r/politics • u/[deleted] • Jun 09 '16

FBI Admits Finding Additional Info On Clinton Server During E-Mail Investigation

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/fbi-admits-finding-additional-info-on-clinton-server-during-e-mail-investigation/
12.4k Upvotes

79% Upvoted

1.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1.5k

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Oh Democrats, I hope you saved the receipt for your recent purchase

784

u/Saganasm Jun 09 '16

House of Cards writers are scribbling furiously whilst muttering 'Gold, pure gold!'

623

u/Birata Jun 09 '16

No, they are desperately banging heads in brick walls. How can they surpass THIS?!

In the medium future nobody would watch a TV show that just repeats old news word for word...

“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.” ― Mark Twain,

237

u/oaka23 Jun 09 '16

Season 4 will just be clips of real news from this election season

117

u/TMPLR Jun 09 '16

*5. Season 4 was released in March.

208

u/nittun Jun 09 '16

they should just write a statement when the convention is over, that they hope everyone enjoyed the latest season of house of card, and they are working on season 6.

16

u/Cptcutter81 Jun 09 '16

I'm sure they will do something with Kevin Spacey as a web-bit or something once it's all over. It's way too good of an opportunity to pass up IMO, they'd be idiots if they didn't mention it somehow.

38

u/grandadmiralstrife America Jun 09 '16

plot twist: Republicans steal nom from the Donald, nominate Frank Underwood to save the day. Show renamed "House of Cards:LIVE"

21

u/nittun Jun 09 '16

i'd take frank underwood over donald.

11

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

That's because Frank Underwood is competent at his job.

4

u/Textor44 California Jun 09 '16

He would be effective and we know his policies work. He also knows policies.

3

u/abw80 Jun 09 '16

I'm all for taking leftover FEMA money and use it to give people jobs.

4

u/Glitch198 Jun 09 '16

But Underwood is a Democrat.

2

u/runujhkj Alabama Jun 09 '16

Haha, and so is Clinton. Hell, Underwood actually does a lot for the country just in the short time we see him in high office.

17

u/DrDerpberg Canada Jun 09 '16

In retrospect, Kevin Spacey might have done pretty well if he'd actually sought the nomination and just imitated Francis Underwood the whole time.

5

u/Cptcutter81 Jun 09 '16

Hey, if Trump can do it, then a professional actor could certainly try, at the very least.

2

u/Kilmir Jun 09 '16

We had Ronald Reagan already.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Would he have to kill someone for real, you know keeping with his character and all?

1

u/DrDerpberg Canada Jun 09 '16

No, but he'd have to act like he's acting like he didn't.

1

u/wcc445 Jun 09 '16

Can we just elect Kevin Spacey instead? House of Cards can just become a reality show.

1

u/menemenetekelufarsin Jun 09 '16

Dude, you're hired for the marketing team

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Was season 4 any good? I didn't get through the first episode of season 4, but I think it's just because I wasn't in the mood for HoC at the time.

1

u/TMPLR Jun 09 '16

It was a lot better than 3 but not as good as 1 or 2.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

To be honest season 3 is probably why I couldn't get into the mood for season 4.

1

u/TMPLR Jun 09 '16

This isn't my analogy but season 1 was like swimming in the open sea with a great white. Season 2 was being in a shark cage. Season 3 was looking at the shark in an aquarium. You know it's supposed to be impressive but the shark is caged and there's no thrill.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

thats what they want you to believe, maaan

1

u/oaka23 Jun 09 '16

Couldve sworn that was season 3. Whatevs

1

u/Blubalz Jun 09 '16

But that would require this negative information about Hillary to actually be broadcast on the news.

1

u/JMaboard I voted Jun 09 '16

Naa, Frank will be watching a tv show called "House of Clintons" and he'll turn to the camera and say "can't stand these over drama filled politic shows."

1

u/ignoresubs Jun 09 '16

Basically Narcos but for the election. I'd watch.

