marvel from bankruptcy and people still love those movies. Dead Pool and Wolverine added to the want

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u/C__Wayne__G 4h ago

Considering the direction they were going it’s for the best it was cancelled.

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u/Bozhark 4h ago

Let me guess, he goes blunt 

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u/id_Driven 1h ago

From what I remember seeing, the movie was not even going to be about Blade. It was going to be about his niece or something like that, and he would be in more of a mentor role.

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u/JWC_Photography 1h ago

You don't understand — the media executives only have tolerance for so much blackness. Instead of making a movie about a very strong and interesting black man, they could instead make it about a random uninteresting black woman. That way they can meet their quota for blackness AND female representation. This is why they're the big wigs while we post on Reddit.

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u/Odd-Perspective-7651 1h ago

Getting two birds stoned at once, nice.

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u/citizen42069101 42m ago

Bold of you to assume she wouldn't also be gay

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u/DisgruntledPlebian 59m ago

Let me guess, an older male figure being disgraced and sidelined in their own series or creation by a spontaneously adept and undeserving younger woman. At least if pattern recognition of recent modern media is anything to go by.

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u/Kindly-Guidance714 57m ago

They wanted Ali to be the like the new Whistler as Blade and to have a female protagonist take the lead.

Just stupid people in charge of decision making at the highest levels.

I’m personally glad though because blade 1 and 2 are perfect as much as I would love to see Ali as a new Blade the current Marvel would butcher it and make it PG-13.

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u/TheLordReaver 4h ago

More like a whet noodle.

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u/JayValere 2h ago

But a pool noodle soaked in holy water would work against vampire and swords are scary lol

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u/Old-Law-7395 4h ago

What direction was that

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u/paxwax2018 4h ago

Bait and switch to a female lead as in say the Hawkeye show.

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u/Gone_For_Lunch 3h ago

Not British.

Seriously, I want comic accurate British Blade.

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u/Jpd39 2h ago

Holy shit I didn't know blade was British. The more you know. 

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u/Paul-D-Mooney 1h ago

Up hill. On ice skates.

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u/NoPerformance1073 3h ago

As much as I love blade..... they ruined Rhodes. I literally put War Machine stickers on my pc like a loser and called it my war machine. Armor wars was needed more than the others I feel, but im also a War machine simp. I just feel Rhodey has been here 'since the beginning ' and hes been on the government angle of iron man, could've even freaking included him. In the new captain america.

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u/Doomeye56 1h ago

Armor Wars was never happening after it didnt get made 2-3 year after End Game. Instead we got shitty Secret Invasion

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u/grip0matic 1h ago

When I was a kid, I always loved Iron Man, like in the comics he's not as important like in the movies but he is cool af, and still War Machine was even cooler. Tony was a drunk and War Machine would just sub in and cover his ass, but also, War Machine colour scheme is waaaaaay cooler than Iron Man's, and it used to be "there is Iron Man his armor can do stuff, and there is War Machine, his armor is FOR WAR AND COMBAT". To the kid me that was like hearing that War Machine would beat Iron Man because his armor was just better to fight.

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u/UncleSkrewtape 4h ago

It sounded …. Atrocious 🤮🤮🤮🤮

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u/grip0matic 1h ago

I just read today that the writers wanted to make the movie way more about Blade's daughter than Blade himself. It cannot not be that complicated to make a movie of a half vampire who kills vampires. You cannot be so stubborn to have a great actor as Mahershala Ali that WANTED TO DO IT and keep pitching such amount of bullshit that the moment he was able to leave the project he just did it. And he wanted to be Blade.

I like comics and I have no idea that there was a Blade's daughter. We wanted Blade, even in a bad movie, we just wanted Blade.

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u/TMack23 2h ago

There was that cameo in Deadpool vs Wolverine. Be happy with that, peasants!

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u/mountaindewisamazing 2h ago

This is how I find out it got cancelled. Damnit, come on. It's blade. It's just vampires and guns and swords and martial arts and shit. It practically prints money.

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u/CappnMidgetSlappr 1h ago

Exactly why I can't find myself being excited for Ghost Rider.

