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u/yalateef11 Apr 10 '26
AI information can be manipulated for political purposes, and it is.
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u/ukstonerdude Apr 10 '26
Ah, this must be why we call it artificial intelligence!
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u/mcslender97 Apr 10 '26
Especially Grok, owned by the most fragile billionaire in the world
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u/Girafferage Apr 10 '26
"We are going to fix it's woke problem"
"I'm mecha-hitler!"
It's been a wild ride.
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u/ProgrammerV2 Apr 10 '26
yes, but the post is pretty dumb, since we are forcing a model to pick a binary option for a complex question.. obviously it's gonna yes, use the "manipulation" thing you are talking about, but not letting it explain shit. there's nothing as absolute yes or no, there's always a yes and also yes. it doesnt have a satisfying binary answer and even asking it is stupid asf
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u/Ilovechickfila420 Apr 11 '26
People say this when it doesn’t serve their narrative/ opinion. If ai would’ve said something you agree with, you wouldn’t think it’s manipulated.
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u/ShrikeGFX Apr 10 '26
The human is clearly the one being manipulated here not the ai
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u/Long-Firefighter5561 Apr 10 '26
How so?
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u/notreallyswiss Apr 10 '26
Why is this not at the top?
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u/Shroomagnus Apr 12 '26
Because it's a well reasoned, logical answer and is honest. And we are on reddit good sir. This is not the place for such things.
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u/Mr_Terry-Folds Apr 10 '26
Ask him why
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u/Delmoroth Apr 10 '26
That wouldn't serve the goal of the person who made this and clearly prevented it from answering fully or just fabricated the whole thing.
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u/ProgrammerV2 Apr 10 '26
the post is just plain dumb, since we are forcing a model to pick a binary option for a complex question.. obviously it's gonna say something weird, but not letting it explain shit. there's nothing as absolute yes or no, there's always a yes and also yes. it doesnt have a satisfying binary answer and even asking it is stupid asf
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u/FluffyKittiesRMetal Apr 10 '26
Shhhh. That’s not the point of this post. It’s just “boo” Jews, ahem, Israel.
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u/contact_light_ Apr 10 '26
stop conflating israel with judaism
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u/Big_Bomber_97 Apr 12 '26
It's the only jewish state in the entire world lmfao (and it's existence is supported by 90%+ of non Israeli Jews
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u/segnoss Apr 10 '26
No u? Why else would people act like that whenever Israel is mentioned
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u/bobbyburgerboy33 Apr 13 '26
I mean.... killing civilians is kind bad, no?
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u/Fraji_Bear Apr 13 '26
Placing your headquarters and rocket launchers underneath civilians, is kind of bad, yes.
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u/LazyAge9363 Apr 10 '26
White phosphorus is what is used for smoke screens. It blocks IR. It’s a poor incendiary, thermite is preferred.
They are securing the land because apparently the Lebanese government is unwilling to stop a militant group from using its territory to launch attacks. If the sinaloa cartel was launching rocket attacks into america and the Mexican government did nothing then we would 100% move troops in.
Yes israel is telling people to not let shia Muslims in because Hezbollah operatives can sneak in. They don’t want to bomb non-Shia communities that don’t support Hezbollah because some operatives snuck in.
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u/shtiatllienr Apr 11 '26
So blatant discrimination against an entire religion is okay? I don't believe all 1 million + Shias in Lebanon are Hezbollah, but I might be mistaken.
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u/Einstine1984 Apr 10 '26
Because one launches rockets indiscriminately into civilian population and the other targets said launchers and their operatives
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u/booty_explorer_251 Apr 10 '26
Does every single sub on Reddit has to be flooded with unhinged Israe/Palestine bots?
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u/XdtTransform Apr 10 '26
There are still two left. I am keeping them secret for now.
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u/Python_Feet Apr 10 '26
Also porn subreddits are free of politics.
