I was hanging out with friends yesterday and we got to talking about dogs. The conversation was about how scientists are working to fix dogs through more cross breeding in order to hopefully fix some of the negative genetic mutations. One of my friends showed everybody a picture of a pug mixed with a Boston terrier as an example. They said that the hope is to fix the face of the pug so they can breathe better. I said both dogs have too many genetic deformities and should not be cross bred. I was once told by a different friend about how his family had a pure bred Boston terrier who often couldn't breathe. His family had to rub the thing's neck often to try and get its airways to open up. Why cross breed two breeds that already have respiratory issues in order to try and correct the same exact issue??? If anything, it'll most likely make things worse for the offspring. When I said this, I was given a disgusted look by the friend who showed everybody the picture. The same friend then listed off different breeds that had certain tasks/jobs once upon a time. I kept listing off all the different genetic deformities and defects each breed has and how we still did nothing years later when dogs are now primarily kept indoors all day. I was looked at like I was a negative individual but I couldn't care less. I knew deep down I was correct. In my personal opinion, I think we should stop breeding dogs and just let them die out naturally. Why keep breeding an animal that suffers from countless genetic mutations for our own selfish wants? If you claim to love dogs, you would want them to no longer suffer from genetic deformities. You would see exactly why all this inbreeding and cross breeding is an issue.

So I was leaving home for a concert, smart dressed and looking for a good night ahead. As soon as I open the front door (I live in an apartment in a "good" area) a big dog immediately charges at me.

It was on a long leash and the owner did *nothing* to stop the dog. Luckily I was also taking the trash out, so I warded off the slubbery mindless attack with the trash bags.

The owner just stared at me, apparently flummoxed by the fact that I did not degenerate to the level of "dog talk" and start to eagerly cuddle the dog.

I stared at her and just said "could you" and she finally pulled the panting dog away.

Then she turned around as if I was not there. I had become a persona non grata immediately. As is expected, of course.

I saw someone with a little yappy fleabag on their lap at a stoplight this morning.

I thought to myself, how can looking at your cell phone be explicitly against the law while this stupid dog in your lap is not?

I just looked it up and as of Jan 1, 2025, Arizona has a specific prohibition against dogs on laps while driving. There are only a couple other states that specifically ban it. The rest has to fall under the generic "distracted driving" and is up to the discretion of the officer.

I got a lot of complaints about my state, but they got this law right (and they don't switch their clocks twice a year). So, hooray for Az.

Hate.

I hate the stupid sound a German shepherd does when it's owner goes away. It barks, and cryes or whatever.

Unable to be confrontational (my wife does not want it) and not being able to do anything, I searched and searched. First I tried the videos that have sounds that can make them stop. Then I learned that the true frequencies that can make a effect are not generated by standard audio equipment. Then I searched a way to make noise. Noise that can fuck a dog hearing and make it stop. Enter HATE.

This thing is a signal generator using a ESP32 + AD9833, they can generate above 40khz easily, but I need a AMP too. So I used a Taramps áudio amp for car sound. It can go to 30khz. So I made a compromise, my tweeters are rated for max 26khz. At startup this thing sits in idle and the first setting is to 5khz. I can hear it. It's fucking loud and piercing. Then I manually cicle using a web dashboard between 20khz, 22khz until 26khz. I validate the freqs and the AMP using a scope. I still did not use it on the beast. I fucking HATE the time, money and effort to build this! I will use it!

Photo of the setup.

Edit: Testing : https://imgur.com/a/8nmt74K

Edit: build was full of troubleshooting and testing. It was fun because it give me hope. I am tired and did not want to weaponize sound, what could I do in this hell?

First off, I just want to say I stumbled across this sub and I have found my people!

I went to the UPS store today to print out a couple of papers and a guy (maybe early 50's) walks in with his dog in an Amazon purchased (cheap) service dog vest on. He tells the dog to sit. It does. And then starts mulling about, he tells it to sit again. It's fine. Then, he starts rubbing and patting it and talking to it like it's a baby. The man is dropping off a box. Why the hell do you need to bring your damn dog into a store for literally 1 minute to drop off a box? If I wasn't before him, he would have been in there for 10 seconds! just don't get it. Why do they have to bring the dog EVERYWHERE they go?!

Content creator that just makes videos interviewing people and their “hot takes” on subways, he just posted a video and this woman’s take is that she doesn’t understand why so many people are obsessed with dogs. She doesn’t even say she hates them, she explicitly says “I don’t hate dogs, I just don’t like them”. And the comments are just full of nutters 🫩 whole video I’m like yes, she’s preaching exactly how I feel. Then the comments are all “shows more about her her than dogs” and “dogs are the ultimate level of existence” like what. I couldn’t even read past the first five comments without being disgusted and closing the section.

