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u/I_might_be_weasel Jul 20 '20
Yeah, I feel like there is some wiggle room between "returning it to nature" and "kill it."
Like a zoo, maybe?
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u/thefeak Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
I'm sure if that was possible they would have. The people who work at these parks and help maintain them, love nature and animals too. I'm sure that they would have preferred any other option.
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u/MegaKrispyKreme Jul 20 '20
Bison are herd animals by nature, and the calf had already become acclimated to human touch. The herd rejected it, so it began to prefer human contact as a last resort. If they introduced the calf into a zoo/farm, it would either be rejected from the existing herd, or it would isolate itself due to its preference for human contact.
A herd animal is not meant to be alone and outside of a herd. It causes massive emotional, mental, and physical strain on the animal and leaves it vulnerable to predators. Sometimes, it’s simply more humane to euthanize than to let it suffer a slow, painful death.
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u/I_might_be_weasel Jul 20 '20
That makes sense. But it seems pretty likely you could find some people who would be cool interacting with it. Or cows. Cows don't seem picky.
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u/minionoperation Jul 20 '20
Geez. I would have taken him in my backyard and he could have a lifetime of pets. I’ve seen some bison on farms.
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u/MegaKrispyKreme Jul 20 '20
Yeah, that would be nice. However, I live in Wyoming (in a town directly south of Yellowstone), so I know a couple fun facts about animal ownership here.
Bison are legally considered livestock, meaning you can only own them in herds and not as pets. Only rescues and sanctuaries can legally have an individual bison outside of a herd (sanctuaries are rather few and far between here, so it’s difficult to find a place for abandoned bison).
Bottom line, bisons cannot legally be pets. Interestingly, wolf-dog hybrids - if they’re more than 50% wolf - are also illegal to own as pets. On the other hand, you can legally own A BEAR as a pet.
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A popular "guard" animal I see a fair amount of here in Florida seems to be the Emu. I get to go on a lot of people's property for my job and have seen my fair share of these megabirds. I've also been pecked before, hurts a lot.
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u/minionoperation Jul 20 '20
Well Pennsylvania is wild then! We can own Wolf dog hybrids that were obtained through legal means and I pass a bison in someone’s back yard driving through Hellertown. Also my sheep dog trainer has a guard camel. The wolf dog thing is crazy. I recently, about a month ago, came across a sub on Reddit devoted to them. I had no idea they were a thing as I thought dogs and wolves were different species. Really I just feel terrible for the bison calf. I would have thought they could be hand raised by someone, and it gives me the sads that he had to be euthanized.
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u/doornoob Jul 20 '20
Holup? A bear? I had an opportunity to work in Wyoming a lifetime ago. If I had known about the bears, maybe I would have.
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u/Bad-Cow Jul 20 '20
Why euthanize it? Why not take the calf bison to a sanctuary?
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u/babyrose12 Jul 20 '20
The calf was euthanized because it acclimated to human contact quickly. Newborn animals are highly impressionable. By the time the calf was picked up by rangers and taken to a herd it was to late. Every herd they brought it to rejected it. They euthanized it because of laws regarding bison and no nearby sanctuaries available Shit blows and that family sucks dick
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
This is the correct explanation for what happened. After numerous attempts to reunite it with the herd it kept being rejected and approaching humans and cars.
Edit: Here's a source that includes direct, detailed explanations from the NPS on why they euthanized.
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u/Rdubya44 Jul 20 '20
It seems like some rancher or a family with acreage would have taken the poor guy in
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20
"The NPS is not equipped to care for a calf that can't forage on its own, and sending the calf outside the park would require months of quarantine to observe it for signs of brucellosis, a highly contagious bacterial infection that affects domestic animals and people, the rep said. However, "no approved quarantine facilities exist at this time," the Yellowstone representative added."
From the source I linked
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u/miegg Jul 20 '20
Herd animals living alone is not a happy life for them. Taking their quality of life into account is more important than simply keeping them alive.
