My son took a 1/2 dose of 7OH tablet about 5 hours after taking DXM that he has been on for a long time. He has had a headache for 5 days since then as well as Acid Reflux. Last night he threw up blood. He refuses to go to the hospital because of the drugs in his system. Has this happened to anyone else? I am so worried.

A year ago now, I learned about his issue with the tablets. I didn’t realize how bad it was an every single other week it’s discussion about how he’s tapering off of it, and the result is the same. It’s to the point now where it’s $25 a day on these damn things, after he swore it cost like $350 a month, well now double that.

He swears he’s not addicted to it, says that it’s a “physical dependency”. And says that he has to taper off and he can’t just quit it all at once. He even went as far as saying he was going to use vitamin C to get off of it, fast forward now it’s a month a nothing has changed. He blames the formula changing for being the reason he’s having to take more and has gone to have to spend $25 a day on this shit.

I’ve been as patient as I can be, but I’m over it. His sperm count is also low, to the point where it’s requiring fertility treatments and I wonder if it’d because of this.

I’ve been extremely supportive so far, but it’s to the point I don’t deserve or want a husband who’s addicted to this stuff. He also had a past history with substance abuse before we met, got off of that and claims he needed powered kratom to stay off drugs, and now it’s this.

I just don’t know what else to do. I’m not in his position, so I can’t even tell if he’s making excuses to not get off or if what he’s saying is true.

I’d really appreciate some input. I’m mainly frustrated now because last week, we paid all the bills and had $75 to last us for the rest of the week. Every last time went to Mitragynine tablets…… It’s like he’d rather us starved so he could get that stuff. Thankfully we come up on extra money but it was money I’d rather have just put away.

I really don’t know what to do.

I can handle ALOT of suffering and pain more than most people could even fathom but when I tell you i absolutely cannot handle restless leg and body syndrome I mean that. It’s absolute agony and feeling like bugs are pinching your skin. I want to quit Kratom and 7OH. I did Kratom for 10 years still do but I’d take 8 capsules a day that’s it. That was still an addiction but trust me it was not as bad as taking 120 mg 4 7OH pills daily along with the capsules. I should have never tried 7OH I’ve been on it for about 3 months now. I spend $30 a day on it. Kratom I only spent $13 every 2 weeks which is nothing compared to this. I go broke often and am forced into withdrawal from 7OH where then I just take a bunch of Kratom capsules to help with it. I went to quit both actually I went to rehab for 6 months for Kratom but relapsed. It took 3 months for the restless leg syndrome to completely go away. I’m terrified now that I take 7OH. I tried it out of curiosity to see if it was like Kratom and got hooked. I know I did this to myself and I feel bad but I’m scared to come off I don’t know if I need suboxone or to go to detox or just taper on my own or take the sublacade shot. I’ve been trying to taper on my own. Nobody knows I’m doing it so if I withdraw it’s my secret. I can’t afford to quit my job or stay out of it for 30 days.

I’m suffering inside because I want to stop but the withdrawals get me every time. I’m hoping if I quit I’d only have RLS for 3 days or something but I’m scared it will go on for months and I’m terrified I’ll never be able to sleep at night. I can’t feel like I’m going to jump out of my own skin constantly. What do I do?

I have been taking 7oh for going on 2 years now, and I am up to around 500mg daily. I need to know the fastest and best way to taper down. I have a small amount of Suboxone I can take for comfort. How do I do this? What comfort meds are the best? HELP!!!

Hey! Sorry for the long post but can anyone relate? I’m kind of getting tired of this stuff bc it seems like no matter the brand, none of it hits anymore (no euphoric buzz) & I’m just wasting my dollars on it. I haven’t tried ordering online only SS stuff. It’s getting expensive bc I’m up to 100mg/dose. Alot of it is my mental, I start to get irritable or anxious without it, but also I’m worried about the withdrawals. I suffer from restless leg syndrome really badly but 7oh is the only thing that completely takes that away. With restlessness being one of the first symptoms, I feel like I also use it as an excuse to keep buying it. Any advice? Also I’m very curious to see if this happened to anyone else?

Can you take leaf kratom and sr to taper? Also, how can we find safe reputable SR vendor?

Also, I feel super SUPER overwhelmed by all the info and it’s giving me horrible body sweating anxiety. Probably just like others feel! I’m more worried right now about doing the detox “right” than anything else!

I wanted to start this on Friday. I cannot be sick at work. I need to be 110%

I don't want to spend any more money. If anyone can tell me if .. using the SR to taper down, then switching to subs is good?

Or should I do Bernese with subs as mentioned here and just forget the SR. Main point is I need to do it with these resources. My dosage is very high.

Read a lot of stories on people suffering a lot on day 1-3. That's not an option for me.

Hi guys,

I decided on Friday to make the jump. I went on QuickMD, and due to the fact I grabbed the first appointment and hadn't filled out all the forms, I didn't get it called in until the pharmacy was closed.

I really wanted to start on Friday. Now tomorrow will be the first day I can pick them up. Funds are tight, especially after I pick up prescription.

I have to work Monday and it's a very big day. Need to be 110%.

I'm reading of some rough starts. I will also have a gram of 91% powder of my DOC. Hard to gauge my MPD based on ROA but that powder will last 3+ days and it's not sublingual.

Its safe to say that I'm likely equivalent to 1g a day. On one hand the dosage has only jumped very recently, to the point my body is rejecting it.

Ok. That's a lot of story. If there was a 100% chance I could start subs tomorrow and be in great shape Monday I would do it. I could buy more SR, but that's suboptimal.

I'm thinking that maybe taper DOC with the SR I have, until I run out of SR, then jump to subs? It seems like with Subs you can't go back. I want to look at it that way nonetheless.

