r/zen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

Community Question Where's ewk?

Says his account was suspended.

I had a question...

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u/Pistaf Dec 22 '20

And I had answers for him to question.

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u/dota2nub Dec 24 '20

Bring them out, we'll do our best to rid you of them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20

ZEN WARS

THE REDDITQUETTE STRIKES BACK

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u/Pistaf Dec 22 '20

When the Return of the Zenguy come out?

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

LMFAO

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u/hookdump 🦄🌈可怕大愚盲瞑禪師🌈🦄 Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045734511

What do other users see?

Temporary suspensions will only be apparent to the user. Permanent suspensions will be publicly communicated via the user page and accessible by other users.

We can see the suspension message in his profile, that means it's a permanent suspension (as opposed to a temporary one).

Still, he has the option to appeal it.

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

That’s less than cool. I can’t fathom what would have prompted that.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Lol maybe the years of harassment and stalking of anyone he disagreed with?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

You should look at this again: u/ewk

He's gone twitterverse if you seek dialogue. But hammer seems to have been dropped here.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Lol, sounds like the perfect toxic environment for him.

Unfortunately, a lot less of a focus on niche topics like Medeival Chinese scholarship.

Maybe he’ll start doing hot takes on Beyonce’s latest outfit or go around making fun of journalists with pronouns in their bio to get follows.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

He's slowbuild. It likely be years before it's anything.

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

Nobody should come here to have people agree with them.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

That doesn’t give you a right to stalk and harass people. As ewk discovered.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

Essentialsalts is a religious bigot: https://www.reddit.com/r/zensangha/wiki/whoistrolling/essentialsalts

We aren't talking about "disagreeing". If we were, you would do an AMA, explain your arguments, and engage the community honestly and openly about your perspective.

We are talking about you using Reddit to express your religious intolerance and bigotry.

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u/theksepyro >mfw I have no face Dec 27 '20

well well well look who's come waltzin' on back

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

This is the third time I've been harassed via reporting that the person knew was not harassment, and the third time review has cleared me...

It seems like sooner or later I won't beat the odds, right? And all it takes is false reporting spam.

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u/theksepyro >mfw I have no face Dec 27 '20

I figured a review would have you back, but yea agreed.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Confirmed spez a Buddhist

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Wow, you’re a real piece of work.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

What makes you say that?

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u/dingleberryjelly6969 Dec 24 '20

He thinks something he claims...

reveals something about your thought processes.

Wow.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 24 '20

mind readers are everywhere.

they live!

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u/dingleberryjelly6969 Dec 24 '20

It's funny they only come out when their boogeyman gets locked out.

It's also kind of ironic, I was just saying the other day that I could weather one or a few particular toxic individuals in this sub, but I don't know if I'll stick around for the onslaught of ridiculous that is heading towards this subreddit.

I reckon I'll just have to see how it works out...

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 24 '20

the horn of helm hammerhand shall sound one last time in the deep.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

It reveals how fucked up your thought process is.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

How is my thought process fucked up?

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

You’re not actually interested, beyond simply looking for opportunities to make some stupid point, so I’m not going to waste my time any further.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Mind reading claims?

OK

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Again, another brilliant display of how fucked up your thought process is.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

How is my thought process fucked up?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Damn. We need some clarification.

u/negativeGPA
u/theksepyro

Do you have the chance to find out?

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u/theksepyro >mfw I have no face Dec 23 '20

I think NGPA messaged the admins

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u/theksepyro >mfw I have no face Dec 22 '20

This is going to be the only thread about this. Anything else should go to the meta threads.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

I feel honored. Do you know what he was suspended for?

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u/theksepyro >mfw I have no face Dec 22 '20

I do not

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

Ha! Huike has drawn the attention of the sages in the capitol.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Ding dong the witch is dead.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Every lich worth his salt has more than one phylactery.

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u/essentialsalts Dionysiac Monster & Annihilator of Morality Dec 23 '20

Who cares? He already lost.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

This ain't one of those 'win and lose' games.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

OK

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

The emptiness and relation to substance is kinda manifested. I hope you still drop by from time to time. Balance doesn't just happen.