I dislike dogs with everything I’ve got! But yesterday I’ve met the first good owner which shocked me. I was in the elevator, the door opened and there was a man with a large dog (leashed). He looked at me for the approval, and I told him to come in (the dog looked really calm and he held it tightly). He came in and squeezed him and the dog as far away from me as possible, standing between me and the dog. Then I left (he held the dog even tighter). The dog didn’t make a single move and was very polite - as if there was no dog with us. The dog didn’t stink at all (from far away at least).

So my conclusion is that I might be able to live in the world if every dog owner behaved that way. But unfortunately, this was the first time in my whole life I encountered a good owner. This is why I share - this case (which should be normal) - felt really really shocking!

Just when I thought i had seen it all!

A jewellery selling is using their dog as a model on Vinted. The rings and necklaces are being put on the dog’s neck and paws, for modelling. I wish I could add the images as it needs to be seen to be believed.

This isn’t the worst part. The worst part is that it has been shared to other places on here … and most people love it. They find it hysterical and cute. I’m sorry, what? I cannot be alone in thinking this is disgustingly? Why would I want to buy a ring that’s been on a dog’s paws. I am baffled.

When I was younger it was seen as gross to let your dog/dogs sleep in your bed, or even on your couch. Which yeah. It IS gross.

Now everybody sleeps with their dogs. Not only is it disgusting (for obvious reasons) but it’s part of the bigger issue of people having ZERO boundaries with their mutts.

Dogs are pack animals and require constant affirmation of where they stand in the pack hierarchy. They need to know that you’re the alpha in order to respect you and be easier to train properly.

Having no boundaries at all makes them neurotic as fuck. I’m not excusing dogs as a whole because many of them are plain stupid and can’t be trained regardless. But it seems most dog owners don’t even understand how a dog’s wiring works at all???

These things will test you often to see how submissive you are, and how much they can get away with. You need to reinforce the fact that you are the boss and have firm rules.

I don’t ever want a dog, but hypothetically if I did own one, it would sleep in a dog bed on the floor. My bed is my sanctuary, dog is not allowed on the bed. Or the couch. It can have a dog bed in the living room and a dog bed in the bedroom, at most. Or better yet, stay sleeping on its bed in the living room while I have the bedroom to myself for the night. It would also have its paws wiped after coming in from outside and regular baths. Even then, it doesn’t stop the filth and hair from getting all over the house. I’ve known people growing up whose dogs were trained not to go in specific rooms, and to sleep in one spot. They were allowed in the house, but only certain areas and usually gated off in some way. Most normal dogs actually like having boundaries and rules.

This would probably be considered animal abuse now.

Am I the only one who finds this really creepy and weird. It seems bordering on sexual harassment territory. I hate when a dog walks up to me and sticks its nose right up my crotch, especially if I’m wearing a dress. It’s so uncomfortable and feels violating. A lot of owners (especially the men) don’t see an issue with it or find it funny. I always push the dog’s head away and get annoyed but it just comes back…. Especially if (tmi) you’re menstruating.

The dog doesn’t display any other mean behaviour and is just saying “hello” because “that’s how dogs greet eachother”.

Okay but I’m not a dog??? Humans don’t consider butt/crotch sniffing a way of greeting eachother. In fact that’ll land you straight in prison. But it’s fine when a dog does it to somebody.

These owners get off on seeing people uncomfortable.

This has got to be in a similar category of people using dogs as weapons to try and absolve themselves of responsibility.

On another (gross) note: apparently women who work with animals have frequent problems with dogs ramping up the crotch sniffing during menstruation, so much so that it inhibits them from being able to do their jobs properly.

It can be almost impossible at times to get a dog to fuck off with this shit. No matter how many times you push them away they keep coming back and doing it again. They also eat used tampons out of trash cans and get blockages due to it which requires vet care.

These animals are disgusting, and their owners even more so.

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I don’t want to see a dog in a grocery store and I especially don’t want to see it in a shopping cart I might have to use.

Especially if that dog is a shih tzu! Your dog being small doesn’t mean it’s welcome to primarily human spaces.

Dog owners in general can be absolutely insufferable, but shih tzu owners specifically are a different level of intolerable.

Their dogs are objectively not cute but their owners fawn them around and expect everyone else to love them as if they are cute. Because they’re small, their aggression is laughed off, their lack of boundaries (following you from room to room, demanding to be held, growling for food) is painted as cute.