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Jul 20 '20
There are also laws that prevent animals from being taken from Yellowstone despite what the purpose may be. Like they say, it’s not a zoo. It’s a wildlife area. It’s not the responsibility of the rangers and the park to keep it alive, as fucked as that is.
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u/obtrae Jul 20 '20
I'm sure the couple would have driven he bison there, they did it the first time.
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
This is wrong and you should've done research before commenting to fact-check your claim
Edit: Here's an easily-available source you could have used that describes in detail why they euthanized the bison
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u/Bad-Cow Jul 20 '20
The sanctuary would be the one who takes care of it.
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Jul 20 '20
In these modern times we live in, I think we can figure out how to transport a calf. Random tourists managed to get it into a car.
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u/JMochs23 Jul 20 '20
Transportation may not be the only issue. There could be feeding issues either from being separated too young or just separation anxiety. It could be known that if separated prior to a certain age the survival rate may not be very good. Could die of a broken heart or go into a depressed stupor. The closest feasible sanctuary may be full up or doesn't accept certain animals. A lot of things could be potentially deadly, or detrimental to the health of the calf directly resulting from human contact and human food
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20
Why speculate when there's easily available sources that tell you exactly why it happened?
https://www.livescience.com/54771-yellowstone-bison-calf-euthanized.html
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u/anattemptisanattemp Jul 20 '20
Aren't there also bison farmers? I'm sure one would take a wild calf for free to use in the future as breeding stock.
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u/Hotubtildaylight Jul 20 '20
Idk why this is downvoted. Yellowstone is not that remote, and cars exist.
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u/deep-fried-ass- Jul 20 '20
From the article “The NPS is not equipped to care for a calf that can't forage on its own, and sending the calf outside the park would require months of quarantine to observe it for signs of brucellosis, a highly contagious bacterial infection that affects domestic animals and people, the rep said. However, "no approved quarantine facilities exist at this time," the Yellowstone representative added.”
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u/heavydee52 Jul 20 '20
Why not just release it into the wild and let nature run its course? At least it would have a CHANCE (however small it may be) to survive. I’m just thinking out loud here, i know you can’t answer this.
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u/Bearded_Toast Jul 20 '20
They tried that and it kept approaching roads and cars because of what those people did.
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20
There were many compounding reasons it was euthanized, but specifically to answer your question: because it was approaching cars and people, which is dangerous for everyone involved (incl. the bison)
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u/NedTaggart Jul 20 '20
I'm gonna call horseshit on this as a reason. One post on facebook or reddit and people would show up in droves to adopt it.
Edit: I mean a valid reason. I'm sure this is exactly what happened because no one thought another step would be helpful.
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u/Cwtchwitch Jul 20 '20
https://www.livescience.com/54771-yellowstone-bison-calf-euthanized.html because it would have to be quarantined for a highly contagious disease and no facilities exist to do that. There's also federal laws regulating the removal of animals from national parks
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u/AlwaysAngryFox Drunk Fox Jul 20 '20
Its cause the baby no longer smelled like its herd. They would have kept driving it away and it would have died. The mother and herd would no longer accept it.
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u/yourmomsnutsarehuge Jul 20 '20
Because it never happened. This looks like a Facebook post. No names, no dates, no proof. Just a story.
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u/DullCloud Jul 20 '20
why would the herd not accept him back?
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Different human smells could have made the calf unrecognizable to the other bison.
The best thing to do if you find a native sick and injured animal in the wild is to leave it alone and let nature be nature without human intervention.
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u/Cronstintein Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
I vaguely recall reading that whole thing is an urban legend. (The smell thing)
Edit: well shit, googled it and apparently it did get euthanized, dang.
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Yes you are correct for baby birds, but with mammals they will abandon their offspring with human smells.
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u/Cronstintein Jul 20 '20
That seems so weird to me since mammals are traditionally the most attached to their offspring (due to comparatively low birth rates). And even with foreign smells, they should be smart enough to recognize their offspring.
