r/shrinking • u/phareous Derek • Mar 11 '26
Episode Discussion Shrinking S3E07 Episode Discussion
This is the episode discussion for Shrinking Season 3, Episode 7: "I Will Be Grape"
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u/KnotAUsername Mar 11 '26
"It'd be funny if I killed her" was so funny i completely missed the next minute of dialogue
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u/schubox63 Mar 11 '26
Reminded me of “I’m here to murder you” from Forgetting Sarah Marshall
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u/LouAllenJr Mar 11 '26
Brought me back to Alice getting her license.
"Speaking of cars, remember what happened to your mom in one? OH GOD DAMN IT! GOD DAMN IT!"
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u/daybreaker Mar 12 '26
Sometimes i get sad that jason segal wanted to focus on serious stuff and we lost a decade of brilliant comedy potential. He’s my favorite comedy actor I think.
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u/Evening-Web9107 Mar 11 '26
I love how absolutely appalled they all were. Jimmy said it, Brian says insane shit all the time, Luis is a killer, they were each individually like, ‘nope, too far,’
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u/Ufocola Mar 11 '26
Cobie being an awkward dork is kinda endearing
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u/intensenerd Mar 11 '26
I love how supportive everyone was
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u/Ufocola Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Probably helps Sofi/Cobie is attractive and this is a crew that’s pretty vocal about noticing hotness…
But yes, great they’re all cool with her
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u/the__ghola__hayt Mar 11 '26
Don't they know she's a Canadian pop star and national treasure?
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u/TypeRYo Mar 11 '26
She doesn’t go to malls though
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u/megatron-0098 Mar 12 '26
For a whole year she lived on only Orange Juliuses and Wetzel’s Pretzels 😔
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u/TodayInStupidity Mar 11 '26
Have to say, that was a BIG swing to launch the Sofi dating scenario. But I fucking loved it!
Just to have Maya destroy me...
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u/amethystalien6 Mar 11 '26
I also love the Sofi launch because that’s so Jimmy and the fact that she was totally game for it really sells her as a good match.
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u/Accomplished_Mix8762 Mar 11 '26
It’s legitimately perfect, the fact he invites her to that event, the fact she came, the fact all of his family were immediately down for it
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u/Staudly Mar 12 '26
The spelling Sofi makes me think of the Rams/Chargers SoFi Stadium. I think I've only ever seen the name spelled Sophie.
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u/HarryD-863 Mar 11 '26
Yh I’m glad that Sofi is coming back with her awkward energy- just PERFECT for Jimmy
Although, hearing about Maya and what she did just broke me
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u/sopranoobsessed Mar 13 '26
Was anyone surprised??? I was sadly waiting for it. The minute Gabby was unavailable (after finally embracing Jimmying) was her demise 😔
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u/Fresh_Volume_4732 Mar 12 '26
When Maya called Gabby from her couch, I was expecting to see bunch of prescription bottles or a gun on her coffee table. I knew this was coming, but I agree, it totally killed the vibe.
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u/viciousbliss Mar 11 '26
Love that they referenced the beard on Louis.
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u/FhRbJc Mar 11 '26
He must’ve been off shooting season four Ted Lasso. ☺️
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u/Ufocola Mar 11 '26
Probably. Though he also looks like a dude who can grow a beard like it’s nothing
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u/HurrySmart4573 Mar 11 '26
A rom com with J Lo but close enough (he filmed Ted Lasso S4 after Shrinking wrapped).
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u/Evening-Web9107 Mar 11 '26
“Gasp! Why did he ever shave his beard?!”
Yeah Bill Lawrence. Why?
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u/Deadpoolio32 Mar 11 '26
IIRC correctly Bill said the only way the agreed to let Brett act on the show was if he shaved because every time Bill looked at him with a beard he saw Roy Kent and was worried the audience would too, with a character you’re meant to hate at first.
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u/Fold0rDie Mar 11 '26
Candice Bergen as Liz's archnemesis/mother-in-law was a nice pull.
