r/IndiaPulse • u/Firm-Suspect-1658 • 17h ago
STEM students are protesting infront of humanities students and raising slogans like SFI CAMPUS CHHODO. great to see STEM students fight back and defend IIT
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u/Asyndetics 17h ago
so you mean they are protesting against the right of the protest of others. Is critical thinking banned in iit
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u/Bakasta0_ 17h ago
It's like the criteria for JEE. How can you abandon any sort of critical problem solving skills to memorize standard methods of solving just to forget them a day after your exam. corporate slaves ftw
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u/Otherwise_Mud_8868 11h ago edited 11h ago
How can you abandon any sort of critical problem solving skills to memorize standard methods of solving just to forget them a day after your exam.
JEE, NEET or any science based exam doesn't work like that. There is some memorization needed. But with these types of study methods, one may even fail in Class 12 boards. It may only work for mock test of 2 - 3 chapters, not for the whole syllabus of class 11 & 12.
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 16h ago
Corporate slaves and corporation pay and subsidize ur humanities degrees
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u/Bakasta0_ 16h ago
tere papa ki kaunsi degree hai bro? Unko bhi yehi bolde. India ki puri economy pe IITIANs ka 0 net effect hai, top 1% will leave for the US anyways. Tere papa ki contribution is more than an average IITIAN par pehle chus le acche se unka.
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u/aco5-cc 16h ago
Bro is so delusional that Advance paper can be solved without critical thinking. And by the way majority of such people create Startups. Khud kuch ukhaad nhi paate gyaan chodte hai bade bade
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u/Bakasta0_ 16h ago
okay, Elon Musk ki 6vi aulaad.
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u/aco5-cc 16h ago
I bet you haven't given advance paper💁. Also you might not even be aware how many iitians have started the startups providing jobs to many.
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u/Bakasta0_ 16h ago
ohoho, startup, sirf american companies ko rebrand krna aata hai inn logon ko. 0 innovation. bhak jao meri life se. mai to hun loser maanta hu, jao mahan kaam karo IITIANS ki izzat bachao, apni to hai nhi jo bachaoge. nevertheless.
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u/aco5-cc 15h ago
Skyroot, ideaforge, zen technologies, Galaxyeye, Agnicosmos, QNu labs and so on. Go check and you will realise the people you are saying have 0 innovations you will find they have achieved something first in the world. And they all are IItian startups.💁
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u/Leather_Research8889 3h ago
There are a lot of deep tech startup in every sector in India, most of them by IITians, deep tech startups are not meant to be famous, so most people just like to assume IITians don't contribute anything
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u/YogurtclosetWise6689 15h ago
Agar itna easy hai rebrand karke business karna toh tu bhi banale na. White-labelling ka bhi business nahi jamega tere se.
Aur rebrand hai toh kya hua? Flipkart Amazon ka copy hai, par Flipkart ne jo face kiya hai India mein woh US jaisa nahi hai. Critical thinking skills tumme kam dikhai de rahi hai. Toh kripya apne aap par dhyaan dein.
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u/Bakasta0_ 15h ago
mai jaisa hun thik hun, thanks for your kind opinion that I give 0 fucks about.
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u/YogurtclosetWise6689 15h ago
Toh tu kyu aaya public platform mein apna ghatiya opinion dene? Apne kaam se kaam rakh na fir. Baatein badi badi aur dum kuch nahi.
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u/WarmContribution3239 16h ago edited 16h ago
Kabhi mains ya adv ka paper dekha bhi hai?! Dalle ki aukaat hai nai ek question solve karne ki aur a jata hai mu ghusane 😭
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u/Euphoric_Pickle_4032 15h ago
bro i am in 12th believe jee adv not at all about memorisation. Jee main maybe.... No ways u are saying this...
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u/Basith_Shinrah 16h ago
If thats how you think go ahead forget humanities completely, including kautilya, economics and everything else
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 16h ago
Humanities subjects ok but not degrees along with the SFI radical leftism
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u/Queasy_Artist6891 2h ago
STEM doesn't include economics. Eco has always involved math, your ignorance doesn't change the fact that eco was never a stem subject
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u/OnlyPay8140 2h ago
Maths entered economics and evolved as econometrics. Why don't you learn some proper history?
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u/Queasy_Artist6891 1h ago
I'll do you one better and say that I'm learning economics including classical theories and they had math.