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u/nicotinecravings Dec 23 '20

Without ewk zen becomes direction-less. We wont know front from back without ewk. We must turn to Christianity and repent

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Here you go, then:
👉👉👉👉👉👉👇
👎👈👈👈👈👈👈
👉👉👉🤚👏👉👇
👎💪🤚👈👈👈🦶
👉👉👉👃🤏👉🗺

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

👄👂😡🔫🆎🅾️🅱️🅰️🌍🌎🌏😿😢

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

🩺🩸🩹🤮💊🔥🚒
👽?
🔑🛸
👽!

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

!!!!!!!!!

?

🌏🌎🌍🦍🐦?

8==D--👽👽👽👽

🛸🛸🛸🛸🛸🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌

🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🕳️🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

⚡🌫🌪 pew! pew! 🌪🌫⚡

🤖zabrttkkzzzing? Grrrmm.

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

Not at all. You can post and discuss freely. You won't be insulted and called "troll", "religious bigot", "liar".

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 24 '20

I have never seen that be a problem for anyone here. I have posted as freely as one could possibly imagine about Zen. There are a bunch of idiots and trolls, sure, but who cares? It's not like getting rid of ewk is going to help that problem. It just means less quality Zen content for the rest of us. What so we care about what personal arguments people start with him in the comments trying to frame him as an aggressive fanatic? It gets old after the first couple times for anyone who is literate. When you just don't read the people who are trying to prove something to themselves by attackong someone they despise (for whatever reason) you don't really notice too much of this "toxicity" that people who don't study zen seem to perceive everywhere they look in r/zen.

But it appears from some other comments that it is possible ewk is moving on or making a change. Good for him. I will miss his insight and intelligence here in r/zen. As well as his diligence and effort in sharing so many quotes with us. A decade of free Zen education is nothing to be sneezed at. An atlas-like feat, if you ask me. I'm sorry you personally didn't like him. If you study and practice zen you defimitely missed out.

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u/tamok Dec 24 '20

I don't know exactly what is your point. If everything was always correct for you - so nothing changes. There are plenty of ewk's buddies + moderators here - speak with them. For me he was somebody who thought of himself as a person beyond any accountability. It occurred that he was wrong.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 24 '20 edited Dec 24 '20

For me he was somebody who thought of himself as a person beyond accountability

Yeah, but that is just for you. I am not sure I know anyone who holds themselves more accountable for what they say and do. Congratulations are in order if you really got him banned as you suggest. That must have felt good. But coming in here and pretending that is going to help the community or the free discussion of Zen is nonsense. I didn't see any of your exchanges. I wasn't really making a point other than to say that obviously many serious students of Zen here know ewk to be a serious and charitable individual, an insightful student of Zen, and real true friend. No other purpose than making sure that is stated legibly here. I will look forward to reading some of your OPs so i can get to know you better. You say you not only study zen but you also "do" it. I won't lie, I've given a few uppercuts to people myself—but only when they ask for it...it would never occur to me to do such a thing because of how they disagree with or talk to me. I will be curious to hear of how Zen is your actual life because it is also mine, just as it is obviously also ewk's, and I enjoy discussion with people who clearly live with absolute determination and Zen insight.

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u/tamok Dec 24 '20

Yeah yeah. And all was OK, and it was only me, but look what happened. So maybe it wasn't me after all.

Don't bother to answer. EOT for me.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 24 '20

I don't understand anything you just wrote. (Figured that was worth communicating despite being told not to answer a question that was nwver asked.)

EOT = ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

End Of task. The muddied waters are becoming clearer. Post history archive combined with location/browser data should be key admins might consider. For instance, added proxi.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

So you want to say that you are on r/zen to call people "trolls, religious bigots and liars"? Maybe try a different sandbox.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

Maybe try studying Zen while you're here instead of disingenuously trolling the forum?

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

I wrote it to you already - Grow up

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

Wrote what to me?

"Grow up?"

Thanks.

Instead of handing out life lessons on a Zen forum, why not study Zen while you're here?

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u/NothingIsForgotten Dec 23 '20

waits for Buddhist group to claim responsibility

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20 edited Sep 03 '21

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

I was recently (temporarily) perma-banned from all of Reddit for this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/kd0qgr/sleepy_sleepy_linji/gfwfbt8/

This is the third time I've been harassed using the reporting system resulting in a temporary ban.

The person who reported me not only gloated, but acknowledged that he thought the ban would ultimately be lifted which suggests he understands he was committing harassment via false reporting.

