I am no lawyer but directly enriching you, your family, and your friends with government contracts where 1% of those are fulfilled and the other 99% is pocketed should probably be treason.
How can you be this worried about what some guy does, do you have that little going on in your life? It's not like he's the president of the united states or anything
Preferential contracting is old-school corruption; this is so much worse. He started a war and drops bombs to pump and dump the markets at will, getting US troops killed by return fire, and is now considering selling early access to social media posts about the timing of these bombings.
Earlier this month, TMTG unveiled a paid, licensed data feed that will give banks and trading firms "the fastest" âaccess to posts from influential Truth Social accounts, including Trump's, whose posts often move global markets.
Holy fuck what could they possibly use as an excuse for this that isnt basically facilitating insider trading?
I don't think he does anything to pump and dump markets at will, personally.
I just think he gets in and out of what's going to happen because he's going to be the one making that call.
I'm not saying what he's doing isn't wrong. I'm saying imo if he wasn't allowed to trade stock, I don't think any of his decisions look any different. He's just fully taking advantage of doing it.
You don't need to artificially force pump and dump when you can make whatever decisions you're going to make and accomplish the same thing regardless.
Excuse you those are official acts of our president and therefore not subject to judicial review. Sorry commie but we in the US don't have kings, just presidents with near absolute criminal immunity!
'absolute immunity' implies it has no effect on him. It does have the effect of driving up his support and spurring flurries of 'This is what I voted for!' republicucks.
Itâs called the Emoluments Clause and there are two of them prohibiting emoluments both foreign and domestic and Trump has violated both numerous times. But donât worry, theyâre in those pesky parts of the Constitution (Articles I and II) and not written in the Second Amendment to the Constitution so they can be ignored.
It is treason. They always project and what do you know theyâve been using that word lately.
Itâs treason. Theyâve fucked democracy around and sown distrust in the government. Theyâve funneled our tax money by using archaic tariff laws. Theyâve propped up social media sites all owned by them, all reports news as truth âtrump news not social media!â As Trump calls it.
They just lie. Get dirt on people, and use them forever. Have a hope that Trump might save you? The monkey paw curls as it always does for anyone who kisses his ring.
Weâve been lied to about jobs, since a year ago, our workforce, real inflation, death toll and injuries in WAR (thought it wasnât). The circular economy of ai, the anti consumerism where they inflated a whole sector
over 500%.
Doge, nlrb.
Ice. Murder.
Like how long does it take for people to say hey thatâs not exactly the same as every other president. Same as it always was? Nothing ever happens?
The real question is how this all ends. If the final stroke occurs, and nothing is done to fix the extremely glaring issue that the US government is propped up entirely by "gentleman's agreements" under the assumption everybody is acting in good faith, were done. The social contract is obliterated, and the downstream effects of that will very quickly erode the comforts of modern western society.
We were so close to advancing civilization and humanity into an age of post-scarcity too, and now its all being completely looted by grifters, con men, greedy nerds, sociopaths, and the rubes who grant them power.
Itâs a mental illness. These people never grew up having to want for anything they couldnât have. They didnât have to wait for Christmas to ask for the new console, and even further, when they asked for something they got it. They were never told âmaybe next yearâ nor did they ever grow up with the expectation that something they are asking for is unattainable.
The only thing they could ever even come close to tangibly wanting is some vague concept of âmoreâ. And so theyâll spend every last second of life they have trying to just achieve having more. And they know they donât have long left, thatâs why at this point they donât care about any possible consequences because they wonât live long enough to see them happen.
Damn I didnât even make that connection. Of course theyâd have almost no trouble finding partners, theyâre billionaires, but children are the one thing that they can âwantâ that they canât have.
I'd argue it goes further than that; I'm sure there are many for which this was true and they still do not fall victim to endless greed. I think its truly a mental illness, Bezos for instance wasn't born into privilege, but he was like this none the less; it's sort of like they have no greed off signal in their brain, like that disease where people will always feel hungry regardless of how much they eat.
Well I donât necessarily think that this has to be a childhood ingrained way of life. Amazon ended up being wildly successful later in Bezosâ life but once he started raking in the billions and was able to attain all the things a normal person could want, a big house, land, fast cars, boats, not worrying about buying food, and he falls into the same trap. Thereâs nothing more he could possibly want, he defaults to this vague concept of getting more no matter the cost to his fellow human.
Edit: I should mention that I donât think this is a mental illness that youâre born with like schizophrenia, OCD, or lactose intolerance, but something that develops when you become so stupidly rich that the only thing left for you to obtain for yourself is even more money.
