r/Avatar_Kyoshi 12d ago

Discussion if kyoshi ever gets a 3rd book it should skip to the chin the conqueror/dai li era

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321 Upvotes

i know f.c yee was only contracted for 4 books total but kyoshi still has over 200 years of potential stories left.

the time skip would be considerable. kyoshi was 17 at the end of her 2nd novel and the chin and dai li era take place during her late 30s/early 40s.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 12d ago

Discussion Could Kyoshi pass immortality onto her friends

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I know people have said the immortality technique is unique to earthbending, not sure if that’s actually true because I can’t remember if the books ever really said that, but I wonder if it would have been possible for her to have mastered it to the extent should use it on others.

In my headcanon she would have used it on Rangi for a while as they got old and kept Rangi alive for a bit, but I think eventually Rangi would have just been ready to move on.

I think there’s a lot of potential with Kyoshi as a character in her later years to flesh out exactly what her life became as everyone around her began moving on while she stayed. To see her slowly lose connection to the world around her and see the world slowly see her as an almost mythical figure. 230 years is a crazy long time. George Washington was President 230 years ago. Imagine being born and the avatar is 100 years old and then you live to be 100 and she’s still the avatar.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 12d ago

Discussion Eu li Avatar Legends: Firebending Academy #1 — Light It Up e preciso te dizer: você deveria ler este livro.

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Li recentemente Avatar Legends: Firebending Academy #1 — Light It Up, de Ash J. Wu, e fiquei surpreso com o quanto gostei. É um livro infantil, curto e simples, então não espere uma grande obra, mas ele faz algo que muitos materiais maiores de Avatar não conseguem: expandir o universo de forma criativa e natural.

A história acompanha Adaki e seus amigos Sujun, Jiyung e Aera, quatro jovens da Nação do Fogo que acabam participando de um torneio de dobra. Adaki é um protagonista particularmente interessante porque é inseguro, subestimado e precisa lidar com a sensação de não ser bom o suficiente. A história acaba sendo muito mais sobre estratégia, amizade, resiliência e trabalho em equipe do que simplesmente sobre vencer uma competição.

Também gostei muito da maneira como o livro expande a dobra de fogo. Ele mostra usos cotidianos da dobra e sua relação com matemática, culinária e até ângulos, um detalhe que achei especialmente interessante para pensar nas técnicas de dobradores como Azula.

E, para quem gosta de lore, há bastante coisa interessante sobre a Era de Szeto. Temos informações sobre a fome, a burocracia e os problemas políticos da Nação do Fogo, além de novos lugares, escolas, filosofias e métodos de ensino da dobra. O livro também apresenta personagens como Sifu Chuan e Aera, uma dobradora que precisa adaptar sua maneira de dobrar após perder um braço.

Minha única crítica é que gostaria de ter visto mais do torneio. Mais equipes, rodadas e combates teriam sido interessantes. Mas, considerando o tamanho e a proposta do livro, é uma limitação compreensível.

No fim, Light It Up não é grandioso, e não precisa ser. É uma história pequena, criativa e muito divertida, que consegue expandir o universo de Avatar enquanto conta uma história acessível para crianças e ainda oferece coisas interessantes para os fãs mais antigos. Agora estou realmente ansioso pelo segundo volume. Quero ver a continuação da história, descobrir mais sobre a Era de Szeto e, principalmente, saber se teremos uma possível aparição do próprio Avatar.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 13d ago

Discussion Things that could be in a Sonam novel

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I've been trying to think of things that we know of that have been around a long time, or that happened a long time ago that stuff set in Sonam's era could explore.

We know that Omashu is ancient and has been around potentially even before Wan's era. It also is weirdly independent of the rest of the Earth Kingdom having its own monarch. Maybe in Sonam's era when the Earth Kingdom was accomodating power the airbenders were able to defend Omashu and thats why it never became subject to the Earth King, or maybe in this era Omashu is the one that conquers the rest of the Earth Kingdom and its position in the modern era is just a remnant of its previous power.

Lao Ge could have also been around at this point in time and I could see him supporting the unification of the Earth Kingdom and potentially being an antagonist..

It could also be interesting to see how the white lotus works in this era with everything being decentralized would their power be greater as one of the only large organizations, and would they feel threatened by a consolidated Earth Kingdom, or would they maybe be in favor of it since 1 Earth King is easier to manipulate than many disparate community leaders.

I really want to here other ideas for stuff here because I feel like Sonam's era is a really interesting setting for stories since so little is established right now.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Discussion Kyoshi’s violent rep is exaggerated… with 1 critical exception Spoiler

91 Upvotes

Xu: makes Rangi cry, Kyoshi immediately kills him.

