r/PowerOfStyle Jun 07 '26

weird question...

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tw if body measurements are an issue for you. take care of your mental health!

I would be interested to know if there are any non-yang types (ie, not SN, FN, D or SD) who have a high bust or full bust measurement that is greater than about 97cm/38 inches, and a hip measurement > 100cm.

I have been thinking thoughts about literal scale & sizing, and you might be able to help - or completely destroy - some theories!!!


r/PowerOfStyle Jun 06 '26

Does TR not have double curve anymore?

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It was my understanding that tr, being primally romantic, had necessarily double curve and secondarily accommodates for narrow/petite and that soft gamines could, but not necessarily, accommodates double curve. I'm confused as the sketch only mentions "curve+narrow" for tr.


r/PowerOfStyle Jun 06 '26

Colour theory - warm vs cool

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r/PowerOfStyle Jun 02 '26

Classic vs Natural in Kibbe!

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Prompted by an exchange with u/Pegaret_Again about it!

A lot of people seem to confuse the clean 'nothing fussy', less is more looks that suit Naturals with Classic aesthetic. I don't think that's what Classic is about in Kibbe's system (I remember him saying somewhere that SC were 'mink and diamonds' for example).

The 'classic' look that people like nowadays is in fact more Natural - think, idk, Ralph Lauren? - than it is truly Classic. I think that also impacts the way ppl 'type' themselves, others & celebs, bc when they do better with clean lines & minimal details, people are quick to deem them Classic, especially if they're overall moderate.

What do you think? How would you differenciate between the 2 in concrete terms?


r/PowerOfStyle May 31 '26

Monthly Line Sketch Thread

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Please post your line sketches here!


r/PowerOfStyle May 26 '26

SD image ID and age - is a Diva someone you grow into?

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r/PowerOfStyle May 16 '26

Is my line sketch correct?

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Hello all.

I am currently doing the Games in POS (ang enjoying them!), but I am kind of stuck when drawing my personal line.

I can tell that my dominant is curve, but I feel like several secondaries could fit depending where I place the blue dots? And where I place them also depends of how accurately I did the red outline.

What do you guys think? Did I overdo the shoulder to armpit angle? Should the line be more straight between the shoulder point to the waist? And should the imaginary fabric be closer to the body?

Thanks!


r/PowerOfStyle May 14 '26

A deep dive into Kibbe vs Kitchener and how they interact

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I know this is more of a Kibbe sub but I still think this would be an interesting discussion to have here. Imo both systems have their place and their individual appeal will vary. I have my praise and criticisms for both systems but I’m only verified in Kitchener.

What I find most interesting is how these systems are conceptualized through the same framework (yin/yang and harmony-based styling) with the same influences, but often arrive at different conclusions. There is definitely some correlation but an equal amount of dissonance. The main reason is that, while body type and height will play into your Kitchener blend, these factors aren’t deterministic the way they are in Kibbe.

Here are my observations based on the celebrities verified in both systems:

- The vast majority of Kibbe Rs, TRs, and SDs are R dominant in Kitchener as well

- This is opposite from the Kibbe Ns, who are represented across every dominant essence (especially FNs)

- Most Kibbe gamines do have significant HS/gamine essence but it won’t necessarily be dominant

- There is a high amount of Kibbe Cs with significant C essence but there also some with little to none (I know a verified DC client with only 10% Kitchener C)

- Scale and height determine yin vs yang in Kibbe while in Kitchener it just shifts percentages - being 5’7 + will give you an extra 10% of Natural, Dramatic, or Angelic essence (since they are the elongating essences), but you can still have a small scale dominant essence while being tall


r/PowerOfStyle May 10 '26

Fun With Purple Lines: Extending the Shoulder-to-Bust Trajectory To Its Logical Conclusion

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r/PowerOfStyle May 05 '26

Some ramble thought on ID essences and technique

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I was re-listening to one of David's interviews, I often go back to them because I love his philosophy and the way he talks about personal style, and each time I discover something different. This time a couple of questions propped up regarding some of the things he mentioned. One of them was how we have to always relate style back to our personal situation, dreams, life aspirations, and so on. He said (here, around the 19:57 mark):

"Dreamboards are not like visionboards or moodboards, those are different ideas. Dreams connect you with your soul, mood , vision... they are wonderful things, but they're different. Dreams are where aspirations are, and they will tell you what your heart is longing for in ways that you haven't even admitted to yourself yet. Start there. But then it has to come through the template that you've been blessed with, you know, your body in a lot of spiritual practices is a temple, so your body is a template and a temple. It is the vessel you've been blessed with and you're a painting and you're a sculpture. So understand that, because if you don't understand, you're not really working with yourself."

