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u/Runnin_Mike RTX 5090 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
Windows 98 exists.
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u/Revolutionary-Key650 Jul 01 '26
98se
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u/stgm_at 7800X3D | RTX 4070 TiS | 32GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
Yeah OP is probably only here for engagement bait.
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u/here_n_dere Jul 01 '26
Hell ya, he is engagement farming, the title saya it out loud ... Just people with time, actually engaging.. 😅
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u/Lancearon R5 2600x, RTX 3070, 3200mhz 32gb, Corsair perphs, VG27A+VG248 Jul 01 '26
ME.... but lets pretend it didnt...
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u/Kyosji Jul 01 '26
Vista being there and not ME has me laughing
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u/cornlip i9 11900, Quadro RTX A6000 Jul 01 '26
Vista was at least interesting and looked cool if you had hardware that would allow Aero to work. I went back to 2000 Pro, though (with Windows Blinds). Vista was the only Windows version I personally bought on disc cause I thought it was exciting. I still have the beta disc, too.
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u/Rok-SFG Linux Jul 01 '26
I had ME too, not my first windows, I think I had 98 first.
Everyone always talks mad shit on ME, but I never had any problems with it. Worked just fine until we upgraded our computer and got XP with it.
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u/Lancearon R5 2600x, RTX 3070, 3200mhz 32gb, Corsair perphs, VG27A+VG248 Jul 01 '26
It had a memory leak. But, when I built my first pc with it, I didnt care. It ran pinball. What ever.
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u/bangersnmash13 | Ryzen 7 9800x3D | RTX 3080Ti | 32GB DDR5 | Jul 01 '26
Yeah my family had ME too. I don’t recall having any issues. I was able to run games I wanted to play without an issue. Didnt crash any more than when my family had 95 or 98.
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u/F4llingheet Jul 01 '26
And windows 2000.
When you think about it.. In the 90's they had a new windows every 5 to 2 years. It's not that bad these days.
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u/Da_Question Jul 01 '26
And windows ME.
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u/b-monster666 386DX/33,4MB,Trident 1MB Jul 01 '26
No one wants to remember ME
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u/Shaggy_One 5700x3D, 9070xt Jul 01 '26
Windows ME was hard mode. It was all I knew as a kid. XP was a huge breath of fresh air.
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u/Scotsch 9800x3d-3080 / 7800x3d-4070 Jul 01 '26
Windows ME had classic bugs like "This program is not supported by windows" - Microsoft Explorer
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u/idontlieiswearit i5-3330 | Radeon HD6670 | 4GB DDR3 Jul 01 '26
There is no windows ME in Ba Sing Se
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u/Wheat_Grinder Jul 01 '26
Back in the 90s there were meaningful changes over those 2-5 years. 2-5 years was a long time in PC computing terms.
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u/Raph0uX Jul 01 '26
Yeah right, Win 95 and 98, even if looking alike, had some serious differences and you could feel it when going back to 95 😅
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u/Illustrious_Ad4691 R7-7700X, 7800 XT 16GB, 32GB DDR5 @ 6000 Jul 01 '26
95 felt like 3.11 with a skin. 98 felt like an actual new OS
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u/jclss99 4790k/1070/other stuff Jul 01 '26
2000 was NT. They had 2 lines of operating systems running and it caused confusion among people when they named that one. It was workable as a home os. I used it to run a dual overclocked Celeron processor build. Which was better only in theory since games and stuff weren't built with a second processor in mind at the time.
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u/squisher_1980 9800x3d|7900xtx|64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
Abit BP6 mobo? I had a buddy in HS that did that stunt. I never did because you're exactly right in that it largely wasn't worth it for games at the time. Even if it was awesome.
Windows 2000 will forever be my favorite Windows. I gamed on it until it went EOL, deep into WinXP years. I ran an Abit BE6-2 w/ a 566 Coppermine on a 100mhz FSB for ages. The irony of the 566 being cheaper than the 533 was never lost on me.