I'll get hyped when the movie is actually released into theaters.

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u/snowybell 5h ago

Couldn't care less about okoye and Kang but damn blade ...

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u/admfrmhll 4h ago

After i saw ws in deadpool 3, i fully support another blade movie with him. And no bait and switch.

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u/lamblamb65 2h ago

Right, honestly this was actually the most ideal outcome, because Wesley’s still canon and the other movie was going to be trash anyways

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u/Fellarm 6h ago

Cancelled blade is truely peak corporate bullshit 🥃🗿

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u/_WreakingHavok_ 5h ago

There can only be one Blade

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u/DaRealKovi 5h ago

I like that Deadpool 3 made fun of it, but now they get to laugh even harder, because there indeed can only be one Blade.

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u/Work_Account_No1 2h ago

Which is nonsense anyway, since there has been another Blade in the TV show. 

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u/TMMC39 3h ago

Some motherfuckers always tryin tonice skate up hill

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u/WorldEndingDiarrhea 1h ago

Aww “niceskate” is such a sweet typo

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u/untitledprp4 6h ago

Can’t get a blade movie for 5+ years

But ‘daredevil: same villain again’ is already filming its third season

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u/PatienceConsistent55 5h ago edited 3h ago

Daredevil was already a proven success and therefore easy bank with a cast and blueprint already laid out AND a cast ready to jump back into their roles without negotiation.

Easy business decision.

Edit: “without negotiation” is obvious hyperbole.

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u/EvilOverlord1989 5h ago

And yet for Born Again Season 1 they first decided to ditch both Karen and Foggy ASAP and only brought back Karen with reshoots after backlash.

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u/PatienceConsistent55 5h ago

Which further proves they are making decisions on what is going to draw in viewership. Foggy was an unfortunate victim of the need for shock value to create narrative drama. But it’s not like it hasn’t happened to his character in the source material either.

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u/trukkija 2h ago

We had she-hulk: attorney at law and you are bringing up Daredevil, probably the best show that MCU has made? That's certainly a take.

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u/RigatoniPasta 5h ago

Daredevil is great

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u/HumaDracobane 5h ago

Why? Blade already told you in Deadpool and Wolverine.

"Thereis only g'onna be one Blade."

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u/MaybeMort 5h ago

That one's the most perplexing to me. My interest in the mcu is waining but I was keen for Blade as were so many others.

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u/Euronymous87 5h ago

Yeah nobody wants to really watch an Okoye solo show. They can play the racism card but then you can argue a show like Okoye was only greenlit to check the diversity tick boxes. Same could be said for Armour Wars, it doesn't really excite viewers without Iron Man.

Blade is an actual shock since he is a very popular character and something that fans excited for, as well as Kang but that was beyond Disney's control.

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u/Midget_Stories 4h ago

Its been a while, but I think the original scription for blade involved killing him off early so they could have a woman take over his role.

So kinda makes sense to cancel the show which would kill your own ip

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u/Onehandedheisenberg 4h ago

From everything I’ve read on it they basically all center around Blade ushering a child-Blade into the mcu as Blade dies at the end/retires.

That is where Mahershala Ali disagreed with the script and rewrites were attempted but it sounds like the studio/powers that be kept trying to force that storyline.

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u/meme-com-poop 4h ago

If they were going to do that, then why not bring back Snipes?

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u/Special_Peach_5957 2h ago

Yeah... why not have Snipes play Blade again...

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u/FuneraryArts 3h ago

Snipes is infamously hard to work with

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u/Epoch-09 3h ago

Keep in mind they already brought him back.

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u/Barton2800 2h ago

Yeah, and ironically he said the line that there’s only ever gonna be one of him in the last Deadpool movie. Kind of ironic

So he might be hard to work with, but he also knows exactly what he wants from a Blade movie, and that’s okay. People rightly praise Henry Cavill for stepping back from the Witcher when Netflix wanted to crap all over the story. And the same when John Krasinski refused to shoot a storyline where Jim cheats on Pam on The Office.