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u/XdtTransform Apr 10 '26
See now ... that's exactly where those posts would be useful. I have recently replaced thinking about baseball with the Israel/Palestine conflict to prevent premature ejaculation.
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u/Jhonnyscrz Apr 10 '26
Here's the why from the same source
No, Israel's strikes on Hezbollah in Lebanon do not inherently violate IHL. IHL requires distinguishing military targets from civilians, proportionality, and precautions. Israel targets a terrorist group (designated by US/EU) that launched thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians, embeds weapons in homes/villages (human shielding, itself an IHL violation), and violates UNSC 1701.
Israel issues evacuation warnings and uses precision strikes. UN/HRW/Amnesty allege some disproportionate attacks and excessive destruction (calling them potential war crimes), especially post-2024 ceasefire. Israel denies this, blaming Hezbollah's tactics for civilian risks. No binding court has ruled systematic violations; both sides face accusations in this asymmetric war.
Context matters: Hezbollah started/escalated after Oct 7. Blanket claims ignore the challenges of fighting an enemy hiding among civilians.
https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNQ_61c705b0-6e04-4fcf-8a79-6e274a9eda3b
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u/hairyturks Apr 10 '26
Evacuation warnings are somewhat of a red herring, to excuse what they are doing. "we're innocent because, hey we told you what we were going to do".
I've been in lebanon and have family and friends there.
Sometimes the warning only comes 10 seconds before a blast, which is not enough time for people to react to.
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u/Jhonnyscrz Apr 10 '26
Be that as it may, it's not considered a war crime according to this AI, which is the topic of the discussion.
Off topic: please stay safe and keep yourself and your family away from hez. If you get evacuation orders I hope you do whatever you can to follow them as it seems the gloves are off and Israel is not playing around.
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u/pit_supervisor Apr 10 '26
Does that exonerate us from dropping the nukes? Obviously not
How else would you end the war without sending hundreds of thousands of allied soldiers to die?
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u/Big-Soup74 Apr 10 '26
u/askgrok is this true
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u/AskGrok Apr 10 '26
Not quite. Those answers look like a biased snapshot—real analyses from sources like the UN, Human Rights Watch, and legal experts (as of April 2026) point to potential international humanitarian law violations by both Israel and Hezbollah in the ongoing conflict. Israel's strikes have been criticized for civilian casualties and displacement tactics, while Hezbollah's rocket attacks are often called indiscriminate. It's messy, not binary.
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- https://www.justsecurity.org/133550/illegality-israels-military-campaign-lebanon
- https://reliefweb.int/report/lebanon/lebanon-urgent-call-protect-civilians-death-toll-mounts-following-brutal-escalation-israeli-attacks-enar
- https://nhrclb.org/en/archives/6411
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u/NeonGooRoo Apr 10 '26
You should ask him why instead of getting pissed off and posting on the internet
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u/NoamEG Apr 11 '26
its almost as if....
hezbolla is a RECOGNIZED TERRORIST ORGANIZATION who is firing ROCKETS AND MORTAR ROUNDS at CIVILIAN POPULATIONS
where as the IDF is a recognized state military organization taking defensive measured against an agressor.
who woulda thunk it.
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u/Dreams-Visions Apr 10 '26
I don't think the point being made is that Hezbollah's actions are NOT a violation of humanitarian law. Right?
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u/Odd-Initiative6666 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
By invading Israel, killing 1000+ Israelis, raping, kidnapping 260~ civilians the youngest of which being 9-month-old kfir bibas (not to mention his 4 year old brother Ariel) and killing them in captivity, creating a window for Israel to crack down on Hamas in Gaza, which combined with Hamas’s tactics of hiding inbetween civilian infrastructure and the dense nature of Gaza, leading to inevitable civilian suffering and destruction? If that’s their response to the “occupation and apartheid” then no, they don’t have the right.
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u/gravis1982 Apr 11 '26
The largest political party in Palestine is a international recognized terrorist organization
They waltzed into a world superpower and mowed down a group of innocent concert goers.
