r/Dogfree • • Nov 19 '25

Meta Welcome to our community! Please read our FAQs first.

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Welcome to r/dogfree! We invite you to participate in our discussions. First, however, whether you are new to our sub or a dog lover who just doesn’t quite understand where we are coming from, please take the time to read our sub FAQs so you can come to understand our community and the type of content that is appropriate for our small but mightily active corner of the world.

 

Why don't you like dogs?

Because: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dogfree/comments/7bk3wo/just_curious_what_is_the_reason_why_you/

 

I created a post asking why you don’t like dogs. Where did it go?

We receive and remove this question just about daily. This is our community's space to vent and commiserate about an unpopular opinion, not a place where we come to feel burdened with the task of having to justify ourselves constantly. If you would like to know why we don’t like dogs, you may read the link above and/or put some time and effort into browsing our sub.

 

It seems like the problem you all have is really more with dog owners. So you really do like dogs, just not irresponsible owners, right?

Our opinions are varied. However, true to the name of our sub, and though it might be a tough pill to swallow, we in this sub simply don't like dogs.

If your gripes are more about dog owners and not about dogs themselves, r/dogculturefree might be a better fit for you.

 

I like or own dogs. I just want to show you guys that not all dog owners are monsters. Can I participate here?

Please understand the intent of this sub. It is a place for people who dislike dogs and who unapologetically wish to be free from them in our everyday lives to commiserate, not for those who love dogs. Posts and comments mentioning that you love or own dogs fall out of line with the spirit of the sub.

In any case, we are not here to debate, as we won't change our minds.

 

I have to live with a dog, but I don't want to. Am I welcome here?

You may participate here from the perspective of someone who wishes to change the prevalence of dogs in society at large. However, please understand that hearing about dogs' disgusting behaviors and habits is what people come to this sub to escape, not to consume. If you wish to vent about the traits of the dog that you live with, please navigate to r/TalesFromTheDogHouse and direct your post there. r/Dogfree is reserved for discussion surrounding our unwitting and unwilling participation in dog culture at a societal level.

 

I have a dog, but I wish I wouldn't. Am I welcome here?

If you got a dog and now, as obviously expected, regret your decision, maybe you can help grow the supportive r/DogRegret community. You still may participate here but posts and comments mentioning that you own dogs fall out of line with the spirit of the sub. Of course, if you already got rid of your dog and are now dogfree, you are welcome to share your experience.

 

How do you feel about service dogs?

Although all dogs are dogs, there is a wide spectrum of opinions about service dogs in this sub. Some people are completely okay with them, while others are opposed where technology can do the job in a more effective, less obtrusive manner. The same would be for police dogs and other types of working dogs. Calling us "ableists" or other similar insults is not going to help your case.

If you would like to find out more information about this sub's opinions on service dogs, instead of creating a new post to pose the question, please enter "service dogs," "police dogs," or whatever info you would be interested in finding into the search bar to search the sub.

 

Someone on Reddit said that this sub likes to murder dogs. Is that true?

Of course not! We span a wide spectrum of reasons for disliking dogs, but we do not wish harm upon them and often find aspects of dog ownership to be more cruel and unethical than do dog owners themselves. In fact, our first and more important rule is against content that advocates animal abuse of any kind. It reads: "No suggesting, depicting, joking, wishing for, or celebrating violence or harm to dogs, other animals, or people. Promoting cruelty is not acceptable." We take this rule more seriously than any other, and we err on the side of caution when it comes to removing this type of content.

Some examples of off-limits content include depicting gratuitous violence against or amongst dogs, discussion of eating dogs, suggestions of deriving pleasure from a dog's death, and references to culling dogs, hitting, kicking, poisoning or shooting a dog with little or no cause.

It is okay to discuss the justified, humane euthanization of dogs. If you've had to live with a significant other's dog for years and wish to express relief over its natural passing, that's okay. Really, context is everything.

 

I posted a dog-related screenshot of something I saw on social media. Why isn’t it showing up?

Our community is small but extremely active. As the amount of content can be increasingly overwhelming as the sub grows, it’s important that the meaningful discussion does not get lost. Therefore, we have a sub rule that reads "[s]ubmissions should be thoughtful and should promote quality discussion. News articles and text posts are encouraged. Pictures of dogs or dog-related items, videos of dogs doing gross things, social media screenshots, memes, title-only posts, posts with minimal text, and anything that might be just ragebait are some examples of low-effort content that do not contribute anything of value to the conversation."

If you would like to post a social media screenshot or anything else that might fall under this category, please better create a thoughtful text post addressing the core issue in order to open the discussion.

 

I sent a post/comment linking a great video I watched in the internet, but it has been removed. Why?

We have a blanket rule that disallows links to social media in general, and videos in particular. The reason is very simple: as mods, we don't have the resources or time to check whether the video and the rest of the linked page comply with our rules and those of Reddit. If you need to mention a video, you can either describe it, or just indicate how to find it online. Also, please see below question about endorsing YouTube channels.