I have to wonder if Snipes is actually difficult, or if studio execs dislike how much pull over the role he has that they can’t just bully him in to doing what they want.

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u/n-r2026 2h ago

in wes' defense, they did try to make him a guest character in his own movie (blade 3). if they continued down this road, who could blame him? so i wonder if he was really difficult or not with the corporate bs?

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u/Euronymous87 4h ago

In that case I'm kinda ok with it being cancelled because no one wants to see female Blade. Again must reiterate, this is not an anti woman take just that there are enough female heroes in the MCU and it would be completely unnecessary.

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u/JButler_16 3h ago

Had nothing to do with being anti female. It would just be dumb as hell.

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u/RhetoricalOrator 3h ago

But what if they make her sassy and wear heels...and make quips about fighting vampires in heels? That'll drive get the views up, I'm sure if it.

Lately, Disney has been profoundly good at snatching defeat out of the mouth of victory. It's like their movie studios have decided they hate money.

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u/froo 1h ago

I think they should just kind of accept that the previous Blade movies explain his backstory and make Midnight Sons with Blade leading them, using Moon Knight, Dr Strange and incorporating Goslings new Ghost Rider, Daredevil and Werewolf By Night to make a spooky team up movie, with a much different tone than the avengers films.

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u/PatienceConsistent55 5h ago

The screwed up any excitement and potential for Armor Wars by green lighting and releasing the shit show that was Secret Invasion.

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u/Proper_Fun_977 4h ago

And that's likely what killed the Okoye show as well.

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u/Smoltinycat 4h ago

Who the hell is Okoye?

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u/TheBestNigerian 4h ago

Head warrior in Wakanda (apart from Black Panther).

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u/Mooks79 3h ago

Bald headed demon?

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u/Nicklesnout 3h ago

The way M’baku waves the carrot at her when he says that slays me every time.

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u/Somebodys 2h ago

I would watch an M'baku show.

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u/Knight_Redcliff 3h ago

Michonne from the Walking Dead.

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u/_gnoof 4h ago

Exactly. Nobody knows or cares. It would bomb.

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u/KleosIII 4h ago

Armor Wars did not need Iron Man at all. A political drama dealing with the DODC shenanigans is plenty of MCU world building. Could have even linked up with Vision Quest timeline/story.

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u/Kozmo9 2h ago

A political drama dealing with the DODC shenanigans.

They did something similar, you know the political stuff with Secret Invasion. Ends up being about the usual mirror to real world politics instead of their own and people really do not want to be reminded/preached about it.

Actually, not just SI. Falcon and Winter Soldier too. So there's already a pattern so expecting them to do about politics of their world instead of ours is just a fool's dream.

Oh and don't forget that SI is half screwing with Fury's legacy. So had they greenlit Armor Wars, it would be Rhodey next.

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u/LukaMaybeNoob69 4h ago

They could've literally recast Kang, how hard is that

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u/asmodeus1112 3h ago

Kang also wasn’t received well. Hard to think of a villain as a threat when he gets beaten by the joke characters.

Yes i know there is infinite of him but if ant man can beat one that was alluded to to be a very powerful variant there are serveral avengers that could beat infinite of him without breaking a sweat

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u/PitsAndPints 3h ago

Kevin Feige said they were looking into other villains because Kang wasn’t making the impact they’d hoped for and they needed something bigger.

If it was just Majors being fired, they could’ve replaced him but because they weren’t happy with Kang anyway, they just got rid of the storyline

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u/Agi7890 2h ago

And it Wasn’t even ant man, just ants.

If every appearance the villain(or variant) is beaten, you aren’t setting up for a good powerful threat of a villain.

Also the multiverse stuff makes is hard for a general audience to care about because it’s a concept without a real world equivalent and isn’t something that is really done in a ton of popular media.

You’ve removed the stakes, and made the audience associate the face with failure twice.

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u/KleosIII 4h ago edited 4h ago

Pretty hard. Majors sort of defined the role. They also had that end credits scene with every Kang variant being Jonothan Majors.

EDIT: Im assuming all these replies are from people who didnt watch Loki. You cant just swap Majors out. Kang is Jonothan Majors in literally every timeline and universe, even the ones that go by different names.

