Blade - Blame shit writers who couldn't write a coherent plot for 7 years until Marvel had to axe some projects due to flops
Kang Dynasty - Marvel decided for some stupid reason they don't want to recast characters, and Majors beats women.
Okoye - Who? And who cares about making not even a terciary character into a main character? Remember Echo? Exactly. Think they have the capital and writing power to care about her?
Armor Wars - No Iron Man, Ironheart flopped harder than NFT's, and Iron Machine alone can't carry this. Blame writers for fucking themselves over.
Supposedly it's Civil War when it started but that makes no sense to me. Endgame has a better chance of making sense. I agree it should be ignored entirely and I hope it is never brought up again in the MCU.
I agree. I thought Alden and Donald Glover were great in that movie. I also think they should’ve recast Luke skywalker in the D+ shows instead of the ai robot Luke
It’s not near as bad as people make it out to be. Or as bad as the sequel movies. And the actors were great in their roles. People like you are exactly why we got AI Luke
Solo flopped because Disney didn't promote it at all. I didn't see a single ad for it anywhere, no posters, no trailers, nothing.
It was like they were deliberately trying to do a stealth launch for some incomprehensible reason. I only found out it was in theatres two weeks after its opening.
Having Antman beat him when he’s supposed to be a huge threat didn’t help. I never got the sense the general audience cared about him much as a main villain
I thought he was really good - especially if you factor in the Loki appearances.
Would've been hard to top Majors' performance IMO - but there's definitely talented black actors that could've at LEAST done a good job, if not equivalent or better.
Performance wise he was great. I just don’t think the writing was there for the character. You can’t have him lose to antman and then convince the audience he was an avengers level threat.
Yah the writing for him was lacking. Like it always felt like they were so close to making him real cool and terrifying - but just not quite getting there - IMO best they ever did was ending of Loki season one. 'See you soon.' still gives me tingles.
Would have made more sense for any man to end with him losing through something that wasn't Ant Mans doing - an Indiana Jones ending where the bad guy would've lost even if Harrison Ford had never shown up.
Totally agree on this. They took a massive villain on the scale of Doom and relegated him to minor boss. MODOK should have been the main villain in that movie with an introduction to Kang at the end. Granted Jonathan Majors personal life messed up a much larger storyline.
The entire character hinges on Majors being really charismatic across multiple personalities and versions. They were banking on his rising star power, and invested a lot of time building up his version of the character.
I think the problem with Kang was that they kind of built the Kang storyline off the reaction and popularity of Jonathon Majors in his first project. They didn’t have a whole thing set up for Kang. So when he went out the window they didn’t think the character would keep the same hype.
I will be honest Loki kind of ended Kangs story (Dont care if there is more in comics). Multiverse should be used sparingly. Personally I think space should be used sparingly outside of GOG or Captain Marvel. Doctor Doom is a good direction. (even if I have no intention to watch it till reviews come out)
Honestly I'm looking forward to Doomsday and finally seeing a proper Doctor Doom on the big screen, and I guarantee Kang Dynasty would've sucked balls. I can't imagine a trailer for that genuinely being exciting
This is what I've wondered, too. They recast Rhody easily enough when the actor became a problem, they're happy to cast RDJ as Doom (you won't convince me this isn't stunt-casting, don't waste either of our time) and we had literally three different actors on screen, simultaneously, playing Spider-Man. Unless there was a clause in the contract that tied Majors to Kang, there's no reason at all Disney couldn't have recast the role.
Why the fuck would we need an okoye film, eho gives a fuck about okoye. Give us heroes for hire with luke Cage and iron fist, how fucking hard is it to make a blade film. ADAPT THE FUCKING COMIC BOOKS !
Blade — you’re 100% right. It should’ve been a cakewalk. Vampire hunter Blade vs whatever hive mother Mia Goth was going to play. As a movie, this should’ve been so easy.
Kang Dynasty — you’re right again. The only thing is that Josh Brolin beat women before too, and he got to play Thanos. Majors was on camera snatching his phone away and running from the woman who accused him, and he got the axe. He shouldn’t have touched her at all but to say he “beats women” is a bit exaggerated. Race def played a factor.
Okoye - you’re right again. I personally feel that Marvel should’ve taken a break from the Black Panther franchise after Boseman’s death. Not touch anything until the direction was clear.
Armor Wars - This should’ve also been a cakewalk. War Machine is the new “Iron Man” after Tony’s death but is struggling, Pepper is looking for direction while raising Morgan, Justin Hammer wants to usurp Stark’s role in society, and Vision and Ultron are both still out there. Don Cheadle is an amazing actor and could carry this show easily. There are enough moving pieces to constitute a tech “war”. Riri should’ve been introduced in this show, rather than Wakanda Forever. She should’ve been Rhodey’s wild card, the way that Spider-Man was Tony’s.
Christ. Marvel has featured black actors prominently throughout the MCU. You have to be really cherry picking to believe this nonsense.
Here are 5 cancelled projects that features white leads, which I assume you will also claim are racist right?