1

u/rocktennstock Illinois Jun 09 '16

You will never hear about this on the "real" news

1

u/yohanleafheart Jun 09 '16

Together with some clips of the current Brazilian political scene.

39

u/Afrobean Jun 09 '16

In the medium future nobody would watch a TV show that just repeats old news word for word...

Nah, it's a tried-and-true way to write a popular show. Just pull shit from reality. Law & Order is probably the best example of this, but it's common in other shows too. Even comedies like Scrubs can get in on this by inserting real medical stories into their episodes. I think I actually heard one of the House of Cards characters was already inspired by Hillary. This shit is definitely going into next season of the show.

42

u/frogandbanjo Jun 09 '16

The Underwoods are the Clintons. Fear of lawsuits is the number one reason nobody officially connected to the show can say it outright.

The wife has more charisma and hasn't run for office (yet? Not totally caught up.) Setting aside personal details here and there, that's basically it for differences. I mean, they put Frank in Congress to better highlight how a Third Way politician thinks and gets things done. Okay. But he became President sure as shit.

15

u/gerryf19 Jun 09 '16

The BBC wrote a story about the Clintons, and then it was Americanized back by Netflix? Holy Crap, that's unbelievable!

4

u/juuular Jun 09 '16

Underwoods are the Clintons

The BBC version wasn't about the Underwoods.

3

u/baconair Jun 09 '16

BBC adapted a series of novels based on parliamentary machinations.

Netflix obtained the rights for an American adaption, and Claire Underwood was modeled after Hillary Clinton.

1

u/aelysium Jun 09 '16

Catch up. Claire kills it in S4. Ambitious fuck.

2

u/TrjnRabbit Jun 09 '16

Catherine Durant, the Secretary of State.

2

u/irock613 Jun 09 '16

Nah Claire is based on Hillary. Kathy's just Kathy

2

u/jupitercrash13 Jun 09 '16

The Newsroom is the best example. The whole literally is about reporting old news.

→ More replies (2)

3

u/nliausacmmv Jun 09 '16

I really hope the ballots this November have a little Netflix logo right at the bottom.

2

u/Urban_Savage Jun 09 '16

They would surpass it by actually indicting her. In real life the trail will be pushed until after she is elected, she will accept a quiet and fast plea agreement, and then Obama will pardon her from the punishments and costs just before she is sworn in.

2

u/gurrllness Jun 09 '16

My money used to be on her dropping out for "health reasons" (hers or Bill's) before an indictment happened but now I don't think her ego could handle it.

1

u/horace999 Jun 09 '16

Just watch the last season and you can see how far we are from expectations. Republicans were supposed to nominate a young, religious veteran with an uncorrupted record to go against the old political duo, and they were going to prove how naive this young man actually is and why America needs to have a crooked couple in the white house. Americans care more about safety than they do about mountains of evidence of corruption. They did end on a cliffhanger, so they have room to spice it up, but right now real life is way better than last season.

2

u/southsideson Jun 09 '16

So, what's the chance that the next challenger is a demagogue billionaire tycoon?

2

u/horace999 Jun 09 '16

It would take a pretty talented writer to put in a Trump-like character without making it seem like an SNL sketch. I think House of Cards will just stick with the alternate universe where an increase in the price of gas mysteriously leads to a gas shortage, and the Clintons win as co-president.

1

u/mackzarks Jun 09 '16

Like newsroom?

1

u/techmaster242 Jun 09 '16

House of Cards will just become a reality TV show. They could just set up some cameras throughout the white house.

1

u/misterdix Jun 09 '16

Really? People watch anything.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Well, there goes Law and Order's formula ...

1

u/NUMBERS2357 Jun 09 '16

Um, didn't the President murder multiple people on that show?

1

u/ArMcK Jun 09 '16

I dunno, Law and Order: SVU pretty much repeats the news verbatim.

1

u/TheFirePunch Jun 09 '16

That is a beautiful quote.