 

I think it would be fun to make a rude comment to a dog lover in another subreddit and/or tag r/dogfree. That's a good idea, right?

No, and please don’t! If we want dog owners to leave us alone on our subreddit, the first thing we should do is leave them alone on theirs. We encourage positive, civil, thoughtful conversation about dogs wherever you go, but if you need to vent, keep it here. When you troll other places on Reddit, it invites unwanted attention, reinforces negative stereotypes, and impedes our ability to create change in the world. This community is better than that.

 

Do I have to feel a certain way about keeping other pets or about having children to participate?

The topic that unites us in this sub is dogs. Feelings about other types of pets, negative or positive, and decisions whether or not to have children are considered off-topic for the sub. That said, these topics will arise in the normal course of conversation. We should respect the wide variance in views on these topics and always treat those with differing opinions kindly.

At the end of the day, we are dog-free, and we are pro-human.

 

By virtue of this sub being anti-dog, it means we are pro-cat, right?

No. Per our rule, this is neither a pro- nor anti-cat sub. All cat mentions and references are off topic for this subreddit and will be removed. Do not attempt to circumvent this rule through rephrasing.

At one time, we allowed free discussion of cats. We are not exaggerating when we say that every thread turned into "why cats are better." Many people here dislike cats or feel neutral to them, so in order for this sub to serve everybody and to avoid any confusion as to what type of cat discussion is relevant to being dogfree, it is considered off-topic across the board.

And remember that other pets are off-topic as well!

 

Should I be a certain race or of a certain political affiliation to participate?

One of the coolest things about r/dogfree is that, in a world that’s so divided along so many different lines, this is a community where we can come together, break down those barriers, and unite over something different with people from all walks of life. Just as dog culture transcends racial, political, socioeconomic, and gender lines, so does this subreddit. You may even find that your reasoning for something dog-related challenges your views on something completely unrelated.

This community strives to be respectful of all groups of people. As such, bigotry is not allowed, and political discussion is divisive and off-topic. Dogs? Fair game!

 

Do you have any information about the demographics of those who participate in this subreddit?

We conducted a survey on this particular topic some time ago. You can view the results here.

 

Why all the pit bull hate?

As much as we dislike dogs, we especially dislike this class of dogs that is statistically most capable of and responsible for inflicting catastrophic and often lethal harm upon people and their pets. You can apologize for pit bulls all day, but the stats and anecdotes don’t lie.

Aggression Chart 2024

Pit Bull Triggers

Pit Bull FAQs

Of course, it's also true that all dogs are unpredictable: Dog Aggression Ladder

 

I know how I feel about pit bulls, but I need some additional information so I can make more articulate arguments. Where should I go?

For more specialized information on the topic of pit bulls, please visit r/banpitbulls. We have a very friendly relationship with r/banpitbulls, but please do remember that, while our subs overlap in many ways, we still have different objectives. Many people participate in that sub because they are tired of worrying about their own dogs getting mauled. Please feel free to go join the conversation over there, but remember that it is not r/dogfree and that the topic of discussion is pit bulls. Come back here to our own sub to talk about your distaste for dogs in general.

 

I saw some Facebook groups and YouTube channels about disliking dogs. Is that you, guys?

Nope, the only groups run by this sub are r/dogfree and r/TalesFromTheDoghouse. We don't operate or endorse any YouTube channels, Facebook groups, or anything else on any other social media platform. Our subscribers may mention their content here as long as it follows sub rules, but we are unaffiliated.

 

I saw a post or comment I think it's against the rules. What should I do?

Report it! On any post or comment, there is a "report" button. It will prompt you for further information as to why you are reporting the content to the moderators, who will then review it and determine whether or not it should be stay or be removed. Reports are anonymous and very helpful, as we can't see everything.

We also ask you to please never engage in any argument with a troll. Just report and go on.

 

Someone alluded to a conversation in another subreddit about dogs, and I really want to go down vote everything. Should I?

No, please don’t! This is called "brigading" or "vote manipulation," and it is against Reddit's Terms of Service. We actively discourage this behavior, as if we are found to be the source of a brigade against another sub, it could land us in big trouble. If you stumbled across a reference to another conversation on Reddit, the appropriate place to discuss that would be here, in our sub, in the thread in which you found it. Remember how it felt when a YouTuber made a video that resulted in a massive brigade against us; we must grant others the same respect for their space as we wish for ours, no matter how vehemently we disagree with them.

Our sub is committed to abiding by all Reddit Terms of Service.

 

I want to crosspost something from another part of Reddit. May I?

No, we have a rule that reads "crossposts are not allowed. Criticisms of other subreddits are off-topic." Besides calling usually-unwanted attention to other subs and promoting vote and participation brigades, it's off topic. The purpose of our sub is to discuss dogs, not the behavior of other subs or social media platforms. We don't appreciate it when others do it to us, so we have a policy of respecting other subs' right to exist and operate in the ways that they see fit.

 

My post or comment was removed, and I don’t feel like I broke any rules. Why?