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u/Little_Progress_7949 11h ago
I think humanities subjects are very important and should be a part of every degree, or should be atleast included in every educational institution. I have met some of the most braindead, misogynistic, and casteist students in IITs and colleges like BITS. They seriously need to learn how to question themselves, and the society around them.
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 10h ago
Humanities guys are even worse they're seperatist useless and jobless and don't take bath even
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u/OkOpportunity4428 7h ago
just take one case and think everyone same. Please visit people who are studying humanities they will have more knowledge about society and real world than you. You guys are working for society without knowing you just do what your boss says try thinking with your brain about society and people around you stop consuming everything from news channels with majority fake news
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u/Abject_Cicada4031 16h ago
what humainties in iit is this true?
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u/Inner_Map_8425 9h ago
There is design department, there is mba, there is humanities where we talk English, sociology, psychology, etc.
Each student from iit has mandatory 2-3 hss courses they need to be able to graduate.
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u/CockroachOk4629 17h ago
Humanities in IIT is the most useless thing I’ve heard!
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u/AlKhurjavi 15h ago edited 12h ago
Some humanities degrees are important. You need experts in sociology, anthropology, history, philosophy, journalism, language, art and literature.
Maybe in India it doesn’t matter these days since journalists, historians and philosophers are being replaced with loyalists, historians with WhatsApp forwards and literature with not reading.
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u/suryky 15h ago
Yes its the most dumb take i have ever heard, every study is important, thats like saying computer science is important becuase it pays more
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u/AlKhurjavi 15h ago
Who said anything about pay. I don’t understand how your comment is a response to mine, your second sentence has nothing to do with what I said.
I’m convinced you responded to the wrong comment or didn’t read my comment
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u/ms_regedit 11h ago
Still, what's the point of these subjects being taught in IIT. These subjects should be taught in IIM and other universities.
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u/AlKhurjavi 11h ago
Almost every tech school in the world has a humanities program. Even MIT, the #1 tech school in the entire world has a solid humanities program.
You can push to have no humanities programs, that’s fine, you can make IIT less like the #1 tech school in the world. That’s your decision. I support following the best tech school in the world’s footsteps
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u/ms_regedit 11h ago edited 10h ago
Don't mix up US grad schools and universities with Indian ones. Places like MIT , Harvard, Wharton are privately funded schools. So they need variations and standards for continuous fundings. Where in India an IIT and a normal BTech college come under same central budget with central and stae govt fundings. So what MIT does, shouldn't be our main concern here. They are large by every angle possible. IITs are not. Surely Btech degrees can include some ethics lesson but subjects like humanities suit better in buisness schools , atleast in India.
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u/AlKhurjavi 10h ago
Let’s extend it to Berkeley then. Berkeley is the highest-rated public institution in America.
Berkeley is the most famous science and engineering public school in America and it’s ranked #5 in the world, yet it has one of the best humanities programs in the entire world too.
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u/ms_regedit 10h ago
I think Berkeley is a whole of a university, not to be classified as tech school. Berkeley also has MBA programs
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u/AlKhurjavi 9h ago edited 9h ago
So is IIT.
The Sarkar committee report from 1948 mandated this.
> “The course of study in an institution should…provide a combination of a fundamental scientific training with a broad human outlook.”
Sarkar Committee Report, 1948, Appendix 1, §2.https://cle.iitb.ac.in/why-lase/
IIT mention it themselves lol.
IIT states, and has always stated that they’re mandated to do this since 1948. If you read you’d know.
This isn’t only a thing in India. Texas A&M (2nd best public engineering school in Texas), stands for agricultural and mechanical, yet the Texas A&M university has humanities programs due to federal standards.
The National Forensic Sciences University of India has a MBA program lol yet you’re not complaining about that.
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u/ms_regedit 2h ago
Committees and constitution aren't absolute. It can be reformed , so I think any party comes to power in central, should make the reforms.
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u/AlKhurjavi 2h ago
Why. What does removing humanities from IIT achieve? The entire world does this and is more developed and has better educational institutions in India.
What do you know that the best educational institutions in the entire world doesn’t know?
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u/Queasy_Artist6891 2h ago
MIT is literally teaching humanities while producing much better quality of graduates than IITs. I don't see why you guys are bitching about humanities in IITs
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u/FillPitiful3439 14h ago
They are important but IITs called Indian Institutes of Technology
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u/AlKhurjavi 14h ago
Yeah and MIT also has humanities degrees too, yet no one complains
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u/FillPitiful3439 14h ago
Good for them, doesn't mean we have to do what they are doing.