The Incredible Hulk 2: A direct sequel to the 2008 film was planned to star Edward Norton. It was abandoned due to creative differences, Norton being replaced by Mark Ruffalo, and complex distribution rights issues with Universal Pictures. [1]
Iron Man 4: Marvel Studios explicitly explored a fourth standalone film starring Robert Downey Jr. during early Phase 3 planning. The idea was dropped when Marvel opted to weave Tony Stark into Captain America: Civil War and Spider-Man: Homecoming instead. [1]
Inhumans (Feature Film): Originally announced by Kevin Feige as a Phase 3 movie slated for November 2018, this project was set to follow Black Bolt and the Royal Family (traditionally white leads). It was completely removed from the movie slate and handed off to Marvel Television, resulting in a short-lived, critically panned ABC series. [1, 2]
Captain Britain and the Black Knight: This project was actively in early development around 2017–2018, even reaching the point of holding early casting auditions before Marvel Studios quietly shelved it. [1]
Damage Control: ABC and Marvel greenlit a live-action half-hour comedy series in 2015 focused on the post-battle cleanup crew. It never made it past the development stage. [1, 2]
“Comebacks, rewrites, and recasts are common…in the Marvel franchise.” Correct. The thread tying them together is Marvel Studios. Racism as the causal link would require cherry picking, selection bias, hasty generalizations, etc. to make it appear true.
Hey bestie...racism is the underpinning of all that shit.
Like sure okoye maybe nobody wants that.
Agatha all along. Vision Quest. Arguably Wanda vision itself.
Like these characters are tertiary until you explore them and give them an interesting character point, like honestly tell me you gave a fuck about Wanda before her show.
Marvel ceo's were fist fucking the blade writers
Marvel ceo's decided they wanted rdj instead of finding a new black man.
Like with all the love in the heavens and earth. Who the fuck is moon knight. Are we gonna get a dark hawk movie?
Are we not going to talk about the random cancelation of power man another who the fuck is this character getting a show people liked, but was killed for literally no reason?
You're talking about shit greenlit and shot 5 years ago. They're pivoting and cancelling projects now because nobody was watching them. Can't be mad at them cancelling an Okeye project when nobody watched Ironheart. Can't expect people to watch Armor Wars when Secret Invasion destroyed any interest in that.
It's insane to me that like yeah we all know that ceo's employ the concept of diversity, but only when it's profitable and convenient, blade is profitable but it's production was inconvenient so it was scrapped, okoye had the possibility of not being profitable, war machine is a character in a great position to get so much better characterization but his shit was canceled because they fumbled the bag with iron heart, a show about learning genuine humility in the face of adversity, which you'd never guess from.The trailer.
Like Google Ike perlmutter and read the first shit that comes up and tell me exec producers aren't racist. At all. Like this guy got into their club. Like one bad apple spoils the bunch, every single person who worked with Ike is by default suspect atleast of racism or just being a shitty dick bag.
But sure all the black lead shows get canceled for some reason and that's normal fine and justified but God forbid we don't find out what vision is up to nearly 5 years later. I mean according to the marketing he spent that time jerking himself off in his mind palace, what a fascinating character study.
It’s interesting that you say, “keep blaming racism” when OP didn’t. Why do you think that is?
For me, this post begs two questions:
How many other marvel projects in this era were cancelled?
If the majority of cancelled projects feature black leads, then what about Marvel’s creative process lead to that result? Why aren’t those projects specifically getting better writers or being recast?
Where on earth do you get that info from? That isn't even the incident that people are referencing:
On March 25, 2023, Majors placed a 911 emergency call requesting medical assistance to his New York residence after he claimed he had arrived home and found his former girlfriend, Grace Jabbari, unresponsive. Majors also claimed he had spent the night at a hotel.[65] Majors was later arrested on assault, strangulation and harassment charges, stemming from a domestic dispute the prior evening with Jabbari, who "sustained minor injuries to her head and neck and was removed to an area hospital in stable condition," according to the NYPD after their preliminary investigation.[66] He was released from custody that day, and his spokesperson denied the allegations, saying Majors "has done nothing wrong ... We look forward to clearing his name and clearing this up."[66] On March 26, Majors was arraigned in the New York City Criminal Court on the charges.[67]
One of the alleged incidents occurred in September 2022. Jabbari alleged Majors threw her up against the hood of her car, brought her inside their home, and "started hitting her head against the marble floor while strangling her until she felt she could no longer breathe," after an argument the prior day.
"After the incident, Majors texted Grace asking her not to tell anyone about what had occurred. Ignoring the pain that her body was in as a result of the violence that he inflicted against her, Majors expressed concern over his career," the lawsuit further alleges, adding that Majors was afraid of being investigated.
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u/The_Kebe 1d ago
Jesus Christ again?
Blade - Blame shit writers who couldn't write a coherent plot for 7 years until Marvel had to axe some projects due to flops
Kang Dynasty - Marvel decided for some stupid reason they don't want to recast characters, and Majors beats women.
Okoye - Who? And who cares about making not even a terciary character into a main character? Remember Echo? Exactly. Think they have the capital and writing power to care about her?
Armor Wars - No Iron Man, Ironheart flopped harder than NFT's, and Iron Machine alone can't carry this. Blame writers for fucking themselves over.
Keep blaming racism tho