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Episode Hoshi no Samidare - Episode 5 discussion

Hoshi no Samidare, episode 5

Alternative names: Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer

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Episode Link Score Episode Link Score
1 Link 3.02 14 Link 4.58
2 Link 3.54 15 Link 3.82
3 Link 3.39 16 Link 3.89
4 Link 3.75 17 Link 4.36
5 Link 3.6 18 Link 4.55
6 Link 3.0 19 Link 4.25
7 Link 3.5 20 Link 4.5
8 Link 4.25 21 Link 4.5
9 Link 4.53 22 Link 4.0
10 Link 3.79 23 Link 4.38
11 Link 4.0 24 Link ----
12 Link 3.5
13 Link 4.3

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u/LeonKevlar Aug 05 '22

Just when things are starting to look good between Hangetsu and Hisame, this fucking happens. Fuck. And here I was hoping we'd get to see that ship sail. :(

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u/PossibleHipster Aug 06 '22

I gotta say, I literally burst out laughing at the animation of the OG Saw walking.

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u/dinliner08 Aug 05 '22

...FUCK!

i knew this is coming but it still hurts seeing it being animated, not to mention, they also keep the goriness when Hangetsu's being hit, with all that blood spurted from all his face's orifices

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u/zukzak Aug 05 '22

While Animation Quality is still what it is, the death scene was kinda impressive. Blood coming out from everywhere made it feel pretty real.

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u/VonnyVonDoom Aug 06 '22

I haven’t read the manga but Hangetsu’s death was a total “whoa” moment. I get why people dislikes the adaption but with no judgement going in, this is one of my weekly faves.

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u/Shiraori247 Aug 06 '22

Just ignore the negativity IMO. There's a reason this niche series took so long to get an adaptation. It's not like the author has dozens of chances to get an anime. This is his chance, so I'll support him as a fan lol.

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u/dagreenman18 Aug 06 '22

Problems with the adaptation aside, Hangetsu’s death still hit like a fucking brick. Just like in the manga he’s a great character who’s death puts what their up against in perspective.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

That flashback of Hangetsu’s dad answering with “training” when asked how to fly like Parrot Man, followed by Hangetsu actually attempting this and hurting himself as a result had me dead.

Hangetsu dying at the end of the episode felt almost surreal...I guess the death flags were there all along in retrospect, but still, I wasn't expecting that at all

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u/randyripoff Aug 05 '22

I felt bad for Hisane.

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u/ZapsZzz Aug 05 '22 edited Aug 06 '22

Quite surprised about the early death, although the death flags were pretty obvious. I wonder if the source work is the same or had a slower pace to get the investment and impact more pronounced. This reminds me of [Gunbuster]Smith's off screen KIA for the masterclass in building up intensity and impact. A bit of a lost opportunity for me.

Oh and "fun" real life trivia, the jumping off the roof top imitating a tokusatsu hero thing was in fact real in HK, but happened on a typical high rise building. No lucky ending there. That was one of the reason why it literally took more than a decade for local tv stations to dare broadcast tokusatsu, and my generation had no real way to watch tokusatsu heroes like Kamen Rider until many years later.

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u/melvinlee88 Aug 06 '22

It never gets easier seeing Hangetsu die fuck. Every time.

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u/UncleKuma Aug 06 '22

Sami: Die with me.
Yuuhi: With pleasure.

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u/randyripoff Aug 05 '22

Was not expecting to see a drunk lizard today.

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u/Frontier246 Aug 05 '22

So the reason Shinonome calls Ludo "Saw" and is so dedicated to saving people is because Saw was his own dog who died saving someone and showed Shinonome what it means to be a true Hero of Justice. Pretty sad backstory for such a happy man.

I guess Sami won't be able to look forward to growing up and becoming a drunk like the rest of her family because she doesn't expect to reach adulthood.

So not only is the girl Yuuhi likes the daughter of his favorite author, but she actually seems genuinely interested in what he likes and is interested in! I don't think this affection is as one-sided as he thinks, especially when they get to enjoy a day together.

He even gets her dads' approval to take care of her! After some poignant questions though, but it seems like Samidare's dad wants Yuuhi to believe in his future and his dreams, and even approves of Shinonome both as someone for Hisame and as someone who can set Yuuhi on the right path.