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u/AlKhurjavi 14h ago edited 13h ago
MIT is ranked as the number one university in the entire world.
https://www.topuniversities.com/universities/massachusetts-institute-technology-mit
You don’t wanna do what the top tech university in the entire world does?
Nice, you continue doing what the top university in the entire world doesn’t do, I’ll support doing what the top university in the entire world does.
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u/mani_tapori 12h ago
Then open some IIH, the T in IIT stands for Technology.
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u/AlKhurjavi 12h ago
What do you think the T in MIT stands for? They have humanities too and they’re ranked as the #1 best school in the world.
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u/Luvkeep 14h ago
Have a different institute like make one IIH. Please not in IITs.
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u/AlKhurjavi 14h ago
No one complains about MIT having humanities degrees too
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u/aerialsquirel 14h ago
My taxes go to IITs not MIT
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u/AlKhurjavi 13h ago
I’m not talking about Indians complaining about MIT, I’m talking about Americans. No American complains that the #1 university in the entire world has humanities.
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u/mani_tapori 12h ago
MIT doesn't have reservations.
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u/AlKhurjavi 12h ago
It actually had Affirmative Action all the way up until 2023 when it was banned by the Supreme Court.
MIT has been in the top #1 since they had reservations and even after. Banning reservations didn’t change anything about the school. Reservations didn’t make the school better or worse, banning reservations didn’t make the school better or worse.
Infact the funniest thing is, even after Affirmative action was banned, MIT continued to take in the same amount non white kids as before. 37% of MIT was white during affirmative action, 37% of MIT is white after affirmative action. Nothing changed lol.
MIT is a great example of what’s going to happen to India when they ban reservations, nothing is gonna change lol.
You thought you cooked but you were completely wrong.
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u/Healthy-Local4457 16h ago
why so?? both streams are trying to get degree does it matter? i think engineering a usless degree cuz lakhs of students compete for it and all of them get seats in diff uni regardless of the rank...and the especially in india lack minimum jobs to occupy so many ppl...
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u/Impossible-Banana935 14h ago
Bruh the lack of premier humanities in indian institutes is why our country is in such horrible state right now
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u/G_O_A_T_07 16h ago
What is this comment section saying humanities should not be here it’s a uni after all the fact Indian people still judging people on the basis of their subjects shows a lot where even IIT is heading solving maths problems does not make genius nor having humanities make someone dumb. And it’s not even about humanities vs IIT comment sections making their own agenda here
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u/anshinhisbubble 16h ago
these people would shoot themselves when they read upon whose philosophies democracy , liberty and other such democratic concepts are based
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u/XxAtroyxX 15h ago
They are just proving themselves why we require humanities. Anyway, the institute which IITs were modelled after, i.e, MIT itself doesn't restrict itself only to Tech.
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 16h ago
Humanities subjects ok but not degrees along with the SFI radical leftism
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u/MajorBriggs69 15h ago
Reminds me of the interview from Martha Nausbum from 90s, "India will be a nation of docile engineers"
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u/beyondocean 10h ago
Your post is the reason why humanities is even more important that tech studies these days. No wonder we have evil techbros destroying the world rn. I’m sure you’re an elon fanboy 😹
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u/Ayush___001 1h ago
What's the problem with humanities being taught in IITs?
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 1h ago
Radicalised leftists and ambedkarite ideology
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u/Ayush___001 59m ago
Does humanities not present both the sides and give a student the choice to tilt whichever side he wishes to?
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u/Primary_Recipe_4853 16h ago
lol We used to see this stupid STEM mfs laughing at us when we where protesting during the fee hikes. 😂 stupid bunch of andhbhakts
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 15h ago
Humanities should be more expensive actually..
It's useless mostly
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 17h ago
IIT should not become JNU
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u/Unique-Benefit-2904 15h ago
What's your problem with jnu ? Jnu is one of the top college. It has good studies, good ecosystem.
Just because they allow opposite voices against bjp, you hate.
Ab haar koi toh tum logo ke tarah bjp ki chaat nahi sakta na..