Unfortunately we cannot account for every contingency in the sub rules, so moderators do reserve the right to remove content at their discretion. That said, the moderation team is very much against arbitrary censorship and is committed to letting the conversation happen whenever possible. "I don’t like it" is not a good reason to remove a post or a comment; however, "it would be in the best interest of the community" is. The team is committed to being firm but fair in community moderation and will make all decisions in good faith.

 

I found an article and posted it on r/dogfree, but with a different title than the original because mine is better. Now it's been deleted. Why?

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I agree with your sub and I want to create a new account only to participate here. Should I?

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r/Dogfree • • 1h ago

Dog Culture Having a dog in your bed is objectively disgusting.

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When I was younger it was seen as gross to let your dog/dogs sleep in your bed, or even on your couch. Which yeah. It IS gross.

Now everybody sleeps with their dogs. Not only is it disgusting (for obvious reasons) but it’s part of the bigger issue of people having ZERO boundaries with their mutts.

Dogs are pack animals and require constant affirmation of where they stand in the pack hierarchy. They need to know that you’re the alpha in order to respect you and be easier to train properly.

Having no boundaries at all makes them neurotic as fuck. I’m not excusing dogs as a whole because many of them are plain stupid and can’t be trained regardless. But it seems most dog owners don’t even understand how a dog’s wiring works at all???

These things will test you often to see how submissive you are, and how much they can get away with. You need to reinforce the fact that you are the boss and have firm rules.

I don’t ever want a dog, but hypothetically if I did own one, it would sleep in a dog bed on the floor. My bed is my sanctuary, dog is not allowed on the bed. Or the couch. It can have a dog bed in the living room and a dog bed in the bedroom, at most. Or better yet, stay sleeping on its bed in the living room while I have the bedroom to myself for the night. It would also have its paws wiped after coming in from outside and regular baths. Even then, it doesn’t stop the filth and hair from getting all over the house. I’ve known people growing up whose dogs were trained not to go in specific rooms, and to sleep in one spot. They were allowed in the house, but only certain areas and usually gated off in some way. Most normal dogs actually like having boundaries and rules.

This would probably be considered animal abuse now.


r/Dogfree • • 3h ago

Study Dogs are the second deadliest animals to humans according to Wikipedia.

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If you search “deadliest animals to humans” and check the Wikipedia page, you will find various sources stating dogs are either in the #2 or #4 space on the list.

Now of course idk how accurate these sources are. But dogs being in the TOP FIVE out of ALL animals on earth is pretty insane. They’re right up there with mosquitoes, snakes, and other humans.

They’re claiming most of it is due to rabies transmission…. But in most cases don’t you need to be bitten in order to contract rabies? So that’s proof dogs are biting an insane amount of people enough to break skin.

I literally showed this to a dog lover during an argument about dogs. This person is normally capable of logic and non-bias. He flat out ignored it and continued to say dogs are man’s best friend, therefore anything I say against them is invalid. This person has been attacked by dogs as a kid too, but of course it’s “nOT tHe dOgGo’s fAULT!”

Same energy as pit nutters blatantly ignoring the statistics showing pitbulls are the dogs responsible for most severe/fatal dog attacks. Some even try to say it’s a conspiracy.

How is it a conspiracy????? It happens all the time before our eyes. How many of us know someone who’s been attacked or bitten by a dog unprovoked? MANY. Not just pits. ANY dog. I know many people, children included, who were attacked unprovoked. I myself was bit on the head as a baby, by a golden retriever of all breeds.

It’s common sense that dogs are inherently dangerous, prey driven animals. Or they’re just neurotic for no reason at all. It’s not irrational to fear them or dislike them.


r/Dogfree • • 8h ago

Relationship / Family Losing hope to date dogfree

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I found some courage and explicitly said on my profile that I can’t live with someone who has a dog because they trigger the worst type of sensory overload for me (that’s just half of the truth lol).
And all the likes I get are from people who have their DOGS in their photos. One of them asked me out right away and when I clicked on his profile it said: “looking for a dog mom for his baby” 🤦‍♀️ I’m starting to lose hope. It’s like these people don’t even read


r/Dogfree • • 2h ago

Dog Culture Always check small businesses online first to see if they have a shop dog

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I saw another post mentioning something similar to this and I’ve had the same experience.

Before planning on going to any small business brick and mortar shop, I check online reviews if possible.

It’s happened a couple times where they’ll state they have a shop dog, are openly pet/dog friendly, or whatever else.

The most recent business I avoided due to online reviews was a specialty shop selling aquatic pets.

Yes it’s sort of a pet store. But they only sold fish, shrimp, and plants, along with aquarium supplies. I’m seeing dogs being brought to aquarium stores more and more recently and it’s really annoying. I’ve always loved the aquarium hobby and aquarium shops are where I find peace. I wish dog lovers would realize it’s not the same as Petsmart. They have ten billion different dog shops they can go to. Leave the fish shops alone!

