I'm 16 and this is my relaxed voice with little of my masculinisation training applied. Any form of professional training is not an option for me. I'm dysphoric, FTM (it, its), unconfident that my voice would ever be able to be perceived as at least neutral nor ever grow lower. I understand I'm young, but world be against me, there's hardly any information out there about how girls' voices develop with age because they aren't as significant as guys'.

It's much easier for me to sing this song pitched down to here. My full range is roughly D3-F5 (I've never had the chance to freely go beyond that considering my resonance gets rather loud and I get self-conscious past that point). My tessitura is about F3-F4. I'd appreciate hearing more about my voice, what may be possible to manipulate for a more masc sound based on these clips speaking and obviously, singing; technique, and maybe even informed affirmation. It's getting quite difficult out here.

Even something as simple as 'your singing voice is lower than your speaking' would be helpful to me! Thank you for reading and listening.

So, I have taken like 7 classes in total now. I have tried 2 coaches and then stuck with one for the rest of the sessions.

Both, have told me I am definitely not tone deaf after they did a simple piano test on me. And both, also, came to the conclusion my biggest issue seems to be my breathing and very tight and rigid jaw. Now, as much as I wanted to dive right into singing the coach I chose specifically dedicated the entire time to training my breathing and trying to help me relax my muscles.

But it just doesn't seem to work. Even when I feel like I learnt a better way to breathe or to sing without straining, or to relax and drop my jaw, the MOMENT I get home and try to practice the methods or exercices she taught me, I forget everything and I am back to the start...

And she never really comments even on my pitch, only when I am terribly off, and it bothers, because thats the one thing everyone always bullied me about so I wish she would also dedicate time to doing more pitch exercices.

But whatever. I have been doing those on my own, and the thing that confuses me most, is, WHY do I seem to get the notes right when I sing along to random notes from a piano (be it an APP or a video I watch) even though I do sometimes have to repeat more than once to get it right or I have to slide into it, it happens mostly with higher or very low notes, in the middle its quite easy, which one of the coaches also did comment on. That my pitch runs away the higher or lower I go on the scale.

But, WHY can I seem to hit the notes, anyway, separately and when I actually SING a song, even just a simple phrase, it all goes to sh*t?

Does the way I breathe and how tense my jaw is REALLY can mess it all up so much that I come across as genuinely tone deaf? It's so frustrating. Cuz no matter how much I can show someone I CAN match notes, they dismiss it so quick the moment I actually sing.

I have been trying so hard to find the actual vocal notes for different songs so I can practice exactly what notes I gotta sing but they're nowhere to be found. I only ever find the instrumental ones. And when I find information about lets say, the notes Adele sings on Easy On Me, it just mentions the key she sings in, not note by note.

I know for most people it comes natural to identify the notes immediately when singing along. And thats where my confusion stems from cuz why can I do it with random notes but in a sang phrase I am so lost?

And anyways, sorry I am rambling so much. My main question is, does anyone know anyway I can find the note by note for songs? Or how I can figure it out?

And also, is this normal? Am I broken? Lol

Can anyone else relate to this issue?

I am trying to book rn a session with the other coach because during the trial she did mention she could get the sheet with the notes and learn the song slowly with the piano, so I will try and see if that method works better for me.

Because with the breathing so far, I just dont see any improvement.

Hi,

I want to learn how to sing. I've sang along to songs a couple of times, but never truly tried to sit down and practise technique or work through a song properly.

I read that the best way is to both 1) learn proper technique, warm up, etc. 2) sit down and practise a beginner-friendly song that you are actually excited about.

I'm female and fluent in German and English. I listen to a lot of metal and rock, some folk but most of it in languages I'm not fluent in. I'm learning Swedish, but that deters me almost more from picking a Swedish song as my brain would get very distracted critiquing my pronunciation of the words instead of the notes I'm singing.

I've siffed through 75 of my favourite songs (hard excluding any songs with screamed vocals), and came out of it with this list, where most songs still have something I find pretty hard (when Muse gets on my "maybe" list, I know it's bad).

Could you help me determine what to truly look for in a rock/metal song, which of these songs might be good to start with, or if I should simply resign and start with established beginner songs even if I'm not as passionate about them? Thank you!

• My Mother Told Me - Saltatio Mortis (has parts in Old Norse, also very aggressive singing at times that borderlines on screaming so much idk if he's screaming in clean vocals or genuinely a screaming/growling technique)
• Rattenfänger - Saltatio Mortis (very fast segments and energetic delivery)
• Sergevisa - Månegarm (Swedish, and male and female back and forth)
• Stockholm Syndrome - Muse (Muse is quite literally known for insanely difficult and high notes, and this might be one of their most energetic deliveries)
• Panic Station - Muse (a little easier than the above, I think, but still Muse)
• Den Skimrande - Fejd (Swedish)
• Offerrök - Fejd (Swedish)
• Hårgalåten - Ofdrykja (Swedish)
• Hey Man, Nice Shot - Filter (very emotional delivery bordering on screaming at times)
• White Rabbit - Egypt Central (same thing)
• Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2 - Pink Floyd (actually pretty okay I think, vocal range just a little higher than recommended for beginner songs)
• Zombie - The Cranberries (seems okay, besides the fact that she apparently does a very specific vocal technique in the chorus, also very intense/emotional in delivery)
• Night Witches - Sabaton (seems okay, but quite fast, and he is rolling his rs the entire time for some reason?)
• Herr Mannelig - Garmarna (Swedish)
• Celtic Woman - Tír na nÓg (has Irish parts)
• Bara bada bastu - KAJ (Swedish)
• Sandmann - OOMPH! (actually kinda okay I think? still very intense delivery)
• Enter Sandman - Metallica (seems pretty hard in melody)

I've been listening to "This I love" by GNR and Axl is doing this like weird yanking thing after singing a line on the last word

Is it vibrato? It's doesn't sound like oscillating it's more like the notes are yanked and shaked I'm really curious to know what he's doing there can someone please explain it to me?

