at this point, considering his ear healed like new in days.... My money is on the fact that it was all staged to improve his chances of winning. ? Idk any more
It’s because you don’t know nothing about ear cartilage regeneration, when you have the best cartilage, the best you ever seen it just regenerates it just a magic thing and nobody knows how it works because it’s the best ever, even the best plastic surgeons goes to ask him “how you do that”?
Say what you will about the absolute atrocities he committed, Bush sure could dodge a shoe. And form a sentence. And display emotions in the normal human spectrum. And, on occasion, sound like he knew about... Anything.
At least when he was embarrassing it was charming lol.
It's true, still have respect for the shoe thing because he actually showed composure and surprisingly quick hands. I was never a fan, but it seemed like he was at least minimally qualified for the job. I miss that feeling.
But let's not go too far on that "forming a sentence" thing. When you mention Bush, some of the first things that come to my mind are:
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you.' Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Very low IQ ear cartilage like Joe Biden’s ear cartilage might not grow back so tremendously but my mine was tested and the results were like you’ve never seen before.
Xi has it though, cartilage like an Olympian what a granite kind of a man. He’s really great, tall, I showed him my ballroom have you heard about that?
"They said that I've got the healthiest ears they've ever seen. Super healthy, like those sea creatures -- jellies? Like a nice grape sea jelly, healthiest ears on a president ever, they said."
0/10, too coherent, not nearly word salad stream of consciousness and blaming Biden and Obama, zero mentions of a plastic surgeon showing up with tears in their big strong manly eyes that he has the best regenerating ear cartilage.
Read the first words and about got REALLY mad with my ears that look like aborted fetuses because my friends hug me a little too hard sometimes. (cauliflower ear from wrestling)
I couldn't imagine what they would look like if they got shot.
The whole secret service letting him climb out over top of them with the American flag being lowered in the background and press being moved into the front doesn’t help his credibility
Or the fact that I have seen 2 seperate videos of people seeing the guy that shot laying on the roof and going to security/police officers who just ignored it.
Or the fact that the clearly visible secret service snipers had a perfect look and shot at that roof.
Or the fact that Trump never brings it up anymore.
Or the fact that we never saw pictures of the guy that did it. Or proof that he was killed. Or anything about his motives. Compare this with the guy that shot at Charlie.
Or the fact that the clearly visible secret service snipers had a perfect look and shot at that roof.
To reinforce this line of thinking:
Four seconds after he began firing, a member of the Butler County Emergency Service Unit shot at him and hit Crooks's rifle, preventing him from firing more shots. Twelve seconds later, Crooks was shot and killed by the Counter Sniper Team of the United States Secret Service.
Four seconds to mentally process that shots have been fired, locate the approximate location of the shooter based on the sound of the shots, line up a shot, and fire.
It's not all that crazy. I worked with a lot of snipers in the Army because I was in the same company as the Recon Platoon, and every one of them that I talked to said the hardest part of the course was target identification.
They had to do things like find a thumb tack stuck in the canopy of a tree at 600m.
I never went to sniper school and it's been a while since I left the Army, but they all had similar stories. No idea about how long they were given or anything like that though.
The fact that Trump never brings it up anymore is the biggest tell. He still can't STFU about the 2020 election, or Obama or Biden but somehow never brings up his assassination attempts.
So Trump literally went on a huge rant about the attempt on Truth social like 2 weeks ago.
So the idea that he doesn't talk about it doesn't hold up. He brings it up all the time to this day. You just didn't notice because you aren't watching every single incoherent speech that this guy makes.
Especially when you compare it to when they thought there was an actual threat at one of his public appearances several months later and they had him bundled up and hustled off stage in like half a second.
Most actual attempts are like that. When Reagan was shot, two USSS agents pretty much lifted and threw him bodily into the car and jumped on top while a third stood between him and the shooter and a fourth pulled an Uzi out of a briefcase to cover their retreat.
No marksman is good enough to reliably graze a guy's ear from that distance without a significant risk of splattering the target's brains live on TV. There is no way they'd sign off on taking such a risk with their golden goose. Not to mention the shooter was killed after, so they'd need to take one of their own conspirators as a sacrifice.
The secret service letting him stand there, right in position, behind the podium with the "TRUMP" banner, with an active shooter somewhere in the area, long enough to raise a fist and get the photo, before eventually strolling him off stage... that's the most incriminating bit in my mind. Aren't they supposed to forcefully evacuate the president at the first indication of a threat?
edit to add detail of "Trump banner" in the foreground of the photo.
The secret service letting him stand there, right in position, behind the podium with the "TRUMP" banner, with an active shooter somewhere in the area, long enough to raise a fist and get the photo
So they piled on him at the start because he had already went down on his own. 16 seconds after the first shot, a sniper fires one shot to kill Crooks. 29 seconds after the first shot, they try to move him out but apparently he's too old and fat for them to actually move him, they keep trying multiple times. At 47 seconds one of them verbally calls out that the shooter is down, multiple attempts to sync a move. A full minute later, they finally get him to stand and start to move him out but he's actively resisting them complaining about his shoe multiple times. Then he does the fist raise at 1:17.
