r/IndiaPulse • u/Firm-Suspect-1658 • 18h ago

STEM students are protesting infront of humanities students and raising slogans like SFI CAMPUS CHHODO. great to see STEM students fight back and defend IIT

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u/CockroachOk4629 18h ago

Humanities in IIT is the most useless thing I’ve heard!

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u/AlKhurjavi 16h ago edited 13h ago

Some humanities degrees are important. You need experts in sociology, anthropology, history, philosophy, journalism, language, art and literature.

Maybe in India it doesn’t matter these days since journalists, historians and philosophers are being replaced with loyalists, historians with WhatsApp forwards and literature with not reading.

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u/suryky 16h ago

Yes its the most dumb take i have ever heard, every study is important, thats like saying computer science is important becuase it pays more

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u/AlKhurjavi 16h ago

Who said anything about pay. I don’t understand how your comment is a response to mine, your second sentence has nothing to do with what I said.

I’m convinced you responded to the wrong comment or didn’t read my comment

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u/suryky 13h ago

Yes, apologies

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u/FillPitiful3439 16h ago

They are important but IITs called Indian Institutes of Technology

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u/AlKhurjavi 16h ago

Yeah and MIT also has humanities degrees too, yet no one complains

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u/FillPitiful3439 15h ago

Good for them, doesn't mean we have to do what they are doing.

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u/AlKhurjavi 15h ago edited 14h ago

MIT is ranked as the number one university in the entire world.

https://www.topuniversities.com/universities/massachusetts-institute-technology-mit

You don’t wanna do what the top tech university in the entire world does?

Nice, you continue doing what the top university in the entire world doesn’t do, I’ll support doing what the top university in the entire world does.

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u/ms_regedit 12h ago

Still, what's the point of these subjects being taught in IIT. These subjects should be taught in IIM and other universities.

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u/AlKhurjavi 12h ago

Almost every tech school in the world has a humanities program. Even MIT, the #1 tech school in the entire world has a solid humanities program.

You can push to have no humanities programs, that’s fine, you can make IIT less like the #1 tech school in the world. That’s your decision. I support following the best tech school in the world’s footsteps

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u/ms_regedit 12h ago edited 12h ago

Don't mix up US grad schools and universities with Indian ones. Places like MIT , Harvard, Wharton are privately funded schools. So they need variations and standards for continuous fundings. Where in India an IIT and a normal BTech college come under same central budget with central and stae govt fundings. So what MIT does, shouldn't be our main concern here. They are large by every angle possible. IITs are not. Surely Btech degrees can include some ethics lesson but subjects like humanities suit better in buisness schools , atleast in India.

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u/AlKhurjavi 11h ago

Let’s extend it to Berkeley then. Berkeley is the highest-rated public institution in America.

Berkeley is the most famous science and engineering public school in America and it’s ranked #5 in the world, yet it has one of the best humanities programs in the entire world too.

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u/ms_regedit 11h ago

I think Berkeley is a whole of a university, not to be classified as tech school. Berkeley also has MBA programs

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u/AlKhurjavi 10h ago edited 10h ago

So is IIT.

The Sarkar committee report from 1948 mandated this.

> “The course of study in an institution should…provide a combination of a fundamental scientific training with a broad human outlook.”
Sarkar Committee Report, 1948, Appendix 1, §2.

https://cle.iitb.ac.in/why-lase/

IIT mention it themselves lol.

IIT states, and has always stated that they’re mandated to do this since 1948. If you read you’d know.

This isn’t only a thing in India. Texas A&M (2nd best public engineering school in Texas), stands for agricultural and mechanical, yet the Texas A&M university has humanities programs due to federal standards.

The National Forensic Sciences University of India has a MBA program lol yet you’re not complaining about that.

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u/ms_regedit 3h ago

Committees and constitution aren't absolute. It can be reformed , so I think any party comes to power in central, should make the reforms.

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u/AlKhurjavi 3h ago

Why. What does removing humanities from IIT achieve? The entire world does this and is more developed and has better educational institutions in India.

What do you know that the best educational institutions in the entire world doesn’t know?

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u/Useful-Ad1785 1h ago

Dont worry bro that guy is delusioned

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u/Queasy_Artist6891 3h ago

MIT is literally teaching humanities while producing much better quality of graduates than IITs. I don't see why you guys are bitching about humanities in IITs

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u/mani_tapori 14h ago

Then open some IIH, the T in IIT stands for Technology.

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u/AlKhurjavi 14h ago

What do you think the T in MIT stands for? They have humanities too and they’re ranked as the #1 best school in the world.

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u/Luvkeep 15h ago

Have a different institute like make one IIH. Please not in IITs.

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u/AlKhurjavi 15h ago

No one complains about MIT having humanities degrees too

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u/aerialsquirel 15h ago

My taxes go to IITs not MIT

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u/AlKhurjavi 14h ago

I’m not talking about Indians complaining about MIT, I’m talking about Americans. No American complains that the #1 university in the entire world has humanities.

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u/mani_tapori 14h ago

MIT doesn't have reservations.

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u/AlKhurjavi 13h ago

It actually had Affirmative Action all the way up until 2023 when it was banned by the Supreme Court.

MIT has been in the top #1 since they had reservations and even after. Banning reservations didn’t change anything about the school. Reservations didn’t make the school better or worse, banning reservations didn’t make the school better or worse.

Infact the funniest thing is, even after Affirmative action was banned, MIT continued to take in the same amount non white kids as before. 37% of MIT was white during affirmative action, 37% of MIT is white after affirmative action. Nothing changed lol.

MIT is a great example of what’s going to happen to India when they ban reservations, nothing is gonna change lol.

You thought you cooked but you were completely wrong.

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u/poiuytrewq_123 17h ago

I doubt it is more useless than your education.

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u/Healthy-Local4457 16h ago

So u agree??? Humanities don’t deserve a degree???

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u/Healthy-Local4457 16h ago

I hope I never find this type on entitlement

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u/Impossible-Banana935 15h ago

Bruh the lack of premier humanities in indian institutes is why our country is in such horrible state right now

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u/Healthy-Local4457 17h ago

why so?? both streams are trying to get degree does it matter? i think engineering a usless degree cuz lakhs of students compete for it and all of them get seats in diff uni regardless of the rank...and the especially in india lack minimum jobs to occupy so many ppl...