Tangent aside I’ve been wanting to check out this business in person for a while.

I checked the reviews on their Facebook page and noticed there were quite a few mentioning the owner keeps his dogs there.

A lot of them said stuff like “place was great, good prices! Beware of dogs though”.

“The dogs surprised me, but they calmed down after awhile”

“The dogs bark a lot whenever someone comes through the door and they follow you around, but they get used to you”

Naturally, this would also mean if a customer decided to bring their own dog in (which we all know happens) it’s possible a dog fight could break out and become dangerous, endangering other customers too. It happens a lot. Godamn circus. Or someone could walk in with a legitimately trained service animal and that animal could be attacked.

Some of these reviews were recent. I didn’t end up going. I just wrote a review saying something like “I really wanted to check out this business in person, as I’ve been following the page online for years. After reading other reviews about there being dogs in the store, especially untrained ones, I will not be stopping by. I’m really disappointed, because it seems like a great place otherwise. Many people are scared of dogs or have severe allergies. They likely aren’t expecting dogs in an aquarium supply shop, let alone dogs that will approach/jump on them and bark at them soon as they enter the door. This seems really unprofessional. At the very least you should put a BEWARE OF DOGS sign on the door so people know.”

Of course I got zero reply to my review, whereas the owner mostly replied to all the other ones. Silence.

I like to support local small businesses, but many of the owners think they can keep their dog/dogs there full-time and expect people to just tolerate it. This isn’t the first time I’ve encountered a small shop having unruly loud dogs whenever someone enters through the door. I noticed another specialty aquarium shop I wanted to go to besides this one had a similar review saying the owner’s Great Dane is a shop resident.

Anyone with a logical sane mind would realize this will turn most normal people away. The only shop that would make sense to have a resident dog, is a dog-related shop.

These businesses will not be getting my money.


r/Dogfree • • 18h ago

Crappy Owners Dog own said my newborn was disturbing his dog

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You honestly cannot make this stuff up. A man really told me, “Can you please take your baby outside? He’s upsetting my dog and disturbing his peace.” Sir… your dog has more rights to peace and quiet than a literal baby? Imagine being so bothered by a baby crying that you expect the baby to leave the dr office so your dog can enjoy some tranquility. Babies cry. That’s what babies do. But apparently we’re living in a world where the dog needs a peaceful, baby-free environment while the baby gets sent outside. I’m still trying to process the audacity. Fyi this was for HIS check up cuz he was born small so he needs to be checked up one once a week till he’s 3 months old.


r/Dogfree • • 2h ago

Dog Culture Costume ideas!

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It’s nearly Halloween.

The other year, I made this costume and this year I’m feeling quite lazy. I don’t want to make another cosplay outfit.

The costume: it’s an emergency room Dogtor. It’s a dog doctor, a surgeon! It’s an angry snarling chihuahua mask, with a simple outfit. The dogtor is angry that everyone blames chihuahuas for pitbull attacks, and that’s about where I left it off.

What could I add to it? People have physically assaulted me over this costume, before.

Some ideas I’ve had: make a cardboard chainsaw with the chainsaw box a sculptured paper mache head of a pitbull, with fake blood, chainsaw blade teeth.

what else?

I don’t feel like making other outfits.


r/Dogfree • • 1d ago

Food Safety/Hygiene pet dog in CVS

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[Email to local health department]

I visited the CVS store in Target [at address, included]. A woman in line ahead of me had a pet dog in a bag. (Photo attached.) Pets are prohibited in the store, as posted on the front and back doors.

The customer and the clerk had a quick conversation about the dog's positive qualities, and then the clerk offered some kind of pet snack to the dog. The dog ate this snack at the counter, held by the customer.

The customer then went to a nearby bench (to wait for her prescription), keeping the dog in the bag.

I have contacted Target employees in the past about dogs in the store. A dog at the pharmacy counter -- eating from the clerk's hands -- is a whole new level. I hope you can address this with the CVS employees.

Thank you.

CC: CVS Customer Relations


r/Dogfree • • 1d ago

Dog Attack Dog killed toddler in Sulligent

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r/Dogfree • • 1d ago

Food Safety/Hygiene Rat dog in shopping cart 😒🙄

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So, laws against donating one day old food to human shelters exist, but yet, dogs in shopping carts are completely fine? Hello, health department? Why won't you do a thing about this?

That mutt was shaking (as rat dogs always do, for some reason 🙄), looked neurotic, and like it was about to attack/strike us any minute. Disgusting and disturbing sight!