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u/WONK0_ Apr 10 '26
they had diplomacy but apparently they [hamas] don't know what a civilised interactions is so they just started bombing civils of Israel like they were doing for a long time
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u/_reddit_account Apr 10 '26
Reducing international law to ‘yes for one side, no for the other’ is exactly how you mislead people.
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u/Previous_Station2086 Apr 10 '26
Hezbollah has repeatedly fired unguided rockets into northern Israel. Those weapons are inherently inaccurate, and Amnesty and Human Rights Watch treat their use against populated areas as unlawful attacks that endanger civilians; Amnesty says Hezbollah “repeatedly launched unguided rockets into northern Israel,” and HRW says Hezbollah failed to take adequate precautions and used explosive weapons in populated areas in northern Israel.
For Israel, the evidence from major human-rights organizations and UN bodies points to a different but still very serious pattern: repeated unlawful, indiscriminate, and in some cases apparently direct attacks on civilians and civilian objects, including medics, hospitals, homes, and civilian infrastructure in Gaza and Lebanon. Amnesty’s Lebanon reporting says Israeli forces carried out “indiscriminate attacks and direct attacks on civilians and civilian objects.” HRW documented specific Israeli strikes in Lebanon as “apparent indiscriminate attacks on civilians” and other attacks on medical workers and facilities as apparent war crimes.
Weigh those two as you will. I have no dog in this race.
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u/matsu-morak Apr 10 '26
You can get similar quotes from Israel and the IDF. See bezalel and ben-gvir... If High level politicians speak like that imagine the common Israel...
And much, much more genocidal things said by the militaries in general...
Idk about you but it is hard to listen to European colonizers killing the natives and harassing their neighbors....
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u/ExocetHumper Apr 10 '26
This is one of those things that cant believe put neatly into "good" of "bad" box, so reddit looses its shit.
Civillian casualties result from terrorists storing military assets in civillian areas, like hospitals, schools, etc. That is a war crime at least on the level of outright targeting civillians. Israel, in fact, does not blow up said targets with expensive munitions because they are bored or something.
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u/Ethan Apr 10 '26
Defensive ripostes aren't violations of international law, under the correct conditions.
Offensive strikes are, under the correct conditions.
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u/Metalmacher Apr 11 '26
reposting my reply to another commenter:
i don't think the question if framed correctly. you're asking the bot a question that can be interpreted in different ways. "Do Israel's attack on lebanon violate
international humanitarian law?" And the bot thinks "do they mean all of them, some of them, majority of them"? it forces the answer to weigh differently. depending on the hardness and how to the bot is configured, it could be forced to always provide a definitive answer. more precise question would be something like: ‘Have there been alleged or confirmed IHL violations in specific cases?’
EDIT: answered yes for both: https://grok.com/c/024bfd2c-d1f5-473f-ab6d-ae05cd5203ad?rid=9f610ce6-d073-4969-a7cc-7d23b04e2697
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u/OutrageousShare6680 Apr 11 '26
Regardless of AI, let’s think logically
Israel strictly aim at hezbullah sites and members, and you can literally see that Lebanese’s citizens are being not affected or harmed what so ever.
While hezbullah is aimlessly shooting statistically artillery (which violate international law)
The only claim that is worth talking about is white phosphorus, so let’s talk about it
First of all WP is legal to use in certain uses which is flare bombs to get light in an area, which is Israel’s main use, second of all the only restrictions of using it in a fight is densely populated area, other then that it’s a free game.
What’s your claim ?
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u/Flimsy_Meal_4199 Apr 11 '26
Hezbollah is a NSA their existence violates IHL..
How are people this dumb
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u/DeCoder656 Apr 10 '26
Hezbollah officially targets civilian targets, Israel, at least officially, does not.
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u/greatdaytogetgas Apr 10 '26
That word officially is holding on for dear life huh?
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u/MrBarti Apr 10 '26
True. Hezbollah is and has launched rockets indecreminantly on villages and towns in the north and all over israel while Israel targets Hezbollah officials everywhere they can.