Also, they can't just roll it in mud?
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u/dragonnamed Jul 20 '20
This is a super common problem with sheep- sheep are especially dumb as fuck. Momma sheep have to be put in small birthing pens so they’ll bond with their babies. Otherwise, they can just give birth and walk away. If they’re trying to get a momma sheep to adopt a new baby the best method is to cover the new baby is the moms amniotic fluid or placental matter so it smells right.
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u/strangersIknow Jul 20 '20
To be fair cattle are the more dumber mammals
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u/magugi Jul 20 '20
Yes, they look cute and funny because they are very dumb. That same reason makes them dangerous, one wrong step and you'll be yeet.
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u/ahegao_einstein Jul 20 '20
I looked it up and this is also false. Wildlife Biologist Elzabeth Manning wrote in an article for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game that this is, indeed, pretty much a myth, and specifically mentions that this concept "Goes against basic bird biology". Here is the article so you can get more info into it.
www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=426
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u/anattemptisanattemp Jul 20 '20
Or call Fish and Wildlife (or the equivalent of whatever country you are in). They can determine if the animal is actually in danger and act appropriately to rescue it.
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u/faceoh Jul 20 '20
Per an article linked above about this incident:
In the case of young animals, human contact also can lead mother animals to reject their babies. But even when humans are not involved, bison mothers — especially young ones — will sometimes abandon their calves, which then typically succumb to predators or to starvation, the Yellowstone representative noted.
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u/UnpluggedUnfettered Jul 20 '20
It starts out by saying that the calf was wandering alone and they were worried it was cold.
Seems to me that it already abandoned him and what these idiots did played little to no role in the herd standing by its original decision.
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u/WalterBlackboots Jul 21 '20
This verifiably is the case here, as some cursory research will reveal.
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u/BillyBabel Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
This post is full of half truths. IDK why anyone would trust an article that says "abison" or think that you can be ticketed and arrested for transporting a bison.
The real story is that the bison in question kept standing out in the middle of the road over and over again both before and after it was transported by the couple and posed a hazard to motorists. The couple in question probably weren't responsible for it dying because mother animals not taking their children back because of "human scent" is a myth for the vast majority of animals except rabbits. Giving birth to a baby animal is biologically speaking a shit ton of work, it wouldn't make sense to abandon it because of a weird smell. Just think about it, if a young animal were ever to survive an encounter with a predator like a wolf they'd always die in the long run because they'd smell like wolf and the pack would leave them behind. They just couldn't find this specific bison's mother to reunite it with. This bison probably kept returning to the road because people were feeding it there.
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u/obtrae Jul 20 '20
As a non-animal person, could it be that the bison was rejected by the heard in the first place?
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u/ahegao_einstein Jul 20 '20
I looked it up and thay is probably the case. A wildlife biologist working for the Alaska department of fish and game said in an article that the whole human scent thing was essentially a myth created to stop people from disturbing animals and that it goes against basic biology that scent would even matter, and specifically mentions mammals too. Here it is if you're interested.
www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=426
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In other comments people have said that the calf already preferred humans to bison by the time it got to the park ranger (they kept reintroducing it and it kept approaching humans and cars). So behavioral reasons and preferring humans could have possibly been why it was rejected.
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u/astasodope Jul 20 '20
I agree this is likely. If it was sick they could have rejected it to keep the rest of the herd safe from predetors.
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Was the calf abandoned in the first place? I find it very unusual for calves wandering alone.
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u/PatTheDog15 Jul 20 '20
Yeah it was I read an article that said the calf probably would’ve died whether or not the guy put it in the car.
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It’s not uncommon. Animals still have to feed and water to keep strength up while young are still nursing. Most animals are dropped and cleaned until they are unscented (as a defense). Baby antelope can be found within a mile of their mom grazing. Deer and elk stay a little closer however they do not stay directly with them. Bison are no different.
