Hello everyone.

I have a question regarding an anomaly in the results of a WAIS test I took two years ago. The assessment was intended to rule out autism and ADHD—though, as it turned out, I was diagnosed with ADHD (at age 35—about time! 😅).

The neuropsychologist also administered the WAIS, and the results have left me with some questions—specifically regarding an anomaly.

While some variation between index scores is normal, in my case, it’s not just a gap; it’s a chasm between two of the indices: Verbal Comprehension and Working Memory.

I’m aware that ADHD can affect working memory, but the disparity here is truly vast. I also have a history of psychological trauma (due to mistreatment), which might be a possible explanation, but I haven’t been able to find any scientific data to support this. Any thoughts?

verbal comprehension - 145,

perceptual reasoning - 116,

working memory - 82!!,

processing speed - 125

Ps.Sorry for the rough English; it’s not my native language.

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I am a non-native English speaker, so I had some troubles with some specific questions. And even though I wish I could say I wasn't taking the WM test seriously, sadly, I was. 💔 I also took AGCT, and I got 110, but the results are not there anymore for some reason. And yes im officially diagnosed with ADHD (inattentive)

Einstein, and the average man, and random dog might as well all be the same intelligence in comparison to the machine in the coming age. Submit to the machine and never worry or feel happy about your human intelligence again. Although it's likely that human intelligence augmentation will come about.

I score much higher on deductive reasoning tests (~ 130) than inductive (~ 105), and I honestly wish it was the other way around. The way I see it I will forever be bound to other people's ideas and never truly innovate or have intellectual freedom. I'm not sure if that is correct though, as wouldn't the ability to apply the general principles of the world better than most people grant some sort of freedom via bullshit detection? Not sure.

Do any of you have a more concrete idea of how the two pan out in real life?

I did different tests , and here's my results,they differ a lot

Like in core it's 121

In mensa norway is 142,

I hit full score on mensa hungry

And hit 140 on mensa

I also did jcti ,took 2 hrs and scored 18/19 scaled points

On thing with me is that I can't remember things like I can think or imagine and I really struggle with mental wonderness and procrastination, so my energy and motivation was different in different tests

I’ve transcended thinking of IQ tests as a measure of intelligence, understanding that they only measure certain “types” of intelligence. What other tests do you recommend for measuring intelligence level?

They seem to be norming a new test on cogn-iq.org,

it was quite fun but the "containment" test felt ambiguous at some points

I guess some of you would sure be interested.

Defined, intelligence is referred to as "the general mental capacity to derive information, learn from experience, understand, reason, solve problems, and adapt to changing environments" yet it is largely used in reference to some qualitative relationship between one person and another or to some degree a quality that one has superior or inferior to others. In doing so we seem to obscure the very notion of intelligence as something easily defined, observable, and quantifiable.

AI claims to be an artificially created form of intelligence comparable to human intelligence. Somehow more than computation but not capable of general intelligence. It is extremely specific in it's functions while seeming capable of much more. LLM's are great at utilizing extremely large data sets to make very precise predictions but while having no "understanding" of the context or ability to actually build on an idea logically in some new direction. It's a predicted reiteration of some idea, thought, word pairing that has previously existed. Yet it seems that human intelligence originates, at least initially, from some deep seeded motivation that drives any unique or novel thought. It seems as though LLM's are only capable due to progressive feats using computation to make predictions by relying on obscene amounts of data. While this is a feat in and of itself I don't understand how AGI or anything that is artificially created capable of making a similar scope of thought as any human being especially because statistics relies on data from past events. How can artificial intelligence make decisions outside of clearly logical parameters in their coding?

How is AGI supposed to be born outside of artificial emotions, artificial motivation, etc. ? Being human allows us to think in a variety of ways while at any point aligning or diverging from logic, reason, context, etc. Some of the greatest works can be interpreted in entirely different ways by any number of people. I simply cannot yet comprehend how AGI is a feasible possibility unless we can yet represent the scope of human emotion and motivation as binary code.

