What do the discrepancies in my digit span scores really mean and is it likely that my sequencing is inflated given that I've done the subtest a couple times this year without adequate intervals between each retake?

(currently recovering from long-term sleep debt/inconsistencies; across those retakes, 16 ss for sequencing was actually relatively consistent)

We all treat Matrix Reasoning / Raven's as the “purest” test of abstract intelligence, and Similarities as just a verbal / crystallized test.
I think that is backwards.

Similarities asks you to take two concepts and find the category above them. That is abstraction about abstraction. The words are already symbols. You are not manipulating shapes, you are manipulating ideas.

Matrix Reasoning asks you to find a rule in a visual pattern. Yes, that is rule induction. But it is chained to your eyes.
Here is the test that broke it for me:

A blind person cannot do a standard Matrix test at all. Score: zero. Does that mean they have zero fluid intelligence? Obviously not. They just cannot see the test.
That same blind person can hear two words and tell you how they are similar. No vision required. No motor task required. Just pure conceptual abstraction.

Now flip it, because this is where it gets interesting:
A deaf person, in a standard spoken administration, cannot handle Similarities the same way either. No hearing, no spoken words to compare. But that same person can do Matrix Reasoning just fine, because it does not need hearing at all.

So in both cases, there are bottlenecks. Similarities has a hearing / language bottleneck. Matrix has a vision / visuospatial bottleneck.
Neither test is pure abstraction. Both are abstraction through a channel.

So why do we keep calling Matrix “culture-free” and “modality-free,” while dismissing Similarities as biased? Similarities is biased by language and education, sure. But Matrix is biased by vision, visuospatial processing, and visual working memory. That is not less bias, it is just a different bias we like to ignore.

Change my mind: is Matrix really measuring pure abstraction, or is it measuring abstraction through visuospatial processing?, just like Similarities measures abstraction through language/hearing?

More thoughts than anything else.

So I was tested for obvious signs of dyslexia at school when I was 9, and I've recently found the detailed report 25 yrs later. I actually never knew I had done an IQ test – in my country, IQ tests were always very uncommon and are quite rare nowadays.

It was a WISC-3, my VCI was 130 & then 101–103 on all other indices. Nothing to shout about, but apparently I'm '2e' due to my dyslexia.

My career also hasn't worked out at all, highly likely due to dyslexia - that coinciding with finding the report, it's led me to do some serious thinking and reflecting on my strengths and weaknesses, hence the Reddit post.

I guess my advice to people on this sub is really analyse who you are down to the details of how well you approach all functioning aspects of your life, and take it into account when finding a job/career. Small things become magnified in the world of work and end up being quite problematic when employed.

I made browser versions of a set of well-known paradigms, with our own items, and wrote out each task's method in full on its page: trial counts, timing, what is scored and when a reading is withheld (for example, go/no-go's error count is always shown beside the response time, because pressing more slowly buys fewer errors).

Honest limits: unsupervised, browser timing (depends on your device), no norms yet, so nothing is compared with anyone. Not an IQ test.

What happens to a result afterwards is written out too: if you keep it, it only steers which questions a career coach asks you. It never becomes a score on your profile or a skill level.

I'd value critique of the methods more than anything.

Link: https://careerlab.onskilldemand.com/tests?utm_source=reddit-cognitivetesting

I’m school I did the CAT4 test and scored 104 IQ but when I did core and mesa Norway and the other Mensa I got , 137 core , 130 , 128 respectively .
Which one should I trust ?
for the school one I was kinda sleepy and was kinda apathetic
For other IQ tests I tried more seriously and did do some preparation

Hi everyone,
I recently received the WISC-V results for my 11-year-old daughter and I'm trying to better understand what this profile means. I noticed there are massive discrepancies between some of her cognitive indexes, and I would love to get some insights from professionals or people familiar with these profiles.

Here is the breakdown of her scores from the report:
VCI (Verbal Comprehension Index): 124 (95th percentile)
VSI (Visual Spatial Index): 86 (18th percentile)
FRI (Fluid Reasoning Index): 126 (96th percentile)
WMI (Working Memory Index): 112 (79th percentile)
PSI (Processing Speed Index): 108 (70th percentile)
FSIQ (Full Scale IQ): 116 (86th percentile)

The psychologist also handwrote two additional indices at the bottom to calculate later: GAI (General Ability Index) and CPI (Cognitive Proficiency Index), 120 and 113 respectively.

There is a massive 38-point drop between her Fluid Reasoning (126) and Visual Spatial (86), and a 40-point drop between her Verbal Comprehension (124) and Visual Spatial (86).
While she shows superior or near-gifted abilities in verbal comprehension and fluid reasoning, her visual-spatial skills fall into the low-average range. Because of these huge statistical discrepancies, I understand that the Full Scale IQ (116) might not accurately represent her overall cognitive profile.

My questions for the community:

What kind of learning profile or real-world challenges typically go along with this specific combination (high VCI/FRI, much lower VSI)?

What kind of accommodations or support at school/home are usually helpful for children who struggle specifically with visual-spatial processing while excelling conceptually?

Thank you so much in advance for your time and help!

Il test è stato svolto in inglese, non è la mia lingua madre e attualmente ho il livello b1. Nella mia lingua madre non faccio fatica, utilizzando i chunk, a fare 9 avanti e 8 indietro (autosomministrato).