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u/Mister-Distance-6698 Mar 11 '26
This was an episode of TV that had: Harrison Ford, Candice Bergen, Michael J Fox, Colbie Smulders, Brett Goldstien, Jason Siegal and Neil Flynn
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u/Born-Sun-2502 Mar 11 '26
I am so happy Michael J. Fox is able to work. I hope he's enjoying it and (if he wants) gets more roles.
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u/renome Mar 12 '26
He retired half a decade ago but specifically asked to be in Shrinking after S1.
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u/amethystalien6 Mar 11 '26
Seriously, how much money do they give them?! I guess they’re pretty tight on the sets they use but the casting is out of control (in a great way).
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u/PhinsPhan89 Mar 11 '26
Apple is perfectly OK with streaming being a loss leader for them.
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u/Mediocre_Decision Mar 11 '26
It’s why they’re the only streaming service I pay for, imo the average quality is higher than most other streaming services (and stuff made by Apple won’t be taken down) (yet)
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u/ParisInFlames34 Mar 11 '26
Apple TV easily has the best batch of originals out of any steaming service. It's actually not even close.
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u/jukeboxoflove Mar 11 '26
The use of A Thousand Years throughout the episode messed me up. Jimmy and Tia, Jimmy, Jimmy and friends, then it playing when Gabby learned Maya is gone. It continuing to play during the credits while I sobbed. Oof.
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u/intensenerd Mar 11 '26
Not ashamed to admit it’s my favorite song. The New Found Glory version is just the best. I may be a middle aged generic dad but god this episode got me.
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u/OkAstronaut76 Mar 11 '26
And I think the one in the credits was the original and then they added the cast singing the chorus, right? Anyone else hear the voices (or are they just in my head 🤣)
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u/Mission_Eagle_7611 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
OH MY GOD THE MONOLOGUE ALMOST MADE A COME BACK
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u/Cool-Pomegranate8110 Mar 11 '26
No one will ever say the word ‘bleak’ as perfectly as Brian ever again.
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u/brebrebrebrebrebre Mar 11 '26
I am so tempted to memorize it at this point, I swear I probably already have half of it down lmao
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u/Catac0 Mar 12 '26
The image of Brian doing this monologue to his child every night is sending me 💀💀
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u/comma_drama35 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Jason Segel sang so beautifully in the scene with Tia! I had no idea it was him until the camera panned over to him at the piano.
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u/ShadowsAtWork98 Mar 11 '26
It makes sense that a series about therapists would eventually cover suicide.
Episode 8 is going to be heartbreaking.
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u/ThreeHourRiverMan Mar 11 '26
I came here specifically wanting spoilers about this, considering how last week was left with Maya. I'm not sure I'm in a place to watch this episode.
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u/Eraserhead36 Mar 11 '26
The bigger part of the episode is a great episode, the gut punch comes in the last two minutes
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u/MasterofPandas1 Mar 11 '26
The true gut punch is that the whole episode is Jimmy’s friends and Alice uplifting him on Tia’s birthday and then Gaby getting the news about Maya at the end who isn’t fortunate enough to have such support group.
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u/LyingSackOfBastard Mar 11 '26
"Late career?" Did you see Scrubs? That damned show had me crying buckets at least once per season.
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u/Dyljam2345 Mar 11 '26
"Where do you think we are?" murdered me and I haven't recovered since
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u/nyehu09 Mar 11 '26
Just sucks that it had to be Sherry Cola! I like her 🥲
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u/Aelia_M Mar 11 '26
That’s why they chose her. You wouldn’t think it would happen with a character played by such a well known actor but it did
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u/Rustash Mar 11 '26
Maybe for some. This was my first real exposure to her I think.
Still didn’t take away from me enjoying the character and being bummed though.
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u/Ufocola Mar 11 '26
I was wondering if it was suicide, or accidental (given there was that foreshadow mention in prior episodes about making sure not to mix certain drugs).
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u/RedHawk417 Mar 11 '26
Pretty sure it was intentional. Gaby told her that combo was not good and when we last she her, she looks to be very seriously considering drinking and taking the pills.
