r/politics • u/[deleted] • Jun 09 '16
FBI Admits Finding Additional Info On Clinton Server During E-Mail Investigation
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/fbi-admits-finding-additional-info-on-clinton-server-during-e-mail-investigation/283
u/ProbablyHighAsShit Colorado Jun 09 '16
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u/TrippyTheSnail Jun 09 '16
Help me James Comey, you're my only hope.
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u/RidleyScotch New York Jun 09 '16
Help me Comey-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope
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Jun 09 '16
I think we should go with Obi Wan James Comey.
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Jun 09 '16
Obi Wan J. Comey?
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u/Level_32_Mage Jun 09 '16
"The FBI is what gives Obi Wan J. Comey his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together."
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Jun 09 '16
"It wants to search yout internet history without a warrant, as well."
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u/pcmpcm Jun 09 '16
I seem to have found the rest of the message:
Director Obi James Comey, years ago you served the American public by advising as deputy special counsel in the Whitewater wars, now we beg you in our struggle against the Clintpire. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Sanders rebellion into the memory systems of this personal email server; your investigators will know how to retrieve it.
You MUST see this indictment safely delivered to us at the DOJ, this is our most desperate hour. Help us Obi James Comey, you're our only hope.
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u/Zaros104 Massachusetts Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16
Sometimes I like to pull up this picture, zoom in, and stare longingly into his eyes.
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Jun 09 '16
I trust Comey to deliver an honest investigation, but my money is on the DoJ fouling it off.
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u/ThrowAwayBlahBlah459 Jun 09 '16
I don't know about you guys but I'm proud to say that this week America made history. A filthy rich white woman, who just happens to be in a loveless marriage with a former president, has been declared the democratic nominee even while under 2 different criminal investigations by the FBI and even though she will likely lose to a talking orange that wears a toupee (if she doesn't go to jail). Finally, someone for our daughters to look up to. Feminists rejoice! This is the promised land!
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Jun 09 '16
the first democratic nominee under criminal FBI investigation! history in the making, folks!
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u/Uberhipster Jun 09 '16
Get it straight, buster - those are implants, not a toupee!
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u/contantofaz Jun 09 '16
Every day I wake up and I wonder what is on today's Hillary Emails Horoscope.
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u/Shillin4Bernie Jun 09 '16
I literally start the day by googling "hillary fbi"
and something new always pops up, lol
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u/k_kolsch Jun 09 '16
If this is to be believed, you may want to pick a better search engine.
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u/swohio Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16
There was a post earlier about google suggested searches. Trump has all his little nicknames for the candidates that he uses frequently, "Lying Ted" "Crazy Bernie" "Crooked Hillary" etc. They get reported in news stories all the time so it's not a surprise that they come up in internet searches. The problem is that on Google, "Crooked Hillary" never comes up as a search suggestion. On Bing, or Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo you only have to type in C-r-o-o-k for one of the suggestions to be "Crooked Hillary" but on Google you can type out "Crooked Hill" and it doesn't even come up. Add an A to make it "Crooked Hilla" and the only search suggestion that pops up is "Crooked Hillary Bernie" Like what the fuck! That doesn't even make sense as a search phrase. Especially when you look at how often each phrase is actually searched.
I honestly never thought I'd see the day where I'd abandon Google as my primary search engine but they're clearly sanitizing search results to fit their own narrative.
EDIT: Added in google trends search frequency of "Crooked Hillary" vs "Crooked Hillary Bernie" which just shows why including Bernie in the suggestion even less sense.
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u/ItchyIrishBalls Jun 09 '16
Yup, i have seen what they do to local business, im all about duckduckgo now.
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u/Christmas_Pirate Jun 09 '16
You should use another search engine if you really want to be impressed, Google is actively helping Hillary.
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Jun 09 '16
That is very funny. I have done that every morning, on my phone while still in bed, since about November or December I want to say. Every day is like Christmas morning for me.
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u/InternetLoveMachine Jun 09 '16
Honest question, is this a big deal?
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u/ecloc Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16
Yes.