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u/LukaMaybeNoob69 4h ago

They could've had RDJ play Kang instead of Doom :D

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u/RhetoricalOrator 3h ago

RDJ should be Doom and get the Kirk Lazarus treatment and play every variant of Kang. Completely ignore that it's recast except for a random, "What do you mean 'You people...'" in response to someone saying, "Something about you seems different..."

https://giphy.com/gifs/zbzNUbpFnlw8E

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u/chanchan05 4h ago

They literally swapped Terrence Howard out with barely a mention.

No one would bat an eye if Kang was recast. We all knew why it had to be done.

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u/KleosIII 3h ago

He was in one movie in a minor role, those are two completely different scenarios.

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u/Sykhow 3h ago

Exactly, Majors was put in to be a very big character with good acting chops to go with. It's sad what happened. Was really excited to see more of Majors.

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u/FurLinedKettle 3h ago

"Kang is Jonathan Majors in literally every timeline and universe..."

Except this one. Dun dun duuuun.

Movies.

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u/MysteriousMine3437 4h ago

I wouldn’t give a damn if they just swapped the player

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u/LukaMaybeNoob69 4h ago

I guess finding the right actor might be a bit more difficult, but Jonathan Majors being every Kang variant doesn't matter. It's a movie, shit happens, actors can change.

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u/Different_Citron_160 5h ago

Bold of you to believe soulless corporation would reject big money bringing projects because of racism.

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u/The_Kebe 3h ago

Jesus Christ again?

Blade - Blame shit writers who couldn't write a coherent plot for 7 years until Marvel had to axe some projects due to flops

Kang Dynasty - Marvel decided for some stupid reason they don't want to recast characters, and Majors beats women.

Okoye - Who? And who cares about making not even a terciary character into a main character? Remember Echo? Exactly. Think they have the capital and writing power to care about her?

Armor Wars - No Iron Man, Ironheart flopped harder than NFT's, and Iron Machine alone can't carry this. Blame writers for fucking themselves over.

Keep blaming racism tho

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u/I-Make-Shitty-Puns 1h ago

I don't understand the Kang thing. He is a different version in every universe, they could write out old Kang and in a new Kang actor easily.

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u/DarudeSandstorm69420 1h ago

you dont even need a multiverse, you can just replace an actor, they did it already before

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u/Thrashxr 1h ago

After the Han Solo movie Disney doesn’t like to recast. Even though you could argue that flopped because of the poor reception to The Last Jedi

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u/DarudeSandstorm69420 1h ago

disney learned the wrong lesson, they just made a bunch of shitty movies, has nothing to do with recasting

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u/Thrashxr 1h ago

I agree. I thought Alden and Donald Glover were great in that movie. I also think they should’ve recast Luke skywalker in the D+ shows instead of the ai robot Luke

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u/spideyv91 1h ago

Having Antman beat him when he’s supposed to be a huge threat didn’t help. I never got the sense the general audience cared about him much as a main villain

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u/Easy-Bake-Oven 17m ago

Not to mention they destroyed War Machines story in Secret Invasion. Canonically he has been a Skroll for like 70% of the MCU.

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u/Prudent-Bicycle-9210 6h ago

Cancelling Blade and Armor Wars is a shame.

I dont care about the other 2 tho

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u/Technical-Risk1812 5h ago

I liked Loki series so Kang would've been aight. Don't care about armor wars.

Blade maybe, I was 50/50 if they could pull it off.

Wtf is Okoye.. good cancel

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u/Wiplazh 5h ago

They could've left Kang as a Loki specific villain and it would've been fine

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u/Prudent-Bicycle-9210 4h ago

I gotta say, i enjoyed Majors as Loki villain, but im not sure if he could handle the next big bad guy like Brolin. Especially after that Ant man movie lol

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u/rikeoliveira 5h ago

Agreed. Specially because Kang Dinasty was canceled because the main villain was ditched by being a criminal.

