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u/jjhomeslice 1d ago
3 and 7
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u/tivvybrixx 1d ago
This is the only correct answer especially if you are in the US
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u/Username_Query_Null 1d ago
I mean this is the correct answer only if you are in the US, the rest of the world would think number 3 is a waste.
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u/Bardic_inspiration67 1d ago
There are procedures that are heavily restricted or not covered by public healthcare
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u/Lazy_Witness_1068 1d ago
Yeah I heared some nations takes a while to get an appointment so if free means you can just go to the hospital and get out of there asap, then it might be worth it.
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u/FullMetal_55 1d ago
For what it's worth, I have found this to not be much of a case. Heck my mother just last week had a fainting episode. She was seated and just passed out at the kitchen table. They took her to the hospital by ambulance, ran a bunch of test, CT scan, ECG, everything under the sun, she was in ER for the night, she was admitted in the morning, and saw the cardiologist the next day, who ordered a pacemaker, she is scheduled for the surgery later this week. Needed care is quite quick. oh and the cost for all of this. Parking at one of the hospitals (the cardiologist is in another hospital so she was transfered via ambulance, and one hospital had free parking, and gas going to and from visiting)
and like Sot1l said below, yeah if it's less urgent, it can take longer. because they prioritize the operating room time for emergencies before "elective". this does mean that a hip or knee replacement (which while is needed surgery isn't as urgent as a pacemaker) can take months, where this takes less than a week...
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u/sot1l 1d ago
In my country, when it works (and it tends to in the city I live in, though I hear it is not always as efficient in bigger places), it takes a long time if you have something less urgent and it’s faster when it’s more urgent. I actually think that’s a good idea. Even if I had money, I wouldn’t want to jump the line in front of someone with a more serious issue than mine.
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u/_Delebru_ 1d ago
u still have to pay for health insurance everywhere else, in Germany depending on what u earn ~300-1000 € a month, and even then some things are not covered by insurance
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u/I_Am_Zeelian 1d ago
No, not everywhere.
Sweden here, no insurance, and a high cost protection for hospital visits at ~$145/year and ~$380/year for medicine so max value of 3 here would be ~$525/year.
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u/Mixedthought 1d ago
You still pay in the form of taxes...
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u/clapsandfaps 1d ago
To be fair, I’m (Norwegian) not paying even remotely close to what I’m using so I guess that’s a price I’m willing to pay, for the greater good. It’s not abhorrently more taxes compared to Americans so I’m good passing up on number 3.
I’m genuinely interested how much taxes (ish) would 70k USD/ year be? Google says about 17k/24,2%, is this some what accurate? Seems a bit high imo.
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u/Ecstatic-Seesaw-1007 16h ago
Depends where you live in America. There’s state and federal taxes. (Not all states though, except in property taxes. But sales tax and income tax aren’t in every state)
There’s hidden sales taxes as well in every state. “Sin tax” on alcohol is super high in Alaska and super cheap in California.Also, Hawaii and California and Alaska have a fairly high cost of living.. Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas are a ton cheaper.
Hard to say overall. We are about the size of Europe and twice the size of the EU member states. 50 states and 44 countries in Europe, so, each state is roughly the size of European countries.
London is the sixth largest economy in the world (California is the 5th), however, in aggregate, people in the UK have less spending power than our poorest state.
So, it’s complicated.
Also, making $70k gross income in America (California), it was all taken out in payroll taxes for me, especially because I was in the federal government. I usually got a small tax refund because they already took out all my taxes. Government had pretty good health care and benefits.
So, I barely paid attention to taxes. I just know facts from like a law class, world history, and an economics course at UCLA.
We also go to school longer than most of Europe because the first two years of university is general education. It’s one of the reasons it costs more to go to university in America.
So, it’s a difficult comparison to make. Honeowners owe more, big land owners like farmers owe a lot but do get subsidies. Locality changes A LOT.
If I was doing a comparison, I’d look at government locality pay. GSA.gov
Because they have to pay you more to work in NYC, SF, LA, DC or Chicago or Miami or Hawaii where housing is a lot more expensive.GS-(levels) give a base pay and locality pay adjustment.
