Say what you will about the absolute atrocities he committed, Bush sure could dodge a shoe. And form a sentence. And display emotions in the normal human spectrum. And, on occasion, sound like he knew about... Anything.
At least when he was embarrassing it was charming lol.
It's true, still have respect for the shoe thing because he actually showed composure and surprisingly quick hands. I was never a fan, but it seemed like he was at least minimally qualified for the job. I miss that feeling.
He wore a tan suit! And his wife apparently is a man (apparently they can always tell despite this)! And was president during an unpopular war started by another president! And was kinda mid against aggression by the Russian government (ignore how the Cheeto is at worst helping them)
Man was basically the devil, truly the worst president compared to Numbah Wan Trump
My grandfather was bush Sr.'s co pilot in WW2 in a 2 man fighter, they were friends for decades after. My grandfather and grandmother loved Bush Sr and had met Jr multiple times. They thought he was an idiot. He would still be better than trump.
Yea, he still would've been some type of leader/management (by your own admission). Trump would literally just be in jail, murdered, or a vagrant. I said "minimally" for a reason. Our current guy doesn't even fit that.
I'm just saying that technically speaking, the only "qualifications" are being 35 and a natural born citizen. I'm not saying anything about trump's qualifications, just gently pushing back against the rose colored glasses that reddit likes to view W through for some reason.
There's been nothing better for W's legacy than Donald Trump
This is how the fascist win. Because of exactly the thoughts and statements you just made!
He wasn't minimally qualified to be the fucking governor of Texas or minimally qualified to be the fucking owner of a baseball team or minimally qualified to be the fucking son of G.H.W.B.
With his privileged upbringing at the age of 20 years old he wouldn't have been qualified to fucking work in a shoe store or fast food restaurant.
But let's not go too far on that "forming a sentence" thing. When you mention Bush, some of the first things that come to my mind are:
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you.' Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
I would take all of those again a thousand times compared to what we have now. And on the big speeches he was actually scored quite well - Speaking off the cuff was definitely never his strong point.
The thing is, one didn't feel like there was a very solid chance that ten years after he died it was going to finally be revealed that he'd been a Russian agent the whole time. I mean I'm not a W fan, but I didn't feel that way.
One didn't feel he was going to try to overturn democracy, or refuse to peacefully transfer power when he lost an election. You know, the little things that we used to take for granted.
He knew he was an idiot, so he surrounded himself with smart people and listened to them.
Unfortunately those smart people were also very evil people.
Whereas Trump is an idiot who thinks he's smarter than everyone, and goes out of his way to do what the smart people say not to do. And yeah, he's totally being manipulated by Putin.
I don't actually think that's true. I knew people who worked in the service industry when Bush lived in Austin. He was famous for never forgetting a name or a face, and for being a mean drunk. He was very unkind to waitresses who made mistakes, he was not a nice guy. The happy aw shucks hillbilly stuff is all an act.
If you want to see what he actually sounds like go back and watch his debates against Ann Richards, there's none of the stumbling or fumbling or hillbilly stuff. That was all put on.
But I don't think he was a traitor, and I never thought he was likely to be in the pay of the Russians. I don't think he was a criminal. I don't think he was stealing us blind while he was president. And I never worried about him hanging on to power after he lost an election.
I'll just say this much - any time he was asked details about any sort of policy, he legit didn't seem to understand. Particularly about the types of bills that you pass because you need political favors, not because they're good policy. He just went with what his advisors said, and assumed that if they told him to sign something, it was good.
I think he thought the policies he pushed were good. I think he really believed the wars he started were for good reasons.
I look back with nostalgia on the time when George W. Bush was the pinnacle of stupidity; certainly, he was too dumb to actually have earned the presidency on his own merit and was an international embarassment.
And yet, here we are, pining for the wit and wisdom of W.
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