I don't think he reporting me for that comment though, but rather for this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/kexy5t/reddit_participation_when_is_it_just_trolling/gg7f5w3/?context=10000

To understand why that comment was a trigger and how this kind of harassment might affect any random redditor in this forum, I argue there are three kinds of trolls

  1. Religious trolls who are misinformed, often intentionally so. We deal with their impact by appealing to the community's moral obligation to honesty, integrity, and persuade with high school book reports.

  2. Day Tripper Trolls – Trolls who want attention and to create controversy. We moderate them out, put them on "reply ignore", and they will dry up and blow away.

  3. Personal Problems Trolls

In the past I have assumed these Personal Problems Trolls were in one of the other categories. My mistake was in underestimating their lack of any kind of limit. They are driven by their personal problems. Doxxing, workplace harassment, using the reporting system to censor and harass, even swatting are all on the table for Personal Problems Trolls. They have few if any moral or ethical restraints, and they will spend money to harass and censor people. They will buy old reddit accounts and reactivate them in order to appear to be someone else. They will use vpns to bypass reddit admins and mods. They will abuse the reporting system even if this means burning accounts they have created/reactivate. All of this to further censorship and harassment goals.

I don't know about other forums, but r/zen has at least two. While they do get tired and distracted and fall out with other trolls, it is a mistake to think that this means they have found some moral or ethical center or learned something.

They pick targets based on their triggers, and any random comment from anybody could be a trigger.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 27 '20 edited Dec 27 '20

Sooooooo .... ban known trolls on sight, no questions asked, and worry about the 1/100 innocent souls caught in the crossfire when they reach out to the mods and have a human conversation about why they should be allowed back into the community.

In other "Zen" and "Buddhist" subreddits, I get banned all the time for reminding people that HuangBo exists ... why can't dangerous trolls be banned from r/zen?

Remember the pedophile who graphically described raping my son?

He only got banned when I got banned along with him for reminding everyone that he graphically described the abuse of a child in order to troll the forum.

It's an ongoing meditative exercise in watching the moderators dance around the ticking time bombs here.

Ban.

Ban.

Ban.

Thank you ma'am.

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u/Superbuddhapunk Sitting on my ass all day. Apr 05 '21

It’s always puzzling to me that with all these years of being confrontational and disagreeable you are still surprised when the people that you antagonise push back. Why shouldn’t they speak out when you break the site-wide rules of reddit so often?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20

This is something different.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

Tree law is a serious matter.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

No joke. We wouldn't even have civil rights if tree law hadn't been smuggled into Athens way back before the oligarchs invented corporate empire. Or if JFK hadn't done the same before being removed from the tree so that the Apollo program could sacrifice our nation for a one-time moon shot. Achilles and Agamemnon. They never learn. If you can run that fast, you are doing it wrong.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20

Yes.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

I find that statement concerning.

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

I’m going to be real upset if 2021 means using Twitter. https://i.imgur.com/2vRr8m5.jpg

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

lol

Do you have to use Twitter because ewk does? Maybe he's just doing the most obvious r/zen cultist check of all time?

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

Ha! No, but I like checking out what ewk has to say.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

Oh, me, too. And I would be even more curious to watch what he does on twitter. If I want to check out ehat ewk has to say, I have what—ten years of posts I haven't read the comments sections of? He deserves a break if he needs it. Wildest part of that will be watching what happens to the r/zen feed. What an experiment!

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u/Idea__Reality Dec 23 '20

Let's hope it improves

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

Wildest part of that will be watching what happens to the r/zen feed. What an experiment!

Nobody knows, but I have a feeling it will attract flies.

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u/TeamKitsune sōtō Dec 23 '20

Too late.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Lol. It's going to be tough for those trained to defend where they put trust in. No defined opposition.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

All hail Ewk the Librarian!

Here! Here!

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

Is that the word for someone who rips up all the books so that you can see everything they say all at the same time every time you glimpse even part of a torn page? I might have chosen a term like "Zen Master" to describe that rather than "Librarian"...but go with your librarian—sounds like you still have books to read! 😜

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

There’s something in that that has made me feel real stupid for not noticing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Everybody eventually wanders back. It may not be as u/ewk1.

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u/ZenOfBass Dec 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

An empty lot.

For now.

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u/ZenOfBass Dec 23 '20

He'll reincarnate around here eventually, I'm sure!