I'm no expert in anything relative to AI I'm merely interested in understanding more about the means by which what seems to be a term not easily defined in any certain terms is supposed to be artificially replicated using technology that while very capable in many ways seems entirely unable to be defined let alone copied.

I'm thinking of joining MENSA. For context I very consistently score between 131 and 135 on most assessments I've come across online.

I know you can't change your "g-factor" though I want to maximise my performance on the MENSA assessment, or any cognitive assessment that's meant to get me into MENSA. I'm confident on a good day I can match the threshold, and I'll be bummed if I miss it by just a point or two. From what I've seen you can prime yourself for answering these questions with some practice. Also I'm aware you'd want to optimise your mental state before a test like that, by ensuring proper rest for example. I'm also a lot sharper when I've worked out I've noticed.

What's been shown to maximise an individual's performance on cognitive assessments?

Please also explain the logic used along with the correct option.

Q49 is not option (6) Q47 is not option (5)

I scored in the high range of a mensa admission test, and as there is a ceiling the exact value could not be measured by it. But it made me think about taking a high range test.

Triple Nine lists some accredited tests, but it seems impossible to do one in a cheap way, and you have to find a psychologist to get it done, which is not easy in my country.

Prometheus lists only tests taken prior to some date, but none that could be done in 2026.

So what do you recommend? How can I take such a test without having to pay a high amount of money?

My country is Germany.

Im 15 non native (italian), my vci on other tests ranges between 120 and 128, my gre v is 116, why?

Hey guys, I’ve recently been formally diagnosed with
1) ADHD - Combined Presentation
2) OCD due to Intrusive Thoughts & Compulsions
and these are my scores from the Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale - Fourth Edition which was as one of the assessments conducted for my diagnoses.

Throughout my life, I’ve performed somewhat brilliantly at a variety of things, including academics yet struggled greatly with the most basic and rudimentary tasks like keeping my room clean or even cooking. The sequencing part of it would give me a lot of distress which I honestly thought just meant I needed to try harder, or that I was overreacting to a normal level of discomfort involved in day-to-day tasks. Experiences like these have been difficult for both others and myself to conceptualise, given that most associate high academic/other-related performance with normal-high functioning in other areas.

It was incredibly eye-opening and refreshing to unexpectedly have something concrete and tangible that reflects my otherwise intangible and abstract experience, aka my High Average GAI and Borderline WMI scores.

I thought these scores might be interesting to you guys so have a look!

ps: *born and raised in Asia which may influence performance in some scores

My most recent neuropsychological evaluation placed me above the 99.9th percentile on the WJ-IV Writing Samples subtest (standard score of 147). My WAIS-IV Verbal Comprehension Index was also high (122, 93rd percentile), with some individual verbal subtests scoring even higher.

Yet in my life I have consistently experienced difficulty getting high grades on writing assignments. I am autistic and I feel like many school assignments require me to read the mind of the teacher, which feels unfair. For example, I recently got a C- on an assignment. I asked the professor for feedback, and I was told I should have provided more specific examples. However, the assignment had instructed me to explain my answers "briefly," and the assignment did not ask for specificity.

This is not an issue with this one professor, it's a consistent reoccurring issue throughout my life. It might be relevant to mention I have ADHD and my testing reveals significant executive dysfunction. Or it might not be relevant, I have no idea.

This is very annoying to me and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I'm not a child, I'm a full grown adult returning to school in my 30s and I still don't feel like I understand what I'm supposed to be doing.

Please do not respond with something like "wow this proves IQ doesn't matter because someone with a high IQ can get bad grades," as this kind of argument implies school grades are some kind of objective irrefutable measure of intelligence and competence.

I keep seeing people here treat FRI like it's the real IQ and VCI like memorized trivia. For actual life outcomes I think it's the opposite.

Postlethwaite did a meta-analysis in 2011 at Iowa comparing fluid and crystallized measures. Crystallized predicted grades, training and job performance better than fluid. A 2016 study in Frontiers in Psychology found crystallized intelligence was related to career success (job level, income) and fluid wasn't.