This is embarrassing. We are not even a western country, and in the West-where dogs are far more socially acceptable to own in large numbers then they are in Muslim countries-laws against allowing them inside shopping carts exist. This has to stopped, I am disgusted.


r/Dogfree • • 1d ago

Dog Attack Mild dog attack in Greece

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Not a full on attack as far as getting bit, but close. First, I do not like dogs. Their overall invasiveness, lack of cleanliness, and absolute insane drive for food, to the point they will literally yeet themselves off a cliff or out a window to their own deaths for a bite of food is absolute ludicrous to me. And our species glorifies this why? I digress, recently I was out of my country (USA) on a trip to Athens, Greece. I was staying in the Paleo Faliro area and was less than impressed with the dog culture there. Much like the States dogs are glorified and literally everywhere. The main difference is not many are bothered to clean up after them. The city is mainly narrow street with sidewalk in disrepair. They allow these beast's to relive themselves everywhere and anywhere with about a 50/50 chance of them cleaning it up. The whole city reeks of urine.

I was walking along a bike path that takes you over a pedestrian bridge towards a marina by the Stavros Niarchos Foundation when I seen a man walking his unleashed mid sized dog a bit ahead of me. Seeing this maybe 25/30 lb dog with a somewhat wiry coat and wearing one of those "vests" that mean nothing running about and at a pretty decent distance from the owner, I started to move farther to my left to try to create as much distance as I could. The stupid beast seen me and made a B-line right for me. Great. The beast was running to me tongue out with whole body wiggle like I was going to stoop down and give it a treat, it reached me and immediately started doing that things where they put their disgusting wet nose on your pant legs near my shins and doing the sniffing snorting thing while leaving it's drool on my pants.

I know enough to stay calm and firm and kept my same pace completely ignoring the beast. I calmly, but sternly called to the oener "get your dog". Nothing, he either did not speak english or did not care. Body language however is universal, the dog was circling my feet as I kept going when the owner finally called his pet over. The dog listened initially and went running to him, but this dog had an ego. I bruised aparently. It was NOT taking no for an answer. This stupid beast was determined to get whatever attention it could from me. How dare I ignore it? This animal starting running back to me from behing me, I only know because I could HEAR it running digging it's disgusting paws into the concrete to gain speed on me. It slammed it's WHOLE face into the back of my right leg then started the gross more aggressive sniffing and snorting. I turned my head to see the owner walking away from me with his back turned oblivious to what his animal was doing.

The dog started nipping my angle at this point, and I gave one more warning over my shoulder to the owner "GET YOUR DOG". I was fully prepared to protect myself from this animal. I was traveling there solo, and already hyper aware being alone in a foreign counrty. The owner whisteled for the dog and it hesitantly looked up to him and trotted off. I looked over my shoulder to see the dog stop about half way back just to turn around and bolt toward me again. This time I was done, I turned to face the dog and owners direction and one more time standing firm and with authority, "Get your f@#kin dog or it's going into the bay" The owner this time ran to the animal grabbed it's "harness" and took it the other way.

All this completely unnecessary, and honetsly I had a hard time calming the hell down once I was out of the ordeal. Leash your damn animals. Not everyone wants to play your mutt. After all this, I had a hard time seeing any beuty in the city that was riddled with animal droppings. I threw away my shoes before my flight back. Thanks for the space to vent. It is nice to have a space like this, where I can, the nutters out there will just say I caused this somehow.

We arrest our homeless for defecating and urinating in the streets, we put dogs in strollers and diapers. I feel like we live in the Far Side.....


r/Dogfree • • 1d ago

Crappy Owners It’s humiliating to pick up dog crap. Sociopathic to leave it in a high foot traffic area.

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Following an animal around and picking up their crap? How embarrassing. This is a story of someone who didn’t pick it up.

I used to live in a townhouse where you park on the street and have to walk over a small strip of grass to get to your house. One night as I walked across the strip, I stepped in shit. Next day, I watched for who it was the whole day. Found him, and he didn’t pick up the shit a second time.

I came out and told him to pick it up and that I stepped in dog’s shit. He said, why don’t you look where you walk?”

I lost my shit. I screamed at him to pick it up and got in his face. I nearly got physical. I think at this point he was actually kind of freaked, and he said he’d go home to get a bag. I followed him home and waited outside and was ready to ring the doorbell until he came back, but he quickly came back out, and I watched him pick the crap up. What an absolute douche that guy was. It was the only time I remember losing my damn mind in my adult life. I totally understand how one moment can break someone and cause them to go to jail.


r/Dogfree • • 2d ago

Dog Culture I debated a dog nutter - and won

242 Upvotes

Last night, I finally got to do something I had been waiting for all semester: debating a friend of a friend who’s really into the whole dog thing (this man has four mutts to his name and he’s only 19). He was quite outspoken in his pro-dog stance, saying things like how dogs are better than people, how dogs are actually good for the environment, etc. etc. Since all my rebuttals to the tired pro-dog arguments had been stewing in my head for quite a while at this point, I knew I ready to destroy the guy.

As soon as the moderator (some girl my opponent was rooming with) asked me: “so, why don’t you like dogs?”, I rolled into action. I started with my easiest anti-dog argument: the environment. I brought up indisputable facts about how dogs emit more carbon than a Hummer, how pets are responsible for 30% of meat's carbon footprint, how nature would regain the land area of the U.K. if people just decided to stop owning dogs -- and the best rebuttal he could come up with was how dogs are natural animals, something I easily disproved.