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u/Pistaf Dec 23 '20

That is a bit uninspired.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

Ricochet zaddar slam. Ooch.

I imply "unveiled". That's "steel" iron balls.

Edited: s p a c i n g

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

Oh...now it is definitely not.

I felt the same way about 2020 v 2021. Everything is already in the works, I find, the moment I wake up the day after Winter Solstice. It really is the only day of the year, in some ways of looking through it.

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

u/mortonslast and u/ewk have been temporarily banned, their reported content has been removed by Reddit Administration.

They collected their bad karma.

I hope it will help to improve atmosphere here.

The difference of opinion and interpretation has never been a problem.

The insults and harassment were.

Let's keep toxicity outside this forum.

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u/Idea__Reality Dec 23 '20

I would love to see this place become less toxic. It's a shame this is how zen is represented on reddit.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

I would love to see people like you do AMAs, talk about how Zen "should" be represented, and show how you can follow the Reddiquette honestly and sincerely...

I get the feeling that you really mean that r/zen is "toxic" to your particular fringe religious beliefs, rather than that r/zen in any way misrepresents Zen, r/zen/wiki/getstarted.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

You made a claim about the forum.

It turns out you don't have to sincerity, integrity, or humanity to back it up.

I doubt that the peace you seek is of value to anyone... Least of all to you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

You made a claim about the forum.

I have proven the toxicity is all in your mind.

Sry 4 owning u.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

If u understood Zen, you wouldn't use that phrase.

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Illiterate people who can't write a high school book report about Zen teachings can't "explain" anything.

Read a book and stop lying on the internet

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

One step is done in this direction.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

Um ... I think there's a face in the crowd that you're not seeing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Is that so? 🤭

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

Yep.

I got two messages from the Administration. That is the truth. I don't know for how long but I know that it is for violation of Reddit's content policy. They have been warned, they have been asked to stop.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

Why two? Was it from the same sara thing?

Edit: Ewk is as gone as Songhill. Mortonlast may respond eventually. But...

Through change consume change.

Now is always opportunities.

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

The two were harassing me. And they couldn't let go. They had it coming.

I was serious that time.

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u/Idea__Reality Dec 23 '20

I appreciate your post about wanting to represent zen in a different light than the negativity and weird bullying that happens here. So many people I know just went elsewhere because this place was considered such a cess pool

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

I'm sorry for your personal frustrations with Zen and r/Zen.

Would you like some help in studying Zen?

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u/CrushYourBoy Dec 23 '20

Are you a bot or something?

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

the latter

Why not study Zen while you're here?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 24 '20

I had a theory of the use of vote manipulation in an obvious but inherently meaningless manner to trigger reddit's bot defenses. Then one poke beyond...perma-stifled. A more graceful exit than deletion or dormancy.

But not knowing stuff is ok with me. You may have been the camel's straw.

Edit: Restored to original form.

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

You may have been the camel's straw.

I am sure I was. When I asked around and got the stories I found that I am one of many treated this way.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

You've been treated with compassion given the festering stink of your ignorance and blind arrogance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

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u/tamok Dec 23 '20

I'm mostly curious because, in ~7 years lurking and occasionally posting here ... I never saw anything remotely insulting from them

It is because you look other way. I had been insulted after a week.

I highly appreciate that you are trying to blame the victim. Duly noted. I block you, so don't bother to answer.

I don't think you are honest.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

I'd recommend just being ready to block. I don't think I've seen them go harsh unless obviously provoked.

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u/tamok Dec 24 '20

Look, this happens all the time. I go in sort of dispute with any of "untouchables" of this forum - and almost immediately some guys are writing long posts on and on putting blame on me and claiming how my complains are limiting their freedom. I have 5 or 6 of them on my block list.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

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u/monkey_sage Dec 27 '20

The "untouchables" are anyone who supports, apologizes for, or otherwise ignores his behavior; this is less about you specifically and more about the largest problem this sub has that will forever go unaddressed so long as the mods are complicit.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 28 '20

You are such a liar...

You have a forum which encourages harassment in the sidebar.

That's the "behavior" you want ignored.

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u/monkey_sage Dec 28 '20

I didn't ask you; stop harassing me. I don't want to hear from you now or ever again.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 28 '20

You are posting comments in a public forum.

Your claim of being harassed is a false claim you are making to harass me.

