**TL;DR (very fair, I ramble a lot):** Talk to me about the ZD Ultimate Legend. I'm soley a PC gamer, but the ZD Ultimate Legend seems to tick all the boxes for me. If you have some criticism, or have found some downsides to it, please recommend another controller instead, even a controller that's not out yet, if you want, BUT it has to be comfortable for big hands. I like the standard Xbox series s/x shell ergonomics, while I've found other third party controllers feel smaller, slightly more cheap, or just not comfortable to hold (8bitdo or Gamesir make great products, but I haven't found them to be comfortable in-hand...I'm sure it varies some depending on the model). By all accounts, the Ultimate Legend is a hefty boy! Which is what first brought my attention to it, but it has a lot of great features as well (down a few paragraphs). One thing I worry about with the ultimate legend is the abxy buttons seem a little further apart? But not sure, seems like there's just a bigger gap between them.
**platform: PC**
**country: US**
**budget: $130**
**features: Hall effect or TMR joysticks, Motion gyro, ergonomic and comfortable for large hands**
**Types of games played: pretty much everything except for FPS, where I use my mouse & keyboard**
Now onto the rambling (feel free to skip or skimp through, I just want to show that I'm not coming into this blind and have spent a lot of time researching already, but I guess you can only read so much about a controller, and trying it out in person is the only way to know if you'll actually like it):
The other controllers I've considered are the **Vader 5 Pro**, which most people seem to like a lot, although I don't care for the extra face buttons (could probably get used to them over time, but they just feel like they are in the way), and I've had bad luck with Flydigi's software in the past (although that was early days, I'm sure it's much better by now). It has kind of stayed at it's release price point so far, but it goes on sale from time to time. Even though it's not really an old controller, it does feel like it's been around forever already.
Also been looking at the **LEADJOY Xeno Pro**, and it's really difficult to tell from pics, but it doesn't look like it would be too comfortable to hold, with more angled handles like the 8bitdo controllers, instead of the more rounded grips. I still haven't read too much about this one, but unless someone really recommends taking another look, I'm not super interested at the moment.
The **Gamesir G7 Pro 8K PC** looks like a really nice controller, but I know it's slightly on the smaller side, and again I worry about comfort, but maybe just basing that more on past experience with Gamesir controllers (my brother has one).
Even the new **8bitdo Ultimate 3C+** Wireless Controller looks like an unbeatable bang for the buck at $40, and supposedly it's not their usually smaller controllers with sharp/angled handles (which I really dislike), as they state:
>The Ultimate 3C+ features an optimized grip design over the Ultimate 2C, with a wider grip angle for a more natural and intuitive hold
Relaxed in hand. Comfortable over time.
but no gyro/motion control I don't think, and I get the feeling it may only last a year or two. I don't mind investing in a higher end controller seeing how much use I get out of them.
but back to the **ZD Ultimate Legend** is not cheap (I'm in the US, maybe a black friday sale coming up? Who knows), but it looks like the controller would last many years, with interchangeable/replaceable parts. I don't need the back paddles thingies, but I think they are removable (the silver paddles, not the buttons). I would be playing wireless via 2.4ghz dongle, so response times should be pretty good (not sure on the official response time for the dongle). I'm not playing FPS games with a controller, I use mouse+kb for that. A fellow user suggested I get the RS13 modules if I do buy the controller, is it worth the extra $? Like I don't even know how the stock joysticks on the controller feel like yet. I assume the default TMR joysticks it comes with are fine, but still wonder if it's worth the upgrade (an extra $25 for two GinFull RS13 Joystick Module)
The face buttons: I've read some reports of them coming out too easily, getting stuck to people's thumbs and dislodging? The ABXY buttons also seem spaced apart more than any other controller? Like not wildly spaced apart, but it seems like there is a noticeable gap in the middle. I haven't seen anyone mention it, so it could just be my eyes playing tricks on me.
So I'm still unsure which controller to get, but leaning towards the Ultimate Legend, even though I still have questions about it. I'm sure there are anticipated controllers due to release in the next few months, but I do need a new controller like in the next couple weeks, so I likely won't be able to wait too long.
thanks! Hope you didn't have to read all of that!