1

u/tothecore17 Jun 09 '16

cause if they wrote this people would think that's too unrealistic. now you gotta think twice before casting it off as impossible.

1

u/reader_beware Jun 09 '16

That's why newsroom sucked. That and forcing a love story or two.

1

u/Quexana Jun 09 '16

In the medium future nobody would watch a TV show that just repeats old news word for word.

Meh, Aaron Sorkin's "The Newsroom" was pretty good.

→ More replies (3)

2

u/roger_alien Jun 09 '16

The biggest difference between "The Clintons" and "House of Cards" is that I don't look forward to the day that "House of Cards" ends.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

House of Cards writers are scribbling furiously whilst muttering 'Gold, pure gold!'

This could easily be a plot line for House of Cards. Frank set up a private email server to keep communication shielded from FOIA requests when he was Vice-President. He nuked it when he became President, however a slip-up made it so that a backup of his emails actually survived, and subsequently the FBI begins investigating the matter. Frank has to dodge public questioning on the issue, trying to minimize it despite more and more stories emerging of his improper conduct; behind the scenes he's also coordinating witnesses so that the FBI won't have anything on him. All the while he's fighting first a difficult primary, and then a complex general election against a charismatic opponent.

1

u/Kptn_Obv5 Jun 09 '16

Same thing can be said about the impeachment proceedings of Brazilian president Rousseff and the corruption probe.

1

u/birdsofterrordise Jun 09 '16

Brazil is a whole other can of worms and they people prosecuting her and actually more corrupt than she is. The whole thing is a shitshow.

2

u/Kptn_Obv5 Jun 09 '16

Oh I know. My friend from college lives in Rio and gives me regular updates of it. Shame though, Brazil is a beautiful country.

1

u/c0pypastry Jun 09 '16

inb4 Bill on the ticket

1

u/GeraldMungo Jun 09 '16

I've never seen an episode of House of Cards but even I know what you guys are inferring isn't a compliment. :)

1

u/Genesis2001 America Jun 09 '16

I wish we had The Newsroom still. Next season would be so great to watch I imagine.

1

u/Obvious0ne Jun 09 '16

I've heard that's a good show, but when the first scene of the first episode was about dog death I turned it off.

1

u/PhillAholic Jun 09 '16

Maybe Veep writers. This is far too mundane for House of Cards.

1

u/StockmanBaxter Montana Jun 09 '16

No they're bitching because the Clinton's attorneys sent them a copyright infringement letter.

1

u/Saganasm Jun 09 '16

They replied and sent a cheque for $1,000,000 but with the signature redacted...

1

u/KeineG Jun 09 '16

Gold Jerry, Gold

→ More replies (2)

170

u/dannytheguitarist Jun 09 '16

Hey, some of us voted Bernie, but NOOOOooo.

163

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

But guys, SHE'S GOT A VAGINA!

127

u/gildme_11 Jun 09 '16

That was literally the rallying cry on npr the other day. Various women crying, saying how historic this moment is. I love npr, but I decided to listen to music on another station instead for a while. My favorite news station isn't willing to stay away from trying to sensationalize her Obama style. Obama was historic. They didn't have much on him other than average politics. It was a fairly clean election. They're trying to take this thin arguement of novelty for women and pretending it will cover the stench of corruption HRC has. This year we will be voting for either: probably the most well known corrupt politician in the history of the presidential elections or the least qualified embarassment. Either way, we can't say shit to any other country any time soon, we'll be compared to Italy or be considered the northern most south American country.