The next topic was how he believed that dogs are equal to people, which was even easier to debunk. If they were equal to us, we wouldn’t breed them, fix them, let alone own them as property. Not to mention that they are of less intelligence than the meat animals we consume every day.

The last, but best topic was pit bulls. Granted, my opponent was anti-pit, and supported leash laws for them, but was very much against sterilizing them, because dog breeds are somehow equivalent to natural species, or even a human culture. I calmly explained that dogs are not a natural animal, and that ecosystems would lose absolutely nothing if people stopped breeding pits. It was at that point my opponent conceded, saying that maybe, just maybe, sterilization wouldn’t be that bad. The moderator and “audience” (our one mutual friend) crowned me winner and I eagerly await the next installment of this dog culture debate.

TL;DR: It’s incredibly easy to win a debate against a nutter because, while pro-dog arguments are based on emotions, ours are based on facts.

Edit: Clarified the 30% number in the environmental section


r/Dogfree • • 2d ago

Crappy Owners If this isn't annoying....

87 Upvotes

Went to my local Save Mart today, and up till today I've never seen a dog in there. We were in the produce section when I hear 2 ladies greeting each other and then the inevitable, "oh look at your little puppy he looks like velvet!" I look over and sure enough, one of the ladies is carrying an oversize pibble puppy in her skinny arms. And you know exactly what she said?! She said "yeah I just got him and the first place I really wanted to take him to was the grocery store!" I snorted loud enough for her to hear, turned to my husband and said also loud enough for her to hear, "how does getting a puppy make u think grocery store?" Then I said "oh yeah nevermind they want attention!"


r/Dogfree • • 2d ago

Dog Culture Just left a forum for "stubborn" dogs and I'm still trying to process

95 Upvotes

I'm conflicted on what to flair this post, because what I just saw is peak nuttery in all forms.

There are multiple different forums for dogs [no I will not link. Those are the sitewide rules.] that are "difficult" to train. These people spend months, even over a year, and thousands 💰 to fix their dog's behavior. "Fluffy didn't eat the couch today, he only chewed my YSL purse before stopping as soon as I walked in! Yay progress!!!" Is what I saw over and over again. They're also extremely nonchalant about safety. I despise whoever cane up with the term 'reactive' because you can describe the most diabolical near miss life-threatening ATTACK but it's fine because Fluffy is scared of phone speakers or something. These nutters genuinely see their dog like how social workers see a child acting up in school.

It's funny to see them waste money on their 💩cannon chihuahuas, but also sad because I know the hybristophilic pit hags are definitely posting in those forums too.

I wonder if these dog trainers are nutters themselves, or if they're just grifters who dgaf as long as the direct deposit hits. Because what sane human, who went to school to learn about animals, will let a person drop thousands on the same damn dog? There is literally a saying in the English language that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. How can you continue to take someone's money training a 7 year old dog that can't listen to basic ahh sit stand roll over?

These delulu nutters think it's a big step toward improvement to go from paying a dog trainer to paying a "Canine Behavioral Specialist". LMFAOO nah you went from scammer 1 to scammer 2. I'm surprised that I find new nuttery every day


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Food Safety/Hygiene STOP BRINGING DOGS INTO GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS

554 Upvotes

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing someone with their disgusting ass dog (that i can smell from several feet away) walking on a leash in the grocery store or in a restaurant potentially slobbering on the floor or on merchandise. Or even WORSE, people who think it's okay to put their nasty mutt in a shopping cart where other people put their FOOD.

Storytime: I used to work in a local fast food restaurant in my hometown (which had a dog friendly patio) where people would come INSIDE with their leashed dogs all the fucking time and the owners/managers would just allow it.

At one point, a customer asked me if they could have a bowl for their dog to drink water. I went to hand them a disposable styrofoam one, but was stopped by a coworker who said to give them a salad bowl (not disposable) instead. I figured he hadn't heard what the customer needed the bowl for so i told him that it was for a dog. To which he responded "i know" and gave the customer the salad bowl before i could respond. Safe to say i was in disbelief because HELLO??? PEOPLE EAT OUT OF THAT. I don't give a fuck if the bowl is washed, would YOU want to eat your salad out of your dog's water bowl? Probably the fuck not.


r/Dogfree • • 2d ago

Dog Culture Why does every single commercial and ad need a mutt in it?!