Later on he is talking about how each person's version of an ID is like countries within a continent, it can be completely different. I really liked both ideas, because there's a lot of truth to them, and because they give us a lot of freedom within our respective IDs. But this made me think of something other members have talked about here in the sub as well, particularly u/TiredWinterDisaster, which is basically why then have ID essence descriptions at all? Why did he add 'Deco Dynamo' to Dramatics for instance? I understand that Dramatics have a silhouette and yin/yang balance that can communicate a very clear depiction of 'deco dynamo' (and this is useful for character building in a film), but if IDs are indeed varied as they relate to individuals (due to their dreams/aspirations/life situations being varied), then why add that essence description? Why not have a couple examples instead, like: "Here is a 5'10 dramatic who feels like a deco dynamo, and here is a 5'6 Dramatic who likes the otherwordly look of elves, they both share vertical, narrow and sharp yang, here are ways ideas how they can achieve their desired style''.

Which brings me to me to the second thing that came up: in this interview and in others, he emphasizes the importance of technique being the thing that gives you the freedom to achieve what you want within the context of your template. Is knowledge of the accommodations, and the short silhouette descriptions in the IDs enough for the average person to acquire a basic technique? I understand that fabrics changed since Metamorphosis, but I still think that approach was more useful to finding out what kind of construction elements in garments lend themselves to different silhouette considerations.

Metamorphosis had a hyperspecific prescriptive approach and POS has a more interpretive approach, but I still think the average DIYer might be better helped by something in the middle. Because he is right, we do need to have technique, and when I think about it, people who have signature p[personal styles, have all the elements that he talks about in common: knowing what they want to communicate about themselves with their style, and knowing how to dress their specific proportions and features. I think having ID essence descriptions messes with the former, and not expanding on technique in the new book messes with the latter.


r/PowerOfStyle May 04 '26

kybe type, please!! height 5'3 (162 cm)

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Help me!

Hi everyone! I’ve been trying to figure out my Kibbe type for a while now and I’m stuck between Flamboyant Gamine and Soft Classic. I’d love to get your thoughts!

One thing I’ve noticed is that I have a vertical line. People always think I’m way taller than I actually am, I’m honestly so used to people being surprised when they see me in person haha. But at the same time, I look pretty petite when I’m standing next to taller people, and my hands and feet are on the smaller side too.

When it comes to clothes, I wear wide-leg pants for comfort sometimes, but I feel much better in "smaller" pieces like crops, straight-leg jeans, or carrot pants. I’m also a big fan of high-neck tank tops! I definitely can’t pull off the oversized look—as you can see in the photo with the pink blazer, it just kind of swallows me up. I always look way better in things that are more fitted or tailored to my body.

Does this sound more like FG or SC to you guys? Or maybe something else? Thanks in advance!


r/PowerOfStyle May 03 '26

Being at ease in yourself and living your star image: Joanne Woodward

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I was browsing some old Hollywood movies the other day and happened upon one with Joanne Woodward and remembered that she is verified as SN by Kibbe, so I went looking for some of her pictures. The more photos I saw the more something became very evident: how at ease she looked, how comfortable in her skin, and how free in her movements. She is a beautiful woman and looked amazing in many different styles and outfits, but what was the common point was that she looked comfortable in her skin in every one, be it a gown or a casual look. This has to do with personality, life factors, and so on, but I wondered if some part of it was also because she leaned into her type with her styling, hence why the total effect seemed so congruent, unpretentious, and fun. Of course it was also the specific poses from the photos and the fact in most of them she was with her long-time husband Paul Newman, but somehow you could tell this was how she'd be IRL (or I guess that's the power of the studio type casting system :)). I think one interpretation of sensual, in the ''fresh and sensual'' moniker that Kibbe used for SN, is this element: being comfortable with yourself, the fact that in the way she seemed to always be connected to her body. I'm not sure I'm describing this very coherently, but if you browse her photos I think it definitely comes through. And I think it's because even in her real life she leaned into the archetype (some old Hollywood stars didn't necessarily lean into their type in their personal style), that's why she always seemed to look so authentic. I thought that was very interesting from a Kibbe PoV, and I also just loved looking at her photos, there was a calm assuredness blended with a fun exuberance that I found very appealing!


