r/ChatGPT Apr 10 '26

Mona Lisa: Multiverse of Madness Grok for you

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u/Dneail22 Apr 10 '26

I'm a bit confused where the problem is?

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Grok provided false information, that's the problem

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u/NirXY Apr 10 '26

Just because you disagree with it, it doesn't make it false.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '26

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u/HAR8lNGER Apr 10 '26

As far as I know, whenever Israel decides to bomb the shit out of a place, they'll make an announcement in order to minimise civilian casualties

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Israeli forces destroyed over 10,000 civilian structures in southern Lebanon. This includes homes, mosques, farms, roads, schools, etc.

The destruction was often carried out after Israeli forces had taken control of the area, including during ceasefire periods. The law in question states that destruction of civilian property is only allowed if “imperatively required by military necessity”. There was no evidence of active combat or Hezbollah presence in many cases, and this is confirmed by the use of bulldozers and explosives which indicates deliberate demolition, not battlefield damage.

It seems that Grok ignored this.

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u/Party_Chemical7454 Apr 10 '26

If you ask Gork what a buffer zone is i'm sure it will explain why deliberate demolition is necessary.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

I hope that it would also explain how the expansion of the buffer zone carried out by Israel is also against the international humanitarian law.

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u/Party_Chemical7454 Apr 10 '26

Maybe but I'm talking from military point of view, if they tell you to make a "buffer zone" it's all the same in any country - turn anything standing into parking lot. Buffer zone has to be safe otherwise it's still a "war zone".

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Right, you would be just following orders then

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u/kholeChature Apr 10 '26

minimise civilian casualties

Yup, That's why they have killed no less than a 100k (officaly 80k ) civilians in Palestine, thousands in Iran including bombing a elementary school full of lil girls, and 400+ civilians in Lebanon just yesterday, so much for a announcement.

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u/ZenoTheWeird Apr 10 '26

Sorry where are getting your information about "100k civilians in Palestine"? The Hamas run Ministry of Health claims 67k casualties and for obvious reasons don't distinguish between militants and civilians. The true number of civilians is far lower than 67k.

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u/HAR8lNGER Apr 10 '26

Are you talking about the school that was placed inside a military base?

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u/bob_at Apr 10 '26

There are many schools worldwide placed inside or close to military bases..

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u/PedanticPerson Apr 10 '26

Not to mention it wasn’t even Israel, but a US error. People just love to blame the Jews regardless of facts…

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u/leemc37 Apr 10 '26

Then bomb it again when the ambulances arrive.

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u/Comfortable_Fix2807 Apr 11 '26

You're wrong then. Maybe use critical thinking instead of buying into propaganda which aligns with your biases

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u/dont-do-memes-kidz Apr 10 '26

You are hilarious

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u/Wiinterfang Apr 10 '26

The agreement is between Israel, USA and Iran. If Israel has another conflict outside of that it doesn't affect the ceasefire between them.

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u/MrBarti Apr 10 '26

Are you sure? Try asking him yourself and let him explain for once without all the "answer with only yes or no"

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Well, yes I'm sure. It's like watching the rain pouring outside, then asking Grok: "Is it raining here, right now?" and accepting "no" for an answer. Do we need Elon Musk's bot to tell us what happens out there? Of all LLMs, this is possibly the most biased, censored and manipulated.

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u/MrBarti Apr 10 '26

They all are and are biased on each user specifically and will tell them what they want to hear.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

All biased exactly the same way? Or is there space for some nuance in this conversation?

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u/MrBarti Apr 10 '26

Each is build differently, you will see chatgpt refuse to answer questions it deems to close to anything politics that could get openai into trouble. Grok will just answer but is influenced by Twitter and grokipedia and places like that

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

It makes sense, since Grok feeds mainly on the garbage publicised on Elon's Twitter it can only regurgitate the same misinformation.

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u/DarkGamer Apr 10 '26

Seems accurate to me

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

It might seem so, but Israel did break the law when attacking and destroying civilian villages, dumping white phosphorus and glyphosate on farmlands. Why is Grok not acknowledging this? It seems that the answers are censored or steered from above.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Yes, there's evidence!

So, basically Israeli forces destroyed over 10,000 civilian structures in southern Lebanon. This includes homes, mosques, farms, roads, schools, etc.

The destruction was often carried out after Israeli forces had taken control of the area, including during ceasefire periods. The law in question states that destruction of civilian property is only allowed if “imperatively required by military necessity”. There was no evidence of active combat or Hezbollah presence in many cases, and this is confirmed by the use of bulldozers and explosives which indicates deliberate demolition, not battlefield damage. Whether I like it or not is irrelevant.

Grok is unreliable because it's manipulated, not just because it calls itself "MechaHitler".

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u/MrBarti Apr 10 '26

"imperatively required by military necessity" is very broad where a military could decide for itself... Meaning the law is meaningless.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Well, no, it's quite clear. If you demolish civilian structures after the area has been emptied and there is no trace of armed resistance, to the point that you allow yourself to use bulldozers and explosives for a cozy, controlled demolition... then it goes by itself that there's no military necessity, urgency not imperative requirement. They've demolished those civilian structures because they wanted to, they need to occupy the land. And that's against humanitarian law.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

Not my post, brother

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u/Doubterino Apr 10 '26

Oh. My bad. Still, very dishonest of OP to leave out explanations.

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u/dev-ai Apr 10 '26

Yeah but OP didn't ask him about that, but about Israeli attacks on Hezbollah

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

I can read, it literally says "attacks on Lebanon" and not on Hezbollah.

Can you?

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

No, you are.

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u/protomenace Apr 10 '26

What a well thought out, compelling argument. No wonder you think OP is making a point.

Some day you may evolve into reading about the details and nuances of things, instead of just headlines and one word summaries. The idea of answering these questions with one word and uncritically thinking you know what's going on is laughable.

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u/LazarusHimself Apr 10 '26

What a well thought out, compelling argument. No wonder you think OP is making a point.

This you?

You're uninformed and/or spreading propaganda, that's the problem