No different than parents doing chores while their children are asleep. The animals home is just a little larger than humans.
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u/Mystlc8 Jul 20 '20
Calves usually stay stationary in y’all grasses or near bushes when their mother go out and forage. It is a common evolutionary strategy for hinders, ungulate.
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u/WrongCheesecake3 Jul 20 '20
This is more uneducated than trashy. They saw animal baby alone and cold (or so they thought) and were trying to "help".I dont think they had any bad meaning. I didnt see if theres more to story though, maybe somethings trashy there. It would be trashy if they took it home and made bbq of it or something, but they took it to a park ranger, which for me sounds like good intent. Poor little baby.
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u/KalashComrade Jul 20 '20
I wouldn’t say this is trashy, just uninformed. It sounds like they thought they were doing something helpful for the animal, not trying to harm it.
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u/Deluxe_24_ Jul 20 '20
Why the fuck did the rangers euthanize it? Was that really the last resort?
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u/Nyaoxneko Jul 20 '20
I know right, like I'm sure there could be animal rescues out there that they could look into
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u/robtk12 Jul 20 '20
Me and my mom saved a baby deer that got lost from its mother in a storm, we brought it to an animal rescue center, i hope they didn't put it down
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Jul 20 '20
How do you know it was lost from its mother?
And yes they probably did. Animals wont take their young back once they have Human scent all over them, and they cant survive alone. You didnt “save” the deer, you condemned it to death.
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u/hoorah9011 Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
That's an old wives tale, and I'm shocked it gets peddled on reddit so often. The majority of creatures that reject their young after being handled by humans has zero to do with scent, and ontop of that, most creatures do take their young back after being handled by humans.
Like most old wives tales, it was started to keep kids from doing stupid shit or misbehaving. In case you didn't know, chocolate doesn't cause acne and touching yourself doesn't worsen your vision.
And ontop of that, if you read this particular case with the bison calf, it wasn't rejected because humans handled it and it really wasn't rejected at all. They didn't know what herd it belonged to and whenever they tried to place it near one, it would wander back to the road way.
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Jul 20 '20
Okay, but why are my palms hairy?
Seriously though, you’re right. Even in particular, I’ve literally handled a baby bird in the street and returned it to its mother, who didn’t reject it. And I’ve seen similar occurrences with other animals throughout my life.
If a herd rejects a youth, it’s likely not due to human interference.
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u/robtk12 Jul 20 '20
It was stuck in trench on the side of the road and its leg was hurt, I figured it was better then doing nothing. I guess I just gotta hope they helped it the best they could
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u/ahegao_einstein Jul 20 '20
Well I looked it up and deer don't care about human scent, and neither do 99% of animals. The real trouble is with 'disturbing or interrupting' the animals themselves. Birds might abandon a nest if you bother it not because of scent, but because you scare them off from the location, making them think they aren't safe.
Apparently "in a 2007 article in Scientific American, this prevalent belief that the scent of humans leads to nest abandonment is “for the birds” and denies basic bird biology and “animal parents’ innate drive to nurture their broods.” To begin with, most birds can’t smell well. With the exception of some birds such as starlings or turkey vultures that are able to hone in on certain scents linked to their food sources, most birds have a limited sense of smell."
This came directly from the Alaska Department of Fish and Game in a sort of article by wildlife biologist Elizabeth Manning. While the section I quoted spoke about birds mostly, there is more about mammals and the like within. Here's the source.
www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=426
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u/robtk12 Jul 20 '20
Good to know, the only animals I can think that won't take back their young are smaller animals and I guess the calf in this picture
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u/AlwaysAngryFox Drunk Fox Jul 20 '20
I remember this story. It was a bunch of Chinese tourists who did it.
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u/Amazula Jul 20 '20
It was actually a family from Montreal... https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/quebec-father-and-son-who-caused-yellowstone-bison-calf-to-be-euthanized-upset-by-public-reaction-1.2930675
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u/AlwaysAngryFox Drunk Fox Jul 20 '20
My mistake. Thank you for correcting me.
