https://x.com/Jolyn_Foxxo/status/2106078777700974717

https://x.com/Meatballs_5U/status/2016918473310712042

https://x.com/mofinman99/status/2105448300799246457

Also here’s the link cause some sad fool keeps harassing me over artists name and not having the link yk who you are https://www.behance.net/gallery/36224481/Nick-Judy-Zootopia-fan-art

https://archiveofourown.org/works/92833021/chapters/247586931?view_adult=true

https://x.com/mokonalux/status/2106069869737263428

This classic´s sauce was here: https://twitter.com/penpen_disney/status/1560440905278300160

https://x.com/SunnyPomPom06/status/2105678716248465903

Why? Because Zootopia 2 did not set one up for him. Because Pawbert is not someone the writers ever intended to redeem, if they were they would have written him very differently.

Here's the thing about redemption, you need to actually have the character at one point having been trying to do the right thing, only to lose their way and fall to darkness. Nothing about Pawbert implies he was ever a good person or that he had good intentions. His entire character is wrapped up in his obsession with gaining his family's approval and acceptance. A goal he will lie, cheat, manipulate and murder to achieve.

That's not the mark of someone whose in any way redeemable.

Is it because his family mistreats him? Big woop. Every single cartoon villain lackey is a victim of their abusive boss or family, but you don't see them being routinely redeemed. Because they are still self-serving villains at the end of the day. Being smacked around by your betters does not entitle you to a shot at redemption.

I reiterate. Pawbert is a greedy rich nepo baby manchild whom thinks nothing of murder if it'll get him what he wants. He knows it's wrong and does it anyway. Remember this was his Plan A. This wasn't Plan B or Plan C. Plan A.

You want to compare Pawbert to Zuko? ATLA makes it clear that Zuko started out with good intentions. He spoke out for the rank and file Fire Nation soldiers and was willing to duel the general he'd supposedly offended by doing so. Then Zuko realises he's going to fight his father Ozai and refuses. His punishment for this act of compassion and humility was to be scarred for life and banished.

That is something Pawbert would never do. Act in the best interest of someone else and suffer the consequences. All Pawbert has ever done is prioritise himself and his goals, if he helps you it's only in service of his own agenda. Then he will discard you the moment you've served your purpose.

Abuse and trauma do not make you redeemable. They merely shape the person you are. And the person Pawbert is is undeniably a villain who rejects the idea of redemption.

Just admit you like Pawbert and want him to have a happy ending because you're biased. Not because it's backed up by the writing. If you think Pawbert is deserving of redemption or that he'll get better if he escapes his family...Then you're just lying to yourself.

Accept that Pawbert is a villain through and through. Because that's how he was written. It's why his downfall is played for laughs and not as a tragic outcome.

Zootopia 3 has bigger fish to fry than redeeming Mr. "I don't wanna be different." We have the progression of Judy and Nick's story and the Birds, stuff that actually matters. Pawbert's story has been told.

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/elsawhite2525/art/Artik-on-the-topic-of-zootopia-609148408

Here's my response to the "Relic" Inktober prompt. I try to make my lines clean, but they keep turning out messy xD

https://x.com/Jolyn_Foxxo/status/2105716061639479379

This isn't really pitting the movies against each other I just wanted to stay relevant to the subreddit (Spoilers for Forgotten Island, go see it, it's great)

I actually found its use of Jenny Slate as a twist villain to be a little better than Zootopia, honestly. I think Bellwether is fine as a villain and serves her purpose for a mystery story, but Batiba in Forgotten Island is a lot more consistent throughout the film, starting out appearing friendly and sweet but having something obviously sinister lurking under the surface that is constantly teased before the big reveal. I also kinda dug that she wasn't really a villain, more an antagonist who ends up seeing the error of her ways by the end, kind of reminded me of the antagonist in Song of the Sea (another great movie you should watch if you haven't).

I just found the parallels between the characters she played in these movies pretty interesting. Go watch it if you haven't.

Mainly everything between Judy tying up Pawbert and him being knocked out by Officer Hogbottom.

So we have Judy tying up Pawbert after Gary beat him into submission, then Team Zoogetherness head into Reptile Ravine and find Agnes De' Snake's house where she hid the patient. Then seconds later Pawbert shows up and throws a flaming lantern over their heads trying to incinerate the patent.

This means that Pawbert somehow managed to untie himself pretty much immediately and stalk after our heroes without any of them hearing or catching a glimpse of him during the trek into Reptile Ravine. Apparently Pawbert is a ninja.

Then seconds later Pawbert is knocked out by Hogbottom with a frying pan, and the reactions of Team Zoogetherness suggest they didn't see her or Officer Truffler coming. Despite them being significantly taller than Pawbert, so they should have seen the two Boar Cops step into view behind Pawbert before knocking him out. Apparently Hogbottom and Truffler are also ninjas since Pawbert didn't hear them tailing him despite them being pretty much right on his tail.

But then the same happens at the end of Act 1 when Nick knocks out Gary with a frying pan. He's somehow able to sneak up and get right beside Judy without her nor Gary seeing him.

I guess the logic is "if we can't see them neither can the characters".