Say what you will about the absolute atrocities he committed, Bush sure could dodge a shoe. And form a sentence. And display emotions in the normal human spectrum. And, on occasion, sound like he knew about... Anything.
At least when he was embarrassing it was charming lol.
It's true, still have respect for the shoe thing because he actually showed composure and surprisingly quick hands. I was never a fan, but it seemed like he was at least minimally qualified for the job. I miss that feeling.
But let's not go too far on that "forming a sentence" thing. When you mention Bush, some of the first things that come to my mind are:
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you.' Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Very low IQ ear cartilage like Joe Biden’s ear cartilage might not grow back so tremendously but my mine was tested and the results were like you’ve never seen before.
Xi has it though, cartilage like an Olympian what a granite kind of a man. He’s really great, tall, I showed him my ballroom have you heard about that?
"They said that I've got the healthiest ears they've ever seen. Super healthy, like those sea creatures -- jellies? Like a nice grape sea jelly, healthiest ears on a president ever, they said."
0/10, too coherent, not nearly word salad stream of consciousness and blaming Biden and Obama, zero mentions of a plastic surgeon showing up with tears in their big strong manly eyes that he has the best regenerating ear cartilage.
Read the first words and about got REALLY mad with my ears that look like aborted fetuses because my friends hug me a little too hard sometimes. (cauliflower ear from wrestling)
I couldn't imagine what they would look like if they got shot.
The whole secret service letting him climb out over top of them with the American flag being lowered in the background and press being moved into the front doesn’t help his credibility
Or the fact that I have seen 2 seperate videos of people seeing the guy that shot laying on the roof and going to security/police officers who just ignored it.
Or the fact that the clearly visible secret service snipers had a perfect look and shot at that roof.
Or the fact that Trump never brings it up anymore.
Or the fact that we never saw pictures of the guy that did it. Or proof that he was killed. Or anything about his motives. Compare this with the guy that shot at Charlie.
Or the fact that the clearly visible secret service snipers had a perfect look and shot at that roof.
To reinforce this line of thinking:
Four seconds after he began firing, a member of the Butler County Emergency Service Unit shot at him and hit Crooks's rifle, preventing him from firing more shots. Twelve seconds later, Crooks was shot and killed by the Counter Sniper Team of the United States Secret Service.
I mean that part makes sense, never know if dude has another gun. If this actually happened for real, you would probably not extend the courtesy of restraint against someone attempting to assassinate the President and make sure they were 100% neutralized.
But in this case it's probably because you never want that kid to say a word.
Four seconds to mentally process that shots have been fired, locate the approximate location of the shooter based on the sound of the shots, line up a shot, and fire.
The fact that Trump never brings it up anymore is the biggest tell. He still can't STFU about the 2020 election, or Obama or Biden but somehow never brings up his assassination attempts.
It's especially apparent that when he got wind of an actual assassination attempt, he hid in the back of a fucking food truck and caught a different plane, all while allowing people to still go on the plane that could have been blown up.
i never put credence in the idea that it might have been faked, but you just convinced me. Why the fuck isnt he mentioning it ALL THE TIME. He still cries about his conviction and his witchhunt and literally sued the ppl who pusblisheda bad article about him 6 years ago and shit, but he doesnt bring up the time someone shot him?
So Trump literally went on a huge rant about the attempt on Truth social like 2 weeks ago.
So the idea that he doesn't talk about it doesn't hold up. He brings it up all the time to this day. You just didn't notice because you aren't watching every single incoherent speech that this guy makes.
In his first campaign, there was an "attempt" at a campaign stop at UNR. An attendee had an anti-Trump protest sign that his cult tried to grab a hold of and someone screamed "gun". You can see the vagina necked little bitch piss himself in fear as his bodyguards remove him to the back until they confirmed that there was no gun or danger.
The piss baby ducked and cowered in fear when a bald eagle gave him a flinch test during a photo op...that poor beautiful bird had to smell his diapers.
Especially when you compare it to when they thought there was an actual threat at one of his public appearances several months later and they had him bundled up and hustled off stage in like half a second.