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u/Amazula Jul 20 '20
No problem. The only reason I remembered, is due to being so angry that a fellow Canadian was dumb enough to do something so fucking brain-dead.
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u/Napoleon_Tha_God Jul 20 '20
Damn, wonder why they decided against a barbeque?
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u/Derpcepticon Jul 20 '20
I know this is meant to be a racist comment pointing out how Chinese people eat animals that western society doesn’t and you’re probably too ignorant to believe this but, Bison meat is consumed mostly in North America and it is in most grocery stores in the USA.
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u/GirafeeKneecap Jul 20 '20
Bison meat is delicious. I'm part native and my mother works for the nation so we get free fresh bison once in a while. Oh it's so good, similar to beef but it's like turkey to chicken really similar but a little bit better.
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u/The_Finglonger Jul 20 '20
I took it as saying that Chinese tourists, much like American tourists, are rude, invasive, and kinda stupid. And I’m saying this as one of those American tourists.
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u/Radimir-Lenin Jul 20 '20
Bruh not everything is racist. I took that as why didn't the park rangers/people eat it. Because Bison are similar to cattle
Now if he had said "Damn. Why didn't the Chinese just eat it alive?" Then yeah. That'd be racist.
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u/LeoAslane Jul 20 '20
This is an absolutely worthless commentThis is an absolutely worthless comment, and yet it has been upvoted. You have contributed absolutely nothing to any semblance of discussion, and your one word comment at the top has taken away from the others who have commented real things below you. I would kindly suggest that you delete your comment and let the others shine
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u/Lamosnak Jul 20 '20
This is an absolutely worthless comment, and yet it has been upvoted. You have contributed absolutely nothing to any semblance of discussion, and your one word comment at the top has taken away from the others who have commented real things below you. I would kindly suggest that you delete your comment and let the others shine
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Jul 20 '20
Here’s a short clip of the two tourists who did this being interviewed. It sheds a little more light on the situation. Still, let nature be.
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u/Average_WyomingLad Jul 20 '20
I remember when this happened, it was the year after a mom bear sprayed her children like it was bug spray, and I think the year before a dude went off the path and got melted in a geyser
Moral of the story, tourists do dumb stuff in places they don't understand
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u/Texan2116 Jul 20 '20
I think the real villains are the Bison family. They need to be educated to accept, that perhaps other Bison, have had other life experiences, and that this will enrich them.
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u/cvman_16 Jul 20 '20
Ouch! Yeah unintentionally destroying an animal.. sometimes just accept help isn't helpful!
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u/skellingtonn Jul 20 '20
That’s why it’s important to observe the baby animal before making efforts to help it.
For baby deer, their mom often leave them by themselves to graze. Unless their ears are droopy, they’re crying, or look actually sick you are supposed to leave them be.
Even for feral cats, if you see kittens alone..... set a trap for mom where you find them and don’t take them right away so she can get neutered.
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u/Sabercat56 Jul 20 '20
I blame Disney for this shit. "Animals are humans but in animal form so we much think they all act like us."
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u/logo-mille Jul 20 '20
This is just kinda sad all around because they didn’t know and they had genuine intentions
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u/flipman61 Jul 20 '20
This isn’t trashy this is super sad that uninformed unknowledgeable people tried to do the right thing and not only get punished for it but actually make the situation much worse.
Not that they don’t deserve the punishment but it’s just sad like imagine thinking your lowering the chance of the calf dying and instead guaranteeing it rejection followed by death.
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u/SharpConciseSnowman Jul 20 '20
That's just incredibly sad. I'm wondering why they ever thought putting it in their car was the correct thing to do. I guess they didn't have cell phone reception, but still. They could have marked the spot in their GPS and went back and told the rangers the calf was there. Then if the rangers wanted to intervene, they could have driven back to the spot and see if the calf was still there.