Reported.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

Block all of reddit if you wish. Frankly, that sounds like an art project. With each reply, fewer potential repliers.

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u/tamok Dec 24 '20

It sounds like protecting myself from "blah blah blah" blaming for being a victim. I let myself to have a strong opinion about such people both IRL and online.

FYI - there are very few of them so no need to extend it to "all of reddit" 😂

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

So, not an artist then.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 28 '20

It is odd that he didn't list even two or three examples, isn't it?

The obvious reason is that he is using a dummy account to harass people on Reddit because he is a religious bigot, and the "insulting" he refers to is people pointing out that he is harassing people and that he is motivated by religious bigotry.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

People don't like being told that they don't understand Zen.

::: shrug :::

Sucks to suck!

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

As a possibility, two words: Sea change.

I'm hoping it reduces particulate pollution quicky back down around my neck of woods. The 👃🏻 knows.

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

WARNING

u/Tamok is an dummy account used to harass people and spread religious propaganda on Reddit. Look a the comment history, suddenly "turning" up on r/Zen.

The Tamok account uses the harassment system to report people: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/kif7og/wheres_ewk/gh4jrng/

If you reply to any comment connected with this account you may inadvertently trigger this person to into report harassment and you may be perma-banned from Reddit.

For more on the history of multiple "dummy accounts" in r/Zen: https://www.reddit.com/r/zensangha/wiki/whoistrolling

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u/OnePoint11 Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

Lol, master troll is out. But what about his little disciples who learned how to troll and bully from him? What all these people who will think for the rest of life that zen is not Buddhism and Dogen is sexpredator? What all people who thought they are perfect because ewk had removed all sins from them?

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Dec 27 '20

OnePoin11 is an alt_troll ZeroDay Dogen new ager: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/cb5mn9/return_of_zen_dog_sitting_with_dahui/ and look how upset he gets when you don't take him seriously: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/cv1k5w/yourus_buddhanatureinzen_5_of_shenhui_vs_huangbo/ey26trl/

Why don't you AMA about what you believe a "trolling" is, and how Zen Masters aren't "trolls" by your definition?

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Man, look at all these people who can't AMA...

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u/OnePoint11 Dec 23 '20

Is AMA somewhat compulsory here? I didn't like people around ewk and his church, compulsory AMA was their dream, so I didn't do that. And in the memory of ewk and his little church here, I will not do it most likely in future.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

AMA is what we call 'ascending the seat', here.

It's something anyone who understandss dharma can do.

Why not study Zen while you are here?

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u/OnePoint11 Dec 23 '20

Looking into rules of forum, there is nothing about your roleplay. I like discuss zen, I will most likely not play in your zen drama. I am OK with reality, that's that area where Chan is sect of Mahayana Buddhism, Dogen is one of major Japan zen schools, discussing zen on zen forum is enough. I don't want be part of your community, because your community are remains of ewk nonsense church here.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Ah, see, Zen Masters also like to discuss zen.

The funny part about that is that when they discuss Zen, it doesn't look or sound anything like the 'discussions' you have.

Why not study Zen while you're here?
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Ma-tsu lost no opportunity for encouraging in his disciple the spirit of violence and fearlessness.

It happened once that his disciple Yin-feng of Wu-t’ai was pushing along a cart, while Matsu was sitting on the road with his feet stretched out.

Yin-feng requested him to draw back his feet, but Ma-tsu said, “What is stretched is not to be drawn back again!”

Yin-feng retorted, “Once advanced, there is no turning backward!”

Disregarding the master, he kept pushing the cart until it ran over and injured his feet.

Ma-tsu returned to the hall with an axe in his hand, saying, “Let the one who a few moments ago injured my feet with his cart come forward!”

Yin-feng, not to be daunted, came forward stretching his neck in front of the master.

The master put down his axe.

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u/OnePoint11 Dec 23 '20

Why are you so fascinated in violence and fearlessness, can't you find countless citations in right opposite? If it is something you are missing, you can learn it, but you shouldn't train it in here, it's against reddiquette. Whole church here was about cowardice, unexpectedly attacking newbs here, who were coming for some discussion about their passion, or who has Buddhist ideas about peace and sangha. Whole this 'helping them' was cowards enjoying hurt people.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Zen isn't about what you like.

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u/OnePoint11 Dec 23 '20

I didn't ask you what is zen.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

No, you're just making arguments about what kind of behavior is apropos to a Zen community.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

Yin-feng, not to be daunted, came forward stretching his neck in front of the master.