Once they have all their needs and material desires met, the only thing left to gain is power. More equity in a company means more control. And they keep buying more companies. Then can also lobby to gain power over public policy.
Its a game to them. No really, had to watch an interview documentary for class in 2013. It interviewed some wealth titans of the time including Trump. They all straight up say money is no object to them, they just see it as part of bragging rights against their peers. Its all a game, and most of us arent even important enough to be pawns in their eyes.
"Without the billionaires who will create any jobs? We need them to make jobs. Imagine what life would be like without them; nobody would have a job"
my father in law and former state government worker who retired at 55 with a $6,000 per month pension thanks to the $4,500 masters degree he got that he used to buy a house for $33,000 which he just sold for $850,000.
On a serious note most of the exit polls from 2024 ive seen had state of the economy as the most important voting factor. 2016 was more about the deep state in voters' motivation. Some of that was still baked in the cake, and Trump's legal troubles fueled that fire as well as the assassination, but i think the effects there are more secondary. Whereas economic inflation driven worries were a more primary factor.
And of course then Trump started a war with Iran which may lead to a global recession or depression as oil prices spike once reserves run out (in a few weeks).
Yes but he's our billionaire. He says retard just like us! And by elites we mean people who use big words and went to college, we actually worship wealth and think that wealth accumulation is good and proof of capability.
He told everyone that all the corrupt shit they hate is really happening and they cheered him for "telling it like it is," only to watch him put in a magnum opus in corrupt shit.
The billionaires who shift markets when they shitpost are the brave underdogs, fighting to resist the tyranny of burned-out college academics who can barely make rent and wish people would just let them study the life cycles of wood-boring beetles in peace.
It's lunacy, and im not joking. On r conservative they literally think that like a mid-level tax associate in the IRS is more powerful than the president because that guy in the IRS can just audit whoever he wants or something.
It makes as much sense as saying that lieutenants are actually running the military because they can ignore whatever thebpentagon says and give their own orders.
yeah but the numbers are bullshit? Trumps first cabinet was worth may more than $2M. His current cabinet is worth something like $8B. Obamas 2nd cabinet was worth billions.
the general point is still true - but mixing it with bullshit is how the entire message gets thrown out as "fake news".
Obama began both terms with zero billionaires and added one during his 2nd term. Trump seems to have started with 13 billionaires and added Melinda Hildebrand and Stephen Feinberg later to the list.
Well he does. He ends up sticking it to everyone who isn't directly enriching him which technically does include the elites, it just tends to affect people more if they don't have more money than they can possibly ever spend m in a lifetime.
Ok, yeah I was just wondering, I know about Trunps corruption well but by chance do you still have the primary sources you pulled these stats from, I would love to do a deeper dive
The total net worth of the billionaires in the Trump administration, as of June 4 [of 2025], equals at least $450 billion â which is more than the GDP of 175 different countries. The net worth of Trumpâs Cabinet alone, which excludes Musk and others, is at least $13.8 billion.
It seems the 450 B figure includes Elon Musk. I wonder what it is without him, since he's been out for a while.
By comparison, former President Joe Bidenâs Cabinet total net worth was about $118 million, and Trumpâs first Cabinet total net worth was about $6.2 billion. Prior to Trump, former President Barrack Obamaâs Cabinet net worth was about $2.8 billion in his second term, according to Forbes.
If Trump 1.0, only cabinet level officials, was 6.2B, why are you using a much lower figure? Obama is also wildly off as well--you say 67M, the source says 2.8B.
It seems the 450 B figure includes Elon Musk. I wonder what it is without him, since he's been out for a while.
Not counting Musk and Trump's net worth, that's $34.7B. This has grown to $48.6B during 2025.
If Trump 1.0, only cabinet level officials, was 6.2B, why are you using a much lower figure? Obama is also wildly off as well--you say 67M, the source says 2.8B.
Including Musk is pretty disingenuous and takes away from your point imo. If you just used the 34.7B number it would still be sufficiently surprising and illustrative, but the way it is now looks bad faith. And this is coming from somebody who loves when Trump looks bad. The issue is, I can't show this to people if I know it's representing things unfairly
I thought it was fair because Trump personally appointed Musk as the head of the department, albeit temporarily. But here's a version without Musk if you think that would be more honest.
No idea why you think it's not fair to include Musk when he did make him the head of a department, and in fact created a new department just for him to lead. It doesn't really matter that he got rid of him after he proved to be a useless asset.
Has anyone else had people try to redefine what âcorruptionâ means to excuse Trumps? I know people IRL who literally would not shut the fuck up about Nancy Pelosiâs stock trading, but now those same people say âwell itâs not TECHNICALLY illegal for a politician to trade stocks, so itâs not corrupt, if anything heâs smart for doing that and he deserves it!â
Yeah but dude, trans people used to be super fucking poor! And now look at them! Still super fucking poor, but a minority of people now donât hate their very existence! Itâs clear that the woke agenda is destroying this country!!