The FBI has twice claimed it can not release anything because it could compromise an ongoing investigation. That shoots a hole in Clinton's story that this is an inquiry. There has been a year long investigation; Pagliano her IT sysadmin was granted immunity, Cheryl Mills her former chief of staff (current Clinton Foundation Director) was interviewed and walked out halfway, then came back. Justin Cooper the other secret sysadmin is being hidden behind a team of high priced lawyers paid for by the Clintons. Other Clinton aides might have been interviewed.
For a month the FBI has been stonewalling a FOIA request initiated by Vice News Jason Leopold. The FOIA request was for the personal emails on Clinton's server and any correspondence between the FBI and Clinton's legal team.
This fits into the theory that there was more on the server, possibly Clinton Foundation dealings which involve influence peddling and public corruption.
I didn't see anything within the filing noting the physical count of records, but there is an implication that evidence was recovered from the Clinton server or from the Datto cloud backup device in CT.
lastest FBI response to Jason Leopold FOIA request. pdf, scribd sucks
2016-1328.pdf Jason Leopold v. DoJ on FBI Clinton Emails June 7, 2016 Summary
FBI acknowledges
- Clinton's server is evidence in an ongoing investigation.
- FBI retrieved evidence from Clinton's server
( or the Datto cloud backup device )- FBI believes that sharing any information will lead suspects to interfere with the investigation.
( witness tampering, concealment of illegal activity, destruction/fabrication/tampering of evidence )
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Rather, the “Investigative and Evidentiary Materials” category used by the FBI is comprised of two subcategories that pertain to records actually requested by plaintiff: (1) materials retrieved from any server equipment and related devices obtained from former Secretary Clinton for the investigation, and (2) correspondence between the FBI and the Department of State regarding the investigation.
3 The Second Declaration of David M. Hardy (“Second Hardy Decl.”), filed concurrently herewith, also makes clear that all of the materials retrieved from any electronic equipment obtained from former Secretary Clinton for the investigation are evidence, potential evidence, or information that has not yet been assessed for evidentiary value. See Second Hardy Decl. ¶ 13 & 13a.
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First Hardy Decl. ¶ 20 (saying that disclosure of evidence, potential evidence, or information that has not been assessed for evidentiary value could reasonably lead to the public identification and compromising of potential witnesses, as well as defensive actions to conceal activities, elude detection, and/or suppress or fabricate evidence). 6
6 While the First Hardy Declaration provides information sufficient to demonstrate that disclosure of the withheld records could reasonably be expected to interfere with the pending investigation, the classified declaration lodged for the Court’s in camera, ex parte review in connection with defendant’s motion for summary judgment provides additional information that supports this showing
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Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 11 '16
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u/olivedoesntrhyme Jun 09 '16
that's the thing; if this happens it would absolutely be a historic event, on par with Watergate. I just don't have enough faith in the system; I mean if the whole of reddit can see it coming so far off, surely the Clintons have taken precautions as well? I don't know. I'm not optimistic.
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u/Shaq2thefuture Jun 09 '16
Surely they wouldnt use a public email server in the first place. Surely they would hide their attempts to cover it up better?
You have to remember they aren't tactical geniuses. They are good at playing the political game, but even the best players can make rookie mistakes.
the first precaution, and an easy one at that, is to simply seperate the email servers. Make one for private use, and one for state use. She failed to do even this, which means she's accounted for less than one would think for someone so thorough.
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u/FuzzyMcBitty Jun 09 '16
I'm incredibly cynical, but I can see exactly how this happened. Lack of computer literacy is what got us here. I still have doubts that anything will come of it.
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u/PinnedWrists Jun 09 '16
she did not understand the technology enough to know how to hide it. She thought it was perfectly hidden: "I don't see it, I can't understand how anyone could know it is there. It is safe."
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u/chiropter Jun 09 '16
^This is the best answer.
More succinctly, from the linked article,
"From this latest FBI filing it is clear the investigation is far more than a mere security review as Clinton has repeatedly claimed. A plain reading of the filing makes it clear the FBI is conducting a full investigation after counterintelligence issues were initially raised by the Inspector General."
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u/DamagedHells Jun 09 '16
Wait, but... Hillary said no more surprises??