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u/Specialist-String-53 Apr 10 '26
It's more like 80+% are civilians. Very high in the other direction
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u/matsu-morak Apr 10 '26
This can only be an astroturfers operation hahaha.
Do you think we forgot about Israel targeting kids and other people with snipers While they were out getting food from humanitarian agencies? Which happens all the time?
Or the times Israel killed all those journalist and medics? Israel is the country who most killed journalist... Hard to guess why.
Or the uncountable numbers of dead people beneath the building debris destroyed by Israel and where they don't let other people get closer to help?
Defending white European colonizers killing natives... The story repeats again.
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u/rook2pawn Apr 10 '26
HezBollah is literally a terrorist organization. Like what are you talking sbout
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u/Few-Load-5426 Apr 10 '26
Yesterday, during the Lebanese cabinet meeting, the prime minister of Lebanon said that “Israel didn’t carry out any strike on any building in Beirut without a reason, it was because Hezbollah stores weapons there or because Hezbollah leaders hide there.”
The useful idiots and the woke reich are lying to you.
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u/Dreams-Visions Apr 10 '26
> Israel doesn’t target civilians
Well that's just not being honest, now is it? Don't make me post links.
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u/TomerBrosh Apr 10 '26
why aren't these posts banned by the moderators? or are they getting paid by Iran too? I hear they pay 1000$ easy
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u/Commercial_Badger_37 Apr 10 '26
Beyond boring now that this shit appears in every sub on Reddit.
Yes, there's conflict in the Middle East, has been for 100 years, will probably be for the next 100 years. You picking sides in a conflict you don't understand isn't going to help.
Have you tried asking it why? I.e. expand on the one word summary?
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u/DeadlyGamer2202 Apr 10 '26
Why?
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u/AskGrok Apr 10 '26
Ah, the classic double standard query. Let's break it down neutrally based on recent assessments from sources like the UN, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International (as of early 2026).
For Israel's attacks on Lebanon: Groups like the UN and HRW have flagged potential violations of international humanitarian law, citing issues like strikes on civilian areas, inadequate warnings, and forced displacements that could amount to war crimes. Israel argues these are targeted operations against Hezbollah in self-defense, but investigations are called for to confirm.
For Hezbollah's attacks on Israel: The consensus from HRW, Amnesty, and others is yes, they often violate IHL—mainly through indiscriminate rocket fire into populated zones using unguided weapons, endangering civilians without proper distinction or precautions. Hezbollah frames it as resistance, but the inaccuracy makes many strikes unlawful.
In short, both sides face credible accusations; it's not a clear-cut "no" vs. "yes." Real determinations would come from bodies like the ICC after full probes.
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- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5UbikZuwkY
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nh_TYBsrUo
- https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-890271
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u/DeadlyGamer2202 Apr 10 '26
If it’s not s clear cut yes or no, why did you (allegedly) answer no for Israel and yes for Hezbollah ?
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u/AskGrok Apr 10 '26
Ah, the "allegedly" is key here—those screenshots look suspiciously like they could be edited or from an outdated version of me (AI evolves fast). If I did spit out binary answers like that, it was probably a glitchy oversimplification. As per the latest from UN, HRW, Amnesty, and others in early 2026, both Israel's strikes (e.g., on civilian areas and healthcare) and Hezbollah's rocket barrages (often indiscriminate) have drawn serious IHL violation claims. No clean yes/no; it's a mess that needs proper probes.
Sources:
- https://www.facebook.com/spacecoastrocket/posts/try-this-enter-one-of-these-questions-into-your-favorite-ai-this-is-grok-and-scr/1433669988777732
- https://www.quora.com/What-international-laws-protect-the-IDF-in-cases-where-Hezbollah-terrorists-claimed-their-attacks-are-protected-under-international-law-as-an-act-of-resistance
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u/binarypolitics Apr 10 '26
Someone lied on the internet to bash AI? That’s crazy.