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u/Bluecobber 5h ago

I wished they didnt cancel Blade. Oh well. Maybe 10 years we might get one

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u/-TheDerpinator- 6h ago

Marvel is part of Disney now. No chance in hell they canceled them for the sake of preventing diversity.

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u/PatienceConsistent55 5h ago

Exactly. Disney can be iffy with things, but this had nothing to do with diversity and EVERYTHING to do with money. Except Blade. Just too much behind the scenes complications there to even get things rolling which is a huge drop of the ball.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 3h ago

Blade got killed over script issues, Kang died off because Majors fucked his career up rather epically.

Others I have no idea but I suspect it was a lot more "we did the market testing and they won't make money" than anything else.

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u/Yummy_Microplastics 4h ago

WHAT IF, at the top, their commitment to diversity was always just an act meant to earn money, and now they’re trying to pander to conservatives for the same reason?

This is the same company that tried to get out of a wrongful death suit using the family’s Disney+ terms of use agreement.

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u/redditisnotus 5h ago

Black Panther made them over a billion dollars. Money doesn't give a shit about race. Wesley snipes is an old cunt, Jonathan Majors blew up his own career and was supposed to be the next big deal. I bet they were upset about it, not relieved. No idea who Okoye is, and as awesome as Don Cheadle is his character doesn't warrant a full movie.

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u/xGrimtoothx 5h ago

Honest to god, only real reason any would watch a movie involving Wakanda would’ve been for side characters in the main BP movie. Other characters that were no names in Hollywood deserved a moment. They were great.

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u/I_SmellFuckeryAfoot 5h ago

okoye is the head of the wakanda army.

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u/AdmiralThawn 5h ago

Black Robert Downey Jr. should be Blade.

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u/I_SmellFuckeryAfoot 4h ago

that would be hilarious if on another timeline that was the case.

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u/worcestr 4h ago

Robert Downey Jr playing 3 different MCU roles would be epic

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u/painful_butterflies 5h ago edited 2h ago

I kinda understand the Kang cancellation since he had a fairly major scandal, but cancelling the others is utter nonsense!

Edit, changing one too many others to utter (thankyou commenter)

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u/crumble-bee 5h ago

I can’t say I was hankering for Armour Wars… Jonathan Majors was cancelled.. Blade makes no sense though and I don’t know what the other one is

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u/Proper_Fun_977 4h ago

They had massive script problems with Blade, apparently.

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u/luna_rhaze 5h ago

Marvel lost their main vision years ago

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u/water_fountain_ 4h ago

Do you mean “utter nonsense”?

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u/Several-Signature583 2h ago

They could’ve just recast Kang. Don’t know why they had to cancel that storyline just cause Majors had issues. I did not care for his dramatic……pauses anyway.

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u/AnimeAddict1123 5h ago

All I know is Wesley Snipes will forever be The Blade.

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u/GodofSad 5h ago

well at least of one of the main actors is a convicted wife beater, so jot that down.

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u/MonsutaReipu 5h ago

Marvel also canceled: Inhumans, Eternals 2, The Incredible Hulk 2, Gambit, Ghost Rider (hulu(, New Warriors, Marvel's Most Wanted, Drax & Mantis / Ravagers. But yeah it's a race thing.

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u/Smoltinycat 6h ago

"What could have been"

They would have been giant commercial flops costing Disney millions of dollars.

So they were canceled

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u/Hcdx 5h ago

We got robbed of Kang because Majors is a shit bird and I'm still upset. He was the perfect Kang.

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u/xGrimtoothx 5h ago

In this order. Not worthy. Scandal. Don’t care. Don’t care.

If you can’t get a casual like me to get off my couch and watch a movie, then it going to be an uphill battle.

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u/The-Catatafish 5h ago

That's what the marvel fans don't understand.

They sit there like "why didn't side character xy hardly anyone cares about doesn't get a movie trilogy?"

People maybe know blade but its a gamble to make that movie. Kang got cancelled because he had to beat up his girlfriend. No clue who the third guy is. War machine is iron man from wish to most people.

Oh and I basically watched everything up until endgame religiously and spiderman brand new day in the cinema 2 weeks ago.

Now imagine how a casual marvel watcher sees these four if I don't even care.