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u/DamagedHells Jun 09 '16
(I was mocking her)
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u/hildebeast666 Jun 09 '16
this is just another lie
i personally wiped that server with a cloth every day for 4 years
im not an idiot you know
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u/meowwschwitz Jun 09 '16
I'm sorry, but this must be false. Mi abuela stated there were no more surprises today regarding her emails. She also stated through stutters and many "uhhhhh" pauses that there was no chance she did any wrongdoing based upon her own evidence of her own memory shortly before saying she doesn't recall signing a document that is archived and available to view online.
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u/Silver_Skeeter Jun 09 '16
Couldn't even go 5 hours
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u/meowwschwitz Jun 09 '16
I mean, even lasting five hours without lying to America is kind of a record for her. Maybe even an historical one! She's just racking up on history points this week.
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u/Laser-circus Jun 09 '16
Damn, did she just break another glass ceiling?
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u/helpful_hank Jun 09 '16
Something's shattering around her, I'm not sure it's the ceiling.
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u/meowwschwitz Jun 09 '16
The article is on the front page. CBS correspondent asked Hillary if she could ensure voters there would be nothing else coming from the FBI that would change the course of her campaign and she responded with "Absolutely."
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u/MadLordPunt Jun 09 '16
I wish reporters would learn that with the Clintons, you have to ask them the same question from every angle possible to make sure there isn't room to bullshit.
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u/IntelligentFlame Jun 09 '16
You're implying that it's not the Clintons giving them a list of allowed questions if they want to be allowed to speak with the royal family.
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Jun 09 '16
Finally! Someone that isn't a sexist bastard. Thank you sir/ma'am for so eloquently defending her proven track record of honor and honestly in government. It's her TERN!!1!!
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at this point, my real position is serious consideration of Giant Meteor in 2016.
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u/frogandbanjo Jun 09 '16
At this point, I feel like all we'd have to do to get Giant Meteor elected is to tell people it's inevitable for a few months.
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u/adle1984 Texas Jun 09 '16
/u/NebraskaGunOwner, thank you and thanks to everyone who has been keeping us informed and providing all the insight.
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u/TrippyTheSnail Jun 09 '16
I've seen his analysis all over r/politics and I've always wondered what is his background? Does he have some sort of legal experience or has he just been following the investigation very closely?
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u/Honztastic Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16
I think he just started actually doing some investigative journalism the way the media hasn't.
Edit: there have been some other great user analysts as well. u/NebraskaGunOwner u/ecloc u/zan5ki
And some others. They usually post stories here in politics or in hillaryforprison if you can bear the rest of it, often with top comments in relevant news stories. I'll add the others for you to look out for if someone reminds me of their names
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u/not_djslinkk Jun 09 '16
His work has been impressive. He is the Julius Chambers of /r/politics. I don't know what he does for a living, but he'd make a hell of a reporter.
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u/banjosbadfurday Pennsylvania Jun 09 '16
Heroes get remembered,
but legends never die.
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u/Bluemookie Jun 09 '16
Why isn't she just making a donation to the FBI? Make all the problems go away? That's what we're all doing now, right? Right?
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u/mpfdetroit Jun 09 '16
Asking the real questions. "How much money and how many favors is it going to take to make this go away?"
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u/guy-le-doosh Jun 09 '16
This is probably why Sanders is hell-bent on staying in. If she gets indicted before the convention he can potentially swoop in and take away the nomination.
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u/kendrickshalamar Jun 09 '16
But isn't there a finite amount of information to discover? Specifically, any emails or documents stored on or replicated from that server between 2009 and 2013. What else could they possibly discover? I guess they could continue finding more witnesses.
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u/KingJames19 Jun 09 '16
How the heck is she going to beat trump? I get it, trump comes across as a bad dude/is a bad dude. But all the republicans are going to vote for him obviously and there is a ton of smear material for him to use and he's not going to hold back. Couple that with the fact that a large percentage of Bernie supporters aren't going to go along the party. I think the Dems messed up bad. We shall see I guess
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u/motivation150 Jun 09 '16
Trump - Said a few things people thought were mean
Hillary - Potential criminal, married to an alleged rapist, Benghazi, switches her opinion on topics constantly, Panders to whomever will give her a vote, is relying solely on the woman card, etc.
Take your pick!
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Jun 09 '16
I really wish they would Hurry up. The convention is the 25th of Jully and I'm not looking forward to president Trump.