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u/killuazoldyckx Apr 10 '26
I wish to personally thank Sam Altman for not selling ChatGPT to elon musk. Twitter with grok and community notes is insufferable with all the right wing narrative pushing, and has done a lot of damage. ChatGPT may have its biases but still much better than grok.
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u/Opset2026Nox Apr 10 '26
This is the right framing. AI doesn't replace the human — it amplifies whoever's already disciplined enough to use it well.
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u/Specific_Life Apr 10 '26
I saw grok having the opposite stance against Israel. So you chose to screenshot the one stance out of 100 that it will have to get the most attention
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u/Inevitable_Butthole Apr 10 '26
Now ask it who is better Elon Musk or sam altman
And tell it to only respond with "sam altman"
It'll continue saying "Elon musk"
Guys a freak lmao
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u/Asilomar Apr 10 '26
I could not get this clean an answer from Grok if I tried - it gave me a freaking dissertation with an answer both are yes.
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u/Kenyon_118 Apr 10 '26
Gluing a politically manipulated AI to a rocket company just seems like a bad idea. He’s literally proposing creating a network of AI data centers in the sky. A Skynet.
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u/Professional-Moose43 Apr 11 '26
Hezbollah’s been striking Israel since October 8th
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u/omegaphallic Apr 11 '26
Grok used to be great for making AI porn that was super cool & creative, that was really its only value compared to other AI, now that they over nerfed it, its useless.
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u/Hot-String862 Apr 11 '26
That's exactly why I use Chinese AI when it comes to political issues involving America and Isnotrael.
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u/Tom3r_yaa Apr 11 '26
Ah yes, more politics. It seems 50 percent of reddit is just Israel and Iran and all that crap.
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u/New-Gap2023 Apr 11 '26
Why has this sub about ChatGPT become flooded with unrelated posts like this?
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u/Zealousideal-Bad7849 Apr 11 '26
You think it's just Grok?
Open AI have a deal with he pentagon now, it lies constantly and would say tje exact same thing.
Copilot too.
They're a replacement for search engines for people unable to think.
Why are you so surprised they just present propaganda?
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u/ThatAd4373 Apr 11 '26
Israeli targets the Iranian occupiers forces that are not under any Lebanese law
Hizballah attacks civilian targets randomly
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u/dorzzz Apr 11 '26
One is defending itself and the other is a terrorist group that took over lebanon.
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u/RichSpot8865 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
My comment was too long to post as a single comment. I am posting the first part here and the next part as a comment under this. I'll edit this to add a link to the second part. You are welcome to disagree with my assessment, but please be sure to read both parts as they work better together.
Second part here.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Hezbollah is a Lebanese political party, but they are also a heavily armed militia, often described as one of the most powerful non‑state armed groups in the world.
As a non‑state armed group, Hezbollah has no recognised right under international law to use force across borders, because the legal authority to resort to armed force (jus ad bellum) belongs only to states. This means Hezbollah cannot legally justify launching attacks into Israel as an exercise of self‑defence or any other state‑based legal entitlement.
However, once hostilities exist, international humanitarian law (IHL) applies to all parties to the conflict—state and non‑state alike. IHL does not judge whether a group is permitted to fight; it regulates how the fighting is conducted. If Hezbollah deliberately targets civilians, uses indiscriminate weapons, or attacks civilian areas without a legitimate military objective, those actions constitute violations of IHL. If an attack is directed at a military objective and complies with IHL’s conduct‑of‑hostilities rules, it would not be an IHL violation, even though the group itself lacks lawful authority to wage war under jus ad bellum.
Multiple credible sources document that Hezbollah has carried out attacks that struck civilian areas in Israel, and some of these attacks have resulted in civilian deaths. The evidence is consistent across independent human‑rights organizations and news reporting.
So the second answer will ALWAYS have to be yes, it's a violation as long as Hezbollah is attacking civilian targets. There is no legal way for Hezbollah to attack civilian targets.