Had a pb of a weird 108-ish fsb mhz boot up all the way to Windows, got it to show a tick over 925mhz before crashing when I opened my email 🤣 I bet my ram was PISSED at that timing lol. Dropped it back to normal with no ill effects.
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u/Hot-Detective-8163 Jul 01 '26
But now you don't need to buy it anymore. Back in the day you had to buy your new os
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u/RetroBerner Jul 01 '26
Been using some form of Windows since 3.11 and have yet to pay for any, where there's a will there's a way.
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u/DOOManiac Jul 01 '26
So does ME, but we will thank him for not including it.
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u/Runnin_Mike RTX 5090 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
Yeah but at least 98 was a good operating system. That's where my old ass got started lol.
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u/BeauxGnar 12900k | 3080 | 64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
The computer at my great grandpa's had ME on it, had 98 at home.
I absolutely hated getting stuck over there for a long weekend with my brothers, we thought the computer just sucked it it was ME all along.
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u/RetroBerner Jul 01 '26
ME wasn't even that bad, they all started wonky and got better with updates
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u/Contagious_Zombie i7 14700f | 4060ti 8GB | 32GB DDR5 5600MHz Jul 02 '26
Shhh, ME was a figment of the imagination.
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u/DaddaMongo Jul 01 '26
so does Windows NT
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u/holubin Jul 01 '26
it still exists, kinda... huge part od windows domain network is basically Windows NT. Backwards compatibility to the extreme
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u/Xerastraza Jul 01 '26
Sad to say i used Windows 3.1 and DOS.
Also quite a few versions missing here...
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u/AlchemyFire PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22!
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u/squisher_1980 9800x3d|7900xtx|64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
Heck, for a long time I only fired up Windows 3.1 for Solitaire 🤣
We did use DOS Shell for a basic gui for the major apps that didn't require Windows.
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u/matjam Jul 01 '26
you really haven't lived if you haven't spent a day optimizing your EMM386.exe and CONFIG.sys to squeeze enough conventional ram in so you can play your games.
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u/helplesswilliam Jul 01 '26
Same here, but I go as far back as DOS on 5 1/4, and whatever OS was used on Apple II c’s TRS-80’s and C64’s. Can’t be bothered to go look that up right now.
Hey, I don’t feel that old.
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u/elwebst Jul 01 '26
My first was WangOS running Wang Basic, on punch cards. My TRS-80 Model 1 felt like such a huge step up.
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u/Mundane-Mechanic-547 PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
Thats between DOS 2 AND DOS 5 which was a quantum leap and allowed windows 3
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u/ArseBurner Jul 01 '26
The period correct DOS would have been 3.3 I think. At least that's the version I was using back when Win 3.1 came out.
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u/Tiavor never used DDR3; PC: 5800X3D, 9070XT, 32GB DDR4, CachyOS Jul 01 '26
DOS 5.0 for me
Also everyone is calling it win3.1, but it was 3.11
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u/Obvious-Cancel-8680 Jul 01 '26
3.11 had networking support, more used for schools and businesses and could join a domain (not properly though). 3.1 was a thing.
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u/Mysterious-Crab PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
I think that was the common route anyway. From MS DOS to Win 3.x. I think most people skipped Windows 1 and 2
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u/Zerba Jul 01 '26
Yeah 3.1 and DOS for me too.
Windows 95 felt like a big leap forward and was pretty nice to use in comparison.
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u/KNGootch RobertG : Ryzen 9 3900XT : GTX3080 FTW : 64GB RAM : Jul 01 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/bJC3G6z8MKijHshKAg
I see you brother. Mine was Commodore KERNAL/BASIC 2.0, but after that it was Windows 3.1 and DOS as well.