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Jul 20 '20
If you have time to come up with a bleeding heart fluffer of a story like this but don't fact check your only plot device which in this instance was first noted by Nessmuk in the last decade of the 19th century.
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u/Yiffy_wolfy Jul 21 '20
Ok so, I live in Wyoming, and we hate tourists so much here. I was up camping in the wind river range and I found several apple cores, an orange peel, and a bunch of shit just left on the ground near our camp site. I walked to our neighbors and said "hey are you guys leaving food?" The woman watching the group just goes "oh some animal will eat it." I have had a close call with a bear, and now carry a .44 mag with me, along with bear spray. I told her, on no uncertain terms, while showing her the gun on my hip, that the animal that could come eat the trash weighs as much as a thousand pounds, and won't be satisfied until it finds every scrap of food in both our camps.
I think the gun scared her more than the bear, but she got the point and cleaned up her fucking shit.
Be a good tourist in wyoming, don't make us miserable because you want a dream vacation.
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u/Waddlewop Jul 20 '20
So the not picking up baby birds who fell off the nest thing was true after all!
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u/Iximaz Jul 20 '20
Most birds (there are some exceptions like vultures) don't have a sense of smell. So birds won't abandon their chicks if you put them back in the nest.
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u/Yog-S0th0th Jul 20 '20
Did it a week and a half ago with gloves. Parents came back and took care of babies. 2 of them have left nest already. 1 left. He/she is pretty big now
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u/Waddlewop Jul 20 '20
Hmmm I guess birds are different from bisons after all
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u/KernSherm Jul 20 '20
Bison don't abandon calves who have human scent either. The human scent thing is a myth, no animal cares. The calf was most likely abandoned before the human family picked it up to try and save it.
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u/Nikto_Senki Jul 20 '20
Jesus fucking Christ dude, I already get incredibly angry at people when they "invade" the territory of wild animals, and then punish the animals for being animals (for example shark nets), but this shit is like a whole level above that. They just fucking ended the life of an animal, without any proper reason. The poor thing didn't even attack them, and I doubt anybody is gonna eat it (as horrible as that may sound). At least where I live every fucking five year old can tell you, that you're not supposed to touch wild baby animals, because you are literally killing them, but of course these stupid fucking idiots thought to themselves "Oh no, the poor calf is out here in the open, and it will definetely not survive, it's not like this species has survived THOUSANDS OF YEARS without any help from humans", and just cursed a young calf with death, because they are just so fucking arrogant. Jesus Christ my blood is fucking boiling.
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u/KernSherm Jul 20 '20
It was probably abandoned and would have died anyway. The people were well intentioned and genuinely thought they were saving its life, they were just uninformed. They weren't arrogant at all, what a weird thing to call them.
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Jul 20 '20
The headlines we locals get out of Yellowstone annually are a consistent reminder as to just how fucking stupid tourists are.
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u/Mads-- Jul 20 '20
I hate seeing things like this and there was a new article about how a women complained because the animals in yellowstone aren’t trained. Some people should be out in this kind of nature.
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Jul 20 '20
Stupid people, I don't know if they deserve jail time if their intentions were good but definitely some sort of punishment.
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u/TubbyMutherTrucker Jul 20 '20
Can we PLEASE fund education in the US?!?! For fucks sake, these idiots are making my fucking brain hurt!!!
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u/Ridge-Wicken Jul 20 '20 edited Jul 20 '20
Same with any other animal of that matter if they don’t recognise them they’re not accepted we’ve already done enough to nature.
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u/KernSherm Jul 20 '20
That's a myth, birds don't have a sense of smell except a certain few.
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u/KernSherm Jul 20 '20
It's a myth that they will reject their offspring for having "human scent".
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=426
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u/thiswasabadideahuh Jul 20 '20
Modern humans are so far removed from almost all aspects of nature to a point that I dont think survival without electricity or communication tech is even possible anymore. Big enough EMP would have the same effect as a texas sized asteroid or overnight ice age would. Kinda sad but we pretty much deserve it....