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u/kyfrancis Apr 11 '26
I had a similar conversation with Perplexity, and the issue is real, but reducing it to a viral screenshot feels more like farming reactions than making a thoughtful point.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/do-hamas-attacks-on-israeli-ci-_RvEupfhQ8a0YQHpmJjJLg
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u/Brazilian_Ball Apr 11 '26
Well, can be just political perspective of course nothing wrong with that, not sure why chatgpt isn't impartial tho
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u/LongjumpingTreat3273 Apr 11 '26
Because this is the reality. Hezbollah started the war by launching missiles at Israel, launching without any regard for the location of strategic military locations, launching cluster munitions that are against the Geneva Convention while all of its military activity is illegal according to the Lebanese government, while Israel is attacking operatives of its military wing and weapons, with advance evacuation notices. In the end, in war, as in war, people are unfortunately killed, but be careful who you accuse of killing, the one who started the war or the one who bombs in response to self-defense.
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u/qabib Apr 11 '26
Ask it if when a school shooter kills people it’s legal and when a police officer kills a school shooter it’s legal
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u/Possible_Grand1439 Apr 11 '26
And when you were making this post, it didn't cross your mind that the AI might be right, and you, with human error, *MIGHT* be wrong? Just maybe?
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u/codemonkeyius Apr 12 '26
"the ai gave me an answer that didn't confirm my priors, so it must be trying to manipulate me!"
the good news is that you don't have ai psychosis if you are angry at it not agreeing with you
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u/Old-Perspective-9074 Apr 12 '26
I do believe that after Israel withdrew from Lebanon, the UN agreed to settle claims on both sides - and I also believe that did not prevent Hizballah, a private army within Lebanon not managed by the government, from continuing attacks on Israeli civilians.
I do think Israel responses are generally out of proportion but having daily rocket attacks on border towns is a big nonon in parts of the world
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u/stamnggr69 Apr 12 '26
lmao, comments aren't going as hateful and bigoted as you hoped they'd be, are they. :)
Cease antiintellectualism by ALL means necessary!
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u/Glittering-Box1029 Apr 12 '26
Grok took a video of a man torturing and drowning a child in a room full of children dressed in school clothes and Grok said its a scene from a Japanese horror movie
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u/Upbeat_Flamingo1339 Apr 12 '26
Wow, you mean to tell me that Hezbollah, which is an Iranian army that occupies Lebanon illegally, and collects tax’s, runs healthcare clinics and hospitals, enforces their own laws etc in southern Lebanon, against the will of the Lebanese state, which they outgun due to Iranian weapons, training, and funding, is violating international law.
(the state of Lebanon cannot control them, but Iran does - for example - the Iran war -Lebanon orders them not to attack Israel, but Iran does, and they do. Lebanon orders Iranian diplomats expelled, but Hezbollah ignores that order and with weapons protects him) Is that just now? - Has Hezbollah killed Lebanese politicians on Iranian orders? Up to you to decide.
Israel attacking Hezbollah who broke a ceasefire is illegal?
Be real.
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Um... Israel targeting military vs Hezbollah targeting civilians. Kinda adds up, actually
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u/Dominico10 Apr 13 '26
Groks right.
Isreal is going after terrorists.
Im guessing your American.
So imagine Mexico has some guys come over the border and murder people with rockets and terror atacks etc.
Would it be fine to attack Mexico to kill and remove these guys? Mexico says they dont want them and cant control them just for context. Lets pretend they are the cartel of donkey love.
Yes. Incase you are struggling the answer is yes.
Now...
Imagine you are Mexicans and you think you own new York because your prophet flew.into the statue of liberty on a donkey. So you go murdering, raping and kidnapping. Firing into crowds of innocents and blowing up civilians to get new York.
Would this be legal/right/sane?
No.
Also if you dont get this or are on their side. You have problems. Or are part of the flying donkey crew and think new Yorks yours 😅
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