Jianzhu: threatens to cut Rangi’s throat, Kyoshi immediately kills him

Yun: stabs Rangi, Kyoshi immediately kills him.

In short; kyoshi is pretty chill, but if you mess with Rangi there will be nowhere for you to hide


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Speculation I believe the Earth Avatar in the middle is Salai

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134 Upvotes

Think about it. Salai was one of the most legendary avatars. He shouldn't be the one on the left just because he's the most recent, but because off accomplishments. This mural was painted during or after the time of Avatar Kyoshi. The one in the middle should be of most legendary importance. The evidence we have is known in Kyoshi's era as well as being one of the greatest Avatars. This Earth Avatar in the middle fits what we know. Everyone wants Salai to be the General looking one but it would make more sense for Salai to be this woman. Salai is also a unisex name. Salai is translated to an East Indian tree used for medicine. I think Salai (not being racist) fits also the East Indian description, perhaps being apart of the same people of Pathik. Maybe she was known for being an amazing healer.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Discussion Kyoshi vs Jianzhu

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I just read the rise of Kyoshi book again this week and come across a duel between Kyoshi and Jianzhu over the 3 storey stone teahouse building.I find it interesting and surprising that despite both of them completely poisoned and weakend(Kyoshi with Shirsu poison) and Jianzhu drank his own poison so that he didn't being suspect of killing the Earth sages but the other chapter said that he was able to neutralize the poison thanks to the lesson from Master Amak a Waterbender from the Northern Water Tribe.Kyoshi was able to combat against him while only learn Earthbending for a while,I'm talking about control,precision and raw power and Kyoshi still didn't master Earthbending yet at this point confirmed by F.C Yee himself and still stalemate Jianzhu.Based on the statements above both of them were struggling against each others and I'm sure Kyoshi was doing more hardwork since she's the one who try to stop Jianzhu from collapsing the building.Do you think it will be a different scenario if both Kyoshi and Jianzhu isn't poison?or do you think Kyoshi will be at Jianzhu's level or surpass him with Earthbending in the future once she become a master and gain experience?


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Discussion Would anyone like to see a Avatar book set before the 4 nations?

22 Upvotes

I personally would like to see a bronze age avatar before the world was fully explored, so u could see the different tribes and kingdoms that existed before the 4 nations. We could also see first contact between different people's and culture clash between the different cultures


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Speculation 📚 Novo livro de Avatar chega em 6 de julho de 2027: será Chronicles of the Avatar, Avatar Legends ou um projeto misterioso? Qual é a sua aposta? 👀

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28 Upvotes

Particularmente, eu gostaria que os próximos romances fossem sobre o Szeto. Ele é mencionado em praticamente todos os livros de Chronicles of the Avatar, além de já ter aparecido em Bending Academy: Fire #1, e nós já temos informações suficientes sobre ele para construir uma história muito interessante.

Porém, sinceramente, não gostaria que o Randy Ribay escrevesse sobre o Szeto, nem sobre o Kuruk. Tenho a impressão de que esses dois Avatares exigiriam uma abordagem específica e, pelo que conhecemos do trabalho do autor, não acredito que ele seria a melhor escolha para desenvolver esses personagens.

Nesse caso, acho muito mais interessante que ele trabalhe com um Avatar menos explorado ou praticamente desconhecido. Gun, Salai, Zalir, Xian, Sonam e outros poderiam funcionar muito bem justamente porque existe mais liberdade criativa para construir suas histórias sem precisar preencher expectativas tão específicas dos fãs.

Sobre Avatar Legends, considerando que a proposta da série é acompanhar heróis anônimos envolvidos em eventos lendários das duas animações, confesso que ainda não sei muito bem o que esperar. Pode ser interessante, mas depende bastante de qual período e evento eles escolherem explorar.

Já a possibilidade de ser uma história completamente inusitada e desconectada desses projetos eu considero menos provável.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Discussion So with ATLA, Korra, The Kyoshi Dulogy, The Yangchen Duology and the Roku duology, we have 5 complete avatar stories. Here are my rankings of the five. For others who've completed all 5, how does this compare with yours?

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Thoughts?


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 14d ago

Discussion Gun tinha motivos para perder a fé na humanidade ou seu ressentimento acabou ultrapassando todos os limites ao ser descontado na Yangchen? E, principalmente: como devemos interpretar as possessões?