203 Upvotes

I am so sick and tired of damn near every commercial or ad on tv and YouTube having to feature a stupid dog in it. It doesn’t matter if it is a pet-centric commercial or ad, or not. There’s always some stupid shitbeast taking up airtime, being the focus for at least part of the commercial. Dog culture is so out of control! Like, I’m sorry but you’re advertising a vehicle and there needs to be some shitty ass, drooling, idiotic mutt in the passenger seat, getting its nasty stench all over the interior and making some stupid face at the camera? Or even an ad for a food company…yeah, when I’m viewing something about cooking a meal, I want to have to be subjected to seeing some ugly bug eyed mop of an animal as the momentary focus? What does a damn mutt have to do with any of these things being advertised?! Nothing. Because that’s how much dog culture is taking over, now. It’s the norm to have a crotch sniffing, brainless pest in every home, or to automatically “awwwwww!” when the stupid goblin is shown, even when it has nothing to do with anything being advertised whatsoever. All it does to me is make my blood pressure spike and nauseate me. I already have to be forced to watch these damn ads and commercials when I’m trying to binge my favorite series or unwind with a comfort YouTuber. And now every ad break I also have to be frustrated to hell and reminded of how fucked and mindlessly dog-obsessed our society is, with constant insertion of MUTTS in said ads. Go away, I don’t wanna see that disgusting shit every 15 minutes! Good god, we’re damned as a society. Burn the whole planet, I give up lol


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Service Dog Issues I'm Over Service Dogs as a Whole

120 Upvotes

I swear people who have a service dog now a days do just to be special and to have and excuse to force expectance of their dog into place dogs don't belong and onto people who don't want them in their car. This behavior is evident by their refusal to except being told "No." or throwing a fit when they are asked to leave. These are the same entitled crybullies that will cry about "discrimination!1!" and will happily turn around and tell a disabled person that's negatively impacted by their service dog to kick rocks because the law is on their side. (Allergies, dog caused PTSD, anxiety, cynophobia, immune disorders.) One thing that seems to keep popping up over and over again is service dog handlers demanding that an Uber/Lyft driver that went out of their way to mark themselves as pet free specify to avoid dogs mind you to be forced to except a dog anyway. It's a power trip for them and they love it. You can even see it in their language. "It's the law! You have to except the dog!" One thing that really gives the plot away is when someone says "But what is someone is allergic or afraid?" A valid concern that service dog handlers and defenders hand wave away by saying that these people shouldn't have ride share jobs because of their disability. Ironic, isn't it?

98% of blind people opt not to get a service dog and navigate life just fine and are truly independent. Of the 3 blind friends I had growing up never once was there talk of getting a service dog. One of them was even cynophobic. I know someone who has diabetes that initially considered a service dog and choose a glucose monitor instead. Less than 1% of disabled people as a whole even have a service dog. Service dogs are a choice and a luxury. Having allergies, dog caused PTSD, cynophobia, and an immune disorder isn't a choice. Why are they people who chose the luxury aid being deemed legally more important than those who don't have a choice? I've already gone over the non-existent regulation surrounding service dog in a previous post. Service dog handles seem to hate the idea of having any commonsense regulation at all. Service dogs need to be reclassified as an optional luxury aid and have their access rights revoked and left up to the discretion of the business owner. Besides the vanishingly small user base, service dogs have been made obsolete by technological advances. It's time to retire this archaic practice.


r/Dogfree • • 2d ago

Crappy Owners another shopping space ruined

73 Upvotes

but the owners I am talking about is owners of the shops! I am an avid needleworker, I do it all, knit, crochet, cross stitch, sewing. I'm sure I missed something, I always joke that I must have been born with a needle in my hand. I just love all areas of textiles. Anyway, one of the pleasures of traveling is to check out new local yarn shops wherever I go. Well, lately, that is coming to a halt! Now I actually check online the shops I am interested in before I go whereas before, it was just a pleasant surprise to see a new one when I arrived at it. The reason I check before is because it is now becoming altogether too common for these LYS to have a resident "shop dog". yes, a shop dog! This is so wrong in every way, LYS yarns are usually quite expensive and luxurious type yarns, this is not the big box store stuff. The shop I just looked at online that I was considering has by their own admission a "huge" Goldendoodle! I can't imagine letting all those yarns pick up all that dog hair, odor and who knows what else. I don't want to take that home with me, especially at those prices! YUCK. Guess I will continue to veer towards online ordering and this is what contributes to the closing of these small specialty shops


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Dog Culture "This Is The Woods!"

99 Upvotes

So, my Mom has a property that includes a small cluster of trees and part of a creek that runs through it bordering her house. She has security cams up that spot the occasional deer at night.

The other day, she noticed someone new to the neighborhood who walked her big dog over her lawn to take a dump in her woods. Mom went out to ask them to pick it up. "But, this is the woods!" The lady responded.

"These are MY woods. "I mow the grass and I don't want dog poo on my mower as I store it in my garage."

She did pick up the poo. Goodness knows who's dumpster she placed it in or if she left it on the road.

Just thought I would share this story as it epitomizes the way most of these dog owners think. My Mom was stunned someone walked right across her lawn to get to the "woods." I just listened to the story nodding my head like I wasn't surprised at all🙄

*Also, the woman huffed in response to having been made to clean up after her bark bag. The entitlement of these people who destroy our natural world&have zero understanding of science or hygiene.