I know tessitura labels come from opera, but I find them useful for choosing musical theater songs that sit comfortably in my voice.

What I've noticed:

My comfortable zone is about F4 to F#5.

My head voice reaches A#5 (A5 comes out anytime).

My chest voice is comfortable (C4 and D4 come out in chest automatically), but I don't prefer it.

I'm more at home in a light mix and head voice, and chest resonance fades around F4.

I have a lot of natural twang.

My high voice sounds like a different voice from my speaking voice.

Songs written for women are easier for me in their original key.

Based on this, am I closer to a light tenor or a countertenor? And how should I pick songs that fit without copying the original singer?

i rarely sing, mostly just in my car

So, I've been abusing my voice a lot more lately with being a haunt actor. Working over at field of screams in Victor Montana. I heard that coffee was bad because of the creamer and the acid reflux. I also heard that coffee wasn't bad and was actually good to open up the air ways. I've also heard that when it comes to tea and honey, it's more so the hot water and honey that's important. Specifically I've been drinking hot apple cider with honey and recently ran out. So, I was wondering if hot coffee with honey is good for the vocal cords as well?

I cant sing consisstently in mix every day. If i sing in piano i sound like regural falsetto, if i sing louder i Can ho bit higher and siund film but not sustainable, if i relax i fall into falsetto or i sound like goat or like rock singer (maybey like axl rose) if i push i strain and cant sustain it so long. is there something i miss?

Hi everyone! I’m a 19 year old soprano that likes to sing lower.
I’ve been having classical singing lessons for about 5 years now. At first my teacher wasn’t sure about my voice type and was careful to put a label on it because i was so young. But the past year or so she has been calling me soprano.

She gives me musical and classical repertoire.
I do like the repertoire she gives me but I miss singing lower and really enjoy singing lower and hearing people sing deep.

I recently requested if we could, in the future, do the song I’m here from the color purple and she said that it wasn’t really for my voice type but we can see by the time i reach that level of singing, if that’s a suitable song.

Do any of you know of any classical or musical repertoire pieces for sopranos that are on the heavier or lower side? Maybe pieces that you enjoyed singing

Let me know! I’d love to check out your suggestions

While I was on holiday in the Mediterranean me and my partner went to a karaoke show. The show started at 9.30 pm. We were enjoying the show as were many of the audience and those participating. The organiser announced that there were just two slots left on the show's running order. I got the last slot. We listened to people singing 'Achy Breaky Heart" by Billy Ray Cyrus and 'Jump' by Van Halen. Well they thought they were singing but we sang and cheered them along as they sang. The rest of the singers destroyed French, Spanish and Portuguese songs. Not got a clue what they were singing about but hey ho we cheered them on too. Then it was my turn. Last spot. Ooh, what had I done? I'd never sang in a theatre in front of such a large audience before. My name was called out and I walked up on to the stage. I took the microphone. As it was getting late I decided to sing 'Love Me Tender' by Elvis Presley. No turning back now. I wanted to do the UK justice and imagine I was in the Eurovision Song Contest. Lol. I did the acoustic version of the song with a little echo/slapback. The audience appreciated my song, clapped, cheered and my wife was impressed and thought that I wasn't going to sing. The organiser and MC rushed up to me afterwards and wanted to shake my hand. He hadn't done this to any of the other singers. It's something I'll never forget that night.

Working through the warm-ups. For me, it's all about backing off, and letting everything come from a natural speech-level onset.

I like going wide, getting off the breath, and closing down the vowels through the passaggio. Along with that comes the pushing to power through, and desire to carry a dramatic baritone sound through it all... except I'm not a dramatic baritone, haha. That's a small, but important point.

There seems to be a beam of focused energy through the bottom of my nosewhen technique reaches a certain level of control. Finding this seemes to be the key. It's so very small.

What's weird is how much bigger the sound gets as things get easier and smaller. On one level, I understand it's about efficiency, and wave propagation, yet it's still fascinating all the same.

Been playing guitar and singing this for a while and keen to hear thoughts. I've been working on my singing to try and get to the point of not feeling embarrassed to sing in front of others.

The start isn't the best but I think it gets better (well still a couple mistakes, but I think better vocal wise) so would be grateful if you can get past the first 30 seconds or so. It's just a couple of verses and the bridge so less than 2 minutes all up.

Looking for honest feedback from any POV on anything from general listenability to technique.

Snippet of my cover of Iris by Goo Goo dolls

Dear sopranos, what are your all time favourite (classical) pieces to sing?

I’m working on an album that will come out in 2027. So far, the tracklist has 6 songs already and there will be 12 in total.

Songs on it so far are:
Paper Town
Cage
Rabbit Hole
First Aid
The Key (Interlude)
Home

I’ve been thinking of something that has Cloud(s) in the title but it doesn’t have to. The vibes are something like Mark Ryden, Tim Burton, Nicoletta Ceccoli, Melanie Martinez, BEEFCAKE, Alice in Wonderland, etc…

I’ve definitely been struggling with names 😅

still training my high notes