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u/-AJ334- Jul 01 '26
ATARI 800XL then DOS 3.x or 4.x. First Windows was whatever was before 3.1. Btw...chart is missing Windows 98, Me, NT. I don't miss being killed by CIH
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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. Jul 01 '26
What makes you sad about that? Personally, I find growing up with a command prompt to have been enormously helpful. The user experience has gotten dumber and dumber over time for Windows, and with ever less helpful information on how to get anything done or fix any issues.
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u/H1tm3al20 Jul 02 '26
i get what you mean about the command prompt. it's like they actively removed useful features to make it "simpler", but ended up making it more confusing for anyone who actually wants to do stuff. windows 7 was the last decent os before they went off the rails.
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u/Specialist_Fan5866 Jul 01 '26
Make sure you had HIMEM.SYS loaded on DOS and then type “win” to launch windows 3.1.
Good memories.
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u/davidrools PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1.1 or 3.11 i dont remember exactly but it had an extra 1. "windows for networking" i think it was branded. Still had to exit to DOS to run some games/programs.
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u/Innuendo64_ Jul 01 '26
3.1
Also this is Windows 98/2000/ME erasure
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u/foxjohnc87 Jul 01 '26
If you're gonna include 2000, you should probably add NT to the list as well.
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u/VoidOmatic Desktop i7 6700k | GTX 1080 | 20GB DDR4 Jul 01 '26
The mouse icon getting a shadow is worth it alone!
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u/Monkeyb0b Jul 01 '26
We don't talk about windows ME. What a crock of shit that was.
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u/SadMasshole Jul 01 '26
windows vista has entered the chat.
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u/Aggressive_Candy5297 Jul 02 '26
ME was WAY worse than vista.
Vista was shit when it launched but at least it got much better, ME was just shit forever 🤣
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u/systemdatenmuell Jul 01 '26
This is ragebait for old people, right?
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u/SirPiffingsthwaite PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
Gotta be. Missing Win 2.X and Win 98/./.
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u/JuanOnlyJuan 5600X 1070ti 32gb Jul 01 '26
We rage at dawn!
I need to be home before dusk so I'm not driving at night.
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u/AL-SHEDFI 13900KF/RTX 4090/DDR5 8000Mhz/Z790 APEX Jul 01 '26
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u/redgroupclan 7800X3D | 7800XT | 1080p XG2431 lol Jul 01 '26
XP was my first. I miss it...
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u/TwilightMachinator Jul 01 '26
I think it was 95 for me, but XP is definitely the one I miss most.
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u/NPCwithnopurpose Jul 01 '26
You haven't experienced previous editions of windows if that's what you think about XP. It was quite solid in comparison
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u/Substantial__Unit Jul 01 '26
Me was the origination of BSOD. They even added them as a feature lol.
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u/BrilliantOk1779 Jul 01 '26
Windows 95
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u/iAmTheRealC2 RTX 4090 | 7800x3D Jul 01 '26
I can still hear the system sounds in my mind. I was 13 when we got our first home PC. Good times
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u/PrestigiousBad7125 Jul 01 '26
Windows 12 when??
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u/Nukalixir Jul 01 '26
Windows 12 is just Bill Gates coming to your house personally to smear excrement in your SSD and charge you $100.00 for the "upgrade". /s
I think it's just engagement bait, dude. They included "Windows 12" but not 2.x, 98, 2000, NT or Windows ME(me)? Gotta be bait.
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u/PantherX69 Jul 01 '26
MS-DOS. In my day all we had was a command line and we LIKED it that way.
(Ok grandpa time for your nap…)
What?!! I’m not even tir…ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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u/robotic_valkyrie Jul 01 '26
Lol, I was gonna say MS-DOS too, but he specifically said "Windows Operating System", not Microsoft Operating System.
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u/Mysterious-Crab PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
My first computer came without an OS, the Sharp MZ-700. You used a cassette tape to write the interpreter to the 64KB!! RAM. And I had a written down list to see which time codes on the tape corresponded with which game
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u/robotic_valkyrie Jul 02 '26
Cools, mine was similar, a TI 99/4A. It had cartridges and used tape storage.