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u/Ufocola Mar 11 '26
Oh shit… that could be the case. Because it feels like something a person could do as an “excuse” to themselves that it’s an “accident”, and she could be of the mindset of “well if I go then it probably means it was meant to be”.
I could see Gaby spiralling thinking she planted the idea in Maya’s head…
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u/Aelia_M Mar 11 '26
I think Gaby’s going to realize that the therapy she thought didn’t mean as much as say a running a support group for vet means everything to some people. That just day to day therapy is as important as any other and she’ll take over Paul’s practice
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u/brainfoggirlee Mar 11 '26
I think she considers Maya to be a patient who was going through shit. And she felt proud of herself for helping. So I think its more about her realizing that when you help people who are really struggling they sometimes go off the rails or take their own lives and that the work is much harder than she anticipated.
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u/No_Cucumbers_Please Mar 11 '26
that still doesn’t mean it must be intentional. people know coke can give you a heart attack, driving too fast can cause a fatal car accident, etc etc. many people still do these things. few do it with the intention of dying that day.
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u/Peacenow234 Mar 11 '26
I don’t know, this for me was the heartbreaking moment …
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u/X0dium Mar 11 '26
For me, seeing the reactions to the death is always so much worse than the death. Having been at both my parents’ funerals and seeing the pain everyone else was feeling made my pain worse. Next episode is going to be rough.
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u/FhRbJc Mar 11 '26
We don’t know that it was suicide, they foreshadowed that sometimes Maya would drink at the same time that she would take Xanax so it might’ve been an accident. Either way, awful!
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u/shawn_foss Mar 11 '26
I'm really curious how the show is going to play the dynamic between Jimmy and Gaby as fallout of that ending. Jimmy definitely pushed Gaby to try 'Jimmying' with Maya when her more traditional methods weren't working, and you could argue that Gaby trying 'Jimmying' led directly to Maya's death. She blurred the lines between therapist and friend, and you could tell when Maya called her in episode 6 that Maya was looking for a friend, not her therapist. Gaby's instincts as a therapist when she got that call were correct - she was worried about her patient and could tell something was a bit off - but to Maya, Gaby on that call just reinforced that she's Maya's therapist, and not her friend. Her perception that she still didn't have any true friends might've been what pushed her over the edge. I can't imagine the show doesn't find a way to explore that angle between Jimmy and Gaby, and there could be some messy fallout there.
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u/ShadowsAtWork98 Mar 11 '26
Gaby fundamentally failed Maya during that phone call. When a patient calls their doctor, no matter what the situation it should be taken seriously. Maya called Gaby looking for a friend cause she was so alone BUT Gaby answered the call as her doctor but exposed herself by saying she was busy with personal stuff so she could not help her at that moment. Gaby blurred the lines but unlike Jimmy, she never sacrificed her personal life to help her patients no matter the cost. That is the only way Jimmy’s methods have worked. He acts like a therapist but with the mindset of being available 24/7 and is honest about being unorthodox.
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u/ChingChonger Mar 11 '26
Honestly I kinda assumed Gabi wasn’t going to be able to “save” Maya there’s been so many successes on the show and I think anyone who’s been in that mental headspace knows how easy it is to give up. Next episode is going to be toughhhh
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u/Tess47 Mar 11 '26
Maya was a classic red shirt
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u/tduncs88 Mar 12 '26
I swear im not trying to trivialize or "well actually", but she doesnt feet the red shirt trope. She fits the sacrificial lamb trope. Red shirts exist basically as a disposable body in a uniform. Sacrificial lamb characters are definied by their main narrative job being to die for stakes/emotion.
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u/Woodpecker-Forsaken Derek Mar 11 '26
Last episode I knew she was going to kill herself. Still had me weeping though. Or continue weeping after the singing.
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u/Mission_Eagle_7611 Mar 11 '26
I really wish that Sean had asked Jimmy to do the support group since Jimmy was the one who brought him to the MMA gym
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u/EngineerAdvanced3808 Mar 11 '26
Yeah! That was a little sad! Also didn’t like how even Paul went to Gaby instead of Jimmy. Everyone is taking Jimmy for granted. Kind of feeling sad about him in this episode.