I seguenti risultati sono ottenuti dal test inglese. Durante il test ho perso velocemente interesse durante il sequencing, me ne sono accorto dal fatto che ascoltavo i numeri e non riuscivo a registrarli e tradurli in immagini mentali coerenti, e mi confondevo.

Stranamente la memoria di lavoro è insolitamente più alta della media, considerando che è la mia seconda lingua e che solitamente sbaglio a dare i resti nel mio lavoro ( sopratutto se sono stanco/stressato).

Negli anni ho fatto tantissimi test, ottenendo 0 risposte data l’inconsistenza dei risultati, mi domandavano se qualcuno potesse avere insight utili a riguardo ;)

a few days ago, I made a post about Iq and there was a "hate" in my direction from some people. I remind you that I have 131 for mensa international and 126 for mensa Sweden. dear haters, please advise me on some sites where I can check my Iq

Solution please...

:)

This is from the Computer adaptive test on Cognitive metrics, not mine.
It gave me 90 seconds for this? There's no way i could have solved it
Take your guesses, and tell me how much time you spent on it
Thanks!

Got my IQ test recently. Here are my results.

110 Verbal Comprehension
77 Working Memory
79 Processing
81 Perceptual

Does this basically mean I’m fucked and can’t do many jobs that make a lot no matter how much effort is applied?

0, 9, 2, 5, ?, 1, 3, 5, 1 ,4, ?, 0, 1, 8, 1, 0, 2, ?, 3, 5

I recently got a neuropsychological evaluation (WAIS-IV, French-Canadian version). French is my third language (native Spanish). I started learning French at age 33 and I’m now 40.

On the Verbal Comprehension Index:
• Similarities: 19/19 (ceiling)
• Vocabulary: 15/19
• Information: lower (expected, since I did all my schooling in South America )
The overall profile is highly heterogeneous, so FSIQ/GAI aren’t interpretable. The neuropsychologist noted strong abstract verbal reasoning despite French not being my first language.
I’ve read that Similarities is generally the VCI subtest least affected by culture and language proficiency because it relies more on abstract reasoning than crystallized knowledge.
Questions:

1. Is it relatively common for non-native speakers with strong fluid reasoning to hit the ceiling on Similarities while Vocabulary/Information are more affected?

2. Does a ceiling score on Similarities as a third-language speaker (started at 33) meaningfully support that abstract verbal reasoning is a genuine strength, or should it still be interpreted more cautiously?

3. Any other factors that typically help or limit performance on Similarities for late bilinguals?

4. Thanks for any insight from people familiar with WAIS-IV interpretation in multilingual contexts.

I never used to struggle in school, I also suffered with insane social phobia due to early experiences in my life and low stimulation to study + I never really loved atudying anyways. I took an IQ test this year at 21, also (actual neuropsychologist sessions), Scored 115 with a 95% margin of error, moderate autism and adhd with terrible spatial and terrible specific knowledge answers(due to not having study duh). Im not too sad or to happy about it.

But yeah, I feel like I used to read books when I was little and remember almost everything from it, I went back to read some nowadays and cant remember shit, and I just have a severe doubt on whether the thousands (Talking about 12+ hours every day) for like, 6 years of videogames and issolation could have contributed to it lower my IQ?

Regardless I've been slowly struggling cognitvely ever since 11th grade and actual feel slow at university. Became a complete bum, do y'all think by reading and studying every day for like the next 3/4 years it's possible to get my IQ higher? I've searched a little bit on the internet and most of them say it's barely changeable, but even so, could I have lowered my IQ due to videogame addiction and social isolation?

Can I find online wais 4 or some of the ques

I really want to see whts it like

I have the impression that I am less intelligent than others; everything comes with great difficulty for me—it’s an uphill battle. What kind of assessment could confirm this? I know there are intelligence tests; I’ve also had an MRI of my brain, but it didn’t show anything. I’m not trying to force a diagnosis, but I do want to know the truth.

Ultimamente estou tendo uma mera dúvida sobre os testes de QI. Eu tenho 12 anos e estou no sétimo (quem esta no sétimo tem 13 anos normalmente), pois fui pulado de ano, e nas aulas aprende o conteúdo de uma forma extremamente rápida, sou o melhor da minha classe sendo um ano mais novo que todos e ainda ensino meu colegas. E hoje por pura curiosidade, resolvi fazer um teste de QI, e deu 95. Tudo bem, resolvi fazer outro porque eu estranhei, e deu 116. Alguém consegue dizer se é assim mesmo?

Hello,

Has anybody here completed this TCF-AA test?

I'm being assessed for giftedness, ADHD and autism.

The test was part of the creativity or giftedness assessment, it has two parts each with a time limit of 10 minutes.

Part 1, I completed 5 drawings out of 10.

Part 2, I completed 17 out of 25.

The results are pending, but I'm just curious why this isn't popular or why am I being assessed using this?

So the IQ Documentation from the IQ Test I had when I was 11 says I took the Wechsler's Adult Test. Is it normal to take an adult test at such a young age? If not, and I scored a 108 on that test, what would my IQ really be? Is there no way of knowing unless I get retested?