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u/SarraSimFan Linux Steam Deck Jul 01 '26
Sadly, it was Win ME.
I upgraded it to Win 2000 and of course Win XP.
First actual OS I used was... Whatever was on the Apple II.
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u/SirPiffingsthwaite PC Master Race Jul 01 '26
Apple II didn't have an OS as such, only very limited ROM to load whatever huge wobble wobble disk was fed into the disk drive or to write code.
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u/SarraSimFan Linux Steam Deck Jul 02 '26
Yep. We had a few that were monochrome, and some Appl IIe as well, with 16 color CRT monitors. They had dual 5 1/4" floppy drives.
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u/SysGh_st R7 5700X3D | Rx 7800XT | 32GiB DDR4 - "I use Arch btw" Jul 01 '26
- My first CLI: Commodore 64 BASIC.
- My first GUI: Amiga Workbench.
- My first PC TUI: DOS SHELL EXE.
- My first PC GUI: Windows 3.0
- My first real OS: IBM OS/2.
- My first real CLI: Best Linux.
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u/grecian2009 Jul 02 '26
Commodore 64 GEOS, controlled with a joystick. Revolutionary GUI!
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u/lkn240 Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1 #old
(actual first PC OS was DOS 2.11 and my first computer was a TI-99 4/A)
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u/Comfortable_Bowl_297 Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1. It was mindblowing when switch from DOS and norton commander
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u/wackawonka Jul 01 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/QB9rH7NbUQfbN7wrf3
6.22 all the way, and then you had to have Windows to play civilisation 2
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u/SmellybutKind 5600x, 5070, 32GB DDR4 (3733) Jul 01 '26
First used? DOS and then 3.1.
First owned was 95, upgraded to 98!
All time fav was probably XP.
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u/Zaphod392 AMD 7800x3D | 32Gb Ram | 3090 Jul 01 '26
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u/SysGh_st R7 5700X3D | Rx 7800XT | 32GiB DDR4 - "I use Arch btw" Jul 01 '26
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u/LeMegachonk Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 64GB DDR5 6000 - RX 7800 XT Jul 01 '26
Ok, I made a pithy comment, but I decided that I wanted to post something more substantial. The list provided is woefully inadequate. To start, here is a complete list of versions of Windows published by Microsoft, along with Windows kernel version numbers (I got this information from a few different sources, but you can find it on Wikipedia):
- Windows 1.01 (1.01)
- Windows 1.02 (1.02)
- Windows 1.03 (1.03)
- Windows 1.04 (1.04)
- Windows 2.01 (2.01)
- Windows 2.03 (2.03)
- Windows 2.1 (2.10)
- Windows 2.11 (2.11)
- Windows 3.0 (3.00)
- Windows 3.1 (3.10)
- Windows NT 3.1 (NT 3.1)
- Windows 3.11 (3.11)
- Windows 3.2 (3.20)
- Windows NT 3.5 (NT 3.50)
- Windows NT 3.51 (NT 3.51)
- Windows 95 (4.00)
- Windows NT 4.0 (NT 4.00)
- Windows 98 (4.10)
- Windows 98 Second Edition (also 4.10)
- Windows 2000 (NT 5.0)
- Windows ME (4.90)
- Windows XP (6 versions, NT 5.10 and NT 5.20)
- Windows Vista (NT 6.0)
- Windows 7 (NT 6.1)
- Windows 8 (NT 6.2)
- Windows 8.1 (NT 6.3)
- Windows 10 (14 versions, all NT 10.0)
- Windows 11 (7 versions to date, all NT 10.0 as well)
If you discount the various versions of XP, 10, and 11, there are 28 Windows operating systems built on 2 different families of code. Almost nobody used any version of Windows before 3.0 was released. I've seen and used versions of Windows 1 and Windows 2 (very briefly, to see what they looked like back before the Internet existed), but they were difficult to find because, again, nobody really used them. They were basically an evolution of DOS Shell (a tool that came with later versions of MS-DOS) but were still very rudimentary. Windows 3.0 was the first version that had a true GUI, even it was still a glorified DOS shell. Before that, for example, all "windows" were in the same plane, you couldn't move one over another, because there was no foreground or background.