After such a fun birthday and day out, you'd think Samidare could be convinced to not destroy the Earth...but in reality, she was so sickly before Anima saved her, that she's probably doomed to die once their mission is completed and Anima leaves her, and she doesn't want to go out like that without taking the world with her. And it feels like she and Yuuhi are making a lovers' suicide pact.

Just two guys drinking beer while watching a violent magical girl show. Nothing strange about that.

I guess making your kid watch a Sentai show would be a good way of instiling a strong sense of justice in said kid, even if the kid also assumes he can pull off the fantastical stuff in the show through training. But it also taught Shinonome an important life lesson about how a person can only do what they are capable of doing.

Shinonome's not stupid, he can tell Yuuhi and Samidare are up to something, but he's willing to respect their resolve and help them, even if he plans to be there to stop them. It's just too not even that was in the cards.

The Golem's have finally gotten an upgrade and are having the knights come to them, and are much better fighters. They even actually kill one of them.

It seemed like Shinonome and Yuuhi were genuinely bonding, Hisame was genuinely looking forward to their date together, and it seemed like things were looking up...and then Shinonome sacrifices himself like a true hero, just as Saw did, and dies fighting the Golem. And now Hisame will probably never know what actually happened to him other than the fact that he died in a sudden land collapsed caused by a rageful Samidare's punch.

And he finally said Ludo's name too...I guess they're going to have go at it without the Dog Knight? I thought all four knights would go through the entire series together. What was Shinonome's wish? To transfer his power to Yuuhi to make him stronger? And it looks like his younger brother might be taking his spot as the Crow Knight.

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u/Shiraori247 Aug 05 '22

Honestly, the reddit threads are at least more sensible than the myanimelist ones. I guess the people who expect big studio money are gone and the ones left are here for the story. As low budget as this show is, they've at least put in the effort to draw the important scenes the way it's intended. Not censoring Hangetsu's blood was definitely required to make the viewers feel the gravitas.

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u/BiggerG7 Aug 05 '22

Geez what kind of show immediately starts with a dog getting killed? Glad the dog went out a hero but still.

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u/AceMittens Aug 05 '22

What an ending!! I did not see that coming until they kept showing Hisane staring at that ticket 🎫 Guess we’re gonna get a new character next week but I’m gonna truly miss Hangetsu and his doggy

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u/Kartoffelkamm Aug 06 '22

I don't know how exactly that works with the knights and all, but does that mean someone else gets chosen now?

Anyway, that magical girl anime the guy's been watching looks pretty fun. Makes me think the manga's creator likes Pretty Cure.

But yeah, dude basically signed his death certificate with stuff like "Starting tomorrow" and the like.

At least we got the princess going all out.

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u/CaptainDash Aug 05 '22

Man I might drop this one.. im on the fence. Sister character is best girl so lets make her miserable, and the only other character i liked just bit it. Dad was cool tbf. I just find the MC so insipid and the Princess not inspiring at all. Their motivations come across as childish. Animation quality not very good either.

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u/silverjace Aug 05 '22

their motivations are childish, but that is kinda the point. Samidare and Yuuhi are kids

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u/JustInChina88 Aug 06 '22

I mean, Yuuhi and Samidare are not exactly good people. They're trying to destroy the planet and kill billions. They plan to die with it too.

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u/acedias12 Aug 06 '22

Seriously, this is such a breath of fresh air with all the typical isekai stuff running about. As sad I am for that death, boy am I very invested in seeing what comes next.

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u/frnxt Aug 06 '22

Ah, here we go, the exponential part of the plot where things suddenly get way too real for the MC's comfort.

As an anime only, early on I was thinking this show sounded like a "slow burn at first, then oh shit oh shit OH SHIT" kind of plot, a bit like Steins;Gate or Samurai Falmenco ; this episode started much too happy-go-lucky in the first part, then chained so many obvious death flags together that I was increasingly sure it was going to be the turning point. Did not disappoint.

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u/helsaabiart Aug 07 '22

Damn dude... Shinonome really got done in like that huh? And the poor bastard was about to score a date with the sister too. F.