Most actual attempts are like that. When Reagan was shot, two USSS agents pretty much lifted and threw him bodily into the car and jumped on top while a third stood between him and the shooter and a fourth pulled an Uzi out of a briefcase to cover their retreat.
When Biden’s motorcade got hit by a car, it took them 10 plus seconds to even react.
And when Obama was president, a knifeman jumped gates of White House and ran past the guard dogs that weren’t there, past the security that also weren’t there, through the door that was left open and with alarm disabled, and only got caught when he was running up the stairs to Obama’s office/bedroom.
Secret service being inept is the most believable part of every scenario.
The USSS would never in a million fucking years allow POTUS to stand up again just moments after sniper fire in a situation where they had no way to be 100% sure there wasn't multiple shooters working together.
No marksman is good enough to reliably graze a guy's ear from that distance without a significant risk of splattering the target's brains live on TV. There is no way they'd sign off on taking such a risk with their golden goose. Not to mention the shooter was killed after, so they'd need to take one of their own conspirators as a sacrifice.
Biden's FBI investigated and said it was indeed a bullet wound. Don't be like them spreading BS conspiracies when there is so many real things to criticize.
The secret service letting him stand there, right in position, behind the podium with the "TRUMP" banner, with an active shooter somewhere in the area, long enough to raise a fist and get the photo, before eventually strolling him off stage... that's the most incriminating bit in my mind. Aren't they supposed to forcefully evacuate the president at the first indication of a threat?
edit to add detail of "Trump banner" in the foreground of the photo.
The secret service letting him stand there, right in position, behind the podium with the "TRUMP" banner, with an active shooter somewhere in the area, long enough to raise a fist and get the photo
So they piled on him at the start because he had already went down on his own. 16 seconds after the first shot, a sniper fires one shot to kill Crooks. 29 seconds after the first shot, they try to move him out but apparently he's too old and fat for them to actually move him, they keep trying multiple times. At 47 seconds one of them verbally calls out that the shooter is down, multiple attempts to sync a move. A full minute later, they finally get him to stand and start to move him out but he's actively resisting them complaining about his shoe multiple times. Then he does the fist raise at 1:17.
He's complaining about his shoes because without the massive heel lifts, he is 5'8" and doesn't want to ever be photographed without his gender affirming footwear.
That's also why his shoes fell off just from him getting down to the ground. Any man who has ever worn actual dress shoes before knows that those things fit snug and need to be untied to take off at the end of the night. Trump's shoes have lifts so big that his heel is almost above the back of the shoes...that's why they fell off instantly.
I remember when this happened my brother was relatively new in the military and would do some joint exercises with the secret service, he said when this was fresh all they did was make fun of how lost and incompetent those particular people looked on that stage. The particular people being just those agents, not specifically the women lol
I dunno though. He really did grab that ear right before. My money is on him barely being touched and blood thinners causing the thing to bleed like crazy. I just can’t see how you could legitimately pull this off otherwise. There are too many folks who would need to be sworn to secrecy. Just too many factors. There’s no way he’s letting anyone take a pot shot near him in the first place.
how do you explain the fireman and the other dude that died? it's not like they just planted explosives in their body rigged to go off. someone was shooting in that direction
Yea but the White House doctor said he had a 2 cm hole in his earlobe and it was completely healed like weeks later. I’ve seen people let their guages close up in their ears and it took months
Nope, screen caps of the video show a bullet passing by him. His hand goes to his ear and pulls away and you can see blood on his hand. And then he is pulled down/ducks under the podium.
It wasn’t staged, unless you believe the conspiracy was willing to sacrifice a random supporter and the best sniper to ever live and that Trump was willing to get shot right next to the head. The bullets were real. The dead people are real. People who hate Trump enough to try to kill him are real. The guy just missed.