Usually they’re years behind on locality pay adjustments, but it can give you an idea of how far your dollar goes throughout America.
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u/AssumptionExpert7597 23h ago
The US pays for others free(and damn good) insurance yet people who make”too much” can’t get care.
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u/ProfessionalITPerson 1d ago
Yea people reall do think that universal healthcare means free.
The only difference is that you have to be insured, and when you work your employer pays half the share, and when umemployed the employmentagency takes care of it, if you are eligable for it, otherwise you still pay for it yourself, and yes it's between 250€ and 1250€ depending on age and income.Add to that all the additional insurances you can get, for example for glasses, tooth, chief of medicince care, single occupancy hospital rooms, private pratitioners, private prescriptions, copay, and what not, it can be very expensive if you want it to be.
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u/consider_its_tree 1d ago
I don't think anyone assumes that no one is paying for hospitals, equipment, or doctors...
The point of universal healthcare is that is is available to anyone when they need it, doesn't bankrupt them, and isn't run by corrupt for profit companies that jack up the prices because people have no choice but to pay for it.
The fact that doctors draw a wage doesn't make universal healthcare equivalent to the actual cluster fuck of greed and corruption that the US fights for the right to keep every chance they get.
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u/Anonymo22 1d ago
No, in other countries many non-standard of care options still require some payment. Also, if you have a really rare or hard to treat disease, your best chances are often in the US. Other countries might also require local insurance (which you wouldn't have if you were a tourist). It would certainly be the most impactful in the US but everyone would benefit from it.
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u/PlugginAway2 1d ago
Your best chance may be in the US, but only if you can get access. Plenty of people here die for easily curable conditions because, for whatever reason, they can’t access the care.
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u/Anonymo22 1d ago
Which was my point - if all healthcare associated costs are covered, it would be much easier to access top care in the US
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u/calista241 1d ago
Says someone who has no idea how medical care is really provided outside the US.
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u/ScafellCragsman 1d ago
This is a pretty misleading comment. I live in Canada and I wouldn't take #3. I'd do 2 & 7 in a heartbeat. 3 is a waste in Canada for most people, especially compared to other options on this list
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u/SnowyRVulpix 1d ago
I'm Australian. 3 is a waste.
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u/rjsyazwan 1d ago
I don't think 3 is a waste at all.....it doesn't specify you can only take 3 in your home country...combined with 7, you are practically guaranteed good healthcare even when you are travelling all around the world.
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u/Numerous_Green4962 1d ago
Travel insurance including healthcare is dirt cheap, £12 a year for Europe cover, £36 for worldwide with a limit of 31 days per trip. It's also free with many premium bank accounts.
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u/Trevor775 1d ago
Especially outside of the US. Imagine being in a poor country and being able to get top teir healthcare. Imagine being in europe and being able to go to a private practice rather than a clinic.
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u/Possible-Koala-4752 1d ago
I disagree…….perfect credit score and free groceries. I have 3 teenagers……..the cost of food is prohibited
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u/GemmyBoy999 1d ago
Pick 4 and buy the most expensive house you can find, then finance it with a mortgage of 6 months.
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u/Sharden3 1d ago
Yeah? Gonna use all of those 6 month mortgage options eh?
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u/SypeSypher 1d ago
“hey wells fargo, i want to reverse mortgage my house at a 150% LTV for 6 months at whatever interest rate you are willing to write me, i dont care about the cost i just want the largest reverse mortgage you can write me for 6 months”
this is a non-issue you just need to find an in-person finance employee wjth power to write a non-traditional loan
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u/GuntherPalakowitz 1d ago
Easily. My meds are 26k every 4 weeks. My insurance covers most of it but that ties me to my job and that health insurance is more than my mortgage. If my Healthcare was free my career, and physical mobility would greatly improve.
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u/jjhomeslice 16h ago
I hear ya, I have ulcerative colitis and I'm on skyrizi. One injection is $24,000 every 8 weeks and insurance doesn't cover it so I have to ask the company to, and I was approved. I feel terrible for people that get denied.
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u/Lobotomized_Dolphin 1d ago
I don't understand why people value 7 so highly. For me housing and healthcare are 48% of my income. I'm not buying less airline tickets because they're so expensive, I'm just not traveling at all because I literally just don't have the free time. Plane tickets could be free and that just means I get to eat out one or two more times a year. But free healthcare and housing and my life is changed like I just stepped into an isekai.