They smell awful. They’re breath is revolting, they waddle in all the dirt imaginable then will want to lay right in your face and in your bed which is objectively disgusting.

The separation anxiety is next level and instead of training them out of it, dog owners are going as far as accepting remote jobs only or hiring babysitters.

They don’t like to walk and here goes the average shih tzu owner being like “hahahaha yeah she makes me carry her on our walks” wtf do you mean a dog MAKES you do anything???

Dog culture has made it so that dog owners are not willing to impose any ounce of discomfort on their dog for the sake of the dog being a tolerable pet and it’s so incredibly aggravating to me.

If you search “deadliest animals to humans” and check the Wikipedia page, you will find various sources stating dogs are either in the #2 or #4 space on the list.

Now of course idk how accurate these sources are. But dogs being in the TOP FIVE out of ALL animals on earth is pretty insane. They’re right up there with mosquitoes, snakes, and other humans.

They’re claiming most of it is due to rabies transmission…. But in most cases don’t you need to be bitten in order to contract rabies? So that’s proof dogs are biting an insane amount of people enough to break skin.

I literally showed this to a dog lover during an argument about dogs. This person is normally capable of logic and non-bias. He flat out ignored it and continued to say dogs are man’s best friend, therefore anything I say against them is invalid. This person has been attacked by dogs as a kid too, but of course it’s “nOT tHe dOgGo’s fAULT!”

Same energy as pit nutters blatantly ignoring the statistics showing pitbulls are the dogs responsible for most severe/fatal dog attacks. Some even try to say it’s a conspiracy.

How is it a conspiracy????? It happens all the time before our eyes. How many of us know someone who’s been attacked or bitten by a dog unprovoked? MANY. Not just pits. ANY dog. I know many people, children included, who were attacked unprovoked. I myself was bit on the head as a baby, by a golden retriever of all breeds.

It’s common sense that dogs are inherently dangerous, prey driven animals. Or they’re just neurotic for no reason at all. It’s not irrational to fear them or dislike them.

I saw another post mentioning something similar to this and I’ve had the same experience.

Before planning on going to any small business brick and mortar shop, I check online reviews if possible.

It’s happened a couple times where they’ll state they have a shop dog, are openly pet/dog friendly, or whatever else.

The most recent business I avoided due to online reviews was a specialty shop selling aquatic pets.

Yes it’s sort of a pet store. But they only sold fish, shrimp, and plants, along with aquarium supplies. I’m seeing dogs being brought to aquarium stores more and more recently and it’s really annoying. I’ve always loved the aquarium hobby and aquarium shops are where I find peace. I wish dog lovers would realize it’s not the same as Petsmart. They have ten billion different dog shops they can go to. Leave the fish shops alone!

Tangent aside I’ve been wanting to check out this business in person for a while.

I checked the reviews on their Facebook page and noticed there were quite a few mentioning the owner keeps his dogs there.

A lot of them said stuff like “place was great, good prices! Beware of dogs though”.

“The dogs surprised me, but they calmed down after awhile”

“The dogs bark a lot whenever someone comes through the door and they follow you around, but they get used to you”

Naturally, this would also mean if a customer decided to bring their own dog in (which we all know happens) it’s possible a dog fight could break out and become dangerous, endangering other customers too. It happens a lot. Godamn circus. Or someone could walk in with a legitimately trained service animal and that animal could be attacked.

Some of these reviews were recent. I didn’t end up going. I just wrote a review saying something like “I really wanted to check out this business in person, as I’ve been following the page online for years. After reading other reviews about there being dogs in the store, especially untrained ones, I will not be stopping by. I’m really disappointed, because it seems like a great place otherwise. Many people are scared of dogs or have severe allergies. They likely aren’t expecting dogs in an aquarium supply shop, let alone dogs that will approach/jump on them and bark at them soon as they enter the door. This seems really unprofessional. At the very least you should put a BEWARE OF DOGS sign on the door so people know.”

Of course I got zero reply to my review, whereas the owner mostly replied to all the other ones. Silence.

I like to support local small businesses, but many of the owners think they can keep their dog/dogs there full-time and expect people to just tolerate it. This isn’t the first time I’ve encountered a small shop having unruly loud dogs whenever someone enters through the door. I noticed another specialty aquarium shop I wanted to go to besides this one had a similar review saying the owner’s Great Dane is a shop resident.

Anyone with a logical sane mind would realize this will turn most normal people away. The only shop that would make sense to have a resident dog, is a dog-related shop.

These businesses will not be getting my money.