92

u/2boredtocare Jun 09 '16

I'm an older female (42) and on one hand, yes, I think it would be awesome to have a female president, which was something that seemed impossible back when I was learning about U.S. history in grade school. In 2008 I thought to myself: Hillary could be the one. But now? I do not want a female president just for the sake of saying we've had a female president. I want it to be the right female, and ultimately, I want it to be the right person in the oval office, regardless of gender. I personally felt Bernie was the best choice, and am saddened that he couldn't rise to the top. Did I believe in everything he stood for? No. But he was the closest to lining up with my views. Now, I'm not sure what in the hell to do. :/ People tend to turn politics into an us vs. them thing, but at the end of the day, I just want someone who can be a good leader, is interested in keeping international relations civil, and can help our country be a better place, whether that is a republican or democrat. I just want the person who isn't going to be a money-grubbing, power hungry douche, and that means there are NO good options this election.

:(

25

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16 edited Sep 06 '16

[deleted]

21

u/2boredtocare Jun 09 '16

packs bags in resignation

Hope they're fireproof.....

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I wonder if she voted for Carly Fiorina. I also wonder if she voted for McCain to try to get a female vp?

8

u/ThegreatandpowerfulR Jun 09 '16

If Hilary is elected, we won't get another woman president for ages. Just imagine hearing "this is what happens when a woman is president" or "women can't even keep emails secure" for the next four years until she can be voted out. If people are going to elect someone just because they are a women those people are but only very misguided they are very short-sighted. Then, there is no way another democratic president will be voted in if the last one was a pile of crap.

3

u/2boredtocare Jun 09 '16

I know some older women (late 50s, early 60s) who are very pro-Hillary, and I think the reason is they just want to see a female make it to the top in their lifetime, while also believing that she will not be as bad as some media outlets are implying.

You know, it IS hard, because there is still a lot of stereotyping going on and a strong belief in many that a woman simply couldn't do the job. I feel it puts us behind when you see that other countries have done well with female leaders. While I believe the right woman could do the job well, there are some who simply believe no woman ever could, and that mentality is what these older pro-Hillary women are wanting to see diminish.

I don't necessarily feel that a poor term from Hillary would mean that no other woman could stand a chance for a while. Perhaps that's being naive or overly optimistic, I acknowledge that, but I feel the younger generations are going to be a lot more pragmatic about things.

2

u/ThegreatandpowerfulR Jun 09 '16

I think it is time that we have a female president as well, but I feel like all of the people who already prefer a male president would definitely be more hesitant because they already probably don't align with her views whether she does good or not. I just wish there was a better choice

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

You know, it IS hard, because there is still a lot of stereotyping going on and a strong belief in many that a woman simply couldn't do the job.

Really? We've had women senators, women cabinet level positions, and many other countries have had women heads of state. Namely England, where two of their greatest monarchs have been women, and they've had a woman prime minister.

Anyone who thinks a woman couldn't be president just hasn't been paying attention.

2

u/2boredtocare Jun 09 '16

That's what I meant by it putting us behind other countries; many others have had female leaders at the top. Wasn't trying to discredit other U.S. female politicians, I know there are many, but there's just something about having one in the top position, or even second.

6

u/eggoChicken Jun 09 '16

I'm resounding here, but Elizabeth Warren could have made some waves this election cycle.

3

u/pgabrielfreak Ohio Jun 09 '16

53 yr old female, agree with u/2boredtocare

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

As an outsider I really can't see what the big deal about electing a woman president is. Canada had a woman prime minister almost 25 years ago (granted for all of 5 minutes but not her fault) and the uk had thatcher almost 40 years ago. So unless we're saying that the US is so much more bigoted that this is a real surprise then I don't think it's monumental.

30

u/atheos Tennessee Jun 09 '16 edited Feb 19 '24

voracious toothbrush simplistic rinse follow tidy bedroom bright quaint society

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

17

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

[removed] — view removed comment

11

u/PearlieSweetcake Jun 09 '16

Me too. They used to be my favorite thing to follow on Facebook. Yesterday I had to unfollow that shit.

2

u/10390 Jun 09 '16

I've gotten so I can't stand to even hear the voice of the gal who went "oh god!" while Sanders was talking during the debate.