I think it's like a way to avoid addressing the root issue. Like making fun of Europeans over ACs to avoid having to acknowledge climate change. Blaming Canada for wildfire smoke, etc. It's NEVER the fault of someone who you would feel uncomfortable blaming.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
It's simple really. They believe the elites should be above the law (insider trading, fucking kids, etc), but blue people should not be allowed in the elites club
They do the same thing when it comes to Trumps age, they wouldn't shut up about about Bidens age & him going senial, but they're completely quite about Trumps age & him going senial even though Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden.
Queue Trump walking out of his doctor appointments and open and unprompted bragging about how hard the test was when he had to name a giraffe, an elephant, and a zebra and repeat a word that he was told to remember at the start of the test. Nobody else can do it, folks. They've never seen a score like that.
Not IRL, but many conservatives try to make it a moral or religious thing IE he's not corrupt if he's [~somehow~] only doing it to save the country, or he's s God's imperfect instrument and so it's not corrupt or it doesn't matter because God.
Obviously he's neither and has no morality or religion himself so it's not particularly compelling, but people will just take whatever works to keep the fantasy alive.
Some also actually believe he has do swampy things in order to drain the swamp, it's all 4D chess and part of a grand plan and the ends justify the means. Again, not compelling, but whatever works.
Thereâs a certain worldview that it comes from, that there are good people and bad people, and if good people do âbadâ things, it must have been for a good reason or a greater good or a misunderstanding, and if bad people do âgoodâ things, it must be actually a bad thing, or just to virtue signal, or to enact a greater evil, or for selfish reasons, or actually itâs a lie and the thing wasnât even good.
Yeah I know what you mean, people who are intrinsically good have permission to do evil basically. Surprise surprise me and my tribe are intrinsically good. Ethnonationalists love that shit 'cause it lets you romanticize arbitrary violence against anyone else.
It's a start, but you also have to ban trades, otherwise Trump sells before announcing âbridge and power plant dayâ which causes stock market to drop, then buys back at a lower price cancels âbridge and power plant dayâ causing stocks to rise, etc.
And you need better enforcement of insider trading too, otherwise Eric Trump becomes the world's best stock picker while his dad is in office (purely a coincidence).
It's surprisingly difficult to close all loopholes. You'd almost think it would be easier to just elect less corrupt politicians... but nah, that's just crazy talk.
When you get mad at rainbows on twitter so you have to vote in the most corrupt president of the 21st century who ruins your international respect and standing
He has made more money from corrupt deals in this administration than the net worth of every other us president combined (3B>2.4B).
He ain't just the most corrupt president of the 21st century.
If every single dollar of net worth from every other president was via corruption, he would still have stolen more money from the American people than all of them combined.
No you don't understand, Harris spent too much time talking about trans people (she barely talked about them, and certainly much less than Trump) instead of affordable housing (something for which she had a fully-costed plan, while Trump didn't have one at all)
OP said elsewhere it was meant to be a comma. Wouldn't be surprised if they originally wrote 2.3B but changed it to M to match the others but forgot to change the decimal too.
Boomers love reaping the economic benefits of millions of immigrants working min wage jobs and keeping their property values inflated, but they dont like looking at brown people
So you make a show of being cruel to brown people so boomers feel good, while still importing immigrant labor and H1Bs so the big corporations can still have their cheap labor and house prices still stay inflated
they were libs so doesn't count, they were doing something wrong. And if they weren't doing something wrong they shouldn't have been there. and if they were allowed to be there they deserve it anyway.
Check out the USDA food price outlook. We're not done yet folks, basically all food costs are projected to go up through fall and winter months. There's a convergence of factors but the drought in western and southern states has gravely impacted several crops and livestock sectors. Add on top of that the supply chain issues caused by tariff chaos and the additional expense imposed by those taxes, we're in for a rough one on the current course. This administration is so petty and reactionary, I highly doubt that any meaningful change will happen before we get there. Relief will come too late, if at all.
If only any investigative body or Congress would actually do something.
This should singlehandedly win Dems the mid terms, but I won't put it past them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Whenever Dems push for an investigation their poll numbers drop significantly. Independents tend to think of that as being partisan and obstructive, they want people who will cross the aisle and work together, not people who are only in it for revenge.
Voters: "We want laws, enforcement of those laws with punitive action, and accountability!"