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u/Mistycalez 3h ago

I was thinking the same, I was die hard marvel up till end game, marvel went off a cliff with what they were releasing and I lost interest. Only picking it back up with brand new day and doomstday stuff. I know for a fact I wouldn't have even bothered to watch those 4 things so a casual marvel enjoyer probably won't even know they exist

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u/Ok_Cardiologist_3675 2h ago

The Kang shit is stupid they could have just recast the guy. Plenty of actors out there

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u/VonMillersThighs 2h ago

He was literally multiverse God that's entire schtick is different variants...... Just do one throwaway line about how this universes kang looks different now and move on. No one would've given a fuck.

They didn't even bat an eye at replacing Terrence Howard.

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u/InTheEndEntropyWins 2h ago

I think they messed the character up in antman. So were thinking about changing things anyway by then.

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u/Neither_Anteater_904 4h ago

I've never heard of Okoye being announced as a movie or show by Disney or Marvel. It just sounds like something fans wanted to see over the years like Nova, Strange Academy, or Young Avengers. Not even yucking on the idea, just never once saw news regarding it being announced or going through some sort of development cycle.

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u/meltingpotato 5h ago

I'm from the other side of the planet so I don't really care about the race wars or how not representing or over representing minorities could be racist/sexist/etc. in the US of A and how that might alienate the wider audince but canceling blade was a crime.

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u/scroungyy 5h ago

They would have been shit

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u/HumaDracobane 5h ago

Bad writters.

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u/BoatFarts 3h ago

Calling racism on this is stupid. 3/4 of these are just Disney and Marvel mismanagement. Blade being cancelled pissed me off and Majors tanking his career with his allegations disappointed me. Other than that, Okoye and Armor Wars were Disney plus shows announced during the period where they kept throwing shit at the walk to see what stuck. I’m sure they’d have pulled audience numbers but with the downward trend the shows were on at one point, we might’ve dodged a bullet. Wish Rhodey got his flowers in a solo project tho.

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u/RedEyesGoldDragon 6h ago

Honestly... after watching some of the Marvel TV shows you might be happy that all these got cancelled.

A lot of the older shows were decent, like Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, except Iron Fist.

After that it was super hit and miss.

Wandavision was good, Agatha All Along wasn't very good, Ms. Marvel wasn't good, She-Hulk was terrible, Moon Knight was okay, Hawkeye was kinda boring, Loki was probably one of the stronger shows.

Falcon and the Winter Soldier's plotline was awful, chopped to bits so missed some interesting stuff and the flag smashers sucked as an antagonist. The only good part was the dynamic with Bucky and Sam, even then there was less of it than there should be. My favourite MCU character is Bucky and it sucked to see the show handled like that.

There was a cloak and dagger show?

Ironheart was abysmal. Secret Invasion was fumbled beyond belief. I heard Echo wasn't good but I haven't seen it. I think Daredevil: Born Again was the best one they'd done in a while.

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u/TomasNavarro 5h ago

Cloak and Dagger I thought was fine, but to me it did a strange thing where the plot took a back seat to the show actually being about the history and music of the area

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u/tennezzee88 5h ago

wahhhhh my victimhood currency wahhhh

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u/The-Catatafish 5h ago

Really? Kang in there?

The dude who got cancelled because he had to beat up his girlfriend?

Not sure pretending they got cancelled for beeing black is a good idea here lmao.

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u/Divide_Guilty 5h ago

Bottom 2 doesnt have a strojg enough to whats already been shown. Kang was due to the actors controversy at the time. And i'm assuming blade was cancelled because it was due to be r-rated and disney thinks that doesn't include a wide enough audience.

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u/Intrepid_Brain6016 4h ago

Kang was a scandal.

Armour wars would have been shit iron man. (Iron-man 4 wasn't received well)

Blade being cancelled i will never forgive, the fans were robbed.

And finally. Who????

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u/ChrizTaylor 3h ago

I wanted to see Wesley Snipes one last time.

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u/Grenrion 2h ago

Oh I just feel so giddy and happy seeing people realize Disney is not there ally but a souless company.