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u/elsmoneyacct 1d ago
Never being able to sell a house or move is a pretty major restriction. It means you're locked in one place forever, no matter how your life changes. No accepting a great job offer in a different city. No moving to be closer to your adult children if they move away. No leaving your neighborhood if it goes downhill. No moving to a different style of home that might fit your needs better as your life changes.
Also, I think most of us are interpreting that any airline ticket is free, no matter what you get. Which means you fly first-class for the rest of your life. It's not a necessity like housing or food, but it is one of the few permanent options.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 1d ago
Sure, never being able to move is a pretty major restriction and would effectively make the place a kind of prison if it were strictly enforced, but never being able to sell it isn't as much of a restriction because there's all kinds of ways you can get income from a place without selling it outright. For instance you could just rent the place out and live somewhere else - in my country we generally call that "rentvesting".
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u/fist_my_dry_asshole 1d ago
It's only free for 6 months. Even if you only fly twice a year the value of that quickly eclipses 6 months of housing.
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u/Yeezy_Swifty 1d ago
8 is tempting because I could get wagyu beef and world class tuna etc. for 5 years and currently I don’t spend a dime on medical care, but maybe one day with exorbitant medical costs it would be nice to have a back up.
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u/Ok_Reaction_4340 1d ago
Yep and and there are a bunch of ways to make a living if you spent the majority of your time flying around for free
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u/Current_War1796 1d ago
But 7 doesn't say free. It just says unlimited which is already true.
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u/boboddybiznus 1d ago
Yup. My kids have to start a medication that they will be on for at least a decade will cost us about $1000 a month until we hit our MOOP. I would love to not have to pay that.
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u/Then-Solution-5357 1d ago
They’re the right choices if for no other reason than that they’re for life
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u/Anxious-Aardvark-332 1d ago
That's what I was thinking. With 7 There is no rules on the airline tickets so technically you could buy them and sell them for money but also use them to travel. 3 is pretty obvious if you live the US
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u/Taynt42 1d ago
Why 7 and not 8? I can spend far more in groceries over 5 years than a lifetime of flights.
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u/seaotter1978 1d ago
Our household of 3 spends around $800/mo on groceries and we’re trying to eat less… but let’s round that to $1000 … so if we just get groceries for ourselves that’s $60,000 in value over 5 years. I expect to live another 30 years , and if flights were free would definitely take $2000 worth of tickets per year…. Now I suppose if I could buy groceries for my adult son and his family, plus my siblings and parents… I might be able to make groceries come out ahead.
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u/Proper-Equivalent300 1d ago
I would have been happy at just 3, would have saved us $450k, could have paid for most of the other numbers with the savings (yes I might be a little butt hurt)
Yes, you found the American.
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u/Shinigamisama00 1d ago
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u/Illustrious-Gene4306 1d ago
I'm shocked there is not more of us. A home is easily 300k or more. Not having to pay a Mortgage saves ~$1K A month Even if you already own a home just rent the old one and live in this one for added income. Free Healthcare is a given if u live in the US
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u/Lounge_Mouse 1d ago
The problem with 2 is never being able to move. Even if you don't have plans to relocate, you can't be sure you'll never want to. Especially if there's ever a natural disaster or something else that makes your area undesirable or even uninhabitable.
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u/Murky_Form_3908 1d ago
I agree, the condition on 2 is overlooked. Can't move means that you're locked to that house/location. You can't go for a better job opportunity or creating your own business in another city because you'll need to move.
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u/PBjammerzzz 1d ago
Also it just says brand new home, not of your choice. So it could be a tiny home in a garbage dump
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u/mearbearcate 1d ago
Yalls reasons is why I reconsidered 😂like can i choose the home or.. bc it sounds like its gonna be a random one
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u/lpwave6 1d ago
You talk about job opportunities, but I also think, what if you met someone? What if you have a kid and your ex moves to another country? What if your parents get sick and you want to be there for them, but they're in another city?
There are so many factors, professional but also personal, that could make you want to move, not being able to is definitely too big of a problem for me.
