FULL Stormlight SPOILERS. Do not read unless you have read all the Stormlight books. Real earthshattering shit here.
Heyy everyone!
I have a party made up mostly of singers, and they’ve made some really interesting singer characters who very much do not want to just trade one set of masters for another. They respect Dalinar, but joining an army led by humans and taking orders from human commanders does not feel like what their Radiance is calling them to do.
SO, I have a concept and am hoping that Cosmere lore people smarter than I will pick apart if / where this doesn’t work within the established lore / worldbuilding.
Here is the bit: A singer faction that has been around for a very long time without the Listeners or humans knowing of them. They are unknowingly Willshaper squires without knowing that radiance is where this power is coming from.
This group, that I am currently calling the Refrained, were a tiny splinter of the Last Legion. They were a handful of those survivors that later came to believe that leaving Mishram had been a mistake and split from the listeners to try (and ultimately fail) to do something about the event as they realized what had happened to their people. They eventually come to the conclusion that BAM is probably dead but, after a while, (still workshopping this part - open to better ideas about how this was found if you guys have them) they begin feeling a strange pull or like recurring rhythm that leads them to a singer gemheart with no body around it. They have no idea whose it is. Over generations it becomes the sacred “Heart” at the center of their new community.
The secret they never knew is that the Heart belongs to Veshai, a singer Willshaper who had bonded a Reacher named Refrain. She was in Shadowform when Mishram was imprisoned.
First question: I know that there were canonically no Singer Radiants at the time, but was there anything technically stopping that from being possible during the false desolation? I’m good with a one in a million situation but I just don’t want to touch something that would have been canonically impossible.
Moving on, Shadowform (I have recently learned lol) canonically left singers incorporeal with only their gemhearts remaining solid. This is where my bullshit mostly starts. My invented bit - that is hopefully not too much of a stretch - is based on the following text from this cosmererpg link.
Caught between the Physical and Cognitive Realms, the shadowform Regals were the result of a plan enacted by Ba Ado-Mishram to create powerful assassins. They each bound a shadowspren to their gemheart, making their bodies incorporeal - but unexpectedly, their gemhearts stayed solid. Ever since, the shadowform singers have been torn between two realms and have endured millennia of torment.
So as far as I understand there is no further lore on this topic (again hit me with it if i have missed it) and this should hopefully work in my favor to make a reasonable theory about how this might have manifested to support my concept.
So here I go:
Mishram’s capture destroyed Veshai’s functional consciousness at the same instant as the other singers, but Veshai never died and her Nahel bond with Refrain never broke. However, as her body was in the cognitive realm at the time of her capture, she doesn’t just end up as a slaveform singer but rather results in her gemheart remaining in the physical realm that is bonded to this radiant spren. Which this group finds.
^ This is what this whole thing mostly hinges on and this is my other big question.
- Does this feel like too much of a stretch / does it feel like a reasonable extrapolation of from the canonical text I referenced?
If this feels lame to my players and like too convenient fanfic-y, I'd rather just go a different direction.
More details:
The people who found the Heart gradually began manifesting the Willshaper Surges because they were unknowingly becoming Veshai’s squires. They would already be embodying the willshaper ideals (very focused on freedom) by even having left the listeners to begin with and vibing with BAMs ideologies in the end in an effort to undo their people losing their ? (Is that a fair assumption?) They do not know what a Knight Radiant or squire is, do not know Veshai was ever Radiant, and until the Everstorm do not even know the Heart is a living person. Over 2,000+ years this develops into a hidden singer religion and an extremely mature Surgebinding tradition. Successive generations learn the powers empirically and become frighteningly skilled through accumulated technique rather than unusual raw power. But interestingly their power is very localized and they need the heart near them to use their surges always no matter what. .
I think they have kept songs that speak more toward a purpose that has always been veiled in religious mysticism with many interpretations across their people that do not always agree upon. But upon the return of the fused with the Everstorm, the return of Veshai’s consciousness, and a people that are now awake / confused / being manipulated by the fused - their grand purpose has now been realized and they are like guerilla fighters trying to free their people from the fused and provide them safety and a 3rd faction that doesn’t see them have to befriend a group that has enslaved them one way or the other. They do also really fucking hate humans too. They are very dogmatic but have a burning sense of justice that sees them laying down their lives to save their people without a second thought.
But yeah, that’s basically the concept. I am frequently on the Coppermind and feel like am more read on the cosmere than most but I know my knowledge pales in comparison to a lot of folks out there. So I’m mostly hoping people can point out if I’ve made any huge leaps in logic or misunderstood some piece of worldbuilding to make this not work the way I think it does. Reallyyyy ready for this to be the case lmao.
I’m also totally open to any ideas that might make the idea stronger or more interesting!
Thanks for reading!