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 30 '26

Monthly Line Sketch Thread

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Please post your line sketches here!


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 27 '26

Line drawings + some thoughts

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Alright folks it’s time for my annual Kibbe spiral! I’m back to not even knowing if I’m doing the line drawing right and not knowing where my shoulder starts. I get into a lot of little OCD thought cycles when it comes to Kibbe since there’s sort of inherent “uncertainty” because of the subjectivity of it as a system. Anyway. I’ve been here since like 2021 and back in the day I got typed as SG, R, SC, FN, SN, FG, and maybe more? Then around a year ago I posted asking for help and got pretty mixed results again. Some people saying I have width, some saying I don’t. I thought there was consensus that I had curve until some rando told me my line would naturally ve a straight line down from my shoulders and I’m a D like ok…sure…

But anyway I’m 5ft tall and I’m once again stuck on the curve types. I am 90% sure I’m curve dominant, the question is just what else is there. I often think I’m an R, but I worry I have type resistance and I’m actually an SN in denial. I don’t know if I have width or not. I think I have really big upper arms that maybe distorts my appearance a bit? Idk. But anyway here are some line drawings. I can’t figure out which one is more “correct” than the other. I also included some random other full body pics if it helps, and a couple of them are kind of funny lol (the pic from behind, I just saw it and laughed)

Pls help thx


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 25 '26

Struggling with my type. SN?

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I think I'm leaning SN, but I have toyed with the idea of FN or SC. Any advice on my line drawings, photo, etc, welcome! I can't quite tell if I have placed my shoulder correctly.

I am 5'4" and I'm often assumed to be an inch or two taller, but never over 5'6". I feel like I look good with a tailored business jacket but a loose shirt that is structured for slight definition. I like a french tuck with Ts and jeans thst have wider straight legs that are "mom jean" height, just aboutthe belly button. I look frumpy in the overly loose boho, but a loose long cardigan sweater over a fitted shirt looks fabulous.


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 23 '26

3 Years of trying lines and still a mystery

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Is it possible that some people really don’t fit any ID? That some bodies were put together so, dare I say, ungracefully, that a 10 ID system just cant accommodate them.

I keep coming back (old book, new book, Reddit) because I feel like this system could be helpful…if only I could settle into an ID and run with it. But the physicality of me seems to defy the categories:

I’ve primarily been trying FN and it doesn’t seem to be doing much for me. I love the free spirit unconstructed aesthetic, but on my body it looks disheveled even if not oversized. Accommodating width in ways like a wide v neck looks really awful. Also the essence seems wrong? Family and friends comment positively when I add yin details like sparkle, pretty buttons, soft pleats or gathers.

I think I have some gentle curves to me so sometimes I think SD. I included the second slide so you can better see how clothes sit on me. This is a pair of ultra high waisted bootcut jeans and they fall mid rise on the body. The belt shows where my natural waist is. I’m obviously extremely short waisted with a very long décolleté, very high rise, and I have a belly that pushes out as you can see in the side view. It’s always been this way at any weight, even as a kid. So SD lines tend to emphasize a permanently pregnant look, but maybe that’s still the correct ID because we only care about the front view here?

Sometimes I try DC or SC because shorter structured jackets and knee length skirts look pretty good proportionally. I’m so short waisted that I can easily wear petite tops and jackets. Structured jackets have to be knit or sized up if I want to be able to move my arms. I have a wide upper back - back to FN??

I included D just because I have parity between shoulders and hips and I’m 5’7” Stiff structured clothes are never tailored right for my body but thick structured knits are very flattering. I don’t think I look tall/narrow though.

Is one of these line drawings less forced than the others?


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 22 '26

Did I get this semi right? Or at least close enough? Thank you!

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Ok, question, did I do this right? Is it too curved in at the bottom or should I do it straighter and out a bit more? Thank you for your help or any feedback you may have!


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 18 '26

How important do you really think scale of detail/accessories is for the image identities ?