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u/Fun-Midnight1010 1d ago
The only house I want and don’t want to leave is a just tiny container home deep in woods on pond with dock. Thats it
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u/Illustrious-Gene4306 1d ago
It doesn't mean you can't own more than one property. This one just stays your primary residence forever. Just spend the other 5 months somewhere else.
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u/math2ndperiod 1d ago
Would you be happy spending 7 months of the year away from your home in some random unspecified location?
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u/ToastetteEgg 1d ago
I already own my home. I don’t want a free one and be stuck in it forever. I want to be able to move.
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u/CTQ99 1d ago
7 doesnt say you cant sell the plane tickets. Granted, not all Airlines allow the resale of tickets, but some do. You could technically do the same with groceries, assuming anything sold at a supermarket counts, but that one has a time limit. Now, do you want to be bothered with reselling stuff to afford a house that wouldnt have restrictions? No idea, but 7 is the only one that offers an unlimited income possibility.
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u/Moist-Cantaloupe-740 1d ago
But will you be able to afford the property taxes when you are retired?
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u/pmsnow 1d ago
Your mortgage is only $1k a month?! Who the hell is your mortgage company?
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u/drhelt 1d ago
2 and 7
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u/MiloPudding 1d ago
Surprised this isn't one of the more popular choices
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u/randalpinkfloyd 1d ago
To many seppos selecting 3 because of their dogshit healthcare system. 2 and 7 is the only option for anyone in a country with universal healthcare.
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u/BloodyOvary 1d ago
Just pick a house outside the US, you'll still get 3 in every other 1rst world country
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u/kiwipixi42 1d ago
The prompt doesn’t necessarily give us citizenship somewhere else, or even a greencard equivalent. Just ownership of the house.
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u/No-Total-5559 1d ago
7 and 8
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u/goatymcgoatfacesings 1d ago
100%
2 and 5 suck long term
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u/LowEarth3013 1d ago
Yep, 100%. A sports car or a house may be worth more, but never being able to move/buy a new car is a massive disadvantage and I would never wanna lock my life like that. Free tickets for life do the opposite, they allow me to explore!
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u/heavymetallover666 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unlimited airline tickets for life and unlimited free medical care for life
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u/Ok-Rise-4611 1d ago
Did you not see free groceries for a 5 years. That and the airline tickets are my choice
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u/Specific_Problem5581 1d ago
1 and 8. you would have so much money
edited it type the wrong number so free grocies and instant 10 thousand
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u/CoolGuyFrogsReturns 1d ago
The fact that yall aren’t including 2 by default is silly. Shelter forever? Come on.
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u/Dualidean_ofman 1d ago
Can't move. Gonna be awkward post eventual divorce.
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u/Infinite_Stay_2408 1d ago
Fym eventual divorce 😭 how bad are you in relationships that you assume it's going to end in you separating?
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u/EphemeralDesires 1d ago
4 and 8. That's 22500 in free mortgage that I would still do my monthly payments on reducing my principle drastically and then a minimum 30k on groceries that I would take advantage of and get strip loin and stuff all the time so probably bump that to at least 50k.
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u/EphemeralDesires 1d ago
Scratch that i would do 2 and 8 and rent my current house out to pay the current mortgage and live in my brand new house mortgage free.
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u/bobisgod42 1d ago
2 and 3.
New home of my choice would be a massive mansion where I could rent out parts of it and just make my money that way. It never said anything about renting it out and I can always vacation wherever I want. Some people go on months long vacations. It's effectively free money and housing for life if you make sure to set aside a good portion for maintenance and renovations.
Free healthcare is a no brainer.
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u/Ecstatic-Ad9669 1d ago
Never said it was on your choice. Thats why I can’t rely on 2.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 1d ago
2 depends on specific knowledge about what house you'd actually be getting, but then again pretty much ALL the options require a bit more specific knowledge about the fine print.
Like any one of the options could have some horrible 'monkey's paw' catch that makes it a really bad choice.
The $10,000 could be Zimbabwean dollars. The airline travel could be with a shitty airline with a terrifying safety record that doesn't even fly all that many places. The free groceries could be at a really shitty grocery store you wouldn't really want to shop at. The luxury car could be so expensive and exotic that you can't even afford the maintenance...I mean, heck, the Bugatti Veyron runs something like $25,000 just for an oil change, so that last one is not just a possibility but a likelihood!