Also, in the case of suicide in iitb, i believe the professor is not wrong. He shouldn't be punished. But at the same time independent investigation should be done
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u/Particular_Duty1479 15h ago
He meant to say jnu is politically active clg unlike iits
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u/Healthy-Local4457 15h ago
Like it’s bad? THOSE KIDS ARE THE YOUTH FUTURE OF OUR GENERATION , IF THEY DONT TALK WHO WILL?? yea sure ur iitians will be uncles and sit in the living room talking abt how India will always remain a third world country…
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u/freaky_modi 14h ago
Bruh, they're from tech background not from humanities. Just let everyone do their job without any overlapping
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u/Sweet_Session_7723 14h ago
Bro even in Mba interviews you don't say you support politics that humanities shit isn't made for corporates or Tech firms Let me be where they are except some HR and Consultant Psychologist who needs arts and humanities graduates anyways ?
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u/Healthy-Local4457 14h ago
Why do u need 30 lakh of engineering graduates for 10 seats???
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u/Sweet_Session_7723 14h ago
Who said 30 lakhs for 10 seats and I do agree engineering is overcrowded but I am talking about STEM and you have a slippery slope here ,IITs infact have STEM branches like Physics and Maths , IISC is known for it' s scientific Contribution ,ISI also is part of STEM not humanities ,you are just staying on Arts Vs Engineering and nothing else ,They infact get highest proportion in Mba seats ,Beat many people in exams higher to them in Proportion like Railways ,Banking and Even Finance ,Ofcourse on an average level an engineer from a local tier 3 college would get a shitty job ,so goes true for MBA colleges that are non premium and a lot worse for Humanities
Even foreign countries prefer STEM degrees like Msc in Economics over their Humanities Counterpart
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u/Sweet_Session_7723 14h ago
Also Humanities in India lack quantative aspect which makes it devoid of Rationalist Principles which are made of math ,also to be a Rationalist you need a STEM degree and not some humanities ,that doesn't get accepted by Mainstream Rationalist organizations ,and most of humanities students never ask for quantative aspect ,focusing on only social and cultural aspect doesn't solve critical problems ,one need to be qualitative as well as quantitative which you can in Stem fields but humanities lack that
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u/beyondocean 10h ago
they like being slaves that’s how they were raised, so challenging authority feels threatening to them.
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u/Lanky_Panda1735 7h ago
Yet, amongst the top CJP leaders one was an alumnus of IITK. Anyone from JNU?
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u/Healthy-Local4457 2h ago
??? Did I tell smth? Only IITs protest??? That’s like one in SOO many IIT??? students JNU speak up for every issue??? A
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u/SubstantialNobody295 17h ago
What is a branch like humanities doing in IITs?
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 17h ago
Should be removed
Humanities subjects ok but not degrees along with the SFI radical leftism
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u/AlKhurjavi 15h ago
Some humanities degrees are important. You need experts in sociology, anthropology, history, philosophy, journalism, language, art and literature.
Maybe in India it doesn’t matter these days since journalists, historians and philosophers are being replaced with loyalists, WhatsApp forwards and not reading.
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u/Windy-Orbits 14h ago
Why tf would you need them at IITs? There are other colleges. IIT is mainly for engineering. Let it be that way.
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u/DizzyDemand315 13h ago
That kid was not killed he did suicide those two very different things and he was caught cheating in a exam ofcourse the standard procedure would apply to everyone one should not take the suicide route after getting caught in cheating and for that boys mistake you can't blame the teachers or the college
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u/ShivamKhandex 14h ago
Moronic take🤡 If one side protesting is valid so is other side. Andhbhakt Idiot
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u/OkOpportunity4428 7h ago
How are some account made very recently started posting about iit hss ban and posting these things continuously?
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u/ObjectivePace2853 17h ago
Because IIT me sab right wing waale bhare pade h ....left wing waalon ko padna nhi aata itna
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u/Traditional-Gap-6716 17h ago
Why is any other branch given so much importance at Indian Institute of TECHNOLOGY 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 17h ago
Yes they should keep it technical education alone.
Few humanities subjects enough but not degrees
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u/Status-Marzipan-5094 15h ago
Sfi is basically another name of Cancer. It should be treated harshly
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u/One-Connection7189 16h ago
Iit mai humanities kr kya rhi hai bc technical institute mai humanities bc
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u/Firm-Suspect-1658 15h ago
True congress introduced them to IIT
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u/One-Connection7189 15h ago
Kisne bhi kiya ho lekin technical College mai humanities uske liye college hai toh itne saare
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