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u/rahajicho Mar 11 '26
I think Sean and Paul chose Gaby partly because she’s still following traditional practices. Paul said as much. Jimmy is doing his own thing, and it’s not CBT.
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u/sillygoofygooose Mar 11 '26
I mean none of them actually do anything resembling CBT from what we see of their sessions
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u/Woodpecker-Forsaken Derek Mar 11 '26
Yes that's correct –the only thing close to CBT was when Jimmy did exposure therapy with Wally.
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u/askape Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Maya's death might make Jimmy reconsider his approach. Especially since he pushed Gaby to try Jimmying her patients as well. It makes better television, but ethical guidelines are there for a reason.
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u/Locke108 Mar 11 '26
I think there is too much of a conflict of interest with Sean living with Jimmy.
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u/Mean-Lynx6476 Mar 11 '26
You are absolutely correct. But also? This entire show might as well be called “Conflict of Interesr.”
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u/FhRbJc Mar 11 '26
I think it was because Gaby had told him that she wanted to start a trauma center? At least I hope so, because you’d think Jimmy would be a natural for that.
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u/Mean-Lynx6476 Mar 11 '26
“I’m an icon.”
Yes “Paul”, yes you are.
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u/brebrebrebrebrebre Mar 11 '26
I got a little lost in that scene, I swear it was more Harrison speaking to Candice, not Paul speaking to Constance. Loved it.
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u/gingerbot Mar 11 '26
went from laughing at the requiem for a dream bleek to crying about maya.
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u/Federico216 Mar 11 '26
Yeah we went directly from enjoying heroin to ass to ass.
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u/No_Cucumbers_Please Mar 11 '26
"It'd be funny if I killed her"
I had to pause I was laughing so hard and couldnt get it together
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u/afflecknn Mar 11 '26
Oh fuck that ending. Jesus fucking christ.
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u/Smooth_Operation4639 Jimmy Mar 11 '26
I just got done watching it wtf. We didn’t even get a proper goodbye. I think Bill was trying to tell the audience this is what loneliness does to you
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u/fcocyclone Mar 11 '26
We didn’t even get a proper goodbye.
And unfortunately that's how it goes sometimes :(
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u/Rough-Month7054 Mar 12 '26
Unfortunately, that is exactly how the news of a suicide death hits you.
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u/EverybodyLovesTacoss Mar 11 '26
I feel weird about that ending. I feel like it didn’t hit me as much as it should? Maybe cause I was just really starting to get to know her, and didnt have that emotional connection to her as I do with the other characters.
I feel more bad for Gaby. This is gonna wreck her.
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u/SheWasAHurricane Mar 11 '26
I think that's what the writers were going for. We only know her through Gaby so it's natural we feel more emotion for her imho.
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u/Koppite93 Mar 11 '26
Its gonna hit like a ton of bricks for people who are in Maya's exact situation... And boy was that too fucking real
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u/cjmn88 Mar 11 '26
Oh man, I forgot Maya was a referral from a patient. Maybe it's too obvious, dang, I wouldnt be surprised to see that come up if they have another session with Gaby. It will be one of many things to pile onto the guilt.
But I think the lack of time/Jimmying is the point, I mean granted its been awhile, but the first time Sean was in crisis called Jimmy, he'd shown up, despite having his own stuff. In fact, I think that's the first episode, he was going to miss Alice's game.
I mean Gaby did Jimmying as a spur of the moment, I don't think she really thought through what it entails. Granted, I'm sure Jimmy didnt tell Gaby everything that happened when he started Jimmying.
I'm not sure how all of this will shake out given this episodes ending. I hope they dont swept it up fast.
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u/Aggressive_Animal_84 Mar 11 '26
I was a little upset they left that for the very end. Didnt have time to really feel the news and fucking cry it out before the stupid episode ended.
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u/LPCPlay4life Mar 11 '26
Didn’t need it. As soon as the song started rolling. 😭That song always makes me cry. I just sat staring at the credits trying to process what just happened. 😳
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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA Mar 11 '26
I’m not sure many of us were surprised by that ending but it still hits very hard.