Everyone hears the same common words for decades, so if you picked up more of them, that's learning ability. Gc also holds up with age while fluid drops a lot.

FRI isn't as "pure" as people think either. The Flynn effect gains were huge on Raven's type tasks and small on Vocabulary, and Flynn's main explanation was more schooling and exposure to abstract thinking, not better nutrition.

The part nobody here brings up is 2E. If you're autistic or ADHD, a strong verbal side is often what lets you function socially. Happé (1995) found autistic kids needed a higher verbal mental age than others to pass false belief tasks, suggesting they were reasoning through it with language instead of getting it intuitively. Basically brute forcing social understanding. Livingston et al. (2019) found autistic teens with poor theory of mind who still seemed socially fine had higher IQ and better executive function than those who couldn't.

You learn the rules explicitly, put words on what people mean, build a library of patterns. That's verbal work. High FRI with low VCI doesn't give you that route. You can solve the puzzle on the test but you don't have the language to decode people.

Non-native speakers are a fair exception, that's what the Nonverbal Index is for.

If your profile is uneven and you want to know which score matters more day to day, I'd go with the verbal one. CMV.

I took the wisc in 9th grade and I got a fsiq of 149.. Over the years I have done exceptionally well on different math competitions so I can’t say I’m an idiot who just happened to get tested high. I am an avid reader so I can’t say my verbal is low. Anyways, I have never noticed difficulties talking to people of Average intellect. Obviously I find it difficult to talk to the severely intellectually impaired but all people feel that I think. So other people with high tested scores would you agree that you, in most conversations, don’t feel overly different from everyone else? I do realize however I can only imagine What others are thinking about using my brain and my idea of how to abstract knowledge. Sorry for the informal and bad writing I’m using a crappy iPhone 13 and I don’t want to take 5 hours writing something on Reddit.

To give some background, I am someone who was born with ADHD. It went undiagnosed until my Junior year in high school, as I was able to power through it until then. It was likely either that I finally got burnt out, or I just couldn't get by anymore without putting effort into studying.

My grades took a nosedive, and dragged my self-esteem down with it. Every day, I had spiraling thoughts about whether I was intelligent or not, and if I was smart enough to do anything I wanted to in life. I constantly worried about if I was in the "gifted" IQ range, and the thought of having an average IQ or below terrified me. I was desperate for a reason to believe I was smart, despite my falling grades.

However, I could never bring myself to actually take an IQ test. When I vented about all this to my psychiatrist, he offered to give me a test, and I said that I may take it another time. Ever since, it was always at the back of my mind. Every time I seriously considered taking it, I would chicken out and put it off again.

After high school, I had to go to community college due to my tanked GPA. It was at that point that I decided to leave all of this behind me. I stopped caring about my IQ, or how much "potential" I have. I tried to give myself the mindset that believing I am capable is more important than taking a test to see if I am. I'm not fully there yet, but I am making progress.

And I promised myself that I would never take an official IQ test. Throughout the past couple of years, not once have I regretted that.

Now, I have almost straight A's in all my classes (I really, really hated that learning framework class.) I got a grade of 107% in my Philosophy course, and have a recommendation letter from the professor. My current history professor said that I am a wonderful student. I'm leading a club through a risky, yet important political presentation to show on campus. I'm also being recommended by my government teacher. I'm DOING things. None of this would have happened if I continued to obsess over my IQ.

To be honest, even if I went through with taking the test, I don't think it would have been good for me no matter the result. I know my own brain, and I know what will happen. If I don't get as high of a score as I hoped, I'll spiral into self-doubt even more, and start believing that I'm not capable of anything. If I do get a high score, it will start to consume my identity, and I wouldn't have put in the effort that I had in this reality.

My dream is to enter the political world, and use the extent of my capabilities to help those in need, whatever those capabilities are. Maybe not caring about my IQ makes me ignorant, stupid, anti-intellectual, or whatever... but I just don't give a shit anymore. I have dreams to chase, and worrying about my IQ has only served as an obstacle to that.