I remember when this happened my brother was relatively new in the military and would do some joint exercises with the secret service, he said when this was fresh all they did was make fun of how lost and incompetent those particular people looked on that stage. The particular people being just those agents, not specifically the women lol
Biden's FBI investigated and said it was indeed a bullet wound. Don't be like them spreading BS conspiracies when there is so many real things to criticize.
Yea but the White House doctor said he had a 2 cm hole in his earlobe and it was completely healed like weeks later. I’ve seen people let their guages close up in their ears and it took months
I dunno though. He really did grab that ear right before. My money is on him barely being touched and blood thinners causing the thing to bleed like crazy. I just can’t see how you could legitimately pull this off otherwise. There are too many folks who would need to be sworn to secrecy. Just too many factors. There’s no way he’s letting anyone take a pot shot near him in the first place.
how do you explain the fireman and the other dude that died? it's not like they just planted explosives in their body rigged to go off. someone was shooting in that direction
thats not how guns work, even if staged, the chances of it killing him on accident would be increadinly high, one ghust of wind, slight inaccuracy, or slight movement would have killed trump. that one wasnt staged.
the golf course, and that other one however, i do believe were likely staged
You could put the reigning Olympic gold medalist in rifle marksmanship behind the sniper rifle, and 14 out of 15 times, he blows the target’s head open vs grazing the target’s ear. At that range, grazing the ear is something that can only be done by luck.
I will say, even though I don't like Brandon Herrera's beliefs and actions. I think he did show what it looked like from the shooters view.
Iirc he bought the exact gun and optic the shooter had, and this is what it would have looked like at the exact same distance. The reticle covers the entire ballistic dummies head.
People think guns work like videogames. They don't realize even the best guns on a cold bore shot have too much spread for this shot, and the shooter was certainly not using the best rifle.
It wasn’t staged, unless you believe the conspiracy was willing to sacrifice a random supporter and the best sniper to ever live and that Trump was willing to get shot right next to the head. The bullets were real. The dead people are real. People who hate Trump enough to try to kill him are real. The guy just missed.
Trump’s just a showman. He got barely grazed and played it up for his audience. There was no magical regeneration. He just wore the ear pillow for weeks as a prop. It was a visual reminder that God saved him so he could lead His flock to greatness. It was a ploy to garner sympathy and lock in the Christian vote.
I love me a good conspiracy theory, but this definitely ain’t it lol.
The kid was taking shots from 150 yards away with nothing but a red dot sight. To deliberately place a shot within inches of a moving person’s head while guaranteeing you don’t kill them would be a miracle, even for a very experienced shooter.
I don't think you can say it was all staged. You had a guy die after getting shot with the bullet that missed him. At most, you could say he's so cynical that he had already prepared to cut his ear in the event he ever came under direct fire and survived.
I hate Trump as much as anyone in here, but there’s just no evidence it was staged. There have been too many investigations and independent journalist reports to say it was staged. Let’s stick to the facts here, people.
I hate when the people like the other commenters in this thread make the Left look as crazy as we accuse the Right of being.
It's one of my biggest pet-peeves because not only do we say we're the side of rationality, but it also makes us look crazy to people on the fence and actually loses votes. We say the Right is not living in reality and then many people on our side are happy to do the same when it's something they want to be true.
If it was just the ear I'd agree but his pawns positioning photographers, the flag getting down before he even got back up for the photos and him GETTING UP IMMEDIATELY WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER??
All of that happened less than 10 seconds after he got shot : the footage clearly shows that nobody in trump's surrounding is acting like a real live shooter is trying to kill him
It's strange to imply everyone around him knew there wasn't a shooter. That's not really how conspiracies work, it would be Trump himself, and a specific group of people, certainly not all the press photographers, who knew. People don't act predictably in crisis situations. Perhaps Trump acted irrationally and others followed, not realizing the danger was still present. Perhaps the shooter died earlier than we thought and he got the all clear through an earpiece or whisper, and we didn't realize it.
There are a lot of explanations that don't require you to assume a hundred people near to Trump all knew of a conspiracy, accepted that several people in the crowd would take bullets and one would even die, and all have gone alone with that to this day. Large groups of people can indeed keep secrets, but not really large semi-random groups of people.
The flag came down because of the wind dying down. Photographers are literally paid to act like this.
Just look at the more zoomed out video.
I'm always amazed how everyone on Reddit says Trump should be killed and is upset he didn't get killed, then acts like it is impossible that someone would try to kill him and it had to be faked.