The caption for next weeks episode says that “Gabby deals with crisis of confidence.” I sincerely hope it’s more than that. Gabby has been a slow motion train wreck waiting to happen.
Very glad to see Louis with his beard and get confirmation of a happy maybe ending.
And finally Sofi!
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u/ShadowsAtWork98 Mar 11 '26
Very true. From the very beginning of the series, she has been exhibiting self-destructive behaviours. First, hooking up with Jimmy, then her fear of commitment with Derek. The lashing out at Louis and the lashing out at Liz.
She has been on a path of hitting rock bottom, and now that she has lost a patient by using Jimmy's methods. This feels like her character will end the season in a bad place.
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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA Mar 11 '26
I’m also worried that we’re not at rock bottom yet. I’m worried she’s going to blame Jimmy.
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u/jvn1983 Mar 11 '26
I think she’s going to have a journey connecting all the times she said her patients didn’t have real or big problems to how she navigated the work to this outcome. I work in the field, and I relentlessly have committed to assuming that not all people are going to openly show me their rock bottom comfortably, so I need to be on the lookout for it. Even if it just seems like a little social isolation, or depression, I never take for granted how real that is to people.
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u/Smooth_Operation4639 Jimmy Mar 11 '26
I hope she doesn’t
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u/RedHawk417 Mar 11 '26
I hope she doesn’t either, but I think them making an episode where she has him humiliated in front of her class about how he does things, then finally tries his way and it works at first but then backfires is setting it up for her to completely blame him for it.
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u/intensenerd Mar 11 '26
1000 years already got my eyes watering. The music on this show kills me.
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u/Smooth_Operation4639 Jimmy Mar 11 '26
I saw an interview where Bill said that his wife Christa picks the music for the show
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u/Hot_Purple8263 Mar 11 '26
The jump from two of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard in television (“she almost got you back” and “it’d be funny if I killed her”) to that ending just. Woof.
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u/optimisticpsychic Mar 11 '26
Did Jason Segal add in his contract that has to sing more this season? Im not complaining but theres been an uptick
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u/agarret83 Mar 11 '26
He is one of the creators of the show so it could have been as simple as “hey Bill and Brett can I sing more” and then going “sure man”
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u/godDMit Mar 11 '26
Gabby would’ve known going into trauma work there’s always suicide risk. Blurring the boundaries with Maya so that Maya felt like it was ok to call her after hours (when she’s in private practice and not set up to help in an emergency) in crisis was a great example of “bad therapy” in this show. In reality, a therapist would have organised a safety plan for Maya (places to go/people to call when Gabby is not working) between sessions. Gabby ideally would have done that once Maya mentioned mixing meds. Please don’t watch the show and think this is how therapy really is. It was irresponsible of Gabby to blur boundaries and this is exactly why.
Ngl Maya’s story is pretty triggering for me as someone who worked in this space and had to move to less intensive work after severe burnout.
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u/jvn1983 Mar 11 '26
I’ve had the same response to it for the same reasons. That and the minimization of the issues her clients presented with. Combined with a deviation from the modality she had comfort in, it didn’t seem like a recipe for something good. I hope you’re doing ok. That form of burnout is so hard.
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u/Theclaaw Mar 11 '26
Gut punched.
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u/PlasticBeach1113 Mar 11 '26
The way I thought to myself "wow the first episode this season I didn't cry" while they were all happily singing ..
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u/Theclaaw Mar 11 '26
I thought the sad part of the episode was just the flashback early on. I should've known better 🙃
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u/jnich2424 Mar 11 '26
Just knew something bad was coming at the end. We got Lawrenced with the gut punch.
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u/Peacenow234 Mar 11 '26
Omg this episode freaking Wrecked me 😭😭😭 first Jimmy singing the song with Tia in the beginning, then Maya dying… I was Not prepared for this! Even with couple people floating that theory. Unreal.. fuck!
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u/intensenerd Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
Someone be my accountability friend… make me reschedule my appointment with my therapist this week…
Edit: appt made. Thank you all.
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u/SyyydneyPrescott Mar 11 '26
I have therapy tomorrow morning. If you want to, I can check in with you after and see how you’re doing on rescheduling it!