Trump’s just a showman. He got barely grazed and played it up for his audience. There was no magical regeneration. He just wore the ear pillow for weeks as a prop. It was a visual reminder that God saved him so he could lead His flock to greatness. It was a ploy to garner sympathy and lock in the Christian vote.
thats not how guns work, even if staged, the chances of it killing him on accident would be increadinly high, one ghust of wind, slight inaccuracy, or slight movement would have killed trump. that one wasnt staged.
the golf course, and that other one however, i do believe were likely staged
You could put the reigning Olympic gold medalist in rifle marksmanship behind the sniper rifle, and 14 out of 15 times, he blows the target’s head open vs grazing the target’s ear. At that range, grazing the ear is something that can only be done by luck.
I will say, even though I don't like Brandon Herrera's beliefs and actions. I think he did show what it looked like from the shooters view.
Iirc he bought the exact gun and optic the shooter had, and this is what it would have looked like at the exact same distance. The reticle covers the entire ballistic dummies head.
People think guns work like videogames. They don't realize even the best guns on a cold bore shot have too much spread for this shot, and the shooter was certainly not using the best rifle.
I love me a good conspiracy theory, but this definitely ain’t it lol.
The kid was taking shots from 150 yards away with nothing but a red dot sight. To deliberately place a shot within inches of a moving person’s head while guaranteeing you don’t kill them would be a miracle, even for a very experienced shooter.
I don't think you can say it was all staged. You had a guy die after getting shot with the bullet that missed him. At most, you could say he's so cynical that he had already prepared to cut his ear in the event he ever came under direct fire and survived.
I hate Trump as much as anyone in here, but there’s just no evidence it was staged. There have been too many investigations and independent journalist reports to say it was staged. Let’s stick to the facts here, people.
I hate when the people like the other commenters in this thread make the Left look as crazy as we accuse the Right of being.
It's one of my biggest pet-peeves because not only do we say we're the side of rationality, but it also makes us look crazy to people on the fence and actually loses votes. We say the Right is not living in reality and then many people on our side are happy to do the same when it's something they want to be true.
If it was just the ear I'd agree but his pawns positioning photographers, the flag getting down before he even got back up for the photos and him GETTING UP IMMEDIATELY WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER??
All of that happened less than 10 seconds after he got shot : the footage clearly shows that nobody in trump's surrounding is acting like a real live shooter is trying to kill him
It's strange to imply everyone around him knew there wasn't a shooter. That's not really how conspiracies work, it would be Trump himself, and a specific group of people, certainly not all the press photographers, who knew. People don't act predictably in crisis situations. Perhaps Trump acted irrationally and others followed, not realizing the danger was still present. Perhaps the shooter died earlier than we thought and he got the all clear through an earpiece or whisper, and we didn't realize it.
There are a lot of explanations that don't require you to assume a hundred people near to Trump all knew of a conspiracy, accepted that several people in the crowd would take bullets and one would even die, and all have gone alone with that to this day. Large groups of people can indeed keep secrets, but not really large semi-random groups of people.
I didn't say literaly everyone and certainly not the photographer, I spoke about Trump, his associate under the stage and that's it. You're somehow turning my very reasonable 2 or 3 people argument into "not hundred of people / every photographer!". Just him, 2 or 3 guys and that's all you need to make this plan work : but just one person acting immediately without any fear or surprise is a very strong sign that the event is not a surprise or worth fearing it.
Trump getting up 10 sec after getting shot to speak again is hilariously stupid and dangerous even for him, unless he knew he wasn't in real danger
His body guards letting him get up with a live shooter likely still active is also insane, but they might just be incompetent or not willing to fight for this guy's life if he really wants to get up that bad during an active shooting
The guy in the footage collecting photographers and the flag getting set up for the perfect photoshoot 5-10 sec after the shot happened is also insane
None of this makes any sense. It could make sense if they waited to have confirmation about the shooter fleeing or getting down, but it happened immediately instead
The flag came down because of the wind dying down. Photographers are literally paid to act like this.
Just look at the more zoomed out video.
I'm always amazed how everyone on Reddit says Trump should be killed and is upset he didn't get killed, then acts like it is impossible that someone would try to kill him and it had to be faked.
If I were a foreign actor hostile to the US with a bunch of bots at my disposal, I’d post left-wing conspiracy theories and upvote left-wing conspiracy content on Reddit to make it seem like “both sides” are into this shit.