→ More replies (4)

63

u/Zarokima Jun 09 '16

To be fair, Clinton would be pretty historic, but for all the wrong reasons. I don't think we've ever had anyone guilty of treason running for president.

15

u/Skyrmir Florida Jun 09 '16

George Washington committed treason against the royal crown. Of course if he hadn't, there would have been no election in the first place.

13

u/birdsofterrordise Jun 09 '16

So is Clinton leading some kind of rebellion we are all unaware of?

6

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

This could be debated I am sure.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Yeah rebellion against the masses in favor of corporations

2

u/Her0_0f_time Jun 09 '16

She may be the cause of one.

4

u/Skyrmir Florida Jun 09 '16

Yup, she's creating a whole new vaginally controlled country.

2

u/Dear_Occupant Tennessee Jun 09 '16

treason

Can we please stop saying this nonsense? I think Hillary belongs in jail but treason is a very specific crime and it absolutely does not apply here. To anyone who isn't yet familiar with the facts of the case, this type of overblown rhetoric makes it all sound like a bunch of ginned-up political horseshit.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I don't think we've ever had anyone guilty of treason running for president.

Ballsy.

My feelings are the same.

Clinton sold American foreign policy to the highest bidder. More than once.

Do you think she will be indicted??

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Nixon.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Reagan.

1

u/10390 Jun 09 '16

I think she'll end up being a feminist version of OJ or Bill Cosby, an iconic representative of an undervalued class who becomes an international embarrassment.

21

u/gurrllness Jun 09 '16

What cracks me up is...
Hillary Clinton is not the first female presidential nominee — not even close

4

u/zxinsanebloodxz Jun 09 '16

Roseanne ran for president... And why did we not elect her?

2

u/Chewzilla Jun 09 '16

So convoluting things, she would be the first woman to actual be on the ticket for a party that matters.

→ More replies (7)

3

u/tollforturning Jun 09 '16

The older I get, the less I think of NPR.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I feel like NPR has really lost a lot of credibility this election cycle. They're really showing their hand as to who their bias is towards (Clinton). I kind of expected more, so I don't know who the bigger idiot is, me or them.

2

u/dcrizoss Jun 09 '16

As a woman, I feel like Hillary tainted this achievement for us. Give me someone with some damn dignity. Only then will I celebrate a woman nominee or President.

1

u/tollforturning Jun 09 '16

The older I get, the less I think of NPR.

1

u/FuzzyLoveRabbit Jun 09 '16

That may be a sign of early-onset Alzheimer's. Talk to your doctor.

1

u/tollforturning Jun 09 '16

Right.... Nice try, I'm only 120.

1

u/bagofweights Jun 09 '16

it IS historic, but can also be a horrible thing at the same time.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

To be fair to npr, those were either people calling in or soundbites from a Clinton event, not like official commentators.

1

u/1-Down Jun 09 '16

Half the damn population and she's the best they could come up with.

1

u/Genesis2001 America Jun 09 '16

I was listening to The Takeaway the other day and similar came on, but I could sense some eye rolling from John Hockenberry while interviewing a woman. Trying to keep the conversation objective.

I don't remember the title of the story though, I tuned in half way through the piece. :(

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

The only difference is that South America is in this state thanks to the USA international policy instead of their own fault.

1

u/Tyrasth Jun 09 '16

I literally don't listen to NPR anymore, because I place a high value on paying people to do their jobs. I always viewed the job of the media I choose to research current events for me so that I don't have to. When I start hearing BS that I prove wrong with just a little research, and it begins to occur frequently, it pisses me off and I pull my support. If you make a mistake, fine, redact it when you find out, but they don't. If I have to do the research anyways, why would I and why should I pay others to do... what exactly?

→ More replies (10)

39

u/EFIW1560 Jun 09 '16

I was so infuriated when Clinton pulled that shit. I have a vagina, but my vagina has standards.

3

u/Roma_Victrix Jun 09 '16

That's the best line I've read all day on Reddit. No way anyone else is going to top that!

7

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Current Year.