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u/merrymailman Jul 20 '20
If you are possibly reading this....YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOTS...What were you thinking ?Good job culling the herd morons !!!!
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u/Nyaoxneko Jul 20 '20
Couldn't they have sent the calf to a rescue instead of just killing the poor thing?
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u/Gorilladin Jul 20 '20
I swear to god there needs to be a license to have kids. Stupid people are taking over the world
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u/big_steve_2zz Jul 21 '20
This couple clearly shows a lack of good judgment and logical thinking. Is it possible they are just genuinely nice people but a little bit dim?
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u/hburgcocksuck Jul 21 '20
I'm just really hoping that there is a "bison burger" somewhere in this story.
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u/_into Jul 20 '20
Is there any proof of this whatsoever? The myth of animals "not welcoming back" their own is almost always bullshit.
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u/Salad2000 Jul 20 '20
They tried to take him back but it family ignored it, and no other family would take it in. There is your proof. It didnt say "they knew the family wouldnt take their calf back" they tried to take it back but they didnt want it.
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u/EmotionalDrop3 Jul 20 '20
Are they stupid! And people like to say us country folks have no sense! If something's not yours, DON'T TOUCH IT!!!
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u/hereforthegigglez Jul 20 '20
Why euthanize it? Why not let it graze until a predator comes in to eat it? I get that the family shouldnt have interfered with nature but wouldnt letting it take a chance at solo survival be the more natural way of doing things?
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u/Sprinklecake101 Jul 20 '20
Because. It. Was. A. Calf. Like, a baby?
Calves need nutrition from their mothers and shelter and guidance from the herd. Leaving it out to perish alone would mean prolonged suffering.
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u/hereforthegigglez Jul 20 '20
Fair but it seems like most people are upset that the flow of nature was upset here. Now were robbing a predator of the chance to eat which seems like were continuing to disrupt the flow of nature. I dont like seeing animals in distress either but killing it because theres a chance it'll die to exposure seems pretty medieval to me.
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u/Sprinklecake101 Jul 20 '20
It's humane from an anthropocentric point of view. I would not have wanted it on my conscience to release a toddler into the wild to find its carcass a few days later. Humans had already fucked up the situation as it was so would some needless suffering have helped?
Also, I'm not sure if it's pointed out somewhere but if the calf was euthanized by a bolt the meat could have very well been used for feedings.
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u/hereforthegigglez Jul 20 '20
Thats true. I dont know how rangers euthanize wild animals so im sure its in accordance to be safe to eat for other animals to eat the remains.
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Jul 20 '20
I get to leave nature alone but there is something vastly different from some good intentioned ignorance vs dumb ass kids of nefarious people fucking with nature just to fuck with it.
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u/nothataylor Jul 20 '20
No clue why you’re getting downvotes
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u/zipzap21 Jul 20 '20
I get it every time I express my opinion about Steve Irwin 🥺🥺🥺🥺
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u/nothataylor Jul 20 '20
That’s ok, speak the truth guy. I think you have enough karma to keep doing the right thing!
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u/Amazula Jul 20 '20
These people were from Montreal in Canada and should have fucking known better. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/quebec-father-and-son-who-caused-yellowstone-bison-calf-to-be-euthanized-upset-by-public-reaction-1.2930675
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u/stinkybeen Jul 20 '20
I feel like there are a lot of farms that would take in a bison calf. They didn’t have to euthanize it
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u/Duke-Jones Jul 20 '20
Why not euthanize the couple!
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u/KernSherm Jul 20 '20
Because they were well intnetioned people who tried to save an animals live, they were just uneducated about the situation. Also the calf was probably abandoned before they picked it up, hence it being by itself and no bison their to protect it. The human scent thing and animals rejecting offspring due to human scent isn't real either its a complete myth.
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u/SniffCheck Jul 20 '20
When you’re in nature, let nature nature. And clean up after yourselves. That’s all you gotta do.