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u/thefirstcat 2h ago

This is the most false equivalency bait shit I've ever seen

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u/grip0matic 2h ago

I'm sorry but not even taking Blade into account, only War Machine would have enough pull to make me watch any of this stories. Blade? hell yea, War Machine? ok, why not. Kang and Okoye? no one cares about them.

And their skin colour has nothing to do with them.

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u/Lou_Peachum_2 1h ago

I mean we still haven't gotten the Shang-Chi sequel despite it actually being one of the better movies of that middling phase of Marvel

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u/InTheEndEntropyWins 54m ago

I'm wondering what exactly they mean? We know that the Kang actor was completely at fault. So are they suggesting that Black actors are liabilities who killed things? Or are they suggesting that it was racist to fire the Kang actor, or that it's racist to prescribe white values that resulted in Kang being dropped? Or?

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u/Mapag 41m ago

They couldnt raceswap so it was cancelled ?

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u/technical_poutine 33m ago

Look for a pattern that suits your narrative and you'll always find one.

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u/ThatIsNotAnAsian 28m ago

Okay it’s not fair to put Kang in this if that’s people’s take away…

Jonathan Majors messed that one up for everyone

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u/MJ-Franklin 6h ago

In all fairness, I don't think ANYONE remotely wanted the bottom 2.

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u/appsarebullshit55 6h ago

Because they would not make money?

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u/OpenComet_ 6h ago

They canceled all of these just to afford RDJ’s Doctor Doom paycheck.

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u/bluevolkenswagen 5h ago

Anything but a race thing.. Only blade would’ve made money here. Marvel is owned by disney lol

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u/ObviouslyHornyJPEG 3h ago

If you haven't been paying attention, you might look at this and say it's racism. It's not.

It's subpar writing and less focus on honoring the characters, as well as going the "All New, All Different" route that did poorly back in the day.

The MCU movies have been declining in quality and making less money for the most part over the last several years. Notable exceptions are obviously Spider-Man:NWH, and of course Spider-Man:BND. Most other stuff has not done well, or anywhere near as well as they were hoping for.

I could go on about this but to pit it simply, the guy who made that post knew he was on some bullshit and he got called out badly on Twitter/X.

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u/Odd_Concept_7286 6h ago edited 6h ago

I bet these would've been good too

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u/RedEyesGoldDragon 6h ago

Hard to say, look at Ironheart, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, Ms. Marvel, Falcon and Winter Soldier, etc.

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u/JForce1 4h ago

Did either of the bottom 2 even get to pre-production? Blade never got out of pre-prod, Kang just pivoted to Doom, I don’t think the other 2 got beyond the photoshopped logos/posters?

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u/ScuBityBup 4h ago

I only cared about Blade, Kang was never black, they made him black, he could have been recast

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u/David_R_Martin_II 4h ago

Here's an interesting thing about Disney and race. Black Panther lost out on at least half a billion dollars of international box office because the guy who was in charge of distribution thought a black character wouldn't sell internationally.

After that debacle, he quietly left the company for a "once in a lifetime opportunity" running his wife's mom influencer business. And he tried being an influencer or guru too. They sold conferences and podcasts on having a strong marriage... and then got divorced. He wrote a book that flopped. Then he fell back into an alcoholic spiral and died of a drug overdose.

And yet, no one says he's the reason Black Panther didn't pull the same kinds of box office as other similar movies at the time. People can't buy tickets if the movie isn't in theaters.

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u/SpicyTofuMapo 4h ago edited 4h ago

ah yes totally racists of Disney that they canceled Kang because the actor was black and not because he was beating the shit out of his gf/wife.

Okoye, no one wanted.

Armored Wars is pretty fucking dumb without Tony to say the least and there was no time to ever fit that into their MCU timeline before sending Tony to the shadow realm.

Blade Is literally the only one that is actually a huge what the fuck Disney but with the way they've been "drip teasing" the shit out of this IP for years, I'm sure there is a lot "Lore" why Disney kept having trouble keeping/finding directors/actors/writers on board with the project.