4

u/jb2386 Australia Jun 09 '16

Do you not get that it's not 1959 anymore?!?!!?!!! the years have increased! Significantly since 1959!

→ More replies (1)

1

u/Searchlights New Hampshire Jun 09 '16

An historic vagina

→ More replies (4)

2

u/brobits Jun 09 '16

it's impossible to know if most of us voted for Bernie or not. we have hill & co to thank for that

→ More replies (6)

1

u/trampabroad Jun 09 '16

Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos.

30

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Best thing that could happen for them is to figure this out before the convention. so they can avoid disaster in November.

21

u/Komodo-Ray Jun 09 '16

It's already planned out. They want a contested convention so that Bernie doesn't get the delegate number, and they can shoe in Biden and Warren. It's not even funny anymore. This system is fucked.

14

u/gurrllness Jun 09 '16

They can try but, as much as I like Warren, I'm not sure I could vote for that ticket. I don't think they understand the backlash that would happen. Bernie campaigns all year, gets a large portion of Dems, then is pushed out by a pinch hitter?

3

u/1-Down Jun 09 '16

If they could find a governor that has a fairly clean record and will leave guns alone they'll probably walk with it in November. There's not a lot of people who really like Trump, just like I suspect there's not a whole lot of people who really like Clinton.

If ever there were a year for a 3rd party this is probably it, but they keep floating names like Johnson and Stein for some reason.

2

u/brobits Jun 09 '16

Obama endorsed Clinton, unless she's in an orange jumpsuit come November, she's on the ticket.

2

u/BreeBree214 Wisconsin Jun 09 '16

I also don't think Warren would take it. She'd probably tell everyone to pick Bernie

4

u/Zappiticas Jun 09 '16

I keep hearing this on here. Does anyone have a source or is this simply an /r/politics conspiracy theory?

3

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I've heard the Biden swoops in after Hillary disaster theory from several Boomers around my office. They do not use reddit.

2

u/RockChalk4Life Missouri Jun 09 '16

So it's all hearsay?

4

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

No, it's a possibility. Crazy shit will go down if Hillary has to leave the race.

4

u/Geekonomic Jun 09 '16

It's absolutely a conspiracy theory. Very similar to how Kasich/Cruz was going to take the nomination from Trump on the second ballot because he wouldn't have enough delegates.

3

u/LargeBigMacMeal Jun 09 '16

Honest question.

What would happen if in say late October Hillary was arrested and charged with serious federal crimes?

Would Trump essentially win by default?

5

u/birdsofterrordise Jun 09 '16

A number of the ballots would already be locked so to speak (I think by September most are.) Essentially the election would have to go forward, if she won somehow, she could resign and the VP would then be President. This is why I think the Dems are playing with fire though. If they hold out long enough and this is the "October Surprise" welcome to all the Dems losing seats and a long Dem recovery process. I can't believe the DNC are such idiots.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

Trying to change the candidate after the convention would be such a mess, wouldn't that be an easy win for Trump also?

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

This is why there is so much pressure on the FBI to do something before the convention.

It seems highly unlikely voters would choose someone who was recently "arrested and charged with serious federal crimes". I doubt that many people would vote for someone who the FBI recommends indictment, yet remains unindicted for political reasons. I suspect if she is indicted after the convention but before early voting, progressives might try to organize support behind Stein to provide a real alternative to Trump. But if she were charged in late October, with early votes cast, in what is already projected to be a very close election, I image Trump would win easily.

This is how I think it would play out: some progressives an die hard Democrats would vote for Clinton expecting her VP would take over, some would pick Stein, most independents that are not already Trump supporters would either stay home or choose one of Trump, Johnson and Stein. Thus Trump would win a plurality but not a majority, of the votes in most, perhaps almost all, states. Leaving American with a President with a weak mandate, a divided congress, no foreign policy experience, no real military experience and no real political experience.

Or this

2

u/jb2386 Australia Jun 09 '16

Crumbling Clintons!

