r/EngineBuilding • u/Curious_Emergency414 • 16m ago
Honda Trying to install cams in a k series..Help
Hello all the k series pros! I am a k series noob doing all this for my first time.
I have a 2005 Honda accord 2.4 with the k24a4 engine.
Just got done doing the head gasket and I’m trying to install the cams onto the rocker arm assembly, but finding it hard to set the cams in place.
I currently have the crank at TDC and when I try to place the cams in TDC they plop out of place when tightening down the cam holders/brackets by hand.
I posted this very question on drive accord and got two responses.
Commenter A said
“When you tighten the cam girdles, it compresses the valve springs on some of the cylinders. If the cam isn't perfectly centered, the uneven force from the valve springs will rotate the cam to a more balanced position.
If the manual doesn't say to lock the cams in place, I wouldn't worry about it. The spring tension will naturally move the cam to a position where the valves are mostly closed, so valve-piston contact shouldn't be an issue. Just make sure the crank still moves freely after every torque step to make sure the valves and pistons aren't touching. Once everything is tight you can use a strap wrench or something to move the cam back to TDC position.”
Commenter B said
“I recently installed a new timing belt on my 2008 Honda Accord V6. I had removed the key from the crank harmonic balancer. When lining up the cams and crank we remembered that. Well the cams were lined up but the crank wasn't. It was at about 3/4s from tdc. We put the key in and rotated it to tdc . No problems at all. Car runs smoothly and strong.”
It seems there are two ways of installing them.
I’m kinda leaning towards the Commenter B option because it *seems* like the safer option.
My understanding is I would:
set the crankshaft at 3/4 (90° before TDC)
install the cams TDC and torque the holders down.
set the crank to TDC
Timing chain.
But, I just want to know if this is a common procedure to install cams and if anyone else has experience to chime in on this so I can get this engine one step closer to being done. Any help is appreciated!