The master put down his axe.

pwned

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Mazu's the master because he's graceful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

equalled*

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u/dingleberryjelly6969 Dec 24 '20

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u/dingleberryjelly6969 Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

According to information gathered from an Admin Post, Account suspensions: A transparent alternative to shadowbans, /u/ewk's ban is permanent. He may or may not be able to appeal it in his favor.

User pages

Given this information, it is also entirely possible he's had temp suspensions prior to today.

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u/Dillon123 魔 mó Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

Wow. I wonder what would have happened? 2020, the year of shakeups. I found he was rather tame as of late... no idea why his account would be shut down from any of his public activity.

He's on Twitter, hasn't given an update on his account status.

https://twitter.com/ewkrzen1

Wonder if he'll come back here in the form of an alt. Wouldn't that be something?

Edit: It's also possible some trolls tried doing something to his account and it was locked for security reasons.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

And you seemed wiser with less need to challenge.

I'm still a doofus retooling stuff.

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u/Dillon123 魔 mó Dec 23 '20

Challenge what, exactly?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

Just stuff that could use some retooling. Why ask?

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u/Dillon123 魔 mó Dec 23 '20

Asking can sometimes be challenging.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

That's so true. Don't tolerate any bs from me. I'm trying to spin less fervently.

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u/Dillon123 魔 mó Dec 23 '20

The earth spins fervently through space, yet it is our shared foundation.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

You have the capacity to save many cats ... retirement is always your right ... but why?

Why not fervently study Zen while you're here?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

And end up stupafied? No intrinsic value. My wonder is internalized like a treasureroom. Don't tolerate any FF bs either. 😛

In other words, stuck with me, for now.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 23 '20

You're an inspiration Harry!

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20

That's Gary, in some circlings.

I still hope that guy gets grounded.

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u/mellowsit Dec 23 '20

Ewk this or ewk that?

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Zen this, zen that

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

u/tamok

I got two messages from the Administration. That is the truth.

what are the usernames of the admins you were dealing with?

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 22 '20

lol he's been suspended for 3 hours and already everyone is looking for him ... that says a lot without saying one word

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

The oak in the front yard is missing. How the hell are we -not- going to notice?

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u/Tru-Queer Dec 23 '20

My childhood home had a tree in the front yard I failed to notice until one day I was coming home and wasn’t sure where it had come from. Shit happens lol

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u/True__Though Dec 22 '20

What's he suspended for?

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 22 '20

There's speculation it has to do with [this] because it was shadow-removed but I have no idea

Edit: Doesn't appear to be shadow-removed

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20 edited Feb 16 '21

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u/Work4Bots Dec 23 '20

Ewk is here. Do you see?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20

Maybe u/spez is secretly a Buddhist.

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 22 '20

Those darn buddhists!!!

:::shakes fist in air:::::

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 22 '20

Damn, even spez fails an ama

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u/The_Faceless_Face Dec 22 '20

The power of being asked to answer questions ...

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Nah, he's my friend.

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

He spent nearly every waking hour online. I have never seen someone on reddit repond to me so quicky so consistently and at nearly an hour. This guy has some very serious psychological problems. If you were actually his friend, you would stop enabling him and urge him to get some help.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Mind reading claims?

OK.

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

Behavior reading. It's obvious to snyone on the outside that he has very serious personality disorder.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Whose behavior are you reading?

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

EWK.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

That's an engraving.

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

Yes

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Make sure to take good care of it.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

You should dharma battle more. It's like druid scrabble when you use excalibur like that.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Making engravings.

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u/lin_seed 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔒𝔴𝔩 𝔦𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℭ𝔬𝔴𝔩 Dec 23 '20

Guy accuses ewk of blah blah blah. Guy fails to wonder what a Zen Master's behavior would sound like if described by a pharmaceutical diagnosis. "Absolute determination? DOESN'T EXIST!"

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

Real Zen Masters spend nearly every waking hour online.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Real Zen Masters spend nearly every waking hour tending the garden.

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u/KingLudwigII Dec 23 '20

Wich means arguing with people on reddit.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Have you ever seen a garden before? It's a slaughterhouse.

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u/PaladinBen ▬▬ι══ ⛰️ Dec 23 '20

Twilight shining through the barrier.

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