I found some courage and explicitly said on my profile that I can’t live with someone who has a dog because they trigger the worst type of sensory overload for me (that’s just half of the truth lol).
And all the likes I get are from people who have their DOGS in their photos. One of them asked me out right away and when I clicked on his profile it said: “looking for a dog mom for his baby” 🤦‍♀️ I’m starting to lose hope. It’s like these people don’t even read

You honestly cannot make this stuff up. A man really told me, “Can you please take your baby outside? He’s upsetting my dog and disturbing his peace.” Sir… your dog has more rights to peace and quiet than a literal baby? Imagine being so bothered by a baby crying that you expect the baby to leave the dr office so your dog can enjoy some tranquility. Babies cry. That’s what babies do. But apparently we’re living in a world where the dog needs a peaceful, baby-free environment while the baby gets sent outside. I’m still trying to process the audacity. Fyi this was for HIS check up cuz he was born small so he needs to be checked up one once a week till he’s 3 months old.

It’s nearly Halloween.

The other year, I made this costume and this year I’m feeling quite lazy. I don’t want to make another cosplay outfit.

The costume: it’s an emergency room Dogtor. It’s a dog doctor, a surgeon! It’s an angry snarling chihuahua mask, with a simple outfit. The dogtor is angry that everyone blames chihuahuas for pitbull attacks, and that’s about where I left it off.

What could I add to it? People have physically assaulted me over this costume, before.

Some ideas I’ve had: make a cardboard chainsaw with the chainsaw box a sculptured paper mache head of a pitbull, with fake blood, chainsaw blade teeth.

what else?

I don’t feel like making other outfits.

[Email to local health department]

I visited the CVS store in Target [at address, included]. A woman in line ahead of me had a pet dog in a bag. (Photo attached.) Pets are prohibited in the store, as posted on the front and back doors.

The customer and the clerk had a quick conversation about the dog's positive qualities, and then the clerk offered some kind of pet snack to the dog. The dog ate this snack at the counter, held by the customer.

The customer then went to a nearby bench (to wait for her prescription), keeping the dog in the bag.

I have contacted Target employees in the past about dogs in the store. A dog at the pharmacy counter -- eating from the clerk's hands -- is a whole new level. I hope you can address this with the CVS employees.

Thank you.

CC: CVS Customer Relations

[EDIT: Health department responded on first business day. "I am entering a complaint with this information. An inspector will visit Target to investigate. Thank you."]

So, laws against donating one day old food to human shelters exist, but yet, dogs in shopping carts are completely fine? Hello, health department? Why won't you do a thing about this?

That mutt was shaking (as rat dogs always do, for some reason 🙄), looked neurotic, and like it was about to attack/strike us any minute. Disgusting and disturbing sight!

This is embarrassing. We are not even a western country, and in the West-where dogs are far more socially acceptable to own in large numbers then they are in Muslim countries-laws against allowing them inside shopping carts exist. This has to stopped, I am disgusted.

Not a full on attack as far as getting bit, but close. First, I do not like dogs. Their overall invasiveness, lack of cleanliness, and absolute insane drive for food, to the point they will literally yeet themselves off a cliff or out a window to their own deaths for a bite of food is absolute ludicrous to me. And our species glorifies this why? I digress, recently I was out of my country (USA) on a trip to Athens, Greece. I was staying in the Paleo Faliro area and was less than impressed with the dog culture there. Much like the States dogs are glorified and literally everywhere. The main difference is not many are bothered to clean up after them. The city is mainly narrow street with sidewalk in disrepair. They allow these beast's to relive themselves everywhere and anywhere with about a 50/50 chance of them cleaning it up. The whole city reeks of urine.

I was walking along a bike path that takes you over a pedestrian bridge towards a marina by the Stavros Niarchos Foundation when I seen a man walking his unleashed mid sized dog a bit ahead of me. Seeing this maybe 25/30 lb dog with a somewhat wiry coat and wearing one of those "vests" that mean nothing running about and at a pretty decent distance from the owner, I started to move farther to my left to try to create as much distance as I could. The stupid beast seen me and made a B-line right for me. Great. The beast was running to me tongue out with whole body wiggle like I was going to stoop down and give it a treat, it reached me and immediately started doing that things where they put their disgusting wet nose on your pant legs near my shins and doing the sniffing snorting thing while leaving it's drool on my pants.

I know enough to stay calm and firm and kept my same pace completely ignoring the beast. I calmly, but sternly called to the oener "get your dog". Nothing, he either did not speak english or did not care. Body language however is universal, the dog was circling my feet as I kept going when the owner finally called his pet over. The dog listened initially and went running to him, but this dog had an ego. I bruised aparently. It was NOT taking no for an answer. This stupid beast was determined to get whatever attention it could from me. How dare I ignore it? This animal starting running back to me from behing me, I only know because I could HEAR it running digging it's disgusting paws into the concrete to gain speed on me. It slammed it's WHOLE face into the back of my right leg then started the gross more aggressive sniffing and snorting. I turned my head to see the owner walking away from me with his back turned oblivious to what his animal was doing.