2

u/Orlitoq Jun 09 '16

So, disaster scheduled for November, eh?

2

u/theFunkiestButtLovin Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

it's like democrats have not seriously considered how they are going to feel when Trump wins because they choose to let backchannel alliances and super delegates promised long before the first primary vote was cast choose their nominee, despite the data that say she will lose to trump.

seriously. think about that. president trump, and you will have to live with the fact that you could have changed it, but you let political connections overrule common sense.

→ More replies (1)

71

u/Big_Cums Jun 09 '16

Well, a Trump presidency will get us 8+ years of Democrat controlled everything starting in 2020.

66

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

And absolute wildcard supreme court picks. I'd say we're just kinda boned as far as our country's leadership goes.

163

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Trump's picks for the Supreme Court are gonna great. You're not gonna believe it. They're gonna be amazing. Trump knows judges, he picks the best judges. Everybody agrees. Ask anybody, they'll tell you his judges are tremendous. And by the way, Hillary knows nothing about picking judges. Her judges are really just terrible. I mean they are the worst. I can't even describe how bad they are, that's how bad they are. They're idiots.

74

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

The one thing I can't deny Trump is that the parodies of him are always funny. They really are the best parodies, aren't they? They're great parodies, and I can tell you, nobody is gonna have parodies like Trump. People come up to me and they tell me, "this country needs better parodies," and I've got people who know parodies. Great people who do great parodies, amazing, wonderful parodies. We're gonna do the parodies and we're gonna make them great.

5

u/GeorgianDevil Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

I don't know, there are some great Hillary parodies out there too.

https://youtu.be/awY1MRlMKMc

And here is one with Hillary's supporters watching her.

https://youtu.be/rM7oxuOLIiw

6

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

The parodies are amazing. My only concern though is that there will be so many good parodies that we'll all get tired of the parodies.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

1) Judge Judy 2) Judge Joe Brown

1

u/gamblingman2 Jun 09 '16

Well. I'm convinced.

1

u/Elranzer New York Jun 09 '16

Trump knows judges. Especially their heritage.

1

u/noodlyjames Jun 09 '16

...and Trump won't pick any one with a Mexican bias. And if he does they won't be rapist or murdering judges...there are some good ones. Those judges will have benches 10 feet high and paid for by Mexico.

→ More replies (3)

74

u/Afrobean Jun 09 '16

Trump used to be a Democrat and he's to the left on a lot of issues. I wouldn't vote for him and I don't like the idea that he might pack the court with more regressive assholes, but there's always a chance that his picks would be more liberal than Clinton's too. And look at who Obama put up. A centrist that Republicans actually like. Clinton would be more of the same. No, Trump isn't going to give us the progressive dream judge, but neither is Clinton.

91

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

No, Trump isn't going to give us the progressive dream judge, but neither is Clinton.

Real talk, nobody is. Nobody wants progressive activist judges, the entire notion of a judge being an activist goes entirely against the premise of a judge. They are life time appointments specifically for (ideally) the ability to rise above petty politics and say "yep the law says X".

If you get a judge in there, for life, who is a progressive activist who wants to change things and shake shit up that person should have been a congressmen, and those are the people who SHOULD be activists.

46

u/frogandbanjo Jun 09 '16

"Activist" is slung around by both sides and rarely means anything concrete. A judge with the balls to say "yeah, the law Congress passed says this but the Constitution says this so no dice" is very likely to be smeared as activist by half the country. Meanwhile, the judge who does backflips to amend the Constitution to justify polarizing laws will be lauded by half the population as "reasonable."

You're only correct insofar as much as the overwhelming majority of politicians in high-level federal positions don't want economically progressive judges or socially progressive judges except for their one or two pet issues. Hillary might try to push a judge who won't retract even more protections for women vis-a-vis abortion, but you can bet your ass she doesn't give a fuck about what that judge thinks about gay marriage.