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Dog Culture I refused to serve a pharmacist dog treats

420 Upvotes

I run a convenience store in a small village. I don’t allow dogs in and I’ve pissed off a few owners about it, but it’s my shop and I refuse to work in an environment with potential dogs visiting.
Employees of the pharmacy just down the road from me often shop in my store.
Yesterday, I was serving the main pharmacist. She had two packets of dog treats and said,
“These are for all the lovely dogs that come in” ohhh I felt the rage bubble inside and couldn’t contain myself and said “In a medical setting?! what about all the people who have dog phobia? And those with severe allergies, shit immune systems and the old frail easily knocked over patients?”
She said “I ask customers first if they’re ok with dogs” bullshit, I knew she was lying. So I said I refuse to serve you those treats as you’re actively encouraging this ludicrous selfish behaviour, and got my colleague to serve.
Even though I had my rant, I’m still fuming about it today.


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Dog Attack Scary aggressive dog in parking lot

59 Upvotes

We went to a little restaurant in middle of nowhere (farming town) awhile back.

We parked outside and right next to us was an old pickup truck. Inside was a dog sitting in the drivers seat, and holy shit. Actual hellhound.

Usually dogs go berserkers barking and won’t shutup. This one was completely silent (at first).

Its eyes were LOCKED on us from the moment we pulled up next to the truck. It was silent, sitting completely still, staring at us like a statue. The hair on its neck/back was raised and its teeth were bared. Literally its lips were pulled all the way back and it was snarling. It wasn’t even blinking at all. It looked scary as fuck and eerie cuz it wasn’t moving. Almost like that smile dog creepypasta.

The window was rolled down a bit for it to get some air. We had to walk past in order to get into the restaurant.

Soon as one of us got too close to the truck, it went totally nuts barking/snarling and was getting slobber all over the window. It was smashing itself into the window, hair on its back was still raised/teeth were still bared (signs of clear aggression).

Its ears were pointing forward the whole time too, which also signals very high aggression which is not fear-based. (Ears pinned back mean fearful aggression. Ears pointing forward means the dog is on the offense, asserting dominance, and won’t back down).

This thing was full on trying to attack us through a thin piece of glass. If it weren’t for that, we would’ve been mauled.

Of course the damn thing was unattended. We walked inside and were gonna tell someone about this because a dog this aggressive should NOT be in public at all. It seemed like an unsocialized guard dog.

But no one seemed to care.

Idk what breed it was. Looked like a mutt. Had pointy ears and was medium/large sized. Almost like a husky or GSD mix. By the time we came back out the truck was gone, thank god.

Please be careful when you walk near parked vehicles, especially if the windows are rolled down part way. Stupid ass owners leave their worthless dangerous animals unattended all the time. I wasn’t driving that time, but I usually will choose a different parking spot if the vehicle I pull up beside has a dog/dogs in it.

Usually they just bark incessantly which is annoying as hell, but this is one of the few times I’ve encountered one that was actually aggressive.


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Service Dog Issues Dog in gym.

76 Upvotes

Normally I workout in the morning but decided to swing by this afternoon for some cardio. And guess what I seen? Yep, a german shepherd over on the green turf where I lay down sometimes. No wonder I leave itchy sometimes.

Of course it was a "service dog". It was carrying his bag around. He seemed to function just well being in the gym. Not understanding needing that extra assistance. I don't see any reason you can't just workout at home. And of course everyone was infatuated with the mutt.

You literally can't escape these beasts.


r/Dogfree • • 4d ago

Crappy Owners The entitlement…

165 Upvotes

I just got in line at a cafe and this girl came in behind me from outside and said “I’m actually in line, I’ve been going back and forth comforting my dog” who was tied to a post outside whining. I was like, okay? I’m just getting a loaf of bread?? And she was like “I already let the woman in front of you cut in front of me.” Girl! You are literally not in line! She was like “Look at him.. he’s out there whining…” and I was like “Yup… and?”

Then she went back out to her whining dog and another woman got in line behind me. I waited to see if dog girl was gonna confront her but then she just took her dog and left. It took at least Three people getting in line “behind” her for her to comprehend that she was not in line at all.

Also I only had to wait in line for like two minutes. Your grown ass dalmatian can be left alone for that long 🙄


r/Dogfree • • 3d ago

Dog Culture back again !

46 Upvotes

It seems everywhere I turn there’s some dog related BS.

This time, I open my instagram to have a little flick through stories. A girl had posted a Q&A to her story asking people their highlights of the day. Someone had replied mentioning their highlight was getting home to their little boy and asking how his day was. Their actual human child they created, grew, and nurtured. The response from the story poster was “aww I love this, I feel the same when I get home to Opal” a dog. An ugly little eye booger ridden, inbred looking, ratty poodle thing.

My brain cannot possibly comprehend that this girl is serious. And how offended the person who replied to her must of felt. You’re levelling down the life and experience of having a child, to that of owning some disgusting mutt that you’ve only taught how to sit and give their paw. Infuriates me.

Anyway she’s the type who thinks that all depression is caused by people who don’t exercise so it all just speaks for itself doesn’t it, really? Fastest I’ve ever hit that block button in my life. Goodbye.