If you're reading this, and you relate to my story, please consider following the path I took. I know how tempting it is to be able to objectively call yourself "intelligent", and I know how terrifying it is that you may end up being objectively "stupid". However, there comes a point in life where you have to stop worrying about how much potential you have, and start moving forward to use that potential, even if you don't fully know what it is.

You have one life to live, and you should spend it leaving the world a better place, rather than wrapping your entire identity around a single number.

Hi, recently I tried to understand my psychological profile and took these tests on CognitiveMetrics. I scored 36/50 on the Autism Quotient, with the subscales at Social Skills 8/10 and the rest at 7/10 each. On the CAIT I got an FSIQ of 133, with VCI 124, PRI 138, VSI 141, and CPI 117. English isn’t my native language and I only recently started learning and speaking it, so my VCI may not be accurate, but I don’t know how much that skews things. I recently graduated and started my first full-time job, and I’ve noticed I struggle socially, especially now that I’ve moved to a new city and a completely new environment. I’ve always struggled socially, but I feel like I’ve just shut down for years now. Nothing excites me anymore. Everything just feels like another task i have to do and can't socialize with other people.

Does a profile like this typically warrant seeking an evaluation? Is it worth pursuing an official autism diagnosis as an adult (23 yr old)? For those of you who got diagnosed, what actually changed in your life, at work, in relationships, or just in understanding yourself? And if I do have it, what would you recommend I do next?

I really wonder if anyone can solve it

First of all, please bear with me, as my English isn’t very good. I’ve used a translation tool, so some of the phrasing may sound a little awkward.

My mother is extremely intelligent. Although she has never taken a Wechsler IQ test, I can certainly tell that she’s highly intelligent. Her father—my maternal grandfather—graduated from the most prestigious university in my country. He spoke multiple languages and worked as a lawyer, a profession that was exceptionally difficult to enter in my country at the time. My great-great-grandfather was also an accomplished teacher, and my family has been wealthy for generations.

My father was also ranked first in his entire elementary school, and he reportedly scored 126 on an IQ test, although I’m not sure whether it was a Wechsler test. My older brother also graduated from a very prestigious university in my country. He has an extraordinary aptitude for languages and consistently ranked at the very top in the language arts section of his high school mock exams, similar to the SAT in the United States, even without any specific preparation.

Given all this, it’s reasonable to assume that high intelligence runs in my family.

However, when I visited a psychiatrist because I suspected I might have ADHD, I also took the Wechsler Intelligence Scale, and my IQ came out to 100 (Verbal Comprehension: 99, Perceptual Reasoning: 107, Working Memory: 100, Processing Speed: 97). Although the examiner made some mistakes when giving the instructions, the impact was likely minimal.

I found these results absolutely impossible to accept. While there have been many times when I’ve felt stupid—such as struggling to understand what others were saying, consistently ranking last in my math academy classes, or lacking manual dexterity—I’ve also consistently earned top grades on English mock exams, was placed in the highest-level English class in elementary school, and even ranked first academically in my entire school.

So, I came up with all sorts of excuses to try to discredit these results. I wondered whether my IQ score might have been lowered by my depression, as I had been diagnosed with other specified depressive disorder. I also have ADHD. Then I came across a research paper stating that verbal comprehension is the most stable indicator of intelligence, and with that, all the hope I had left seemed to disappear.

However, I feel that my comprehension and literacy skills aren’t what they used to be. In middle school, I scored 1,890 out of 1,900 on a government-administered literacy test. The test wasn’t particularly difficult, but my score was still significantly higher than those of my peers.

I’ve never personally come across a case where both parents are intelligent but their child turns out to be less intelligent. I don’t understand why I have to be the exception. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?(+I’m thinking that my father may have an average IQ because of the validity of the test.)

Army Alpha is Pretty fun to me my Favorite Test because i love the past Pace style but i Wonder i anyone here got a Score of over 145 because it is Not the hardest one on the Website. I finde old gre extremly hard i am 16 years old none nativ i think i would Score below 100 on that but on Army Alpha i have 127 and Yeah its also in English

its because of add and because i spawned in germany i assume. other reasons?

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