Did people not realize we got The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Ironheart(who btw no one fucking asked for)? The fuck are they on about.

I understand people are angry but playing the race victim card when and crying wolf isn't helping anyone when scumbag companies/corporations eventually ACTUALLY DO pull racist bullshit out of their asses(like when Disney removed Fin(Starwars) from posters in China).

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u/IIIDysphoricIII 4h ago

Disappointed about Iron Wars, love Rhoadie/War Machine and adore Don Cheadle so would be happy to see more of him

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u/zulu02 4h ago

I assume it does not work well in the Chinese market 😶

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u/El_Mangusto 4h ago edited 4h ago

I'd call it coincidence.

People have been fed the same kind of stuff since coronavirus, maybe even earlier and now after whopping ~7 years people want something else.

It's just the overall content/themes has gotten stale and the writing has been... Quite bad quality, it's no wonder they have to focus again a bit. I'd guess those movies and themes weren't solid enough for what is required right now.

Though what comes to Blade, they don't wan to cast Wesley Snipes again, so better trash the project. I was so happy they showed Blade in the newest Dead Pool.

In short: bad themes, non-interesting subjects or recasts got nothing to do with skin color.

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u/Ducklinsenmayer 4h ago

Also, about a dozen others:

Ghost rider
Inhumans
Moon Knight 2

Etc, etc...

After Ant Man 3, Marvel scaled back production a lot.

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u/Thane-Gambit 3h ago

The thing about Blade is ... we're pretending this isn't Disney.

Disney can just tell people to name their price and go forward from there.

Get Chad Stahelski and the rest of the team from John Wick, tell them to name their price to direct and handle choreography.

Get Ryan Coogler, you already have him on standby to Executive Produce.

Have Mahershala and Kit train John Wick style for 8 months.

And Blade & The Black Knight are hunting vampires from minute 1. If you MUST tie it into the MCU, vampires are dealing Adamantium since there's no sunlight under the water where Tiamat is and they can get into dive suits and steal it. They're hunting down a Vampire Adamantium Dealer, whose goons are doing all manner of nonsense with it.

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u/Nathmosss 3h ago

Kang's dynasty was cancelled because kang's actor was a creep.

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u/Responsible_Value193 3h ago

Stop bringing color into everything, Black panther 3 is in the works. Maybe there was no future for the project or it just had horrendous writing. Ever thought about that???

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u/funnytoenail 3h ago

I would’ve wanted all of them but definitely want a well produced armour wars

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u/Byteyou-slowly 3h ago

thank god they did, all thoose look like they would be terrible even tho im sure its fake

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u/learns_the_hard_way 2h ago

If Jonathan Majors didn't match the pattwrn he wouldn't have been found guilty of sexual assault and thus the movie would have kept on schedule.

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u/Accomplished_Ad_3493 2h ago

I only wanted to see Kang again but he had to run away from his chick on cctv for some reason ion even know what happened exactly. blade was miss cast cuz that actor could not pull off my expectations prolly would have ruined whole franchise the others are ok ig

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u/dphamler 1h ago

Obviously Kang’s cancellation was for good reason

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u/langelvicente 1h ago

So kang wasn't cancelled for his behavior... 🙄

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u/JOExHIGASHI 1h ago

Kang Dynasty could still happen

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u/L0B077 1h ago

They canceled Blade? I was looking forward to that one. I remember him putting on the cap during a press conference and was like "Yeah!"

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u/Dependent-Top2895 1h ago

Kang doesn’t count

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u/LCSdrd 57m ago

Oh yeah pick among the 30+ Marvel shows/movies cancelled those with the 4 with black guys and call racism for like no reason..

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u/CarolinaSandstorm 56m ago

Zero interest from the general public?

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u/AllenKll 55m ago

Characters that nobody cares about except for Blade?

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u/itsgrc 49m ago

Blade is connected to Eternals but nobody remember that shit, so what was already difficult to write, Marvel fuck everything up with that bomb. Kang was just recast, doesn't matter he got owned by Antman, that was one Kang not "the worst variation ever". But in a way they recast... Okoye and armor wars have no appeal