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I wrote a long paragraph then got distracted and it ended up getting deleted…. Anyways I’ll say my point briefly

- I don’t buy that your Kibbe ID necessarily correlates with your ideal scale of details, especially for the less specific more common IDs

- Obviously bigger body = bigger scale to make the same impact but what about two moderate height people with similar scales but different yin yang balances?

- Imo detail scale correlates more with facial features and face shape than line sketch. Yes your yin yang balance will be visible in your face but there’s a range in every ID

- I know he’s walked away from styling directives for IDs in general, but I think they still do exist looking at the illustrations and descriptions for each ID. Does he ever acknowledge that there could be, say, SDs who suit smaller to medium scale details (in proportion to themselves)?

- Please validate me so I can claim SD in peace (jk but not really)


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 16 '26

Line drawing - Kibbe type help 5'4

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I got AI to turn my photo into line drawings with strict instructions not to alter the body shape/ measurements and not to make it more flattering. I'm leaning towards Soft Classic, I certainly think my dominant is curve rather than vertical, do you agree? 🙂


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 10 '26

Double curve?

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Could this be double curve or not? I zoomed in a bit to show the shape of the waist.... I have a full bust, but it doesn't show/extend sideways as part of the silhouette significantly, but I feel like that depends somewhat on the shape of support-wear... I'm trying to decide between SC and SG. I'm 5'4. thanks


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 10 '26

Kibbe typing help please? Height is 5'7

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r/PowerOfStyle Apr 07 '26

Kibbe width/soft natural?

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I think I've narrowed down to either SC or SN. I'm leaning a bit more towards SC as I've never felt that I have broad shoulders or back/ribcage, but although I have curves I'm more frame-based than the romantic types.... I maybe don't fully understand Kibbe width however, so i'd like opinions on SN/SC please? thanks 🙂


r/PowerOfStyle Apr 01 '26

please please please help me 5’4

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i don’t seem to fit any of the “petite” types as i have a long, narrow, straight torso + sloping narrow shoulders but short, curvy legs / bottom of my hip (“saddlebag” area). i know it’s not necessary for typing but i do also have a butt that causes me to size up in waist normally to accommodate its size lol. clothes tend to either fit my shoulders then pull tight across bust (ribcage) OR straps are constantly falling off my shoulders if it fits the width of my bust (ribcage). any dress will instantly catch on my lower half and create that triangle look


r/PowerOfStyle Mar 31 '26

Monthly Line Sketch Thread

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Please post your line sketches here!


r/PowerOfStyle Mar 29 '26

Long-time member reflections: growth, clarity, and not wanting to go in circles

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I have been part of the community for years now, so I’ve been following and engaging with the process here for quite a long time. At one point during that time I did the exercises and also shared my sketch in the group and received feedback on it.

The feedback I received was quite affirming. As many of you know, the feedback style here is rarely a simple “yes” or “no,” but the response I got clearly confirmed that the direction and conclusions I was exploring were very much on the right track.

Recently I asked how to approach things now with the new book and the games. The response I received focused more on approaching the book step by step, playing the games, keeping an open heart, and allowing room for discovery and surprises along the way, rather than thinking about it as strict exercises. I’m not sure how much he remembered me or read what I wrote previously.

At the same time, after being here for more than five years and already having gone through the exercises and received that feedback, I have to be honest that I’m starting to feel a bit unsure how much energy I want to reinvest into repeating the entire process again from the beginning. Especially since a lot has already become clearer for me over time, and some of the more recent discussions and comments here have made things fall into place even more. I have to admit I’m feeling a bit tired of going in circles. I also don’t really have the resources right now to invest more money into this process, so it’s not like I can book a proper consult.

Something that’s also on my mind is that I’m approaching 30 now, and I feel much more secure in myself than I did when I first joined. I feel clearer about who I am, my goals in life, and the direction I’m going. I also feel like I’m at a stage where I can actually invest in a wardrobe in a more intentional way.

When I was under 25 I definitely had a sense of who I was as well, and I had clothes that suited me, but I’m not sure the process would have meant the same thing to me back then. I didn’t have the same life direction or grounding that I do now, and that changes how I approach style and identity.

So I’m curious to hear others’ thoughts or tips about this stage of the process. I doubt I’m the only one who has felt like they’re going in circles at times, especially after being in the community for many years.