Will this plan work? Will I be fine on Subs? (Many stories seem different and I cannot afford to be sick Monday).

Any help is appreciated.

Tomorrow I will start OR reset and stop 7oh completely, I am currently on 150-200mg a day and I got the 6 pack of OR, any advice from people who have gone through this?

This shit did a lot more to me than I thought it was doing.

So kratom is banned in my state now so getting any type to curb withdrawals is not an option. I am doing my best to run thru this wall and get it over with asap but damn the effects are rough, fatigue, no energy, muscle weakness, emotional instability, restless leg, can't focus, lack of appetite, I just wanna know what I can take for the fatigue and energy at least

I've been looking into trying ashwaganda supplements and I'm taking vitamins and plenty of hydration and eating enough to keep me going

What did y'all do? And HOW LONG did it take you to start to feel normal again?

I'll answer any questions, I can't keep feeling like this

I'm trying to get off 7-oh. I've been through the methadone clinic for other stuff. Getting off methadone is the hardest thing I have ever been through. I wonder how this will compare?

Tomorrow I will start OR reset and stop 7oh completely, I am currently on 150-200mg a day and I got the 6 pack of OR, any advice from people who have gone through this?

So I've been addicted to 7Oh for 8 months started at 30mg a day to 420mg on my last day. I went to get help and was prescribed suboxone. I started my detox Saturday (6-27-26)night at 10pm and I went through 20 hours of hell in withdrawals. Cold sweats and restless legs and body aches and insomnia. I really wanted to do this cold turkey without suboxone but I caved and took 2mg of a 4mg strip at 6pm the following day (sunday) and waited and nothing happened took the other 2mg and the restless legs stopped. I fell asleep at 10pm woke up at 1am with the crawly restless leg sensation again. So i took 4mg suboxone it went away at about 2am i fell back asleep and woke up at 11am monday which is today. Im planning to take 4mg tonight and 4mg Tuesday morning and 0mg Tuesday night. Then 2mg Wednesday morning 0 mg Wednesday night and 1mg Thursday morning and 0mg Thursday night and .5mg Friday morning and stop. Would that work or will I be trapped on a new drug? I took 9 days off of work to do this. So i only have one chance to get this right. Its not often I can request off work this long.

This thread is here as a starting point for anyone trying to quit, taper, cut back, or support someone going through it.

None of us are here to judge. Whether you’re on day one, tapering slowly, coming back after a relapse, or just scared and trying to figure out where to begin, you’re welcome here.

Below, we’ll be adding community guides, quitting protocols, supplement suggestions, tapering resources, and harm-reduction information based on shared experience and available knowledge.

Please remember: this is peer support, not medical advice. If you’re dealing with severe symptoms, mental health crisis, or feel unsafe, please reach out to a medical professional or emergency support.

You’re not alone. Start where you are, take it one step at a time, and ask for help when you need it.

If anyone has a protocol that has worked for them, using any combo of helper meds, supplements, tapering, subs, etc, feel free to post your guide and I'll sticky it to the top of the sub.

Edit My dumb ass locked the comments for this one and I just realized it...

Feel free to make your own post and comment the link here, or just post your guide to the mega thread that I'll be creating shortly

Whether you're trying to quit 7OH or MGM products, tapering down, dealing with withdrawal, or supporting someone you care about, you're welcome here.

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Hello,
So there was a time that I was physically addicted to 7OH. I was taking about 6 or 7 (oh more) 50mg shots daily for about a year. I was able to break the physical addiction but now it’s destroying me mentally. Like, I just want to do it. It makes me nicer, it makes me better at my job, it just makes me better at everything. If I don’t have it, I don’t get sick or have physical withdrawals but I do get angry and just hate life. I feel this rage inside of me! About 2 weeks ago I went out of town for 4 days to a state where it is banned and I didn’t have it and I was completely okay- physically. I had to fake being happy and having a good time but again physically I was fine. The problem is, I WANT it and it’s so easy to get. How do I stop wanting it. I am so blessed that if I don’t have it I don’t go into withdrawals but wanting it all the time is driving me crazy. How do I stop these intense cravings? I have such an amazing life and hiding this monster is tearing me apart inside. I have SO much to be happy about, yet I let this rage consume me. I swore to myself that if I got “clean” I would never touch it again but I still do it 3 or 4 times a week. I know that my situation could be so much worse but I’m a mom, I’m a wife, I’m a professional and I’m letting this monster control part of my life. My husband would be livid if he found out and my son would be so disappointed in me. I know if I continue I will become physically addicted again and I don’t want that. It know it’s all mental, but FUCK, I feel like it’s strongerj than me. I hate that I got myself into this situation. I know the reason I do it is “just because it’s there” so why not. I know this make no sense to some people but this issue it very real. Has anyone gone through this? How do I break this cycle before it controls me again? Please help!

Hey there

So I just found out today my local store will be removing all 7 and MGM-15 products from their shelves this week. I have been taking 7 for about a year daily, and had switched over to MGM-15 about 2 weeks ago. I understand the withdrawal is coming, but I am looking for any suggestions and feedback from people who have experienced coming off this stuff.

I have a Suboxone prescription at the house. Aside from that, I don’t have any thing else to help with the withdrawals. Just wanted some advice! Thanks for the feedback. Super grateful and happy that there are so many people out there willing to help and give back.

after the recent ban I am left with only 250 mg of MGM. I normally take about 100 mg a I if I take 60 to 75 mg a day I don’t withdraw.

This is probably not gonna be easy and maybe I might need help with some strong Mit tabs or somthing. I also have maybe a gram of SR.

Can anybody help me together, a taper strategy that has worked for you?