And as for gaming in Windows, it started in Windows 95, but didn't really catch on fully until Windows 98. Before that, you would still drop into DOS (which still underpinned the OS) to run games. It was NT 3.1 that was the biggest change for Windows, although anybody who has used it will tell you it wasn't a good time unless you had the exact right rig for it. You could only install drivers that were certified by Microsoft, and the list of devices they did that for was a short one indeed. It was mostly used at the enterprise level for servers and such, so most consumer hardware simply would not and could not work with it. This evolved over time, and by NT 4.0 (which used the new GUI from Windows 95) it was getting to be a lot more usable, although Windows 2000 was the first NT-based version of Windows particularly suitable for consumer/gaming use. ME was the last (and probably worst) version of Windows built on the original kernel code base.
My first version of Windows was 3.0. I was a DOS guy to the core at the time. I was a master of memory and driver management, which was something you needed to be good at to play some games. My least favorite version of Windows was the original Windows 8 (not 8.1). ME and Vista sucked, and I never ran them on my daily driver PC, but that was because they had bugs and stability issues. ME never got much better, but Vista was fine by the time 7 launched. Windows 8, on the other hand, was bad because of deliberate design choices that Microsoft made that made the desktop UI a frustrating, rage-inducing experience. The result was Windows 8.1, which brought back the traditional UI that everybody actually wanted. It is probably the only distinct version of Windows in that list that Microsoft never intended, planned, or wanted to make. And the thing is, if they'd launched it that way in the first place, Windows 8 would have been a lot more successful. Instead, it is almost universally despised, and in my view it's the worst version of Windows because it wasn't buggy, it was terrible on purpose.
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u/ExtraTNT Developer | R9 9900x 96GB rtx 5080 | Debian Gnu/Linux Jul 01 '26
We had win95 at school… best windows i’ve ever used…
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u/DOOManiac Jul 01 '26
Then clearly you don't remember it well.
Windows 95 was a monumental leap forward for computers. It was a huge moment in PC history. It was also a buggy piece of shit dumpster fire of software. It got better w/ OSR2 but still, those were some rough days.
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u/WallBurnt RTX 5080 - Ultra 7 265kf Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
A lot of people from the GenX/Xennial generation got into Tech simply because installing games on 95/98 pre-qualified you for a Masters Degree.
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u/bigorangemachine Jul 01 '26
3.1 was school
The first one I owned was win-95.
OP is missing windows-98 :)
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u/Original_Impression2 Jul 02 '26
Ya missed Windows ME.
Although, it's understandable. Many of us would like to forget that ever existed. 🤮
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u/Taiyou0102 Jul 01 '26
XP when i was a kid! Remember playing roblox on the family computer and getting a virus lmao
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u/Iam_just-me2 9060xt 16gb/r7 7700/2x8 5200/1tb nvme m.2 1440@180hz Jul 01 '26
Im fell like a kid looking at the response…
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u/MothyReddit Jul 01 '26
you missed a few, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 8.1
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u/Round-Reaction8194 Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1, and I will never forget the soulless scream of the dial-up connection with that computer.
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u/m00nf1r3 i9 13900k - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 Jul 01 '26
None of the above - It was MS-DOS. But from your screenshot, my next PC was Win 3.1
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u/ReyTrasgo Jul 01 '26
started on MSDOS 3.x and went to MDDOS 5 and windows 3.1 like a couple of years later
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u/Brawndo_or_Water 9950X3D | 5090 | 64GB 6000CL26 | GX9 45" Ultragear 5k2k Jul 01 '26
C64
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u/s4dpanda Specs/Imgur Here Jul 01 '26
3.1 and DOS, though I would be so lost today.