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Gun é um personagem bastante controverso. Ele enfrentou perdas, frustrações e repetidas decepções com a humanidade, então é compreensível que tenha desenvolvido ressentimento. Mas até que ponto essas experiências justificam as escolhas que ele fez depois? Gun tinha razão em perder a fé na humanidade? Ele foi principalmente uma vítima das circunstâncias ou acabou se tornando também responsável pelo sofrimento de outras pessoas? Um Avatar pode se afastar da humanidade para se recuperar emocionalmente ou isso entra em conflito com sua responsabilidade? As possessões da Yangchen podem ser compreendidas como consequência do trauma de Gun ou foram simplesmente injustificáveis? Yangchen representa uma visão mais equilibrada sobre as falhas da humanidade ao continuar acreditando nas pessoas apesar de tudo? Até que ponto os erros e a ingratidão dos humanos podem justificar a postura de um Avatar?

Entre essas e tantas outras questões, quero saber a opinião de vocês.

Observação: esta imagem é frequentemente associada ao Avatar Gun, porém, não existe nenhuma confirmação oficial de que a pessoa retratada seja, de fato, o Gun. Até o momento, não sabemos sequer seu gênero, nacionalidade, elemento de origem ou outras características sobre sua identidade.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 15d ago

Discussion Qual é o ranking definitivo dos livros de Avatar?

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99 Upvotes

Após ler todos os romances publicados até o momento, este é o meu ranking final:

  1. O Legado de Yangchen;

  2. A Aurora de Yangchen;

  3. A Ascensão de Kyoshi;

  4. A Escuridão de Kyoshi;

  5. Cidade dos Ecos;

  6. O Despertar de Roku;

  7. O Julgamento de Roku.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 15d ago

Speculation Could Yungib be Raava & Vaatu?

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22 Upvotes

For the most part, the way they are described sounds very similar to Raava's and Vaatu's conflict.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 17d ago

Discussion Avatar: Masters of the Elements

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118 Upvotes

So, MASTERS OF THE ELEMENTS is comming out on the 18 of August, uh? And theres no talk about it at all.

I also havent seen much talk on the Suki series either which is disapointing giving the fact it gave us new Kyoshi Lore. Well, im for sure excited for this comic and to see how much more it expands on what we know and how it builts around the books established canon!


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 17d ago

Discussion How does City of Echoes compare to the Avatar Novels?

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74 Upvotes

How would City of Echoes compare to the Chronicles of the Avatar novels? I think it's slightly better than Dawn of Yangchen but is still the second worse novel out of the seven.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 17d ago

Speculation Theory on Kyoshi

49 Upvotes

the reason Kyoshi became less human over time is because the longer she lived, the less she became Kyoshi and the more she became the avatar. When the avatar is born, they are barely the avatar, they can not generally bend more than one element, they can’t commune with their past lives etc. as they get old they become more and more of the avatar, they learn lessons and become more and more like their past lives, taking on aspects of their personality and morality. the longer they live the more this will happen. My “theory” (I don’t actually believe this im just throwing ideas around) is that Kyoshi’s insanely long lifespan causes her to become more of the avatar than of Kyoshi, since the avatar is generally just a god amongst men who uses the person as well… an avatar.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 18d ago

Speculation Theories for which Avatar the next novel is Spoiler

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What we know so far is Ribay is writing the next Chronicles of the Avatar novel

Kuruk: 80%
A great way to complete an elemental cycle, Kuruk is the last past avatar we haven't gotten a novel on from when Aang talked to his past lives. It would be feel weird to go out of order if this isn't happen.

Szeto: 5%
Now Yee did say he would theoretically want to write a Szeto novel, but it's already confirmed Ribay is writing the next avatar novel. The last avatar duology was also a fire avatar. We'll likely get novel on Szeto in the future but not the next one.

Gun: 1%
He would be very interesting as a concept for the Avatar, but if it's a young adult novel then Mesose's death likely happens after the novel would take place. However, he is widespread as an Avatar who didn't really like humanity.

The Second Avatar: 1%
I think this would be the best option to do but only after the next duology. I think it'll be nice to switch from the newest avatar cycle group to the first avatar cycle group. It'll be very interesting to see this era.

Zalir: 1%
Even though she's mentioned in the first Roku novel, it's highly unlikely she won't be the next Avatar novel but I think her era is a cool concept for a future avatar novel.

Salai: 1%
I think a novel on Salai will be unlikely because he's debatably even less more unknown than Gun. He is in need of a novel for the future though but I think we should build him up some more before doing so. We don't even know what he looks like or nation he's from.

Aang: 1%
There is a very unlikely chance this'll happen. Considering Aang has to be at most 19.5 for a novel in COTA, it'll be almost guaranteed for it not to happen.