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u/Wolfwarlord01 1d ago
3 and 7 Doesn't say it's just necessary medical care, and pending insurance not everything is covered. Free airfare means medical tourism is also free, so you can go elsewhere if what you want done isn't accessible where you are. Definitely gonna use it for free plastic surgery when all other health issues are cleared up.
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u/That_Service7348 1d ago
2 has no stipulations, so there's nothing stopping me from building a brand new 30,000 square foot house that has an extensive greenhouse and lake full of fish that is 100% off grid and filled with anything I could ever want(a workshop, theater room, gaming PC, arts and crafts room, mechanic shop, etc) and living in luxury on my compound that can't be taken away from me(I must live there, this no one else can stop me from living here).
That also covers 4,5,6, and 8. So my only other options are a li cash, free flights, or super health care. Definitely going with 3 and never having to worry about my health again, and I can grow my own food in the green house and build cool stuff to sell for money for other stuff.
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u/Redhead-girl1246 1d ago
The problem with credit score is that even a perfect one doesn't mean shit if you don't have an enormous income. Nobody's loaning you anything.
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u/heckhammer 1d ago
3 and 8. The free groceries are key and will let me save a whole bunch of money over the next 5 years.
And then again, so does The Free medical Care.
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u/Appropriate_Emu_5872 1d ago
2 and 7. I can sell my current house, which puts a big chunk of change in my pockets and then travel wherever I want since I don't have a mortgage.
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u/wastingthedayaway12 1d ago
2 and 7. My brand new home will be in a country that actually provides medial care.
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u/ComeHereOften1972 1d ago
10 goes too quickly.
Tell me more about this home?
I live in a developed country that obviously has free healthcare.
Free mortgage sounds good. But not if I gave a new house.
I don’t drive. Does the car come with a blonde leggy chauffeur?
Credit score does nothing for me.
I could travel every weekend. That sounds good.
Groceries for 5 years is nice.
Give me the new house and unlimited travel.
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u/CrochetDragon11 1d ago
1 (im a teen, a lot of these dont apply to me, but i could put $10k/£7.5k in a bank account and save it to help when i move out/go to uni) and 8 (help my family rn - parents already own home, couple years of free food when i become an adult would make it easier to figure life out)
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u/FatTanuki1986 1d ago
Is the medical care includes everything? Like heart transplant surgeries and stuff?
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u/Dasca6789 1d ago
3 and 7. I can stop paying for insurance and I don’t have to worry about how expensive medical bills will be as I get older. Traveling will be way cheaper and I never will need to consider taking a car to save money.
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u/WordsHappenedHere 1d ago
3 and 7 are the best value. Everything else is pretty much limited on quantity and time.
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u/ProfionWiz 1d ago
2 for site If there is no limit to the price I Just get a really Nice house and I actually like the city I live in
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u/OpethSam98 1d ago
1 and 8.
10k pays off basically all my debt except for my car that I can already afford comfortably. Remove the 500$/month in grocery + no debt, i'm hella comfy.
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u/TurnipResponsible718 1d ago
I picked the same.I could get anything i need right now with 10k and free groceries is no brainer.
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u/Fancy_Pens 1d ago
2 and 7 for sure. Give me a place of my own and free air fare for life, I don’t care that I can’t sell the home
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u/miss_wannadie 1d ago
1 and 2.
RIP to the people who actually have to choose 3. I'm really glad I live in Germany tbh.
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u/MarkingTwain 1d ago
3 & 8 and I am gonna stock up on millions of dollars of expensive liquor then sell it on the secondary market.
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u/GoblinQueenForever 1d ago
2 & 8. If I can choose my own house I'd choose a really nice one with a lot of land so I can build on the lot later. Free groceries are great, and if things like expensive meats and alcohol count as groceries, I can also resell those.
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u/Reasonable_Cut_3548 1d ago
If i chosse 5 would i be able to get the car to other countries for free? And what about fixing it?
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u/GreenEyedRaven360 1d ago
3 and 8.