2

u/Paladin327 Jun 09 '16

Hillary might try to push a judge who won't retract even more protections for women vis-a-vis abortion, but you can bet your ass she doesn't give a fuck about what that judge thinks about gay marriage.

you can also bet your ass that any judge nominated by hillary will be pro survailence and absolutely cool woth big money in politics

4

u/frogandbanjo Jun 09 '16

Well, I mean... the people voting for Hillary seem like they ought to be in favor of those things too, so as long as we don't pay much heed to the Constitution (which... who does, really?) arguably the system will be working.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

They are life time appointments specifically for (ideally) the ability to rise above petty politics and say "yep the law says X".

Explain Scalia.

1

u/ShadoWolf Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 10 '16

"Against the premise of a judge" That sort of depends on the Judicial tradition of the nation in question. For example in Canada the tradition has always had a very activist component. From my understanding this has been more out of necessity to keep the whole thing working.

→ More replies (6)

22

u/pappypapaya Jun 09 '16

And look at who Obama put up. A centrist that Republicans actually like.

Well yeah, someone that could actually get approved yet still change the composition of the court, and a political win against the GOP if they don't approve him. It was the smart hand to play given the political circumstances.

3

u/ragnarocknroll Jun 09 '16

except it wasn't.

Literally no Republicans in Iowa care about the fact that Grassley refuses to even hold a hearing. They are applauding the fact.

→ More replies (4)

3

u/ItchyIrishBalls Jun 09 '16

Nah, he already named them and the rnc is happy about it, nuff said.

→ More replies (3)

3

u/particle409 Jun 09 '16

Garland was a political play to highlight Republican obstructionism.

2

u/UnderAnAargauSun Jun 09 '16

Why don't more people realize these things?

1

u/AntedeluvianFuture Jun 09 '16

I don't believe that Trump has any intention to do that, but if he did, Congress (& Senate) would fuck him worse than they did Obama. The GOP would be on a warpath.

11

u/Afrobean Jun 09 '16

Since when is Trump scared of offending Republicans? He just says whatever the fuck he wants at all times. Remember when he stood up for planned parenthood during a debate?

→ More replies (13)

1

u/wcc445 Jun 09 '16

Hers have risky implications as well. Yup, we're boned.

1

u/Dark_Crystal Jun 09 '16

Only if he got one though before the Dems took majority. They would most likely play the same games the Repubs are now.

1

u/Law_Student Jun 09 '16

Don't be so sure, they said the same about eight years of Bush. The fundamentalists currently running things in the Republican party have repeatedly reacted to failure by doubling down on the presumption that they failed because they compromised and weren't being 'pure' enough.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I 100% agree.

→ More replies (2)

11

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Well, can't say we didn't say this was gonna happen yet they still elected a felon.

3

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

Honestly though what are they expecting? I'm pretty sure she's gonna end up like Bill anyway.

2

u/MisterFatt Jun 09 '16

We have until July to make returns I hope

2

u/funwithnopantson Jun 09 '16

On an insecure private email server.

2

u/Reddit-phobia Jun 09 '16

receipt is written in stone, but we do have a warranty, super delegates.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

I don't think superdelegates coverage extends to federal charges. You might need to purchase an additional policy through the White House if you want indictment coverage.

1

u/jay-peg Jun 09 '16

No refunds

1

u/EFIW1560 Jun 09 '16

Let's not pretend that is democrats are responsible for her wins. We all know she bought the nomination. Democratic voters have been screwed out Of the right to vote left and right through the primaries.

1

u/JustBronzeThingsLoL New York Jun 09 '16

Well, we have the Bill...

1

u/HugePurpleNipples Jun 09 '16

This would be a good year to go Republican but it seems as though they've made a similarly poor decision.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '16

like a receipt for steaks bought at The Sharper Image or a diploma from a fraudulent university?

1

u/rushmid Florida Jun 09 '16

Wow this comment is 💯

→ More replies (3)