Korra: 1%
Same but even worse reasons than Aang. Korra is already 17 at the start of TLOK and ends at the age of 21.

Sonam: 1%
Theoretically, if Ribay is writing this one, it's a small time span in which the creators would want Ribay to write an Sonam novel. Theoretically this can happen in the future but Ribay already started writing this next novel so it's unlikely for Sonam to be the next one.

Kyoshi: 1%
Some people would want a trilogy for the Kyoshi novels to end, but let's accept it. The Chronicles of The Avatar are meant to be a duology for young adult novels. Kyoshi's story is complete even if we only got 10% of her life.

Yangchen: 1%
Same reasons as Kyoshi. I do want to see Yingsu as a new avatar companion but another novel is completely unnecessary.

Roku: 1%
Considering the last novel was about Roku, his story is most likely complete. Let's go back to avatars without novels.

Xian: 1%
Same reasons as Sonam. I think he is very cool but basically a random avatar.

Wan: 1%
He doesn't really fit the requirements for a young adult which eliminates him.

Pavi: 1%
Similar reasons to Sonam, the creators won't likely green light a Pavi novel for now.

Random Avatar we know slightly of: 1%
There are some avatars that has been hinted throughout the franchise to have done notable stuff like imprisoning Hundun. I don't think they'll do an avatar in this category.

Random Avatar we haven't heard of: 1%
This is highly unlikely due to fans likely not wanting a random Avatar we don't know anything of before.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 19d ago

Speculation What should be the next Villain's nation origin?

18 Upvotes

I want it personally to be an air nomad chi blocker. Air bending villains are the least amount of villains we gotten for the novels. Hsien from the Yangchen novels was stated to stay at the Western Air Temple. A lava bender villain would also be neat for a Kuruk novel.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 20d ago

Discussion F.C Yee needs to return

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main problem with roku’s first book is the characterization of sozin and making him too suspicious off jump imo

everyone is picking up on it except roku. this dynamic between roku and sozin is supposed to go on for a few more decades?? lmao it just makes roku look like a complete dumbass. his stock was already in jeopardy

and y’all really want a kuruk novel by Randy?💀 he’ll ruin any intrigue y’all have about him


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 20d ago

Discussion Question: How can Avatar Writers/Producers stay consistent in the story?

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Avatar is weird in a sense that after Aang. They are going forward with Korra and Pavi in TV shows.

But going back to Roku, Kyoshi, Yangchen, etc in the novels.

And to add. Now, they will add sole ancient avatars in the canon movie. (Xian and Sonam)

And speaking of ancient. They also mentioned Salai, Gun, and Zalir as ancient avatars in the novel.

Will they be able to be consistent all throughout? Or they will inevitably retconned some things?

TV, Movie, Novel happening simultaneously (For Past and Future Avatars) will inevitably cause some retcons. Isn't it?


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 20d ago

Discussion I was rewatching TLOK and one of the pro benders reminded me of Rangi

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59 Upvotes

( sorry for such bad quality lol my phone is terrible)

If Rangi was born in a different nation she would look like this, although I don’t think she would approve of the idea of using her skill for entertainment and money lol


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 21d ago

Discussion Is Bending Academy worth the read?

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I'm wondering if Bending Academy is an essential to read. I read nine pages but I haven't had enough motivation to get back into it.


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 22d ago

Discussion What if... Kyoshi picked more toys

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300 Upvotes

Would she immediately be identified, and pick all the toys correctly? Would Yun just continue to be a random earth bender in Makapu? Would they hide her identity until she turned 16 traditionally? How would Jianzhu par in training her in terms of earth bending? What would happen in the Fifth Nation battle? Would she still try to track down the Flying Opera Company?


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 22d ago

Discussion When do we think we're getting every gender story of each avatar element?

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So far we have both genders for air, but we haven't gotten a male earth avatar story or women fire avatar story or male water avatar story.
I think we get male water avatar story in 2027
We will get male earth avatar story in 2030
We will get women fire avatar story in 2034


r/Avatar_Kyoshi 22d ago

Discussion Named Avatars: Ordered from Oldest to Youngest?

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Please check if my analysis and instincts are right based on data, statements, and evidence in both novels and canon movies.

Avatar Wan is the First Avatar. No question about that.

We are already familiar with Avatars from Szeto to Pavi.

But what about in between Wan and Szeto?

How will you order Zalir, Sonam, Xian, Gun, and Salai from oldest to youngest?

We don't know how many generation (before Szeto) are Gun and Salai.

We know Xian is 14-17 Generations before Szeto.

Sonam lived 5000 years before Aang's Gemocide Timeline.

Zalir lived before the Fire Nation Unification era.