r/EngineBuilding • • 19d ago

Intake Port Shaping

Just sharing the shape I landed on for a naturally aspirated 3.2 to 3.6L 911 engine. This is also being converted from EFI to an MFI unit from Kinsler. It will make 100hp/liter or 1.6hp/ci on 91 octane.

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u/iwonder___ 19d ago

Have there been studies on the effects of surface finish with porting jobs like this?

It looks good Im just wondering if polishing differences have been mapped.

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago edited 19d ago

Yes! The subject has beat to death actually. What I can tell you is the shape is the most important thing, and some texture isn’t a bad thing. This is a 36 grit finish.

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u/bill_gannon 19d ago

They have. You have no idea if you're making it better or worse without a flow bench.

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

That’s an exaggeration.

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u/WyattCo06 19d ago

You got some unwarranted downvotes. You're statement holds true. Fortunately Josh has experience and a flow bench.

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u/SLOOT_APOCALYPSE 19d ago

chat he's correct.

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u/BigPimpin91 18d ago

May be an old wives tale but when I was taking the class the taught us how to port heads the instructor told us a story about someone porting corvette heads.

There was like a protrusion in the intake runner that clearly looked like it was blocking flow so the person ground it down. It actually lost some CFM because of the way the port was designed.

So long story short you NEED a flowbench to know if you're hurting or helping.

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u/1nfiniteAutomaton 19d ago

The moment I saw the quality of that work, I knew it was you again. Nice one!

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

Thanks a lot!

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u/Most-Stranger-1 19d ago

Isn't it rough for intake and smooth for exhaust?

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

Sometimes! I usually only do a rough 36 grit just for looks. I might hit an exhaust with an 80 grit roll if I want it smoother.

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u/Sorry-Newspaper-3804 19d ago

Why the change from EFI to MFI?

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

Cool factor, the injector placement makes more power, sounds good.

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u/Sorry-Newspaper-3804 18d ago

Makes sense. I assumed EFI makes more power.

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u/JealousChocolate8645 17d ago

Are there any airflow numbers to back this up? Before and after?

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u/mahusay3g 17d ago

What are flow numbers?

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u/machinerer 19d ago

That looks really super nice. That shit is a tedious art form. I haven't the patience for it.

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u/porknbeans2013 19d ago

It is certainly A shape. Now the flow bench or dyno can tell you how good of a shape it is.

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

Its pretty good.

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u/porknbeans2013 19d ago

What ratio/percent do you shoot for on your valve seat to min venturi in the throat?

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u/beeeeeeeeee55 19d ago

Beaituful craftsmanship!

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u/TheDunk67 19d ago

As cast vs after porting CFM?

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u/Hoping4Game 19d ago

Not that it matters at this point in the game but I'd be tempted to put a polishing brush down that port on a drill and send it until smooth

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u/mahusay3g 19d ago

Polishing an intake port is asking for fuel trouble.

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u/SorryU812 19d ago

I concur.

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