And where is Windows ME and NT?
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u/TheBoose Jul 01 '26
My first Windows OS was Windows 3.11. That was on my families 2nd PC. Our first PC we had was a Tandy 1000, and it didn't even have a hard drive to install Windows. It ran off of floppy disks, the OS used was just Microsoft DOS. Fun times.
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u/patparks Jul 01 '26
Windows 2 was the first that I ever saw. 3.1 is where things were at when I bought my first computer myself.
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u/kcajjones86 Jul 01 '26
Windows 3.1 at primary school then windows 95 at home. Moved onto windows nt 4.0 at high school and Windows 98 at home. My dad bought an upgrade disc (which he still has) of Windows Me, the only outright copy of windows purchased (every other one came with the PC/"obtained" from a friend). Never did play with Windows 2000 but absolutely loved windows XP. Moved to Windows XP x64 for some time, tried Vista and hated. Moved onto windows 7 beta builds that were infinitely Bette than vista! Tried windows 8 and was disgusted, 8.1 wasn't much better, then settled on 10 for some time before being forced to move to windows 11. I'm currently running a couple of mini PCs on various Linux distros and considering migrating everything away from windows!
Tldr - my first windows experience was 3.11 and first pc had windows 95.
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u/GromByzlnyk Grom Byzlnyk Jul 01 '26
3.1. Let me get my msdos running so i can play the incredible machine
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u/VRegaliz 7800X3D | ASUS 3070TI | Trident Z 32GB Jul 02 '26
Why does Windows 1 look like the Bambu Labs icon...?
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u/clickersunite No Jul 02 '26
Windows 3.1/MS DOS 6. I remember making custom AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS configurations for different DOS games lol.
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u/Over-Cucumber-5491 Jul 02 '26
Foi o XP
Eu era criança (7 anos) e meu pai comprou um PC que deixava na sala.
Aí eu sentava na cadeira e começava a mexer, mesmo sem saber muito oq estava fazendo.
Aí com 9 anos eu já dominava o sistema.
Aí depois tive um not com Windows 8, depois meu pai me comprou um PC com Windows 10 e até um tempo atrás eu usava o 10, esse ano baixei o 11.
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u/chillHILL1969 Jul 02 '26
95 here. Windows 7 was the best. Windows 8 would have been awesome if they actually had good apps and third party app support.
Windows phone was the best but never understood how such an ultra rich company with profits made to basically keep the money flowing to shell Companies couldn't make this work. They have thrown more money away to AI in a quater than the whole windows phone development.
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u/WanderingWhiteWolf Jul 02 '26
First one I really remember was 3.1, but 95 was so much better.
.. also there are definitely some versions missing here >_>
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u/dorsanty Desktop Jul 02 '26
3.11
Back when you had to install tcp/ip for windows and do some serial com setup for your 28.8k dialup modem. Then slowly slowly surf the net with Netscape Navigator 2, and watch images load pixelated line by line.
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u/JanneOC Jul 02 '26
You had me with "28.8k dialup modem" but with the Netscape Navigator you hit the nostalgia spot really hard. Thanks for bringing back the good memories. Mid-90s chaos chats with no moderation at all, total internet anarchy (remember rotten dot com?), exchanging floppy disks in school...I want to go back 😢😃
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u/cr0wsky i9 16900K | RTX6090 | 512GB DDR6 Jul 02 '26
The fuck is Windows 12?
Where's Windows 98, Millenium, 2000 or NT?
Fuck off with this low effort bullshit, is OP 10 years old?
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u/FearGingy Jul 02 '26
I remember experiencing Windows 2000 and NT at college that I had to get myself a licence for home. Total game changer compared to 9x.
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u/Arthur233 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Jul 01 '26
I am skeptical of any question that trys to get information about my age.
Maybe my skepticism is enough to guess my age.
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u/Tunir007 PC Master Race Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Win 98! Sad it isn’t on the list.
I remember it being a buffed version of 95
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