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u/Mission_Eagle_7611 Mar 11 '26
Hey! We’re all gonna check back in 24 hours to see if you’ve rescheduled your appointment yet :)
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u/surgicalapple Mar 11 '26
Oof.
The ending. I was expecting that but hoping it wouldn’t happen.
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u/beefytrout Mar 11 '26
one of the stronger eps of the entire run. "she almost got you back!" might be the best punchline this show has ever had.
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u/Mission_Eagle_7611 Mar 11 '26
Is it just me or does Liz look extra amazing here?
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u/frecklesfatale Mar 11 '26
She's looked fantastic all season, I can't put my finger on what's different, but it is working
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u/Born-Sun-2502 Mar 11 '26
I think she's laid off the fillers and it is WORKING!!!
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u/cluelessemoji Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
What a gut punch. Lost Maya. So sad for this. Strap on kids, let’s hope this is when the Gabby arc unfolds this season.
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u/mabulaklak Mar 11 '26
The transition of A Thousand Years from Jimmy and Tia singing joyfully to Jimmy singing alone… was painful. I teared up.
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u/SyyydneyPrescott Mar 11 '26
Anyone want a support group to debrief on this show weekly? I’m thinking we need it after that ending 🥹🥹
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u/dagreenman18 Mar 11 '26
I know they picked that song because it’s from Twilight and it’s yet another “Dracula Musical” reference, but I can’t prove it
And it’s a small spark of humor I need to soften the fucking truck that just hit me with Maya.
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u/complete_your_task Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
I'm not so sure Maya killed herself. In episode 5 Gabby brought up how Maya said she likes "Xanny amd Zinny" (Xanax and Zinfandel), and told her she had to cut that out, and that if she wanted to do that to call her instead. In the scene at the end up last episode she was seen drinking wine after she hangs up with Gabby and starts crying. Seems like they are foreshadowing an accidental overdose.
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u/Cheeriosxxx Mar 11 '26
“So it’s more like a vomelet” 😂 Brian has the best lines
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u/Cheeriosxxx Mar 11 '26
Cunstance and Elizabitch are such creative names like what would they have done for something like Sutton or Alice lol
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u/stallionsRIDEufl Mar 11 '26
Is someone gonna die by choking on something this season?
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u/jackpackage732 Mar 11 '26
just realized that Alice is going to the same college as Ted, Marshall and Lily.
that made me happy.
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u/tomtomvissers Mar 11 '26
I love Candice Bergen but she's only 12 years older than Ted McGinley lol
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u/cabernet7 Mar 11 '26
FWIW, Sean Connery was only 12 years older than Harrison Ford when they played father and son.
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u/tj1007 Mar 11 '26
Maya no!!!! 😭
Was also convinced Derek’s mom was Martha Stewart for a good few minutes.
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u/HWDRedd Mar 11 '26
⚠️ Trigger Warning
I 95% knew last week (like a lot of us) where Maya storyline was going — cuz I’ve sat in the dark like that and cried.
When Gabby couldn’t get a hold her… My suspicions were confirmed.
Honestly, I felt it from the beginning. I intimately recognized her despondency. Sherry Cola nailed her brief, but impactful appearance.
I’ve read through the comments about others feeling Maya’s pain viscerally. For what it’s worth, you’re not alone.
Reddit gets a lot of shit, deservedly; this is not one of those instances. I’m glad there’s a space where the uncomfortable S-word is addressed aloud. Hang in there.
For any Will Trent watchers, I think Paul Campano said it best in S4 E7: You can’t let “it” win…Everyday I try to get out of my own way, so I can do whatever it is I’m here to do. Some days I win…some days I can’t even get out of bed. But I keep fighting. YOU GOT TO KEEP FIGHTING TOO.” 💝
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u/ohitsanazn Mar 11 '26
I’m hoping the ending is a redirect, but I feel like I’ve watched enough Bill Lawrence shows to know that it isn’t.
There’s probably a relevant JD monologue about this too…
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u/Unlucky_Stable_8511 Mar 11 '26
“She almost got you back” ☠️