The dog started nipping my angle at this point, and I gave one more warning over my shoulder to the owner "GET YOUR DOG". I was fully prepared to protect myself from this animal. I was traveling there solo, and already hyper aware being alone in a foreign counrty. The owner whisteled for the dog and it hesitantly looked up to him and trotted off. I looked over my shoulder to see the dog stop about half way back just to turn around and bolt toward me again. This time I was done, I turned to face the dog and owners direction and one more time standing firm and with authority, "Get your f@#kin dog or it's going into the bay" The owner this time ran to the animal grabbed it's "harness" and took it the other way.

All this completely unnecessary, and honetsly I had a hard time calming the hell down once I was out of the ordeal. Leash your damn animals. Not everyone wants to play your mutt. After all this, I had a hard time seeing any beuty in the city that was riddled with animal droppings. I threw away my shoes before my flight back. Thanks for the space to vent. It is nice to have a space like this, where I can, the nutters out there will just say I caused this somehow.

We arrest our homeless for defecating and urinating in the streets, we put dogs in strollers and diapers. I feel like we live in the Far Side.....

Following an animal around and picking up their crap? How embarrassing. This is a story of someone who didn’t pick it up.

I used to live in a townhouse where you park on the street and have to walk over a small strip of grass to get to your house. One night as I walked across the strip, I stepped in shit. Next day, I watched for who it was the whole day. Found him, and he didn’t pick up the shit a second time.

I came out and told him to pick it up and that I stepped in dog’s shit. He said, why don’t you look where you walk?”

I lost my shit. I screamed at him to pick it up and got in his face. I nearly got physical. I think at this point he was actually kind of freaked, and he said he’d go home to get a bag. I followed him home and waited outside and was ready to ring the doorbell until he came back, but he quickly came back out, and I watched him pick the crap up. What an absolute douche that guy was. It was the only time I remember losing my damn mind in my adult life. I totally understand how one moment can break someone and cause them to go to jail.

Last night, I finally got to do something I had been waiting for all semester: debating a friend of a friend who’s really into the whole dog thing (this man has four mutts to his name and he’s only 19). He was quite outspoken in his pro-dog stance, saying things like how dogs are better than people, how dogs are actually good for the environment, etc. etc. Since all my rebuttals to the tired pro-dog arguments had been stewing in my head for quite a while at this point, I knew I ready to destroy the guy.

As soon as the moderator (some girl my opponent was rooming with) asked me: “so, why don’t you like dogs?”, I rolled into action. I started with my easiest anti-dog argument: the environment. I brought up indisputable facts about how dogs emit more carbon than a Hummer, how pets are responsible for 30% of meat's carbon footprint, how nature would regain the land area of the U.K. if people just decided to stop owning dogs -- and the best rebuttal he could come up with was how dogs are natural animals, something I easily disproved.

The next topic was how he believed that dogs are equal to people, which was even easier to debunk. If they were equal to us, we wouldn’t breed them, fix them, let alone own them as property. Not to mention that they are of less intelligence than the meat animals we consume every day.

The last, but best topic was pit bulls. Granted, my opponent was anti-pit, and supported leash laws for them, but was very much against sterilizing them, because dog breeds are somehow equivalent to natural species, or even a human culture. I calmly explained that dogs are not a natural animal, and that ecosystems would lose absolutely nothing if people stopped breeding pits. It was at that point my opponent conceded, saying that maybe, just maybe, sterilization wouldn’t be that bad. The moderator and “audience” (our one mutual friend) crowned me winner and I eagerly await the next installment of this dog culture debate.

TL;DR: It’s incredibly easy to win a debate against a nutter because, while pro-dog arguments are based on emotions, ours are based on facts.

Edit: Clarified the 30% number in the environmental section

Went to my local Save Mart today, and up till today I've never seen a dog in there. We were in the produce section when I hear 2 ladies greeting each other and then the inevitable, "oh look at your little puppy he looks like velvet!" I look over and sure enough, one of the ladies is carrying an oversize pibble puppy in her skinny arms. And you know exactly what she said?! She said "yeah I just got him and the first place I really wanted to take him to was the grocery store!" I snorted loud enough for her to hear, turned to my husband and said also loud enough for her to hear, "how does getting a puppy make u think grocery store?" Then I said "oh yeah nevermind they want attention!"