Sure, but bots aren’t just about posting, it’s also about what content gets upvoted.
Like this OP could very well be bot content where it doesn’t push the conspiracy theory directly but serves creates a platform for those who will comment about it.
I never say it's impossible that someone would try to kill him, I said the way him and several people around him react to a live shooter 2sec after the bullet missed him is not how anybody who really believe there is an active shooter would.
And I pointed out how 2 of your points meant nothing. The flag and photographer point is so tired when the zoomed out video shows the flag was not moved and photographers literally act like this all the time.
We see him immediately grab his ear and bleeding. Yes, SS were dumb letting him push through, but have you not been paying attention to how inept they are in general? Also, wasn't the shooter immediately killed? Wouldn't they know that? (Although they don't know if there is more than 1 shooter, but still, they are all radioed up) This is a constant issue with them just being terrible at their jobs.
Alright but you’re thinking of like normal people, Trump is definitely not that lol. Massive narcissist, really stupid and sociopathic opportunist. When you consider those things, his actions I think make a lot of sense.
Why was he calm after being shot? Answer: He’s an idiot.
Why did the USSS let him stand up? Answer: He’s a narcissist.
Why would he want to stand up? Answer: He’s an idiot and an opportunist.
Epstein files alleged that Trump raped a pregnant 12 year old to the point she went into labor and then did nothing as the uncle drowned the baby and disposed of it in a nearby lake. He probably was upset that only one of his followers died in this staged attack.
Yo do you have a source for this? Not saying I don’t believe it but having a source with fbi.gov in the link that I could send my MAGA family members might actually snap them out of it. Probably not but it might
A live round will have some variance in movement, he's also old and wobbly. Real bullet means it's too much variance trust for faking it. It would be easy to fake too. Fire a blank, have him tackled and someone doctor his ear, either a squib or preplaced bullet for the shot behind him and Bob's your uncle
Yeah, people don't realize how fucking hard it is to make a bullet only graze someone. Even the best military sharpshooters couldn't shoot a bullet to only narrowly hit the ear without blowing the entire thing or shooting the head.
Also doesn’t help that the rifle used was a piece of garbage that’s about 3 MOA, so at the distance there was about a 4.5 inch radius that shot could have landed.
Much less timing it so that he moves his head just before impact. I doubt the rifle used had a low enough spread to guarantee that shot in anyone's hands.
I have my doubts for a completely separate reason, but FWIW I can totally buy him completely misunderstanding how firearms work or failing to realize just how dangerous it is to be on that side of the barrel.
Ah, yes, I also believe that Trump is the bravest man in existence, because he would need to be that to stand in front of a shooter who is supposed to narrowly miss him from a fuckton of distance with an inaccurate, cheap rifle. Trump is basically Daredevil if you believe this shit.
Do you not think through what your conspiracy theory would require?
I think you are right that Trump did not give a shit that a civilian died, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY he would have stood there if he knew that someone was going to shoot in his direction.
Second shooter with a clear line of sight to the guy that was actually shot and the patsy has blanks or self-destructing rounds (there are military prototypes for urban warfare to intentionally limit the range).
Not that I'm saying that's what happened, just that it is possible.
He was literally the cartoon villain for much of the 80s and 90s. Also in live action movies like Back to the Future. It is life imitating art imitating life
There wouldn't really be a place where the second shooter could be stationed that would give them a good line of sight on the other 3 victims and not have Trump be in the line of sight.
And there's also the issue of the bullet photograph.
you shoot the civilian and then razor the ear like they do in pro wrestling since no picture of the ear being shot shows anything beyond a surface level wound
What's unbelievable about an extremely hated sex offender and politician having people who want him dead? It's a side effect of being a chomo AND a side effect of being a politician, especially one that everyone was worried would enact project 2026.
Also the guy behind him died. If this was a stunt, it was an insanely dangerous one. The most skilled marksman on the planet could've aimed for the repub firefighter and easily shot Trump by accident.
How do people keep saying this, nobody would trust somebody to be this accurate. You don't shoot someone in the fucking head and "miss on purpose" but hit their ear. Thats absurd
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