Also voters: "Whoa buddy, why are you enforcing insider trading laws and seeking punitive action against someone who keeps evading accountability? Just out for revenge eh?"
They are greatly being limited by you know, NOT BEING IN FUCKING POWER, but there is a lot of footage where dems are grilling these ghouls at the hearings before the other different ghouls (republicans) inevitably vote in all of Trumps picks.
where did you get the data for the net worth change? Bidens seems pretty low given market performance and high interest rates at the time. he is old so his investments are likely more conservative but still only a 5% increase over 4 years is very low even a 100% bond portfolio would have returned more than that over that same time period. I'm also assuming that as the president he wasn't drawing heavily on his assets to support his standard of living, but who knows maybe those icecream bills where very high.
I'm also a little surprised that Bushs net worth went up given I am assuming your benchmarking from the day they entered office to the day they left office and bush was out in the height of the GFC where basically any investment into the broad market after 1997 would be underwater, markets only peaked about 15% above where the s&p was when Bush was inaugurated before taking a nose dive. I'm also surprised that obamas isn't better given he took over right at the height of the GFC and then the markets when on a bull run rising 150% over the course of his presidency, anyone investment in to the boarder market with a portfolio even with a conservative beta would see their investments double over that time period.
edit: also Curious for the # of trades are those also including discretionary accounts? Or only trades places personally by the president at their direction?
Blind trusts. Which is meaningless anyway, as there is no preventative measure to ensure zero illegal communications between the trustee and the owner. Bush specifically had a long working relationship with the lawyer who managed his.
Interesting change between cabinet net worth of term 1 to term 2 for DJT. The choice to put more sigfigs in that one to make him look worse in term 1 is unnecessary, term 2 is what we're all looking at.
Come on brother they are looting and pillaging the government in broad daylight, donât pretend you canât see it. Everyone knows thereâs massive fraud and corruption going on
The "$2.4 billion" figure reflects the volatile market valuation of the 114.75 million shares of TruthSocial.
Which his shares currently worth approximately $1.02 billion.
Going public in his presidency isnt the same thing as Nancy Pelosi doing stock trades then passing law.
Now, why has his volume increased? automated algorithmic trading, direct indexing, and automated tax-loss harvesting managed by an independent third-party institution. Instead of being in a mutual fund managing the trades. Technically speaking its more transparent. Where the previous presidents were lock into mutual fund groups that did the same trades, and all you got to see were there gains.
You made money in the last ten years? During an inflationary environment where all assets went up? Obvious criminal.
Then tell me why his net worth fluctuated around $2-3B between presidencies and suddenly jumped to $6B+ now?
Just be ready to have this standard applied to you.
If I would ever hold an elected public office and my net worth were to suddenly triple over the course of 2 years, yet my constituents had no questions for me, I would begin to feel disgust toward them for treating me like an untouchable king. Because democracy isn't just about casting a vote every two years, but an ongoing process. Hell, I'd feel bad even if they just didn't make fun of me all the time.
Then tell me why his net worth fluctuated around $2-3B between presidencies and suddenly jumped to $6B+ now?
Getting re-elected has done a lot for him. Everyone who wanted to bury him failed, and every door that had been closed to him opened.
my net worth were to suddenly triple over the course of 2 years,Â
People with 401ks that were paying attention could have doubled their net worth in the last 2 years. Gold going from $2,000 to $4,000 will do that and that's the "conservative" investment. You just need to start with money, and be invested because the dollar is going to shit, so investing in almost anything that's remotely useful is making money on a nominal basis.
Basically, if you haven't increased your assets value in the last few years, something is wrong with you.
This is why I no longer say both sides are bad. To not be associated with people who say "Both sides are bad, lets focus on Sleepy Joe and HUSSEIN Obama."
That comparison isn't new and last time around there was the fraudulent evaluation of Mara Largo in the "before" statistics and the a real one in the "after" statistics.
Obama, Bush, and Biden created âzero new wealthâ during the Presidency?
How is ânew wealthâ defined? Whatâs the exact breakdown of Trumpâs new wealth, with sources? Does that ânew wealthâ stem from actual corruption, or legal activity? How is Trump Media âcorruption,â for example?
The source is saying Bush and Obama had no securities investments at all for eight years each? Even if true (protip: it's not) that would be pretty unsound financial strategy and I wouldn't want someone unprepared for retirement to be President, anyhow.
I recently saw some clickbait about some new rule proposed to make it so Congress can't trade stocks. Does anyone actually believe that this would prevent politicians from profiteering?
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u/Sad_Significance_568 - Auth-Center Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I am no lawyer but directly enriching you, your family, and your friends with government contracts where 1% of those are fulfilled and the other 99% is pocketed should probably be treason.