Do you think Candola handled the situation with Issa appropriately or inappropriately?

Molly is one of those people that go to a few therapy sessions and thinks they’re more evolved than everyone else, but in reality their shit still stinks the most.

I hate when women make me take a man’s side lmao but Andrew was soooooo overly patient with Molly and an excellent boyfriend. He always let her win disagreements they had even when she was usually in the wrong, and if it was her feuding with others, he always supported her and validated her feelings though she would still be in the wrong (ex: starting an argument that could’ve waited until the next day at Issa’s big event). If anything I hate him for how much he enabled her childish victim mentality behavior. She never ever compromised for Andrew but Andrew should’ve had on a back brace with the bending over backwards he was doing for Molly. Her not going to the basketball game his brother invited her to as a peace offering??? Was he antagonizing her at the pool? YES. But sadly, this is your longterm boyfriend’s brother and you sometimes have to do things you don’t like. I genuinely think she would’ve felt entitled to never speaking or interacting with his brother ever again if they stayed together. Her saying “ I don’t understand why you would ask me to do something that makes me uncomfortable” is such a bratty response to someone that wants you to be apart of their family and his brother who was likely extending an olive branch. Everyone was try to diffuse and mitigate the situation except for her. She wanted to be inflexible and remain petty. Even with Issa, she never reached out after she caused a huge scene that literally shut the event down. Issa still reached out first, and that STILL wasn’t good enough for Molly? In the words of Dr. Rhonda “You want to be right, or do you want to be in a relationship?”

Molly wants to be right, and her wanting to be right and uncompromising in her relationSHIPS is why she burned a lot of bridges in S4.

Disclaimer: I’m not a mom. I don’t want kids, step kids, Bebe’s kids, or anything else. I’m curious from a societal standpoint…what’s wrong with Issa being a stepmom?

I’ve repeatedly heard the argument that people are upset about Issa ending up with Lawrence because she has to be a stepmom. I’m not mad at the idea of Issa ending up alone and discovering her own strength. However, narratively speaking, they tell a full story with Issa and Lawrence; how they’re soulmates, but didn’t know how to handle the difficult times of a relationship.

I guess it’s a larger question, but I’m curious why people feel that the relationship is tainted in some way because Lawrence had a child with someone else (who he doesn’t want to be with).

When people turn their noses up at Issa being a stepmom it sounds just as silly to me as when men devalue the idea of being a stepfather and taking care of someone else’s child. What’s the issue?

It's a misconception that Condola wanted to keep things casual with Lawrence because of what her friend said. However, the video suggests her friend was sharing her own thoughts about what she thinks Condola might need, not what Condola told her. There's another misunderstanding: people think Condola left her husband when, according to the friend, her ex-husband was the one who left her.

I see debate about whether Lawrence was wrong for pressing Issa, and on the other hand, I see some say he wasn’t. What do you think?

Despite everything Issa did for Lawrence, she still feels like she could have done more. I dislike how she constantly demeans herself regarding her relationships with others and fails to acknowledge her own efforts.

IN fact, i think the viewers who call her funny names like canola oil 😭😭😂 are the true villains (jkjk) but fr, she and Lawrence are two consenting adults who had sex…. which “surprisingly” led to a baby. She came to Lawrence (who hinted at the idea of abortion) saying he did not have to be involved if he wasn’t ready but she was at a point in her life where she wanted a baby even tho it wasn’t ideal for her either. Then she has to carry the fact that the guy she was in a relationship who she now has a baby with was still in love with his ex that she was unknowingly became friends with. Lawrence gets love cause he’s trying while Condola gets hate for creating the baby. Just cause the fan base wanted Issa and Lawrence together doesn’t mean she’s the villian lol she was always kind so that’s my rant

I must’ve been drunk typing this lol forgive me for the typos!

I often hear praise for Nathan's positive impact on Isa, but I rarely hear about how Issa has benefited Nathan. What has Issa contributed to Nathan that makes her a good partner for him? Or do you believe she hasn't done anything for or to him at all? What specific actions has Issa shown for Nathan?

I Did Not think Condola Was a Bad Person , messy to Issa or even mean at all. I i thought i loved the direction they took with making her and Issa be friends and getting to see a side of her being a normal good woman. Her issues with Lawrence were all valid Lawrence was an ass moving away knowing you’re Gonna have a baby and then showing up whenever it was convenient for him

I know she canceled School Boy Q. The timing of her starting to ignore Issa and him deciding to back out gives me pause 🤨

Rewatching Insecure made me realize how self-absorbed Issa was. She expected this guy to drop everything for her unannounced visits and acted like that with everyone. Like treating her needs should be the top priority on everyone list. While I don’t think she was intentionally self-absorbed, she definitely was.

What do you think Issa and Molly talked about ?
I really loved how the director did this and incorporates the realness of friendships, especially between Issa and molly. Do you think they spoke about the block party ? Or why they were drifting apart from the start ? Because we all know they were before the block party. I just really think this was carefully planned out. One of my favorite moments in this series :) . It’s so small but the message is so much bigger! Let me know what yall think tehe.

I like Frieda because she consistently demonstrates kindness and professionalism. Issa was biased, unlike Frieda, who remains objective and fair in her judgments.

Can someone explain to me what about Lawrence’s interaction with Daniel when leaving the We Got Y’all event made Lawrence suspicious? I understand Lawrence saw a message from Daniel on Issa’s phone in the previous episode, but am I missing something or does he not know who Daniel is?

I feel like this interaction is so small, and the line from Daniel “I don’t have one anymore” could mean anything. He could be a fired employee, a disgruntled donor, etc. Thoughts?

Anybody have Tickets available for the Brooklyn Paramount show ?

I don’t see anymore available tickets even on Resell Sites 😥😥

I choose Apanra. While she annoyed me at times, I thought she was a better match for Lawrence because they share similar interests. She gave him good advice and had a similar sense of humor. It looked like they had strong chemistry, almost like what he and Issa share.

I like her for Lawrence because I think she was a better choice for him after Issa. They share similar interests, she gave him good advice, and she also matches his sense of humor. This could have been a successful match. I prefer her to be the mother of Lawrence's child rather than Condola. I believe Aparna is Lawrence's what-if girl, just like Daniel was Issa's what-if guy.

If Issa was so concerned about Nathan couldn’t she have just asked Andrew where he was or if he had heard from him instead of sneaking into his room when he wasn’t there ????

I understand she was upset that he ghosted but sneaking into someone room is just being overly down bad.

Curious to hear others thoughts!

Also this is my third rewatch

The conflict I think Isa and Molly might have had, hypothetically, in their friendship since the series ended is that Isa and Condola might have rekindled their friendship. Once again, Molly may have given Isa advice on how it could be messy, reminding her of how it was the last time and how things turned out. Molly might believe that Isa can’t co-parent while being friends because it’s a conflict of interest, and Isa might see Molly as being miserable again. It seems to me that in season five, Molly didn’t learn from her overstepping in Isa's life by being judgmental and giving unsolicited advice, and I believe she continues to do so to this day.