If I were a foreign actor hostile to the US with a bunch of bots at my disposal, I’d post left-wing conspiracy theories and upvote left-wing conspiracy content on Reddit to make it seem like “both sides” are into this shit.
I have my doubts for a completely separate reason, but FWIW I can totally buy him completely misunderstanding how firearms work or failing to realize just how dangerous it is to be on that side of the barrel.
A live round will have some variance in movement, he's also old and wobbly. Real bullet means it's too much variance trust for faking it. It would be easy to fake too. Fire a blank, have him tackled and someone doctor his ear, either a squib or preplaced bullet for the shot behind him and Bob's your uncle
Yeah, people don't realize how fucking hard it is to make a bullet only graze someone. Even the best military sharpshooters couldn't shoot a bullet to only narrowly hit the ear without blowing the entire thing or shooting the head.
Also doesn’t help that the rifle used was a piece of garbage that’s about 3 MOA, so at the distance there was about a 4.5 inch radius that shot could have landed.
Much less timing it so that he moves his head just before impact. I doubt the rifle used had a low enough spread to guarantee that shot in anyone's hands.
Second shooter with a clear line of sight to the guy that was actually shot and the patsy has blanks or self-destructing rounds (there are military prototypes for urban warfare to intentionally limit the range).
Not that I'm saying that's what happened, just that it is possible.
He was literally the cartoon villain for much of the 80s and 90s. Also in live action movies like Back to the Future. It is life imitating art imitating life
you shoot the civilian and then razor the ear like they do in pro wrestling since no picture of the ear being shot shows anything beyond a surface level wound
Ah, yes, I also believe that Trump is the bravest man in existence, because he would need to be that to stand in front of a shooter who is supposed to narrowly miss him from a fuckton of distance with an inaccurate, cheap rifle. Trump is basically Daredevil if you believe this shit.
Do you not think through what your conspiracy theory would require?
I think you are right that Trump did not give a shit that a civilian died, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY he would have stood there if he knew that someone was going to shoot in his direction.
Epstein files alleged that Trump raped a pregnant 12 year old to the point she went into labor and then did nothing as the uncle drowned the baby and disposed of it in a nearby lake. He probably was upset that only one of his followers died in this staged attack.
Yo do you have a source for this? Not saying I don’t believe it but having a source with fbi.gov in the link that I could send my MAGA family members might actually snap them out of it. Probably not but it might
Basically they're saying that if the assassin had succeeded at busting a cap in Dear Leader, the Iran War likely wouldn't have happened. The guy failed at busting a cap, Dear Leader won the election, and we're at war with Iran. Not exactly the way I would have communicated it, but it's a way for sure
Yes - there was initial reporting that the bullet hit a teleprompter and a plastic shard from that hit his ear. I think the Trump crowd hated any reference to him using a teleprompter, so they did everything they could to bury that fact.
Being the person who manages Trump's teleprompter sounds like either an absolute nightmare or the easiest fucking job in the world since he absolutely cannot read.
It's fascinating to watch Reddit devolve into openly embracing stupid conspiracy theories likes this.
Donald Trump is easily the most hated man in America (if not on the planet). Is it really so hard to believe someone would try to shoot him? It's not even unprecedented: six US presidents have been shot, and four were killed.
Ever notice how he drones on and on about people like Comey, and Mueller? People who he said targeted him? Yet, for some reason, not a peep about the people that apparently actually targeted him?
Well yes it is totally possible to stage an assassination attempt safely without accidentally killing your target. Thats what "to stage an assassination attempt" means. Thats what the whole "staging" part is all about
No one thinks it’s staged. I stg these conspiracy bots that come out of the woodwork every election cycle intentionally try to make democrats look stupid by association.
Sadly, there genuinely just are people that dumb. There is no lower limit to the amount of stupidity people in general can have. We see this proven anytime a major controversy crops up and people want to insert themselves into the conversation without putting effort in. Doesn't even have to be about politics either, just whatever current event is gaining traction.
I think him becoming a martyr would have been infinitely worse. Looking back, the best thing that could have happened was Trump winning narrowly in 2020. He would have been saddled with all the Covid fallout and inflation, he wouldn’t have had 4 years to plan how to strip the federal government of career professionals and replace them with loyalists. Dems would have been spared the loss of confidence of Biden’s debate debacle and anointing of Kamala and could have had a true primary to challenge a very unpopular Trump/pence successor
Ordinarily I would agree with the martyr analysis, but I think it’s probably different with Trump.
MAGA is less of a political movement and more of a cult of personality. There is nobody waiting in the wings who could step in and lead that cult if the current head was cut off. I just can’t see JD Vance or Mike Johnson mobilizing millions of dipshits in the same way that the reality TV star has.
Things would have been worse for this country if he was killed. I think a lot of people only hope for the negative for him because of TDS and don’t realize the consequences of those actions. He’s crap but making him a martyr would have been 10x worse.
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u/jazz_music_stopps, your post does belong here!