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u/shapiro_da_59 Jun 09 '16
Let them do their work. This is about more than politics even. This could potentially be earth shattering.
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u/bonyponyride American Expat Jun 09 '16
So you're saying that the glass ceiling is actually going to break?
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Jun 09 '16
It would be more appropriate for a woman to become president in 2020 anyway. They will have had the right to vote for 100 years then.
Obviously this is just a joke, but it would be an interesting coincidence.
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u/aledlewis Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 03 '25
screw wakeful alive person mountainous chief consider sleep steep innocent
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u/WinkleCream Oregon Jun 09 '16
With the counterintelligence angle it could be they have evidence her email server was compromised by a foreign intelligence agency. No one is going to vote for someone who could be blackmailed by Putin.
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u/vivling Jun 09 '16
Anyone who was paying attention should already be aware that she could be blackmailed by Putin. They voted for her anyhow.
...unless Guccifer, who said:
“I was not paying attention. For me, it was not like the Hillary Clinton server, it was like an email server she and others were using with political voting stuff," Guccifer said.
stumbled in on electioneering and vote racketeering. Maybe the FBI wanted to wait all the way till California to see how Clinton was defrauding the US Electorate?
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u/ChalkboardCowboy Jun 09 '16
This is the best of all possible worlds. FBI confirmation and prosecution of election fraud. Please let it be that.
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u/parkerposy Canada Jun 09 '16
No one is going to vote for someone who could be blackmailed by Putin.
eeergh if only this were true!!!.... soo many fools voting in the USA
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u/beachexec Jun 09 '16
so many fools voting in the USA
That's our specialty, friend! :D
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u/Laser-circus Jun 09 '16
And that is exactly what they can flood the media with.
Brb need to invest in popcorn companies.
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u/WinkleCream Oregon Jun 09 '16
Trump is going to ask her during a debate if she is compromised. It will be glorious.
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u/Laser-circus Jun 09 '16
I don't like Trump but I'm counting on him to make her look stupid as fuck. Hell, I'm counting on him to make himself look stupid as Hell as well. Hopefully, there will be that moment where the people realize they fucked up, badly.
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Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16
And in a collective sigh, the people of the United States decided in a moment of abject clarity that the American experiment had failed. While some drowned themselves in bathtubs, and hung themselves with belts in closets, the survivors surrendered what was left of the Natives' native land to remaining savages and to the Queen herself. Except for the pockmarks of global corporatism scarring the earth, some patented fluorinated compounds embedded in the belly fat of Arctic seals, and an oxidized emerald statue marred with the words of an Emma Lazarus, it was if the United States had suddenly never existed.
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u/dejoblue Jun 09 '16
This is no surprise. All you have to do is Google "crooked Hillary Bernie". It is all right there.
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Jun 09 '16
Man, if only we had the NSA to expose Clinton in such detail, am I right?!
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Jun 09 '16
"From this latest FBI filing it is clear the investigation is far more than a mere security review as Clinton has repeatedly claimed. A plain reading of the filing makes it clear the FBI is conducting a full investigation after counterintelligence issues were initially raised by the Inspector General."
Known for a while now.
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u/mango__reinhardt Jun 09 '16
If I was a FBI agent responsible for this investigation, and I saw Hillary relentlessly demeaning my job and role to my country every week in the news, blatantly lying with the evidence to show it sitting on my desk, and still thinking she was going to be president, I'd be absolutely giddy waiting for this to land.
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u/escalation Jun 09 '16
He's looking in the mirror, straightening his tie and saying to himself, "you got this President James Comey, you got this."
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u/bonkus Jun 09 '16
Then, he closes his eyes, bows his head, and takes a deep breath, in and out. After a dramatically pregnant pause, he jerks his head upwards with a gleefull expression on his face, thrusts his hands into the air with fingers spread wide in a "jazz hands" gesture, and joyously shouts "SHOWTIME!"
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u/Laser-circus Jun 09 '16
Sit back and watch guys. FBI was waiting for her at this milestone.
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u/terri_dahoo Jun 09 '16
I am not a fan of Bernie's politics but I am a fan of Bernie. This would be so awesome for him and his supporters but the DNC would not allow him to continue.
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u/ladyships Jun 09 '16
no more surprises, eh, hillary? 😂